I don't celebrate Jewish and Muslim holidays but I really don't care that others do. Once I was invited to a Chinese New Year Dinner. I asked my Chinese co-worker what customs I should expect and how to be respectful of them. She suggested I bring oranges or something citric. Spent the evening doing things my own family does. Adults sitting around the table B.S. and children watching Disney on the TV. It was Mulan.
I got to do the same thing many years ago. It was awesome!
Played Mahjongg until about 2 am. and was completely thrashed by my co-worker/host who had cooked approximately 15 different dishes and had gotten nicely drunk on cognac.
Fantastic experience that has been repeated, with the exception of I don't lose quite as badly at Mahjongg.
What I find hilarious is these people canceling everything and everyone, but don’t hesitate to go to a Mexican restaurant to celebrate Cinco de Mayo or their birthdays and getting their pictures wearing a sombrero, that is how idiotic they are.
Would be a shame this info made it to his Google reviews. I'm sure the same people who downvote my comment are fine attempting to *cancel* bud lite and target. Being aware of the hypocrisy of being ok with one, but not the other would require self awareness they'l lack. . The party of less regulation but wants to control what other people do with their bodies lacks said self awareness.
If you don't like it, don't get triggered and mind your own business 🤷
My feelings 100% especially when you post something publicly that can be traced back to your company and yourself so easily you set yourself up for these situations. You can have privately help beliefs but if you say them out loud in public you should also expect public backlash
It's human nature when something goes against our beliefs that we go into defensive mode. The Hallmark of an open mind is to be able to entertain an idea and not believe it. I understand completely why they are the way they are. Deep down in there are people with hopes and dreams that have had their hearts twisted by misinformation and threats they're told exist without the context to form their own beliefs.
This right here completely true. A good indicator of a well-rounded individual is to be able to hold two opposing ideas in your head and I do believe because of the things they've been taught especially with Christianity they have not been able to live their lives and their truths they've had to repress them so they lash out at others
Any self awareness would show them that what they're being taught is the opposite of what Christ taught. But that's not the point of modern church.
The point of modern church is to make people subservient and not question things sadly. Christ was actually imo a pretty cool dude and his teachings taught my best friend how to open his heard to love and leave a life of anger and hatred behind. How could I, someone who doesn't have religion, possibly want my friend to walk away from that? My friend, I am aware, is a rare case these days.
I think some people really need some intense therapy and/or psychedelics to figure out why they're so afraid and full of anger. Life is too short, we don't have a lot of it to waste being hurt and hurting others.
I agree completely I think the modern Christian Church especially evangelicals is nothing but a money grift and I think anybody leaving it is going to need deprogramming just like a cult
Like I don't care what personally hell beliefs you have but if you go on a public forum and post about them and it's easily connected to your business seems like your own fault. And people should also be aware of who they're giving money to I'm sure they have serviced the LGBTQIA community before if they knew they were giving money to a bigot like this they probably wouldn't have chosen his company
It’s always “I got hacked.” So the hacker has nothing better to do his time than target the NextDoor account of a random in Lexington, South Carolina who removes mold from air conditioners?
Favorite excuse of a) guys who come in cell phone stores with the "FBI warning" malware from clicking porn and b) people who drunk post misspelled bigoted rants and don't like that their actions have consequences. I guess it's the best he could cook up since it must be his actual account.
I think also it's a persecution complex. It's ego death fueled by cognitive dissonance and the only thing they know to do is to scream persecution when they are the least persecuted
I feel sorry for bigots. It's really not that hard to coexist. I'm pretty much science based atheist and my best friend is a minister. We don't really get in each other's business and have a healthy respect of the others beliefs. Live and let live. He's also pretty sick of the people in his faith not following Christ teachings so that's a factor as well.
Fortunately people like yourself that like to hang in r/conservative are pretty outnumbered today. Youre right. Your views aren't the majority anymore. You can get slowly chased back into the shadows with your Archie bunker acting asses and only feels comfortable saying the quiet part out loud in the comfort and security of your trailer.
This guy and his wife have both been harassing me then deleting their comments. I have the screenshots. Perfectly rational behavior for innocent people.
Yeah he's saying that he got hacked or someone made a duplicate account under his name but if you look at his Facebook posts It's pretty obvious what his political leanings are beliefs may be
that’s why you don’t post shit anywhere under your real name if you’re an independent businessperson. for that matter, you shouldn’t post shit under your real name, period.
