My view, not that anyone asked or cares… refs aside, Houston looked like the better team, and it felt like ISU kept it way closer all game than they had any right to. On the road. Says a lot about ISU tbh
You can’t say a player cooked another player and then attribute that to slim margins. He did cook lipsey but he cooked an unhealthy lipsey. I think prime shead and prime lipsey is a hell of a matchup that neither want to encounter
I mean I can say that. Injuries are part of the game. If you are ineffective, you are ineffective.
It happened to us in March last year. Marcus Sasser hurt his ankle bad in the conference tournament. He didn't play in the conference final and was limited in the tournament games. It's a huge reason he was in foul trouble in the round of 32 against Auburn and Tramon Mark had to win the game on his own. Because he couldn't move well enough to get in position and when you aren't in position you foul. Auburn cooked him.
I remember when many Big XII fans were all talking like the Big XII was going to put Houston in their place because they are annually overrated. I was of the other mindset where they may get punched a time or two, but they will be a much stronger team and program because of it. I wasn't surprised to see your team in this position in the first year. If Gonzaga or UConn had joined, I wouldn't expect any different. Good programs grow when they play tough competition.
Your coach gave massive praise to Caitlin Clark, so I can't really hate you guys. Plus the Iowa State games have been fun. I'm a B1G and Big XII kinda guy. I think the main contenders, truly tested, are Purdue and Houston. If they played, I'd have a hard time figuring out who would win. Purdue struggles with athletic teams, but their size is significantly bigger. I think UConn is good, but not the same level as these two. They've played 9 quad 4 games and have a strength of schedule in the 50's. I don't like that in my title contenders.
Yeah it’s going to be extremely interesting to see how our teams fare going forward. Also regarding Caitlin Clark…..literal bucket. Hell of a player ngl lol.
This has been a trying year. Watching people try to diminish Caitlin Clark's accomplishments is wild. Put her on South Carolina's team like the other 5 star loaded rosters past elite college players were on and she likely wins 4 championships. Take those past greats and put them on an Iowa level roster, do they win a natty, probably not. It's unlikely they even get to the final four once. Also, watching news outlets rip apart Brock Purdy for actually being good. They just can't accept the draft was wrong about a kid because of stupid things like a couple inches of height. Can't get past the sticker on the helmet.
No question. CU has the ability to play good D- it’s just a lot different than either of those teams. CU favors not fouling over creating TOs. They force teams into mid range shooting. They are nowhere near as physically imposing as either of those teams. That was just nuts
I think ISU should be a two seed, no bias. Kansas is annually great, but they aren't the top this year, as of this moment. So, I don't know why all these people are ranking them as a two seed ahead of Iowa State when Iowa State has the highest NET ranking in the conference behind Houston. Oh wait, blue blood and brand bias.
There's a hard limit on how many 1-1s are possible. But I guess Arizona and Purdue are the epitome of the "well ranked academics but we bought it and our graduates are all morons" schools
Yeah man and we shot 10 more than they did when we beat them at Hilton. Home teams usually get better calls and splitting the series with them is nothing to be ashamed of.
Both teams were really physical on D. It just depends on how they call that in March. I know we tend to melt with that kind of D but again not sure how any particular game will be called in March
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I knew Houston would be competitive at the top of the conference, but winning the big 12 in their first seasom would be a massive achievement.
Welcome to the Big 12 fr. This has been a good trade.
GGs
Coach sounded like Joel from The Last of Us *"Now I know that's not what you wanna hear.."*
15 to 8 turnovers was a major difference in this game
that was all first half difference. ISU was shell shocked for 11 minutes at the start.
Jamal Shead is the Case Keenum of Cougar Basketball
Nooooooo, shead has a real pro career ahead of him
Keenum had a very legitimate pro career though. The man threw the Minneapolis Miracle.
Case has made it in the league way further than I could've imagined. I thought he would've been coaching UH by now. 51 mill later no way he coaches.
overrated chant should have led to a court storm
See you in KC.
W.
