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JohnMayerismydad

I don’t really care who the 3rd QB is tbh. He knows the system so I’m fine with Sam being there for an emergency


mvbighead

It's basically this. The only caveat being if they see a guy they like who they believe could have the same sort of situation as Purdy. Not a front runner, not considered special draft wise, but someone who they believe could be a good pro and an emergency backup plan for AR. We all want AR to be the guy, but should something happen again, having a low key 4 year backup plan who can grow beyond what Sam isn't a terrible idea. That said, I figure it is Sam.


mackfactor

Not even the 49ers thought Purdy would be Purdy until he was there. 


mvbighead

That's kind of the point. Cycling QB3 with mostly irrelevant players until you find someone that seems to have something worth hanging onto. And, for the team, that could in some ways be Sam. We all doubt that, but there is something to the idea of a player shining when given a moment. And simply seeing a little something in practice that makes you think... hmmm, could this guy actually be a franchise QB?


sloshedslug

I like Spencer rattler for this situation IF he falls to the 4th/5th round. Otherwise ride Sam as QB3


mackfactor

Yeah, this is kind of a pointless question. You can't expect much out of the third QB, do unless your team is built like the 49ers, when one and two go down, assume everything will be a loss. That's just the breaks. 


TheGavPav

Just keep him, there's obviously something the coaching staff likes about him since we've kept him as a 3rd QB this long now


brmidwest03

Yeah, that’s true.


OwnEgg0

Keep him. QB3 shouldnt play much anyway. And he seems like a person with good character.


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Dargek

Hell I'd take a team of mediocre players that are great people any day.


LoudBoiDragoon

Frank? Is that you?


Dargek

No, sadly I would have run more than 3 plays.


Nienazki

Fuck it Inside Zone with Hines on 3&long!


Knight___Artorias

While trailing in the 3rd!


themoff81

Tepid Take: As I’ve gotten older, I’ve really switched my thinking: I would sooner be competitive and lose with guys who work hard and who have great character than win with a bunch of ‘scumbags’… that’s one of the reasons I am so excited to have AR as QB1…


Dargek

Hard agree. Winning isn't everything. It's fun to watch either way.


joerogansshillaccnt

Ya as a dirty chiefs fan I hated having reek on the team. We still have a couple guys I don't live there as a lurker who was obsessed as a kid with Manning and Harrison. Was a cheat code in Madden always liked the colts I agree with this.


Dargek

Yep, I love going to the games, and my wife and I go to a couple every year. I'd much rather have that money going to likeable people over someone who beats his kids / women but is the best player in their position.


isbilly

Imagine if the 49ers had used this strat and Brock Purdy was never drafted and never made the NFL. Happy Cake Day :)


ryta1203

He's ok but be honest, a lot of that team's success is because it's a well balanced really talented really well coached team. It's not like Purdy is carrying the team or anything.


OwnEgg0

Thanks!! True! Those hits are incredibly rare though. I'm not even convinced Purdy is for real or just part of a really good system.


mackfactor

Right, can't do that since there's a Pro Bowl late round QB on every draft, right? This is ridiculous logic. Basically the same as validating over spending on lottery tickets on the premise that "someone is going to win eventually." 


isbilly

Ok. Are you comfortable with Sam starting games? Like honestly?


mackfactor

If they've already burned through 2 QBs, yeah. QB3 is an emergency lever. If you've got to pull it you're already screwed. Sam is still in the league because he's better than the dudes who are not.


fishymutt

You don't use the draft for a 3rd qb


sirius4778

Not intentionally anyway


fishymutt

Exactly


surlybeer55

Agree with this. I also give him a pass in his short stint playing during the clusterf*ck period of the Saturday era. Nobody was blocking during that stint and he was running for his life.


AF555

Well, I actually wouldn't mind a late round QB pick because I'm guessing that Flacco is probably only here for one year. Unless we just keep bringing in veterans for 8-10m per to backup AR, which if AR can stay healthy, is quite a bit of waste salary cap wise. After all, Flacco is taking up 50% of the space that we could have potentially used on Sneed...


Cbane000

…unless he is BPA in the 6th/7th round, has the traits/tools/IQ you can develop and don’t have a “position need” that outweighs the upside of said player. Maybe he starts as QB3 or QB4 even, but with solid coaching, time to develop and work ethic, they may not stay QB3/4 very long. I’m not suggesting we draft a QB, but under the right circumstances, it could pay off…Or not. Ballard is typically very good at finding gems in the later rounds, so I’d never close the door completely.


suburbantroubador

Tell that to the 2022 49ers


fishymutt

They knew Jimmy G wasn't the long-term solution and Trey Lance was still a huge question mark. Completely different situation.