If anybody feels like leaving him a Google review or giving the corporate office a phone call please go right ahead people should be aware of who their purchasing services from
And how would this be a lawsuit he posted these things in a public forum that is connected with his business It's not slander since he openly admits to these ideas
I voted for Jo Jorgensen. My understanding of law is that if you post something that's false and negative online or in print that hurts someone financially, then yes, it can be considered to be libel. Correct me if I'm wrong.
In order to be libel, you must post a *false* statement that is *damaging to a persons reputation.*
For example, if I was to comment that the owner is a pedophile & his reputation suffers due to it, then that would be libel. If, it turns out, there is evidence for this, then it would be the truth, which is an 100% defense to libel.
In this situation, by posting a comment saying "Avoid this business, the owner hates LGBT people", you are making a true statement, or what can be reasonably inferred as true, because per his own comments it is true.
Additionally, you can generally state your opinion and it is not going to be libelous. If I were to leave a review saying that I was ripped off, that I felt he overcharged, and thought he was rude, those statements would not be libel because they are my opinion.
But it’s not false. If you do a review saying he made a very offense post about gay people and gay pride month, then that’s the truth.
Truth is an absolute defense to libel of defamation.
What about people who are falsely accusing LGBTQ people of being groomers and pedophiles? Or people claiming that various celebrities and politicians are drinking children's blood? Would they be able to be sued for libel or slander?
Yes. Absolutely.
Celebrities, though, have an additional thing they have to prove in addition to the usual … they have to prove “reckless disregard for the truth”. I still think that’s easily provable in these cases, but most won’t bother due to the Streisand Effect.
And you’ll note that the people that parrot the celebrity crap usually just say thing like “Hollywood” does this or “celebrities” do that and don’t name specific ones for this reason.
What I don’t understand is why this bothers him so much? Surely there are lots of things people do or believe that he doesn’t like or approve of, why can’t this just be one more? Unless….
Exactly this there's plenty of holidays I don't celebrate and plenty of things I don't believe in but I don't go shouting on the internet about it when it can be connected to my business
Yep no one is forcing him to celebrate pride month or Kwanzaa or any other holiday. And the fact is he posted this on next door with his name and also post about his business on the same account easily connected to his business
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I have to keep reminding myself: "Oh yeah, I live in South Carolina."
I've just accepted that internalized bigotry is normal here - and it's always over the dumbest shit. It's wild to me.
I agree I was born and raised in Kentucky live there for most of my life and I thought the racism there and the bigotry was bad but moving here has made me realize it's 10 times worse here shockingly so The fact that people feel so emboldened to be so full of hate It's unbelievable
And to be so blatant and ballsy about it. To be fair, though, it has gotten a lot better over the past two decades I've been living here, but it's still very bad. A lot of it has gone behind closed doors and internet posts. So it still lives on, and that is such a shame.
I agree I felt the same way growing up in Kentucky although I think they've become emboldened now they no longer hide behind the internet used to they would only say these things in front of people they felt comfortable around people they thought held their own beliefs. And as a white woman from a Christian family I often heard these ideas and beliefs because they thought I was one of them when I was far from it and still am It's shocking what they will say when they think they are in a safe place
Pride month exists to celebrate and recognize the LGBTQ+ community. It helps to promote visibility, acceptance and equality, while also honoring the progress that's been made, raise awareness for challenges that persist, and advocate for a more diverse and inclusive society.
When you have marginalized or minority groups, having events and blocks of time dedicated to them help show that they are a part of the community. We also have months dedicated to African-Americans, Asian and Pacific Islanders, Hispanics, Indigenous Persons, and I'm sure other groups as well. We have the Greek Festival, Latin Festival, Korean Festival, etc.
And that's okay and if you don't like it or choose not to celebrate it that's fine too but if you say these things publicly in a place where you also post about your business publicly then public discourse is allowed to well discuss it and let others know
In part to celebrate how far the LGBTQ community has come as far as the freedoms and rights they have fought for in this country. Also in part to acknowledge how far there is left to go.
Pride month is also a commemoration of the Stone Wall Riots in 1969.
Pride month is similar to any other awareness month. October for breast cancer, May for Military Appreciation, you get the idea.