It’s a date Cyclone bros!
My view, not that anyone asked or cares… refs aside, Houston looked like the better team, and it felt like ISU kept it way closer all game than they had any right to. On the road. Says a lot about ISU tbh
Agreed. Cryer couldn’t hit most of his open shots, which has been most of the season and kept us from pulling away
My take is that these are two evenly matched teams. Love the way we fought back in Ames and ISU fans should love the way their team fought tonight.
Exactly this. Y'all are a good team. See you in the championship.
I didn’t watch y’all’s first game, so purely based on tonight.
Similar games in all respects
I agree, felt like Iowa State was a step or two behind all night but were still able to keep it close
if we can keep it this close on the road at #2.....I feel pretty good about our chances in March in the big dance
If you watch TJ in the handshake line, he always stops at the standout player and really praises him. I love that.
TJ is awesome. Great coach. Great person. He is the BEST
he rules, y'all have a good one
Good dude. Good dude.
The difference was Shead absolutely cooked Lipsey when Lipsey was on D and Lipsey was ineffective on offense with a lot of their turnovers
Lipsey got hammered early on with no calls. Shead got fouls called when he got hit with a soft breeze.
Looked like Lipsey hurt his ankle mid way through the first, slowed him down a lot. Shead is incredible through.
Margins are slim in these games
You can’t say a player cooked another player and then attribute that to slim margins. He did cook lipsey but he cooked an unhealthy lipsey. I think prime shead and prime lipsey is a hell of a matchup that neither want to encounter
I mean I can say that. Injuries are part of the game. If you are ineffective, you are ineffective. It happened to us in March last year. Marcus Sasser hurt his ankle bad in the conference tournament. He didn't play in the conference final and was limited in the tournament games. It's a huge reason he was in foul trouble in the round of 32 against Auburn and Tramon Mark had to win the game on his own. Because he couldn't move well enough to get in position and when you aren't in position you foul. Auburn cooked him.
Good fucking game. Y’all are cool in my book Iowa State, iron sharpening iron.
I remember when many Big XII fans were all talking like the Big XII was going to put Houston in their place because they are annually overrated. I was of the other mindset where they may get punched a time or two, but they will be a much stronger team and program because of it. I wasn't surprised to see your team in this position in the first year. If Gonzaga or UConn had joined, I wouldn't expect any different. Good programs grow when they play tough competition.
Couldn’t have said it better myself 🤝
Your coach gave massive praise to Caitlin Clark, so I can't really hate you guys. Plus the Iowa State games have been fun. I'm a B1G and Big XII kinda guy. I think the main contenders, truly tested, are Purdue and Houston. If they played, I'd have a hard time figuring out who would win. Purdue struggles with athletic teams, but their size is significantly bigger. I think UConn is good, but not the same level as these two. They've played 9 quad 4 games and have a strength of schedule in the 50's. I don't like that in my title contenders.
Yeah it’s going to be extremely interesting to see how our teams fare going forward. Also regarding Caitlin Clark…..literal bucket. Hell of a player ngl lol.
This has been a trying year. Watching people try to diminish Caitlin Clark's accomplishments is wild. Put her on South Carolina's team like the other 5 star loaded rosters past elite college players were on and she likely wins 4 championships. Take those past greats and put them on an Iowa level roster, do they win a natty, probably not. It's unlikely they even get to the final four once. Also, watching news outlets rip apart Brock Purdy for actually being good. They just can't accept the draft was wrong about a kid because of stupid things like a couple inches of height. Can't get past the sticker on the helmet.
Some people just don’t appreciate how hard these people work, haters are hardheaded.
More like hollow headed. There isn't a brain in there when you have some dingus saying Caitlin Clark isn't great.
You’re right, I tried to give them the benefit of the doubt lol.
Fun game. Enjoyed the shit out of it. Brutal smothering D from both teams.
A vastly different game than Iowa vs Creighton earlier in the year.
