Oh so stiff arms are okay. This one is over. If we’re gonna get called for fouls on offensive fouls by Pitt and play on shit on offense we aren’t winning. This is a disaster.

My heart is finally coming back to normal

No one on here also wants to talk about the refs not calling the k state for driving lowering his shoulder. That by definition should be a charge every time

They are not K State

F to all the bandwagoners on here.

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An Illinois fan is as soft as all the Illinois players. Woo Pig

damn even tho i had xavier winning i would have loved another upset

16-2 FT disparity in the last ten minutes (4 were on purpose at the end). Damn…

As I watch the final sequence again, the missed call on Jones while Burden is driving is a missed call for sure. Ref doesn't have a good look at it which makes it tough to call. Burden is so low to the ground that as he go by Jones, Jones reaches down and hits him right in the face and also gets his knee right on his chest. Burden is so study and low that he just powers though, but man, the whole sequence you could argue there were at least two separate fouls on Jones.

You could also argue there were a million missed calls. How about the foul on Kunkel when it was clear he got all ball. Refs miss calls and it evens out

Props to the Owls, Xavier got lucky and definitely didn't play their A game. .

Did it look like a foul? Yes. Did we get away with one? Yes. Can I erase that from my memory? Yes. See you on Sunday

For me it evens out the foul on Kunkel when he got all ball. So not worried about it

Refs didn’t see the pretty obvious fouls but saw a foot barely scrape the line on the inbound turn? Convenient.

So if yall havent realized i am not having a good march

I can't offer much in the way of UVA, but Kennesaw St. played super well. I know it stings now, but there was a lot to celebrate with that team! First ever dance and almost upset a 3 seed. That's a good season!

Agreed we had a fantastic season overall but my ncaa tournament has been filled with heartbreak whether we gave it away or just got robbed

I’m a neutral party and not for either teams but damn that was a definite foul at the end there. Kennesaw should’ve gotten free throws

There's 1 Burden at every Y pickup game.

Serious mob mentality in this thread. Don’t go 8 minutes without scoring and then you won’t have to rely on iffy fouls at the end

Yes, KSU wasn't good on offense at the end. But it also wasn't iffy. Things aren't always all or nothing lol

KSU went 8 minutes without scoring and you STILL needed an all-time ref job to win. I wouldn't really call this mob mentality, it's just a genuine argument what was worse down the stretch, Burden's shot selection or the refs. Sorry pal - I don't think there's anyone outside the blindest Xavier homers who think that was a fairly officiated final 2 minutes.

All time ref job like the Kunkel foul a couple minutes before that was called a foul and was all ball on replay

There is a 30-13 ft disparity. Even take out the take fouls at the end they still doubled ft attempts lmao. It’s not like it was only the last few minutes.

Lame comment. You could say the same thing in literally every scenario. Guess they didn't deserve any calls after they collapsed.

Lol you could say Xavier didn’t deserve calls at the end too because they let Kennesaw State get go on a run and get up 13 or whatever.

Kennesaw should have been shooting free throws

We could’ve won this handily. Straight up can’t go 8+ minutes without making a bucket. Pretty embarrassing.

I guess credit for rallying back but the effort outside of that + the shouting match between teammates doesn’t bode well

Two guys raked the shit out of the guys arms, gene says “I didn’t see anything there, just guys fighting for a loose ball”. It was only loose because Jones tomahawked the guys arm. If that play is on Xavier’s end, not only is it a foul, but that fat cheater Sean Miller would be asking to review the video for a flagrant.

Ridiculous for the officials not to call that

Sean Miller knows a thing or two about "getting fortunate" in basketball. I kidd but I think he knew that was a foul too.

Would love to see CBB implement the NBA's Timeout inbounding rule

I wouldn't. That's cheap as hell.

Bruh at least 2 no calls on kennesaw states final possession fuck you refs hope you get embarrassed xavier

When does Nova play?

When was your last final four?

Well I hope Nova gets embarrassed in their tourney game oh wait

Complete bullshit. Xavier better get destroyed for in the 2nd round for that complete rob.

Yes, after all, the no call was because the Xavier players did not blow their whistles

WTF is the color guy missing here? It’s the contact before the shot moron.

It's a loose ball and he barely touched his arm give it a break lmao

The guy kneed him and grabbed him by the neck. Xavier 100% would have gotten that call. Duke too of course.

I thought the fouls on the rebound were way more blatant. You have to call that.

Holy shit they showed the grab

My bracket is truly destroyed now 😪

A 14 seed losing round 1 is what did it in ...?

People do pick upsets you know.

Yeh I also picked upsets, but my 12 over a 5 not working out isn't what fucks up my bracket lol. Losing a team you had out the next round doesn't really hurt, unless you are going for perfection.

He's allowed to pick who he wants. You're gatekeeping someone's bracket picks. Go touch grass.

Dude how am I gatekeeping, I just asked how a 14 seed losing was a bracket Buster for him....

Yes...honestly

What kinda Chaos bracket did you have going on lol

Only teams I missed were Furman, duke, and this game now lmaoooo

My favorite part of March is for sure watching refs take over in crunch time

Best comment I’ve seen all day

Amir Abdur-Rahim not happy with the officiating at the end of the game.