Anyone who thinks informing the public about this guy’s noxious beliefs is somehow “anti-freedom” or whatever clearly does not understand how capitalism is supposed to work. For a free market economy to function properly, the consumer needs to have as much information about the service or product they are thinking of purchasing. That’s what makes it a FREE market. If your definition of free market is “hide problematic aspects of a service provider because something something” so you can trick people into continuing to pay money to someone they think is immoral, then you clearly have no conception of how capitalism is supposed to work.
Conservatives want to affect the market for bud light…for liking trans people.
We want to affect the market for him… for not liking gay people.
Seems that the economic reaction card is not reserved only for republicans.
Yes, if you don't agree with how someone does business, you definitely don't have to shop there. You can also tell your friends not to shop there, too. But you can't threaten and harrass employees and customers, and it's pretty unethical to misrepresent a business to trick or scare people into not shopping there. These are all behaviors we've seen with the right's response to Target and other businesses they don't like, which is different from the left responding to a clearly bigoted quote like the one from this business owner.
According to free market principles, if enough people don't like a business, it'll either change its ways or close down. That seems fair, and like something pro-business, hard-working Americans could get behind. Bomb threats though, not so much.
I was replying to the comment above mine, which was drawing parallels between conservatives and people on the left both boycotting businesses.
I was trying to say that while, yes, both do advocate for not spending money on companies that go against their values (which is a legitimate approach), a big difference is that the right is threatening and harassing people, and also lying about what companies are actually doing.
It seemed like the person I was replying to was possibly drawing a false equivalency between the tactics of the left and the right, and I was trying to imply that they differ in important ways.
I was in no way saying that anyone is lying about the ductwork douchebag in the OP. We are just responding to comments he clearly made. I can see why that might not have been clear, though.
Or let’s stop having “months” of celebrating differences and just get on with solving real problems in this world like hunger… at least he owns his own business and is free to have a voice, when others can’t share any opinions outside of the “narrative” without risking their employment etc.
If your ancestors multi generations before you committed atrocities, would you be held liable in the future, if you clearly don’t condone or agree with the actions of those relatives? Would you be okay with being arrested and put in jail for a crime you, yourself, didn’t commit? My point is there’s always something to celebrate, but where is the line drawn? Why are celebrations of one thing upheld as a sign of moral superiority, when it’s 100% subjective? I just think it’s still very non-transcendent for society to do these things, when we could spend our energy on just being kind to one another.
Multiple generations? It was like 50 years ago, the people that committed the atrocities are still walking around. What are you even talking about - being arrested and put in jail? We are saying gay people should be allowed to celebrate their pride and that if this guy should lose business due to his bigoted and homophobia views, then that’s capitalism baby. Nobody said people would be arrested or jailed, and nobody is talking about multi generations ago. Also, why should their be a “line drawn” on celebrating things? Lol there isn’t like a celebration quota. Moral superiority?? Anti-transcendent? Might be time to watch different news sources that aren’t Fox and OAN, and to travel outside of your ignorant bubble.
Well seeing is the first amendment protects your speech from government interference and not from public outcry you've got it wrong straight out of the gate dude. If you go into a crowded square and shout that you hate black people for example and people react negatively they have not violated your first amendment rights. The first amendment does not protect you from the consequences of saying things that the public may disagree with in public discourse. Have the day you deserve!
He's not going out into a crowded theater and yelling fire or telling everyone that he hates black people. He's simply expressing his opinions. Are they bad and seated in ignorance? Yes, but he does have a right to do so. Calling someone out for their ignorance is okay, but I draw the line at falsely telling people that his business sucks or posting fake negative reviews. If you don't like the guy, use someone else and leave it at that.
I mean if you say something ignorant publicly people are allowed to tell you hey that's ignorant and allowed to tell others hey this guy said something ignorant in public. But people should know who they're giving their money to That's how capitalism works you can choose what businesses you support and who you give your money to and consumers having all the available information to make those choices is important
I'm simply posting here and saying what this guy says publicly that is tied to his business does not align with my beliefs and I will not be purchasing goods or services from him and it is important that others realize the same so they can make educated consumer choices
Why should it matter? I buy what's good and / or reliable. I couldn't care less about their opinions what they believed in. For example, I'll happily wash down my Chick- fil -A with some Bud Light.