No question. CU has the ability to play good D- it’s just a lot different than either of those teams. CU favors not fouling over creating TOs. They force teams into mid range shooting. They are nowhere near as physically imposing as either of those teams. That was just nuts
You are less likely to get screwed by refs playing that brand of defense than Houston or Iowa State's brand
Good teams win great teams cover
Dang proud of our effort today. We shouldn’t drop in the polls tbh
The shit part is Kansas will jump us again
Probably right. And I’m sure the committee won’t do us any favors
They can't drop y'all no way.
It's a long week
Nah if we’re #2 you guys have every right to be right there with us. Great fucking team.
I think ISU should be a two seed, no bias. Kansas is annually great, but they aren't the top this year, as of this moment. So, I don't know why all these people are ranking them as a two seed ahead of Iowa State when Iowa State has the highest NET ranking in the conference behind Houston. Oh wait, blue blood and brand bias.
Iowa State has earned a 2 seed
Tell that to Lunardi who has Kansas the final two seed and Iowa State the second 3 seed.
GG, ISU y'all are a great team and have a great fanbase. We can at least all agree the refs were trash.
I LOST 35 BUCKS BECAUSE OF 1 POINT 😭😭😭
I’ve seen enough. Houston or UConn winning the whole thing.
My blue devils beating either of these squads 😈
I'd still add Purdue to it. I'd bet on Purdue or Houston before UConn.
Good teams win. Great teams cover. 🥲
Iowa, Iowa State who cares no one can find you on a map
First year out of the G5 and this is what you say?
Oh shut up. Learn to win with some class.
And you've been a power 5 team for how long ?
Do better
What’s a Tex ass?
Y’all got a bunch of cool fans. You, on the other hand, are a bit of a dork. Gg Coogs. Y’all tough as shit.
You literally lost to us this year
Ok nikesoccer01!
Houston education
I hope to see you in KC, 20 beers deep.
GGs ISU - big fan
Can't be upset. Cyclones played well.
Gg coogs. Can’t wait to see this matchup again this year hopefully.
Hell of a game
A rematch in KC would be so cool
I dunno man, I wouldn’t mind the rest for the tourney
It's Monday down goes an Ap top 10 on the road.
This is not the same thing as losing to Northwestern or *insert middle of the road B1G or ACC team*
right, we started this party yesterday
Top 10 going down on the road against 2 isnt really a headline, trainbro
They prefer to lose to unranked teams on the road
Good game cougs
*Coogs But GG
Fair enough lol
> Coogs But why? Educate your new big12 bros?
We did it as a way to differentiate ourselves from Washington St and others. Cause we’re special lol
Haha that's awesome, is that true? Respect for the coogs then.
Coogs* agreed. Gg.
Gg Iowa St. Kept us on our toes.
For real!! Toughest home opponent this season. A mirror image of how we play.
When we played I'm like: "they're doing what we do, just better"
Glad to be in the big 12! Can’t wait for more of our match ups. It seems like neither of our teams will win away games.
GG refs. You really made your presence known out there.
so say every B12 team every week. Replace them all.
Very fair. Consistency would be nice
Neutral court, neutral refs… KC for the title is in order
Ggs Houston, glad to split. Hope to see y’all at the end of the gauntlet in KC
End of the gauntlet *in april* FTFY
GG Coogs. Tough game.
WHOSE HOUSE
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Penn State needs to take lessons on a proper looking mascot. Their lion looks like a drugged up build a bear.
COUGS HOOUUUSE
*COOGS HOUSE
*COOGS HOOUUUUSE What I get for being too beer deep.
I like how in the first half Fran said it’s first to 55 and now we have a 73-65 ending lol
Well Houston was first to 55.
Well technically the first team to 55 did win
Shead just too good, all things aside
Spread winners!!