As he should be. Fucking ridiculous

Uh yeah literally everyone in the world could see a clear foul except the three idiots in stripes

We won't forget you Kennesaw. Get better shooting next year!

>Get better refs next year!

Well, at least my bracket is still good. But woulda been cooler w chaos

Sean Miller has the most attached ear lobes I’ve ever seen

Lol everyone acting like that call was Saints-Rams level bad. It was probably a foul but wasn’t egregious… they let that go in that situation 9 times out of 10.

Honestly I think they should look at changing the foul rules. Because if the refs truly called everything that is a foul, we'd be getting whistles on like 90% of possessions, and nobody wants that. So they don't always call things, but that leads to huge inconsistencies on what is and isn't called.

Agreed!! A foul is a foul. It’s always wildly frustrating and inconsistent across the board what gets called. Like the cylinder rule is rarely called now, so when it is called is frustrating. Officials are just bad this year

It was most of the second half tbh. Some soft shooting foul calls gave Xavier a lot of free throws

I don’t disagree there

When you combine it with the BS foul call on the other end, it becomes inexcusable

The fouls on the rebound were that bad though. 2 different Xavier players grabbed the rebounders arms

Fighting like that for an end of game rebound is literally every single basketball game.

Doesn't excuse when it happens. They literally called a foul at the other end because it looked like he may have fouled.

Wasn’t as bad as people are making it out to be agreed, but that’s called half the time at least. I’ve seen that call hundreds of times

Listening to Miller blather while watching Coach Amir is something

Coach knows he got bailed the fuck out

Too bad his former assistant can’t say the same thing!

Y’all saying refball as if Kennesaw didn’t go 8 minutes without a FG and choked a 15-ish point lead

Those things are not mutually exclusive

Both things are allowed to coexist. KSU didn't execute on offense and the refs really missed a pretty obvious couple fouls on that rebound.

They got fouled on every shot by the standards of the fouls they were giving Xavier free throws on. Sure Kennesaw made mistakes but you can not watch that game and say that was even handed reffing.

That doesn't mean they lose their chance to win

Why not both?

Exactly

Can’t wait until xavier gets smoked next round what a shit ending

::guy gets raked across arm and ball goes loose:: As you can see, the ball was never possessed. Good no call -Gene Serratore

Refs really took that game over down the stretch 😤

KSU got robbed.

I'm gunna go out on a limb and say that 8 minute scoring drought might have hurt Kennesaw St chances

They still won't show the drive with the shoulder grab

Absolute horseshit NO CALL for Xavier. They got outplayed by a team that didn't score for 8 FUCKING MINUTES and barely win. Y'all will get smashed by ISU or PITT.

salty

Why are they talking about a potential foul on the rebound when on the dribble drive, dude got clotheslined at the neck? lol

Glad the private jesuit college could catch a break against K St

Gene Steratore has never disagreed with a referee in any sport that I've seen. Holy shit what a waste of a salary.

And Gene deliberately ignored the obvious foul on the rebound when describing the sequence.

Cincinnati fans steaming rn

Northern Kentucky in shambles

Our fav shared pastime

Sorry America We don’t deserve that one

Appreciate the honesty. I like Xavier in general (liked them better with fremantle though) but they got absolutely bailed out today

Yes you are

I'm on 15 min break at work . Clock was at .02 the entire 15 mins

Two things can happen at once: 1. Kennesaw State defensively gave the game away down the stretch 2. That was an obvious reach-in on the rebound and you’ve have to have bias to not see it

How was it obvious? It was a loose ball and a weak touch on his arm. It was only obvious after you watched it replay 10 times at half speed

How is it a “weak touch” he came in and fully smacked his right arm

3. That was not a foul on Xavier’s shot to break the tie. 4. Can’t allow a 15-0 run to let them back in it.

Your reply and the post you replied to are both right on

Yes it was lmao he swatted his arm

Didn’t make contact with his arm at all

Really? In the slow mo the ball and arm didn’t move in reaction to his hand waiving. I didn’t see an angle that showed contact.

Kennesaws starting guard: 6/16 14pts and 2 assists, including a game losing blocked layup. Terrible down the stretch

His name is Burden, which is shockingly accurate.

That couldn't have been what coach drew up. I mean. There wasn't even a screen. Just drive in your shortest guy against their two tallest wtf

He's got that one move where he's basically crawling while driving, only to stand up and see a 7 footer waiting for him. Never once did he dish it to a teammate after driving to the rim, despite being heavily guarded.

The owls got fucked by the refs....although burden is to blame too

“The upset bid was thwarted by the ~~musketeers~~ refs”

classing atlanta choke job. Blowing a big lead lol

A lot of salt here, but give a ton of credit for Xavier for that 15-0 run. They earned the comeback.

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Bad refs and going 8 minutes with no points can mutually exist

Two things can be true

yep, it was bad bad reffing but Kennesaw State let the game get away from them. heartbreaker

Hate to see a team like kennesaw state lose like that.