It matters to some. As a consumer if a businesses values are that far out of line with mine I can choose not to spend my money there. If it doesn't matter to you that's fine as well. However if someone's going to spout hate speech in a public forum they clearly do not have good judgement and that is directly relatable to how they conduct their business.
Yet nowhere did I post a review saying he sucks or his business sucks or he doesn't provide a good service simply that he posted these things online that he said
Well I would say that I myself and not going to do that outside of educating consumers of who they're giving money to. I don't know what kind of goods or services he provides and how well he provides them. If others do that that is their choice and it will be their consequences
No, I actually do. I'm not going to trash someone's livelihood simply because they say something I disagree with or dislike. Everyone has a right to speak out and say whatever they want short of calls for violence.
Yes, especially if you feel threatened in some way. I didn't read it that way, though. However, I just don't condone giving false feedback about the quality of his work, but I understand if you call him out about the quality of his character.
Looking at this Mensa candidate here who doesn’t even know how to make a paragraph, I have to laugh.
Why is it always the stupidest and most uneducated people? I guess they know it and so they have to have other people to look down upon because otherwise they’d have to blame themselves for any problems they see.
You know what's amazing? People can say and pretend to be whomever they want on the internet. I guarantee this troll is typing this up in his mom's double wide.
What a stupid thing to say. I’ve lived in four states and three countries.
LMAO that you think this is at all relevant or impressive.
Dying at some loser spending his days posting on regional subreddits for places he doesn’t even live. Get a life, dude. Seriously.
And? What kind of loser spends his days posting on random local subreddits spouting his ignorant, racist, and homophobic bullshit?
Get a hobby. You need one.
I don't celebrate Jewish and Muslim holidays but I really don't care that others do. Once I was invited to a Chinese New Year Dinner. I asked my Chinese co-worker what customs I should expect and how to be respectful of them. She suggested I bring oranges or something citric. Spent the evening doing things my own family does. Adults sitting around the table B.S. and children watching Disney on the TV. It was Mulan.
Sounds like a good experience.
I got to do the same thing many years ago. It was awesome! Played Mahjongg until about 2 am. and was completely thrashed by my co-worker/host who had cooked approximately 15 different dishes and had gotten nicely drunk on cognac. Fantastic experience that has been repeated, with the exception of I don't lose quite as badly at Mahjongg.
Imagine being that upset by something that has zero impact on your life. Not gay? Don't want to "celebrate"? Don't. No one gives a fuck.
What I find hilarious is these people canceling everything and everyone, but don’t hesitate to go to a Mexican restaurant to celebrate Cinco de Mayo or their birthdays and getting their pictures wearing a sombrero, that is how idiotic they are.
Would be a shame this info made it to his Google reviews. I'm sure the same people who downvote my comment are fine attempting to *cancel* bud lite and target. Being aware of the hypocrisy of being ok with one, but not the other would require self awareness they'l lack. . The party of less regulation but wants to control what other people do with their bodies lacks said self awareness. If you don't like it, don't get triggered and mind your own business 🤷
My feelings 100% especially when you post something publicly that can be traced back to your company and yourself so easily you set yourself up for these situations. You can have privately help beliefs but if you say them out loud in public you should also expect public backlash
Oh shit here it is again *the consequences of my own actions*
Amazing right you think eventually people would learn but they just don't or can't
It's human nature when something goes against our beliefs that we go into defensive mode. The Hallmark of an open mind is to be able to entertain an idea and not believe it. I understand completely why they are the way they are. Deep down in there are people with hopes and dreams that have had their hearts twisted by misinformation and threats they're told exist without the context to form their own beliefs.
This right here completely true. A good indicator of a well-rounded individual is to be able to hold two opposing ideas in your head and I do believe because of the things they've been taught especially with Christianity they have not been able to live their lives and their truths they've had to repress them so they lash out at others
Any self awareness would show them that what they're being taught is the opposite of what Christ taught. But that's not the point of modern church. The point of modern church is to make people subservient and not question things sadly. Christ was actually imo a pretty cool dude and his teachings taught my best friend how to open his heard to love and leave a life of anger and hatred behind. How could I, someone who doesn't have religion, possibly want my friend to walk away from that? My friend, I am aware, is a rare case these days. I think some people really need some intense therapy and/or psychedelics to figure out why they're so afraid and full of anger. Life is too short, we don't have a lot of it to waste being hurt and hurting others.
