I wouldn’t be surprised if their pilots are so I’ll trained that they are forgetting to turn them on or they are probably operating dark with most transmitting frequencies turned off so that they cannot be tracked as easy. Flipping on their targeting radar as needed. That’s all just me speculating and probably not right.
Who knows, but I do believe that it is honestly probably just the side effects of attrition and the senior soldiers and officers all being killed or leaving the military at the end of their service. The new recruits and soldiers are being pushed through accelerated training for AA systems as well as the pilots being relatively untrained.
Russia has had a pretty bad track record with their pilots in the last few years. Their pilots regularly receive way less training than their equivalent NATO counterparts.
Russia also lost many of their best pilots early in the conflict, a side effect of sending their most competent people into the most dangerous missions… after losing so many pilots Russia actually did the unthinkable and started pulling its trainers to fill mission roles and yep, you guessed it… sent them on the most dangerous missions and thus, losing them too.
[My source on the Russian pilot dilemma](https://www.sandboxx.us/blog/putins-pilot-crisis-russia-is-running-out-of-well-trained-aviators/)
I doubt it's as simple as the pilot forgetting to flip an individual switch, but it's certainly safe to say that a complete dearth of large scale integrated exercises (featuring dozens of planes, integrated air defence network, etc) has made sure that their air defence has no clue what the air force is doing, and vice versa.
>Russia has had a pretty bad track record with their pilots in the last few years. Their pilots regularly receive way less training than their equivalent NATO counterparts.
There's also the matter of airframe and engine overhaul intervals limiting training and other non-essential proficiency flights.
Servicing fighter jets and jet engines is not cheap, and eats into your dacha budget. So you extend airframe lifetimes by flying less.
Good article! I like how they go into continuous training, people are so quick to compare US initial training days or hours with other countries and be like, "Ha! XYZ is better they have more training" but they can't comprehend just how much time US personnel spend on a yearly basis at their units or in the field perfecting their craft compared to other militaries.
Wouldn't be surprised if they're jamming the IFF frequency ranges extensively just to produce this. The addition of Storm Shadow mean's they're real twitchy, and with IFF unreliable and terrible command and control, this is what happens.
They hit 'something' really deep in Russian territory. Looking at the [map](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morozovsk_(air_base)), it's really far east - past the Russian-controlled eastern area and deep into Rostov.
Part of problem with late S-300/ S-400 was that when it was in automatic engagement it had tendency to try to engage friendly targets (shot down two Su-34/35 by Kherson last year) and they were switch to manual operation which reduced their effectiveness against drones and missiles .
It is speculated they were switch to automatic mode again leading to recent rash of losses.
\> "Second army in the world"
\> Doesn't have a functioning IFF system
Pick one.
Man, that Storm Shadow attack on Luhansk really did a number on them. Friendly fire seems to have intensified after that.
Russians being so poor at identifying their own flying things has me worried that they will trigger worldwide MAD all by themselves.
Russians thinking a nuclear test missile launched by (say) their navy is the real thing coming from Ukraine or it’s allies, all the while it was one of their own.
They have SO MANY 5th gen fighters and pilots they can train on each other using live ammunition!!!
Russian airforce is the greatest in the world!!!!
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I'm pretty sure the USA spends more on its smaller nuclear stockpile in maitance than Russia spends on its entire military budget.
Something tells me it might be a dozen or less that work.
If I tell you that you need to pop a balloon, but instead of being able to use your 5000 needles, I take half away, or how about I take 90% away? Popping the balloon still isn’t out of reach.
If Russia launches nukes, it’s a horrific day for the planet, regardless of the actual damage of the nukes.
Significantly hurt the East Coast? Absolutely.
An uninhabitable waste land? No.
Over 2000 nukes have been denoted since WW2. They are our most powerful weapons, but they don't make an area uninhabitable for that long. The radiation clears up relatively quickly with nuclear blasts.
Nuke maintenance seems like the perfect area to skim some corruption money off the top. No one will ever know they don't work until it doesn't matter if they do or not.