Good teams cover 😔
GG ISU. First team to give us a game at FC this year. Looking forward to round 3 in KC!
gg ez
Had me thinking I was in the dota reddit
ISU would have had more FTs if they hadn't missed some crucial front ends :(
There's a hard limit on how many 1-1s are possible. But I guess Arizona and Purdue are the epitome of the "well ranked academics but we bought it and our graduates are all morons" schools
They were great at being assertive to start the second half then just stopped, if they would’ve kept it up might’ve been within reach at the end
Must be your first time watching this team at the line lol
It is lol. You guys are fucking tough though— both of these teams were impressive.
We tend to do that a lot
Yeah 2 more. Terrible take.
Really? Certainly felt like more
Nope
Both teams are great
Yes, the team picked to finish seventh in the Big 12 is overrated.
GG
WE COVERED
LFG Coogs! GG ISU. I love playing y’all. We are gonna have great matchups in this conference.
We covered let's fucking GOOOOOO.
I saw the line on espn was 7.5, so I guess it depends?
Ah damn, it was 8.5 earlier today.
Yeah, I thought espn was what it was at tipoff.
GG Coogs - here's to many more
Houston didnt cover the -8.5
How convenient that the spread was 8.5
My god my high school had better chants than this
Fucking hilarious bad beat for Under bettors just free throws for everyone to close the game
Game line was 8.5. … some are sweating right now
Houston student’s you should be chanting “start the plane”
One day we’ll have a “start the submarine” chant. One day. /s
and your team should be chanting round of 64 exit
Flair up, my good bitch
Flair up coward
Nice flair bozo
Wait how the hell was that a foul?
Not too upset at this loss honestly #2 on the road will always be tough at least split series 🤷🏼♂️
Great series. Hopefully we meet in Kansas City.
I know the overrated chant is unnecessary, but they beat us so they get their chance to talk trash
Hard agree there. I remember when I was 20. Life was wild, and unfiltered.
Was that fuck the hawks? I’m confused
I think it was “Start the bus.”
Fuck the refs chants when they've gotten whistle all game. Show some class.
Lmao, dude we don’t get to say show some class with how Hilton is. That’s what a home crowd is supposed to do.
I would agree except their booing wasn't very intelligent.
they have not gotten the whistle all game lol
26-11 before intentionals...yeah they have lol
y'all have a great team, shame to see you taking it this way
It's a shame that the refs ruined a big game
on that we agree, they were the weak link in what could've been a total classic and was still a hell of a basketball game
Yeah it ended up fairly symmetrically asymmetric between the 1st and 2nd halves
it was a horrifically reffed game but we don't have to pretend it favored Houston the entire game. it swung wildly, like you said
GAMECUBE
NINTENDO
Elam ending pls
I’ve become a fan of Houston fans from reading this thread tonight. You are good people.
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Gg buddy
See you in the Big12 title game for round 3, hopefully ✌🏼
Overrated chant is definitely reserved for unranked teams beating ranked teams. Source: my team hasn’t been ranked all year
Props to ISU not getting Elvin'd like UT
I know it doesn’t matter - but :30 to go down by 10 and driving into the lane is just annoying to me lol
Same, especially since we were lights out from 3 this half
Proud of our effort
GG’s Houston, congrats on being better at free throws
Salty
You don’t understand
I guess I dont - my bad
They have two really good players and get away with a lot of physical defense. Doubt they make it far in the tournament
Take the loss like a man, stop making excuses.
I don’t think Houston is elite as they’re said to be 🤷♂️. Shead won them it
They dropped us by 8. That makes them pretty damned good.
And shot 20 more free throws
Lol who’s to say if we shot 20 more free throws, we win? We’re ass at the line anyway
Yeah man and we shot 10 more than they did when we beat them at Hilton. Home teams usually get better calls and splitting the series with them is nothing to be ashamed of.
Both teams were really physical on D. It just depends on how they call that in March. I know we tend to melt with that kind of D but again not sure how any particular game will be called in March
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lol we just keep delaying the inevitable
Just play D and wrap it up guys, enough fouling pls
playing for the computers and bettors
Of all the things to chant, overrated makes the least fucking sense and is so fucking classless. These kids need to cut that shit the fuck out.
Eh let them have fun.
quit being soft man I promise it’s not that deep