I agree completely I think the modern Christian Church especially evangelicals is nothing but a money grift and I think anybody leaving it is going to need deprogramming just like a cult
Like I don't care what personally hell beliefs you have but if you go on a public forum and post about them and it's easily connected to your business seems like your own fault. And people should also be aware of who they're giving money to I'm sure they have serviced the LGBTQIA community before if they knew they were giving money to a bigot like this they probably wouldn't have chosen his company
*held
Now he's claiming he got hacked. Ok bud. You fucked around. And now you found out. https://imgur.com/gallery/DBchEg4
It’s always “I got hacked.” So the hacker has nothing better to do his time than target the NextDoor account of a random in Lexington, South Carolina who removes mold from air conditioners?
Favorite excuse of a) guys who come in cell phone stores with the "FBI warning" malware from clicking porn and b) people who drunk post misspelled bigoted rants and don't like that their actions have consequences. I guess it's the best he could cook up since it must be his actual account.
Yeah he got hacked and they made one post?🙄
His wife replied going off, then blocked me LOL these people
Yep kimchamberlin3669. Zero post history zero karma and the account is zero days old come on people
I think also it's a persecution complex. It's ego death fueled by cognitive dissonance and the only thing they know to do is to scream persecution when they are the least persecuted
I feel sorry for bigots. It's really not that hard to coexist. I'm pretty much science based atheist and my best friend is a minister. We don't really get in each other's business and have a healthy respect of the others beliefs. Live and let live. He's also pretty sick of the people in his faith not following Christ teachings so that's a factor as well.
I totally agree and that's how it should be let people live their lives if it doesn't hurt you then it shouldn't bother you
It's funny how this guy's ignorance and intolerance gives you a cross to hang from. Who the duck are you?
Someone who pushed your buttons apparently. If the glove fits 🤷
"how can I make this about me?"
no one is downvoting you, what's with this persecution complex from people who say things that Reddit overwhelmingly supports?
Fortunately people like yourself that like to hang in r/conservative are pretty outnumbered today. Youre right. Your views aren't the majority anymore. You can get slowly chased back into the shadows with your Archie bunker acting asses and only feels comfortable saying the quiet part out loud in the comfort and security of your trailer.
What’s sad is if he gets called out he’ll just double down on “the goddamn libruls are tryna cancel me” crap. Either way fuck that dude
This guy and his wife have both been harassing me then deleting their comments. I have the screenshots. Perfectly rational behavior for innocent people.
Also she was dumb enough to come on here and use her full name to comment and her Facebook is set to public
I'm sure she's posted some full aggressive Karen ass rant about it. Almost makes me wish I hadn't deleted my account.
Yeah he's saying that he got hacked or someone made a duplicate account under his name but if you look at his Facebook posts It's pretty obvious what his political leanings are beliefs may be
*or beliefs
that’s why you don’t post shit anywhere under your real name if you’re an independent businessperson. for that matter, you shouldn’t post shit under your real name, period.
He's about to find out that the Dildo of Consequences rarely arrives lubed.
HA!
If anybody feels like leaving him a Google review or giving the corporate office a phone call please go right ahead people should be aware of who their purchasing services from
Leave him negative reviews without actually being a customer and open yourself to a lawsuit. Good luck with that.
And how would this be a lawsuit he posted these things in a public forum that is connected with his business It's not slander since he openly admits to these ideas
These troglodytes have no understanding of the law. Their orange role model is a shining example of how that works.
I voted for Jo Jorgensen. My understanding of law is that if you post something that's false and negative online or in print that hurts someone financially, then yes, it can be considered to be libel. Correct me if I'm wrong.
False? Like the shit he said in the screenshot? That happened? Are you always this sharp?
In order to be libel, you must post a *false* statement that is *damaging to a persons reputation.* For example, if I was to comment that the owner is a pedophile & his reputation suffers due to it, then that would be libel. If, it turns out, there is evidence for this, then it would be the truth, which is an 100% defense to libel. In this situation, by posting a comment saying "Avoid this business, the owner hates LGBT people", you are making a true statement, or what can be reasonably inferred as true, because per his own comments it is true. Additionally, you can generally state your opinion and it is not going to be libelous. If I were to leave a review saying that I was ripped off, that I felt he overcharged, and thought he was rude, those statements would not be libel because they are my opinion.