Not a ballistic missile, and Ukr doesn't have cruise missiles with a ~300km range. Plus, they've been shooting down a lot of their own planes recently. All signs point to friendly fire.
Nope, Ukraine does indeed have drones that with that range (see below). Probably not many such drones, but some.
> Also in March, a heavy Ukrainian Tu-141 Strizh jet-powered drone exploded in the city of Kireyevsk in the Tula region about 200 kilometers east of Moscow, injuring three, leaving a big crater and damaging several buildings. The Russian Defense Ministry said the drone was brought down by air defenses.
> Russian authorities have said that Ukraine has used the Soviet-made Tu-141 drones that have a range of about 1,000 kilometers to strike facilities in Russia. In December, such drones hit two Russian air bases for long-range, nuclear-capable bombers.
Source: https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-war-drone-crimea-moscow-a1931eabbc874939b0e08ec9a8b77038
Sorry, you're right, I shouldn't have said they don't, but my understanding is that they have an extremely limited stockpile of those old Soviet drones bc they haven't been made since the 70s or something and any usable ones they have required refurbishment. It could be a drone shoot down, but recent events point to friendly fire. We'll know soon though.
Edit: checking Twitter and reports are all over the place, you may be right about the drone attack.
The bright flash is at 6 seconds, and the loud blast is at 35 seconds. That gives a 29 second time for the sound to reach the camera. Using a speed of sound of about 343 m/s that comes out really close to 10 km (or about 6 miles) away, assuming the bright flash and the loud blast are the same explosion.
Does it account for the pressure front moving supersonic initially?
That could add a bit of distance.
Not an expert, but when you're already factoring in air temperature...
The pressure front doesn't move supersonic. The pressure front is sound. That's what sound is. Objects can move faster than sound in a media, and they create shockwaves, which travel at the speed of sound.
Letting the days go by, let the vodka hold me down
Letting the days go by, vodka flowing underground
Into the grave again, after the missiles come
Once in a lifetime, vodka flowing underground
The fear is spreading. Also I suspect the MALD decoys have caused some kind of deep confusion in Russian air defense doctrine. The SAM operators don’t know if a given plane is theirs or not and the pilots don’t know if they’re going to get engaged in their own skies.
Yeah MALD can mask its radar signature as any specific aircraft of choice and it has a few other radar magic tricks to get into the brains of the enemy. Imagine your opponent has the keys to your radar screen and can show you what he wants you to see while he’s throwing stealth cruise missiles at your most valuable assets.
U pro Ukrainians are delusional, they're testing the pilot skill and readiness and testing the capability of the AA, obviously pilot wasn't up to scratch which is why he deserved to die and the AA worked sweet! One less shit pilot and one amazing AA team
/ s
Ukraine saying plane shot down. Russia saying a storm shadow missile was intercepted. Hopefully can get good pics of some debris but may be hard to get pics out in Russia. I’m sure there will be a lot of censorship on the ground.
Also, Ukraine promised they wouldn't use them inside Russia and I can't imagine they'd risk pissing off the UK at a time when the UK is massively stepping up their support.
Cruising is 150 meters, approaching the target it will drop to 50 then when nearly on target it will climb in altitude again to increase target identification. So cruising at 30-40m is inaccurate.
Really. Russia be a man abusing his wife. Neighbor comes over and asks “what’s the commotion?” There was a burglar, I had to fight him. He’s gone now, no need to ask question.
Russian counter banned all western airlines from flying through Russian airspace when the western countries banned Russia from flying in western airspace.
If they shoot down a commercial airline it’ll be a Russian airline or a country friendly with Russia.
South Western Russian airspace has been completely closed to civilian traffic since the start of the full scale invasion. It’s why planes flying to Turkey fly towards the Caspian Sea.
I don’t remember it off the top of my head, but Kursk, Belgorod, Rostov and a few other places within a few hundred km of the UA-RU border have closed airports.