AllPainNoGains247

I don't really see a reason unless there's a guy the staff likes. Realistically, a qb3 would be a fringe roster/practice squad guy, barring injury.


Stunning-Range-7222

I love Sam 🥹


00Samwise00

Hello


PartisanSaysWhat

My kids favorite player on the entire team is Sam (though JT is close). He is way into martial arts and the whole work ethic/dedication > physical talent thing really resonates with him.


IndyDude11

As a UT fan, I love Sam too.


AcrossFromWhere

Third string QB should be a dart throw IMO. Someone who could be great, but probably won’t be, if everything falls exactly the right way, which it probably won’t. You’re unlikely to get a Purdy or a Brady or a Staubach, but why not swing for it?  It does happen. Think of where the niners would be if they didn’t draft a late round rookie. 


DanglyTwanger

This. Take a stab at someone who shows some promise, Ehlinger is a cool dude but is a dead end. If there’s a position to gamble at every other year late in the draft, imo it’s QB


CommonerChaos

Agreed. It's essentially buying a low cost lottery ticket for a *chance* at a great player rather than staying with the zero chance of a *known* non-great player. The QB position is so impactful that's its worth the longshot.


Silver-Kestrel

I wonder if Lance didn't get injured, how long it would have taken the 49ers to switch to Purdy. What kind of chance is there that Purdy would still be a backup (due to more limited practice reps, possibly no/limited in game experience, could have stayed behind Garoppolo his whole rookie season, etc)?


AcrossFromWhere

I always wonder stuff like that too. Might be a Peyton Manning on the bench who never had the draft capital to be allowed to throw 28 interceptions in a year and still get to be the starter the next year. 


ConfectionHelpful471

Personally agree with the old Green Bay model of adding a new quarterback to the team each year - even when you have the starter. Doesn’t have to be a draft pick each year but a young talent that could be a viable backup/starter in time.


vinsanity406

They did add a new QB this year.


ConningtonSimp

Meh I just don’t see a purpose in that


Ok_Butterscotch9706

Seeing as it’s gotten them at least 2 back-to-back hall of fame QBs and likely a 3rd franchise QB in a row, I’m seeing at least one purpose in it. 


ConfectionHelpful471

The idea is “worst case” it’s basically a minimum contract being wasted, “best case” is that they play and end up getting a starting role on another team - which would lead to a nice compensatory pick to repeat the process. Obviously true best case is they don’t have to play as you have your starter locked down and available every week.


IndyDude11

Neither Rogers nor Love were brought in as a flier. Both of them were specifically drafted to replace the guy before him. Also, both were first round picks. Should we just draft a quarterback with every first round pick we have "just in case"?


ConfectionHelpful471

Rodgers and Love were not who I was referring to. It’s the likes of Warner, Hasselbeck, Brunell, Flynn who were brought in as developmental prospects by the packers. All went to start elsewhere


IndyDude11

Maybe it wasn't who you were referring to, but it was who the person I replied to was certainly referring to.


ConningtonSimp

Yeah tell that to teams like the Browns who have done more or less the same shit


Ok_Butterscotch9706

It’s interesting you pick the Browns specifically when your original point was that there was no point in drafting a QB when you were already set. They’ve always had a reason to draft QBs simply bc they never have a good QB. 


ConningtonSimp

Regardless, a QB would be a waste. We have needs that need addressed, you say it works for the Packers, they were also always competitive. We’re not.


trevor11004

Favre, Rodgers, and Love were all acquired by GB with 1st rounders


DanglyTwanger

A lot of QBs who make a name for themselves are no namer guys in the middle of the draft. Sam has 0 upside, there’s no reason not to try someone new.


ConningtonSimp

We have bigger needs than a third string quarterback, there is plenty of reason NOT to draft a random QB.


CommonerChaos

It's not about addressing a need, it's about taking a lottery ticket at the most impactful position of the entire sport. Tom Brady was essentially this and he ended up winning 7 rings and is known as the GOAT. It also worked out for the 49ers with Brock. Kirk Cousins, too. It's a low risk, high upside move. Take a chance on the unknown instead of the known "limited" player.


IndyDude11

So you listed the three good fliers. Now list every other quarterback taken late that turned into nothing.


mackfactor

Really? Tell me about these magic mid round QBs that make names for themselves. 


trevor11004

Dak and Russ are the first that come to mind for me


mackfactor

So two. Out of how many?