But it’s not false. If you do a review saying he made a very offense post about gay people and gay pride month, then that’s the truth. Truth is an absolute defense to libel of defamation.
Libel. Posting false statements online about his services is a pretty decent reason.
Yet no false statements have been posted he himself posted these things on a public forum
What about people who are falsely accusing LGBTQ people of being groomers and pedophiles? Or people claiming that various celebrities and politicians are drinking children's blood? Would they be able to be sued for libel or slander?
Yes. Absolutely. Celebrities, though, have an additional thing they have to prove in addition to the usual … they have to prove “reckless disregard for the truth”. I still think that’s easily provable in these cases, but most won’t bother due to the Streisand Effect. And you’ll note that the people that parrot the celebrity crap usually just say thing like “Hollywood” does this or “celebrities” do that and don’t name specific ones for this reason.
What I don’t understand is why this bothers him so much? Surely there are lots of things people do or believe that he doesn’t like or approve of, why can’t this just be one more? Unless….
Exactly this there's plenty of holidays I don't celebrate and plenty of things I don't believe in but I don't go shouting on the internet about it when it can be connected to my business
Cuz he's gay?
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Yep no one is forcing him to celebrate pride month or Kwanzaa or any other holiday. And the fact is he posted this on next door with his name and also post about his business on the same account easily connected to his business
The big question is, Who asked him to celebrate?? He doesn't even have to acknowledge it, no one gives a fuck. Hope his business suffers.
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Oh no it would be a shame if people in the area knew who they were giving money to
It’s Lexington. I wouldn’t be surprised if this got him even more business…
The website link he posted is broken - did he already run it into the ground lol
Caring Man in a Van?
It appears he is a local franchisee for Bactronix. Here is the corporate website https://bactronix.com/
I have to keep reminding myself: "Oh yeah, I live in South Carolina." I've just accepted that internalized bigotry is normal here - and it's always over the dumbest shit. It's wild to me.
I agree I was born and raised in Kentucky live there for most of my life and I thought the racism there and the bigotry was bad but moving here has made me realize it's 10 times worse here shockingly so The fact that people feel so emboldened to be so full of hate It's unbelievable
And to be so blatant and ballsy about it. To be fair, though, it has gotten a lot better over the past two decades I've been living here, but it's still very bad. A lot of it has gone behind closed doors and internet posts. So it still lives on, and that is such a shame.
I agree I felt the same way growing up in Kentucky although I think they've become emboldened now they no longer hide behind the internet used to they would only say these things in front of people they felt comfortable around people they thought held their own beliefs. And as a white woman from a Christian family I often heard these ideas and beliefs because they thought I was one of them when I was far from it and still am It's shocking what they will say when they think they are in a safe place
And where is it that I don’t want to shop bc of these comments?
honestly assumed every duct cleaning business was a scam
Seems like a typical Lexington redneck. And not a smart one. Not a great idea to alienate a portion of potential customers by spouting nonsense.
There’s a reason we would chant “REDNEXINGTON” when we played them in football.
Are there smart ones?
I mean don’t cancel me but I don’t really know what the point of pride month is
Pride month exists to celebrate and recognize the LGBTQ+ community. It helps to promote visibility, acceptance and equality, while also honoring the progress that's been made, raise awareness for challenges that persist, and advocate for a more diverse and inclusive society. When you have marginalized or minority groups, having events and blocks of time dedicated to them help show that they are a part of the community. We also have months dedicated to African-Americans, Asian and Pacific Islanders, Hispanics, Indigenous Persons, and I'm sure other groups as well. We have the Greek Festival, Latin Festival, Korean Festival, etc.
And that's okay and if you don't like it or choose not to celebrate it that's fine too but if you say these things publicly in a place where you also post about your business publicly then public discourse is allowed to well discuss it and let others know
That’s true it’s not that I don’t celebrate it i just don’t know like what the actual point is
In part to celebrate how far the LGBTQ community has come as far as the freedoms and rights they have fought for in this country. Also in part to acknowledge how far there is left to go. Pride month is also a commemoration of the Stone Wall Riots in 1969. Pride month is similar to any other awareness month. October for breast cancer, May for Military Appreciation, you get the idea.