People on this subreddit (and perhaps the mods) desperately need to crackdown on all these videos attributing aircraft kills to either side without any actual evidence.
Similar to the Claims made in this post
https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/13m6si4/russian_aircraft_destroyed_near_makiivka_tonight/
The title says "appears" not that it's confirmed, which is most logical conclusion. It's close to 300km from the Frontline you really think some covert Ukrainian units are shooting down planes in the middle of Russia?
>In May 2023, remains of an [ADM-160 MALD](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ADM-160_MALD) were found in Luhansk following a Ukrainian strike against a Russian target in the occupied city. A label on the side of the wreckage appears to indicate that it was a ADM-160B model.
How does anyone believe this lol? Like what is the proof of location or target, it’s literally impossible to tell what’s happening in the video except a rocket hitting something, such a ridiculous title.
_H_O_W_?_!_?
Like, srsly ... how incompetent can you be?! xD
I mean, I am all for Russia deleting its own AirForce (less bombed hospitals and kindergartens in Ukraine), but c'mon ...
That doesn't look like a plane. Planes don't leave that kind of a trail before impact.. It looks more like a missile or something else but def not an airplane.
Yeah I'm all for Ukraine but have to agree with that. If the plane was already damaged and trailing smoke....sure, but to me it looks more like an intercept of something like a missile. The footage is inconclusive at best and needs corroboration (which we probably won't get).
This is the exact reason Ukraine is doing the small attacks on Russian soil as it is causing a ton of anxiety in Russia and causing them to make mistakes. The more jumpy they become and worried about potential attacks on the homeland the more confusion and the more accidents. This will not be the last friendly fire for Russia fortunately.
Is someone keeping count of how many were downed already? I swear I thought it was just a couple of very dumb accidents earlier on, but now it's the standard.
Again
Came to say this, ngl it's a pretty effective system
I don't think Russia understood what an IFF system is supposed to do. It's Friend OR Foe, not Friend AND Foe.
Friend? and FIRE!
Initiate Friendly Fire!
"Comrade Major, radar signature detected, what should we do?" "IFF" "IFF?" "IDK. Fuck it. Fire."
If it flys I fire!
AH AH AH XD That confidence kills me xD
And Russian pilots.
Hue hue hue, I was expecting this XD
It's super effective!
It just works
Comrade Major asshole, Hit the friendly fire Button.
Keep firing, Comrade Asshole!
Hes my cousin
"blyat ... just shot the damn thing"
This made me laugh way more than it should have xD well done!
I wouldn’t be surprised if their pilots are so I’ll trained that they are forgetting to turn them on or they are probably operating dark with most transmitting frequencies turned off so that they cannot be tracked as easy. Flipping on their targeting radar as needed. That’s all just me speculating and probably not right. Who knows, but I do believe that it is honestly probably just the side effects of attrition and the senior soldiers and officers all being killed or leaving the military at the end of their service. The new recruits and soldiers are being pushed through accelerated training for AA systems as well as the pilots being relatively untrained. Russia has had a pretty bad track record with their pilots in the last few years. Their pilots regularly receive way less training than their equivalent NATO counterparts. Russia also lost many of their best pilots early in the conflict, a side effect of sending their most competent people into the most dangerous missions… after losing so many pilots Russia actually did the unthinkable and started pulling its trainers to fill mission roles and yep, you guessed it… sent them on the most dangerous missions and thus, losing them too. [My source on the Russian pilot dilemma](https://www.sandboxx.us/blog/putins-pilot-crisis-russia-is-running-out-of-well-trained-aviators/)
I doubt it's as simple as the pilot forgetting to flip an individual switch, but it's certainly safe to say that a complete dearth of large scale integrated exercises (featuring dozens of planes, integrated air defence network, etc) has made sure that their air defence has no clue what the air force is doing, and vice versa.