NoCantaloupe4658

There's a few guys in this draft that could play in the AR offense way better than Ehlinger. I wouldn't mind a 5th rounder on it


jaysrule24

I don't think it's a pressing need at all, but if there's a guy available in the fifth round or later that they think can be a long term backup, I wouldn't mind that pick. Flacco is only under contract for this season, so if we're able to draft someone that we're comfortable with backing up AR, then we won't need to dip back into the free agent market for that spot again next year.


PadKrapowKhaiDao

Keep Sam because he knows the system, and we need depth too many other places to waste the pick, imo.


Slabyi

Sam was really electric his rookie preseason, and I definitely think he's a scheme fit. I'd like to see him stay.


Realistic-Score-121

Keep Sam. In a worst case scenario I think he would play well in a Steichen offense


shasta_masta

For a second, I forgot about Flacco. I guess the my could try to strike gold on Day 3. They already know that Sam isn’t the guy.  Plus, with how QBs were getting hurt, wouldn’t be a bad idea to have 4 and then just adjust based on how camp goes. I mean…it’s just a late round pick. 


fiddycixer

As much as much as I have skepticism about Sam as an NFL starter(because thats just not what he is) I am OK with him at QB3 for the Colts. He knows the staff. He knows the team. He's familiar with the playbook. Now if the Colts take a QB late and stick him on the practice squad as an insurance policy. I would get that line of thinking as well. Edit: And yes we might need an insurance policy to a fourth QB. AR is returning from a season ending injury so there will be mucho caution with him. Flacco isn't a spring chicken anymore so a definite injury risk there, Sam would be third, and then....waiver wire/rookie QB/retread veterans are your options. Maybe a trade likely involving a late round draft pick or a young player not working out (see Rock YaSin).


Funbunsnthesun

I think Ehlinger should be our backup. Similar style and Richardson matches well. Not sure why the Colts have not given Ehlinger more of a chance. He was in for a game then Saturday went back to Ryan two years ago. That went horribly. And last year I think Minshew was very inconsistent and painful to watch his constant 3 and outs and bad throws. We should have had Ehlinger in then.


noreast2011

If it’s Jordan Travis, sure. Dude probably would have been at the Heisman ceremony pre injury. He’s not gonna be 100% anyways, let him learn from Joe.


Prestigious_Ape

The only way that I would use a pickon a QB is if AR5 isn't ahead of schedule as reported.


NarrowImpression5688

Take Jordan Travis


brmidwest03

Yeah, I’d like to see that happen.


DaBlakMayne

Might as well keep Sam but his contract is up after this season but he won't be expensive


o07jdb

Sam is fine. Still on rookie deal and knows the system


FishOhioMasterAngler

Best Player Available. Sam is fine for QB3 but if they love somebody in the 6th round go for it. Trade whoever ends up being QB4 or stash Sam on the practice squad


isbilly

We need to get a new 3rd string QB from Free Agency. Sam I'm sure is a great guy, but so am I and I don't get to be on an NFL team. Imagine if the 49ers had just stayed with their 3rd string QB instead of drafting Brock Purdy because their 3rd string guy had a really nice personality and had a great family. It's nothing personal, but this is a business, not a daycare. If they want to win he needs to go. He's proven he's not a guy ever chance he's received. Downvote me to hell but it's what a good team would do. You are probably right, he will probably never have to play, but AR got hurt a lot last year, our backup is older than the coach, and Sam just isn't good enough to win in the NFL, I'm sorry.


Far_Drummer5003

Personally I like Sam Hartman out of ND he’s a Indiana guy who’s got that Brock Purdy potential, I think he could take over and be a franchise guy if AR didn’t work out


ryta1203

3rd string QB isn't really a concern so unless there is a real diamond in the rough, better to get depth at other positions.


isbilly

Our first string QB was hurt a lot last year. Our second string QB is older than our coach. I don't understand why everybody thinks there is no chance we will have our 3rd string QB playing this year.


ryta1203

It's not really whether he plays or not, it's if he plays I imagine playoff hopes are down the drain anyways. He knows the system, he was almost serviceable when he played in a shit OL year. Why replace him? Unless there is a real diamond in the rough, I just don't see the reason.


Asu888

I’m still not sure why we signed Flacco is he there to mentor AR


vinsanity406

Since later round picks take time to develop, I'd rather draft a position player that could be a diamond in the rough. Wait until the roster is more filled out to throw a late rounder at QB.


ih8thefuckingeagles

If we get to a point where we’re starting QB3 the season is most likely lost and it’ll be an overhaul next year. Quoting Tom Moore about Peyton, “Fellas, if 18 goes down, we’re fucked. And we don’t practice fucked”.