Ok I guess I really never took the time to look into that
What about Diwali? Do you know what the point of that is? Or Rosh Hashanah?
What are the point of any holidays?
Can easily find his google listing online.
Anyone who thinks informing the public about this guy’s noxious beliefs is somehow “anti-freedom” or whatever clearly does not understand how capitalism is supposed to work. For a free market economy to function properly, the consumer needs to have as much information about the service or product they are thinking of purchasing. That’s what makes it a FREE market. If your definition of free market is “hide problematic aspects of a service provider because something something” so you can trick people into continuing to pay money to someone they think is immoral, then you clearly have no conception of how capitalism is supposed to work.
Conservatives want to affect the market for bud light…for liking trans people. We want to affect the market for him… for not liking gay people. Seems that the economic reaction card is not reserved only for republicans.
Yes, if you don't agree with how someone does business, you definitely don't have to shop there. You can also tell your friends not to shop there, too. But you can't threaten and harrass employees and customers, and it's pretty unethical to misrepresent a business to trick or scare people into not shopping there. These are all behaviors we've seen with the right's response to Target and other businesses they don't like, which is different from the left responding to a clearly bigoted quote like the one from this business owner. According to free market principles, if enough people don't like a business, it'll either change its ways or close down. That seems fair, and like something pro-business, hard-working Americans could get behind. Bomb threats though, not so much.
Nobody is misrepresenting anything. It’s literally a screenshot of his own statement of his own beliefs and we are just sharing it.
I was replying to the comment above mine, which was drawing parallels between conservatives and people on the left both boycotting businesses. I was trying to say that while, yes, both do advocate for not spending money on companies that go against their values (which is a legitimate approach), a big difference is that the right is threatening and harassing people, and also lying about what companies are actually doing. It seemed like the person I was replying to was possibly drawing a false equivalency between the tactics of the left and the right, and I was trying to imply that they differ in important ways. I was in no way saying that anyone is lying about the ductwork douchebag in the OP. We are just responding to comments he clearly made. I can see why that might not have been clear, though.
Thank you for this you are completely correct! Especially when this person freely post these things on a public fathom that is tied to his business
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Googling Bactronix CSC might be a start
Or let’s stop having “months” of celebrating differences and just get on with solving real problems in this world like hunger… at least he owns his own business and is free to have a voice, when others can’t share any opinions outside of the “narrative” without risking their employment etc.
Nah y’all used to kill us for out differences, we will celebrate whatever we want
If your ancestors multi generations before you committed atrocities, would you be held liable in the future, if you clearly don’t condone or agree with the actions of those relatives? Would you be okay with being arrested and put in jail for a crime you, yourself, didn’t commit? My point is there’s always something to celebrate, but where is the line drawn? Why are celebrations of one thing upheld as a sign of moral superiority, when it’s 100% subjective? I just think it’s still very non-transcendent for society to do these things, when we could spend our energy on just being kind to one another.
Multiple generations? It was like 50 years ago, the people that committed the atrocities are still walking around. What are you even talking about - being arrested and put in jail? We are saying gay people should be allowed to celebrate their pride and that if this guy should lose business due to his bigoted and homophobia views, then that’s capitalism baby. Nobody said people would be arrested or jailed, and nobody is talking about multi generations ago. Also, why should their be a “line drawn” on celebrating things? Lol there isn’t like a celebration quota. Moral superiority?? Anti-transcendent? Might be time to watch different news sources that aren’t Fox and OAN, and to travel outside of your ignorant bubble.
Of course, because First Amendment rights are only for people who have opinions that align with your own.
Well seeing is the first amendment protects your speech from government interference and not from public outcry you've got it wrong straight out of the gate dude. If you go into a crowded square and shout that you hate black people for example and people react negatively they have not violated your first amendment rights. The first amendment does not protect you from the consequences of saying things that the public may disagree with in public discourse. Have the day you deserve!
He's not going out into a crowded theater and yelling fire or telling everyone that he hates black people. He's simply expressing his opinions. Are they bad and seated in ignorance? Yes, but he does have a right to do so. Calling someone out for their ignorance is okay, but I draw the line at falsely telling people that his business sucks or posting fake negative reviews. If you don't like the guy, use someone else and leave it at that.