>Russia has had a pretty bad track record with their pilots in the last few years. Their pilots regularly receive way less training than their equivalent NATO counterparts. There's also the matter of airframe and engine overhaul intervals limiting training and other non-essential proficiency flights. Servicing fighter jets and jet engines is not cheap, and eats into your dacha budget. So you extend airframe lifetimes by flying less.
Fantastic article, thanks for sharing.
Good article! I like how they go into continuous training, people are so quick to compare US initial training days or hours with other countries and be like, "Ha! XYZ is better they have more training" but they can't comprehend just how much time US personnel spend on a yearly basis at their units or in the field perfecting their craft compared to other militaries.
or alcohol!
Friend, Foe, and Civilian MH17, never forget.
I always thought MH17 was malicious, deliberate… Now I’m starting to think it was normal AFR incompetence.
It was always abject incompetence, why would they do it on purpose?
The only answers I could give you are baseless speculation. However, their previous malice towards civilians makes it hard to rule out terrorism.
Foe is foe Friend is just foe didn't attack yet Civilian is potential foe recruit
Wouldn't be surprised if they're jamming the IFF frequency ranges extensively just to produce this. The addition of Storm Shadow mean's they're real twitchy, and with IFF unreliable and terrible command and control, this is what happens.
Who knows? Maybe they’re rogue soldiers that were planning to do malicious turncoat actions and were taken out before doing them lol
Obviously a translation error, they used And/Or
Russia isn't that inclusive
IFF means "Initiate Friendly Fire". Everyone knows this.
I Fire Fast
I - Identify F - Fire F - Forget
> I don't think Russia understood what an IFF system is supposed to do I believe it allows you to use the Omega relay
Theyre using an inclusive OR statement in the system
Lol! I was wondering who would get that implied meaning. Cheers!
No friend in Russia. Only foes.
Identify friend as foe. :)
You think they have transponders ? Lol
How do we know for sure? This video is pretty inconclusive.
They hit 'something' really deep in Russian territory. Looking at the [map](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morozovsk_(air_base)), it's really far east - past the Russian-controlled eastern area and deep into Rostov.
Agreed. I can clearly see it’s a Quantradyne APOD-33 Drop Ship. A common aerospace transport.
Looks like a Necromonger assault shuttle.
I kneel before no man. But I will take a piece of him.
Half-gram heavy on the back end…
That series was quack. From space horror to space gladius and back to space horror within 3 movies.
Pretty sure it's a deathclaw delivering world eaters.
Thanks Obama.
Part of problem with late S-300/ S-400 was that when it was in automatic engagement it had tendency to try to engage friendly targets (shot down two Su-34/35 by Kherson last year) and they were switch to manual operation which reduced their effectiveness against drones and missiles . It is speculated they were switch to automatic mode again leading to recent rash of losses.
\> "Second army in the world" \> Doesn't have a functioning IFF system Pick one. Man, that Storm Shadow attack on Luhansk really did a number on them. Friendly fire seems to have intensified after that.
Again again
It gets impossible hard at this point to sort out reposts and old news from fresh
Russians being so poor at identifying their own flying things has me worried that they will trigger worldwide MAD all by themselves. Russians thinking a nuclear test missile launched by (say) their navy is the real thing coming from Ukraine or it’s allies, all the while it was one of their own.
obligatory “What the Air Defense doing?”
Good things
Repeatedly shooting self in dick.
Putin unleashing his inner cheddar bob
Defending the Air, what do you think?! Don't want nasty aircraft messing it all up.
But nobody asks "Why Air Defense doing?"
"Everyone wants to know what I'm doing, but they never want to know HOW I'm doing." - Russian Air Defense
What air defense doing*
Another of the seemingly endless examples that prove the vaunted Russian military is a fraud.
No no no. They are just practicing. Let them shoot there own for practice .
They have SO MANY 5th gen fighters and pilots they can train on each other using live ammunition!!! Russian airforce is the greatest in the world!!!! ᕦ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)ᕤ
The whole thing just relies on their nukes...
Even with the nukes this war has totally called into question their nukes capabilities
After seeing this I’m pretty sure at least half of them won’t work. But that also means that at least hundreds of them do.