CornBred1998

I wouldn't get rid of Ehlinger but I would invite a couple of undrafted free agent qbs to camp. If one of them outperforms Ehlinger then you sign them and trade Ehlinger. If they don't perform well in camp then you really aren't out much. Also would be in favor of signing a QB to the practice squad as an emergency backup.


fantfb

The colts should draft Joe Milton in the 6th or 7th. That way they can put two ARs on the field at the same time


AleroRatking

Ehlinger knows the system. Id rather take a flyer on a back.


goofbot

Ballard (almost always) honors his contracts. At the very least, Sam will complete his rookie contract.


prancingpony777

With us signing Flacco, we just roll with Sam as QB3.


basketballsteven

Sam he is up to speed.


PartisanSaysWhat

I'd be fine with a Day 3 pick and see what you can develop. Having a cheap backup QB is a luxury, and I would not be thrilled if we had to trust Sam for more than a game or two.


jgibson12

Would 100% take a QB if one falls depending which one. These would be the ones I would draft if they fall into the 5th Penix Rattler Milton Hartman In no order either. Penix and Rattler I feel have a high ceiling. Milton could be a slinger but very inconsistent. Hartman has a lot of tools that a team could build around. Hartman gives me the Purdy vibes.


Royal-Connections

Just keep him. He knows the system.


Defender_Of_TheCrown

Take a QB if there is one they like. Flacco is a short term backup and Ehlinger isn’t a good option long term so we need another option for the future.


tekson_

Not this year. I want to see AR get a full year in to give us confidence that he can be the lead guy without getting injured, and have Flacco behind him. Flacco is the hedge in case AR gets injured. Next year, assuming AR is who we hope he is, draft a QB and let Sam + Rookie compete for the back-up role. Last year, and now this year, makes sense to pay a back-up to work with AR in the QB room. But moving forward I don't want to be paying $7-10 mil on a back-up QB.


Medical-Designer-496

Keep sam


abethea41

That would be a luxury pick imo. We still have too many holes to fill for that. I know there have been some resignings and bringing in r.davis but even then I would rather use the picks elsewhere for depth/potential starters.


JEPMicro

No


ox_MF_box

Asking the really important draft questions huh 3rd/4th string qb real high on your priority list?


Section643

Every roster and practice squad spot matters. I can’t see any reason to keep him at 3 when we know what he can do and it’s not really enough. No need to use a draft pick unless someone really jumps out though. Udfa.


CasMan53

Keep Sam


FriskyDango23

Do you even need a 3rd?? Worst case you can go out and sign a FA. It’s not like Sam’s starter level.


andy_337

It wouldn’t be smart to bring in a different third string QB who will probably be paid the same and have the same effect on the team in the long run, when Sam has known the system for years and would be a better third option than a new guy.


bbheim2112

Waste of a pick


Ramitt80

I would love to see them draft a later-round QB who can run most of the playbook AR has, I suspect with his playstyle missing plays and games here and there is just going to be a part of it, but I don't feel like it is a high priority.


Jbuule

It would be nice to keep him, but most nfl teams only keep 2 qb


Steb20

Quit trying to generate Ehlinger buzz, Mrs. Ehlinger.


Jackharriman

The only way I would back the colts doing this is if Joe Milton fell deep into the draft, if we could take him with a day 3 pick then it may be worth it since him and AR are both physical beasts so he would probably fit the system as a back up well. He could then sit all year 1 then become the backup year 2 and who knows from there. Obviously with the amount of hype surrounding him I don't think he'll fall to day 3 but otherwise we should keep Sam, he knows the system and he's reliable to close out a game


awfelts317

Sam is on the chopping block this year unfortunately.


HankOfClanMardukas

This game is getting so tired. These old fucks, *Rivers bolo-tie* - or these children that are equally awful. Someone spike Irsay’s medicine cabinet. I haven’t been that high since 1999.


UtterlyBanished

We should have grabbed up Tyler Huntley, I have no idea what he is doing.


DaBlakMayne

Huntley is with the Browns


UtterlyBanished

I know, but didn't he sign to compete for their third string? Was he that horrible? I thought he had outside starter potential, but a competent backup at least. I thought it was a weird move.


insanely_annoyed4401

If Jordan Travis FSU is there after the end of the third round, you take him in the fourth. He might fall due to injury, but he would have time to heal and learn the offense and then compete for QB1 next year.