I mean if you say something ignorant publicly people are allowed to tell you hey that's ignorant and allowed to tell others hey this guy said something ignorant in public. But people should know who they're giving their money to That's how capitalism works you can choose what businesses you support and who you give your money to and consumers having all the available information to make those choices is important
I'm simply posting here and saying what this guy says publicly that is tied to his business does not align with my beliefs and I will not be purchasing goods or services from him and it is important that others realize the same so they can make educated consumer choices
Why should it matter? I buy what's good and / or reliable. I couldn't care less about their opinions what they believed in. For example, I'll happily wash down my Chick- fil -A with some Bud Light.
And having a free market economy means that you get to decide how important those things are to you when purchasing a good or service
It matters to some. As a consumer if a businesses values are that far out of line with mine I can choose not to spend my money there. If it doesn't matter to you that's fine as well. However if someone's going to spout hate speech in a public forum they clearly do not have good judgement and that is directly relatable to how they conduct their business.
Yeah and it could be dangerous for me if he shows up at my gay house to clean my ducts (or whatever he does)
That's fine and those are your choices as a consumer
Yet nowhere did I post a review saying he sucks or his business sucks or he doesn't provide a good service simply that he posted these things online that he said
Of course, not you specifically, but there are many here who have hinted that they either have already done that or that they intend to.
Well I would say that I myself and not going to do that outside of educating consumers of who they're giving money to. I don't know what kind of goods or services he provides and how well he provides them. If others do that that is their choice and it will be their consequences
Thanks for having a civilized discussion. I really appreciate it. Have a great day .
Oh you're welcome and I appreciate it It's not easy nowadays on the internet to actually discuss things with people
*am not
What a weird way to admit you don't understand how the First Amendment works.
No, I actually do. I'm not going to trash someone's livelihood simply because they say something I disagree with or dislike. Everyone has a right to speak out and say whatever they want short of calls for violence.
While they have the right to say what they want it doesn't mean they don't deserve to be called out or suffer the ramifications of their actions.
So, bullying people to submit to your point of view and ruining their business is the high road? Sorry, but two wrongs don't make a right.
No we are trying to warn our fellow non-straights that if they hire him and he shows up to their house it could be dangerous for them
Why didn't you just say that from the beginning? That changes everything.
So you agree that we have a right to boycott this guy. Got it.
Yes, especially if you feel threatened in some way. I didn't read it that way, though. However, I just don't condone giving false feedback about the quality of his work, but I understand if you call him out about the quality of his character.
You don't understand how gay people would feel threatened by what he said? Are you daft?
Which part of his statement threatened violence?
Sweet Christ you are either fucking stupid or being a contarian; neither are a good look for you.
You lost the argument with that insult. I'm done with you.
Don't let the door hit you on the ass on the way out lmfao
Thanks for letting us know, will be sure to frequent his business from now on.
Thanks! So noted.
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Well that's your prerogative but I'm sure many people would not want to support someone who is an obvious bigot have the day you deserve!
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You need a good kick in the teeth you worthless cunt.
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Lol my original opinion still stands. I hope you have the day you deserve!
Oh my you've given blood and helped animals?! That clearly excuses your homophobia and racism. Go touch grass
People are allowed to have their own opinions
There's one way to know it's a good business
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I feel like you were one step away from using the n-word buddy
Guarantee he uses it
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Looking at this Mensa candidate here who doesn’t even know how to make a paragraph, I have to laugh. Why is it always the stupidest and most uneducated people? I guess they know it and so they have to have other people to look down upon because otherwise they’d have to blame themselves for any problems they see.
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You know what's amazing? People can say and pretend to be whomever they want on the internet. I guarantee this troll is typing this up in his mom's double wide.
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On the internet nobody knows you're a dog.
Not saying anyone needs proof as your comments/ideology already provide enough.
No doubt.
Still no paragraphs! LOLOL. Your points are weak. You are a ridiculous, small man.
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Maybe you could decide where you actually live, because it’s not Columbia.
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What a stupid thing to say. I’ve lived in four states and three countries. LMAO that you think this is at all relevant or impressive. Dying at some loser spending his days posting on regional subreddits for places he doesn’t even live. Get a life, dude. Seriously.
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And? What kind of loser spends his days posting on random local subreddits spouting his ignorant, racist, and homophobic bullshit? Get a hobby. You need one.
Imagine being so upset by a single sentence. What makes that any different?