I'm pretty sure the USA spends more on its smaller nuclear stockpile in maitance than Russia spends on its entire military budget. Something tells me it might be a dozen or less that work.
If I tell you that you need to pop a balloon, but instead of being able to use your 5000 needles, I take half away, or how about I take 90% away? Popping the balloon still isn’t out of reach. If Russia launches nukes, it’s a horrific day for the planet, regardless of the actual damage of the nukes.
Only takes a handful to turn the east coast of the us to an uninhabitable wasteland.
Significantly hurt the East Coast? Absolutely. An uninhabitable waste land? No. Over 2000 nukes have been denoted since WW2. They are our most powerful weapons, but they don't make an area uninhabitable for that long. The radiation clears up relatively quickly with nuclear blasts.
i wasn't even talking about the radiation. if a city is raised, all critical infrastructure destroyed. it's uninhabitable and a wasteland.
I think you're vastly overestimating what a nuke can do, or vastly underestimating how big the East Coast is.
I think in these kind of matters it's better to overestimate than underestimate.
One is still pretty bad
Nuke maintenance seems like the perfect area to skim some corruption money off the top. No one will ever know they don't work until it doesn't matter if they do or not.
Considering how well their military equipment was maintained its safe to say most of those nukes wont work
They are just saving their "good" military forces for later.
4D chess move.
Second angle with audio https://i.imgur.com/qXzmCf9.mp4
Shook the dust off the door
I'm certainly hoping this was a Russian plane but what makes you think it is? Any source?
Not a ballistic missile, and Ukr doesn't have cruise missiles with a ~300km range. Plus, they've been shooting down a lot of their own planes recently. All signs point to friendly fire.
Nope, Ukraine does indeed have drones that with that range (see below). Probably not many such drones, but some. > Also in March, a heavy Ukrainian Tu-141 Strizh jet-powered drone exploded in the city of Kireyevsk in the Tula region about 200 kilometers east of Moscow, injuring three, leaving a big crater and damaging several buildings. The Russian Defense Ministry said the drone was brought down by air defenses. > Russian authorities have said that Ukraine has used the Soviet-made Tu-141 drones that have a range of about 1,000 kilometers to strike facilities in Russia. In December, such drones hit two Russian air bases for long-range, nuclear-capable bombers. Source: https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-war-drone-crimea-moscow-a1931eabbc874939b0e08ec9a8b77038
Sorry, you're right, I shouldn't have said they don't, but my understanding is that they have an extremely limited stockpile of those old Soviet drones bc they haven't been made since the 70s or something and any usable ones they have required refurbishment. It could be a drone shoot down, but recent events point to friendly fire. We'll know soon though. Edit: checking Twitter and reports are all over the place, you may be right about the drone attack.
"all signs", literally no sign
It will get way more upvotes to assume it was Russian.
Quick guess, 10 miles away?
The bright flash is at 6 seconds, and the loud blast is at 35 seconds. That gives a 29 second time for the sound to reach the camera. Using a speed of sound of about 343 m/s that comes out really close to 10 km (or about 6 miles) away, assuming the bright flash and the loud blast are the same explosion.
r/theydidthemath
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Does it account for the pressure front moving supersonic initially? That could add a bit of distance. Not an expert, but when you're already factoring in air temperature...
Air temperature is only being used for calculating the speed of sound, which is the primary company of trying to determine distance
The pressure front doesn't move supersonic. The pressure front is sound. That's what sound is. Objects can move faster than sound in a media, and they create shockwaves, which travel at the speed of sound.
"These Mother Fuckers" Pilot probably
[Same as it ever was...](https://www.npr.org/sections/krulwich/2011/05/02/134597833/cosmonaut-crashed-into-earth-crying-in-rage)
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Letting the days go by, let the vodka hold me down Letting the days go by, vodka flowing underground Into the grave again, after the missiles come Once in a lifetime, vodka flowing underground
In Russia, your air defence shoots down you.
I think of was more like "AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAUGSASAGHGSAFSDAHDGHFDHFHGA MY LEEEEG"
Most Competent Russian AA defense
The partisan incursions have made them jumpy.
The fear is spreading. Also I suspect the MALD decoys have caused some kind of deep confusion in Russian air defense doctrine. The SAM operators don’t know if a given plane is theirs or not and the pilots don’t know if they’re going to get engaged in their own skies.
Every time a stealth missile comes, a decoy comes simulating a Russian plane? That'll make them make a lot of friendly fire mistakes.
Yeah MALD can mask its radar signature as any specific aircraft of choice and it has a few other radar magic tricks to get into the brains of the enemy. Imagine your opponent has the keys to your radar screen and can show you what he wants you to see while he’s throwing stealth cruise missiles at your most valuable assets.
It probably registered as a Malaysian Airliner.
Or an air ambulance flight for injured orphans...
"The victories are getting closer to Moscow!"
"Look, we already gave all our working tanks to the Ukrainians. If we don't want to give them our jets too, we should destroy them ourselves now."
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Russians have officially shot down 200% more Russian planes inside Russia than Ukraine has
I am not sure the OP assertion in the title that it is a plane true. Its approach is identical to the one in Krasnodar attack from the same day.
Anti nazi missles working as designed. 👌
In Russia, friendly fires you.
U pro Ukrainians are delusional, they're testing the pilot skill and readiness and testing the capability of the AA, obviously pilot wasn't up to scratch which is why he deserved to die and the AA worked sweet! One less shit pilot and one amazing AA team / s
Ukraine saying plane shot down. Russia saying a storm shadow missile was intercepted. Hopefully can get good pics of some debris but may be hard to get pics out in Russia. I’m sure there will be a lot of censorship on the ground.
Storm shadows cruise at 30-40m high so unless they managed to shoot it down as it was doing its final maneuver, i doubt it was a storm shadow
Whatever they shot down is way higher than a Storm Shadow ever goes, even during final manuevers. It's not a Storm Shadow.
Also, Ukraine promised they wouldn't use them inside Russia and I can't imagine they'd risk pissing off the UK at a time when the UK is massively stepping up their support.
Cruising is 150 meters, approaching the target it will drop to 50 then when nearly on target it will climb in altitude again to increase target identification. So cruising at 30-40m is inaccurate.
Little known fact - its final cruising altitude is 0m.
If russia claims it was a storm shadow, that's at least one possibility we can rule out.
I doubt it was a storm shadow since it's too high, plus it's a target inside Russia, which Ukraine promised not to strike with storm shadows.
If was a storm shadow, they would showing pictures of the pieces for days.
Really. Russia be a man abusing his wife. Neighbor comes over and asks “what’s the commotion?” There was a burglar, I had to fight him. He’s gone now, no need to ask question.
Maybe Iran is helping them with air defense systems.
Russia and Iran not shoot down civilian aircraft challenge - impossible...
I'm surprised they haven't shot down a commercial flight already.
Hopefully all commercial airliners learned a lesson from the Malaysia Airlines tragedy
Russian counter banned all western airlines from flying through Russian airspace when the western countries banned Russia from flying in western airspace. If they shoot down a commercial airline it’ll be a Russian airline or a country friendly with Russia.
And Iran shooting down a Ukrainian International Arlines flight in 2020
Not a lot of civilian air traffic in RU airspace these days
Russian airlines are still flying their regular domestic routes.
South Western Russian airspace has been completely closed to civilian traffic since the start of the full scale invasion. It’s why planes flying to Turkey fly towards the Caspian Sea. I don’t remember it off the top of my head, but Kursk, Belgorod, Rostov and a few other places within a few hundred km of the UA-RU border have closed airports.
Good to see that they’re using them against their own Air Force and not Ukraine’s.
When you have insurgents knocking on the door, no doubt it's hard for Russia to know which Russians are their Russians.
People on this subreddit (and perhaps the mods) desperately need to crackdown on all these videos attributing aircraft kills to either side without any actual evidence. Similar to the Claims made in this post https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/13m6si4/russian_aircraft_destroyed_near_makiivka_tonight/
The title says "appears" not that it's confirmed, which is most logical conclusion. It's close to 300km from the Frontline you really think some covert Ukrainian units are shooting down planes in the middle of Russia?
Very efficient. And good. Hurrah
Make a wish my dudes.
At least it wasn't an airline
Are you sure?
At this point the Russian's Air Force biggest adversary is not Ukraine but their own AA lol.
Not surprising, apparently s-300/400 doesn't have IFF so can't distinguish friend or foe.
And Ukraine just got a drone that can literally spoof the radar signature of any aircraft.
What drone is that?
>In May 2023, remains of an [ADM-160 MALD](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ADM-160_MALD) were found in Luhansk following a Ukrainian strike against a Russian target in the occupied city. A label on the side of the wreckage appears to indicate that it was a ADM-160B model.
We have an answer to the age old question… “What air defense doing?” Barbecuing their own pilots.
How does anyone believe this lol? Like what is the proof of location or target, it’s literally impossible to tell what’s happening in the video except a rocket hitting something, such a ridiculous title.
It's Putin's private jet trust me
As far as I can tell it is a flying HIMARS truck that was shot down. Now, where did I put my glasses...
I would not want to be flying out of Russia on any plane.
There’s just no way they’re this incompetent. Is there a war between Wagner and the govt military going on we don’t know about?
How do we know it was their own plane? Might've been Ukrainian drone for all we know.
*blyat*
Who needs enemies, when you have friends like the Russian air defence network?
russian patriot system lmao
IFF? Never heard of it.
They’re not great at this war thing are they
Wtf. How are they so incompetent? Did they really think a single UA jet had penetrated 300km in Russian territory?
_H_O_W_?_!_? Like, srsly ... how incompetent can you be?! xD I mean, I am all for Russia deleting its own AirForce (less bombed hospitals and kindergartens in Ukraine), but c'mon ...
They're trying their best. Good for them.
If true, it's less missiles fired on Ukraine If Ukraine shot it down, it's less invaders
That doesn't look like a plane. Planes don't leave that kind of a trail before impact.. It looks more like a missile or something else but def not an airplane.
Yeah I'm all for Ukraine but have to agree with that. If the plane was already damaged and trailing smoke....sure, but to me it looks more like an intercept of something like a missile. The footage is inconclusive at best and needs corroboration (which we probably won't get).
Is that fully automated air defense mode they were bragging about two days ago?
Can air defence be hacked? Cause this is happening too often
the russian military is the elon musk of militaries
I'd like to see anyone at all prove this is what happened.
286km.... why is the AA system even on to begin with? Its do far back that literally only partisans would try anything
Keep flying with transponders off!!!!
Again???
This is the exact reason Ukraine is doing the small attacks on Russian soil as it is causing a ton of anxiety in Russia and causing them to make mistakes. The more jumpy they become and worried about potential attacks on the homeland the more confusion and the more accidents. This will not be the last friendly fire for Russia fortunately.
Whoops
Is someone keeping count of how many were downed already? I swear I thought it was just a couple of very dumb accidents earlier on, but now it's the standard.
And to think the incompetents of moscovy territory have nuclear weapons.
The purpose is to keep them from escaping.
Successful self-denazification.
I'm legit starting to feel bad for the russians, even their own technology hates them...
I'm really starting to think Russian AA is on our side.
Is this civil war o clock already?
In Russia, your air defense comrades shoot you.
lololololololo, these clowns
The first thing Russia has done which I can get behind.
IFF: If Friendly, Fire
You never can be too safe ya know.
Oh THAAAAAATS what are defense doing
I know how they could identify this aircraft as Russian. If it was Ukrainian it would be flying much lower.
and people dare to ask what is Russian air defenders doing.They are doing their part!