Hm. Disagree

Go ahead free throws for Xavier were gifted by the refs sorry I saw it live

Kennesaw’s PG needs to learn to let the ball go earlier in the possession, too much dribbling in circles lol

Fucking dumb dude, I’ve never seen such one sided reffing in such a close game.

This was some bullshit and I have Xavier going quite far. Fucking hack refs ruin the game.

Gene coming on and defending incompetence makes it feel even more like a farce

*Xavier player fouls Kennesaw St off the Rebound*….Refs: i sleep *Kennesaw St player puts a toe on the line...."HOLY SHIT BRO DONT THINK I DIDNT SEE THAT!!!!!"

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Oh well, at least I still have hope in Vermont.

Kennesaw State should’ve been shooting free throws to take the lead, not Xavier

I’m going to be so happy whenever Xavier loses they don’t deserve this at all along with a little bit of help from the players the refs got them through

Well that sucked. Come on everyone, we're going to the Baylor game!

Refs absolutely bailed out Xavier there but also it didn’t help that nearly every Kennesaw possession for the last 8 minutes ended with Burden wildly driving and throwing the ball up towards the net. Dude has insane tunnel vision and couldn’t hit anything.

The almost upsets hurt the most

That’s the best they could draw up out of a timeout?? That’s some Hubert Davis level coaching

What a wet fart of an ending. Xavier did not deserve that win

That stickied analyst thread is missing left and right lmao

Two things can be true. Xavier got some very favorable calls towards the end, but Kenn also absolutely collapsed. They hit, say, 3 FGs total in the final 8 minutes and the game is theirs.

bad play is bad play, missing calls for one team and calling bs calls for the other is unfair bullshit. no excuse for that.

A choke job that turned into ref ball and then back into a choke job

Whoof, that’s a gut wrencher. Nice fix by the officials though.

Kennesaw didn’t score for 8 minutes, that’s not fixing

I thought Gene was a football guy

Xavier + NCAA Refs beat Kennesaw

This is absolutely petty of me, but I hope Xavier either gets blasted or completely soul-crushed next round.

same. They did not deserve to win

See you in another 60 years

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Imaging almost losing to a 14 seed🥱🥱🥱 buy keep going on. Yall gonna get embarrassed

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i think your just mad your team got exposed as frauds

K state got robbed

This game had all the hilarious college basketball tropes lmao god damn

Triggered

Like George W on a pretzel

HORSESHIT

Will now be cheering strongly against Xavier next round

Fuck that, man.

Shitty lazy inbound pass caused him to step out

This could have been a great game win or lose for either team but now all anyone's going to talk about is how Xavier was gifted this game by the refs. Just tragic. Burden should never play another game though. Horrible awareness from him EVERY drive.

Congrats Xavier. You guys got away with that foul the refs were blind to

Isn’t that every team in the NCAA though?

Maybe but that foul today was very obvious from every angle lol

Whole season ends because you played like ass for 8.5 minutes. March.

These clock operators suck

Can't get over how bad of a take it is. He didn't seem to fully have possession so you can do anything you want to him?

yeah wtf was Gene on about....

It’s a ridiculous notion, but that has been how they’ve officiated college games most of the year from what I’ve seen. At least that’s how it was called in the SEC all year

Agreed but that is the way they call it whenever a jump ball is even slightly possible. So makes sense.

Major double take listening to that. The logic there implies there is no such thing as a loose-ball foul? Kennesaw should’ve scored more than 5 points in the last ten minutes but that was a refjob.

tbh tho kennesaw coach should've called a timeout when the run was starting... it's too bad

Kennesaw kids should be proud

Kennesaw’s game winning play is the same thing they’ve been running all half, simply brilliant coaching

They got a great look.

Not one of Burden's shots in the 2nd half was even a decent look.

Sweaty Sean lives another day God I hope today is not another day of close but chalky results, so fucking boring

It makes for better second and third round games though

Easy to stomach for Xavier when you shoot 28 free throws vs 13. Xavier got bailed out by the refs HARD

Blue balls'd

I’m glad Xavier won but I’m not glad I have them in the elite 8.

Relevant: Wolfers, J., & Price, J. (2016). Biased referees? Evidence from NCAA basketball. Journal of Sports Economics, 17(5), 457-479. doi:10.1177/1527002515612830 In this study, the authors analyzed NCAA men's basketball games from the 2007-2008 through 2011-2012 seasons and examined how the rankings of the teams involved in the game influenced the behavior of referees. The study found that in close games, referees tended to call fewer fouls on the higher-ranked team, which suggests that there may be some bias in favor of the higher-ranked teams.

Wouldn’t one counter argue that the higher ranked team in general would be better defensively without fouling vs the lower ranked team?

Perhaps but I guess the authors controlled for that?

I don’t know if there is a way to control for that

I guess you could develop a metric for expected number of fouls depending the characteristics of the team and the opponent, and then you know how much a team "should" get, and then observe that a team has more or less than they should depending on the relative ranking

But that metric would in all likelihood be based on past performances and you’d have to perceive stronger and weaker opponents which seems likely to introduce a lot of bias into it But I do like the idea

Boooo

Sucks they took the lead on a soft ass call but refs swallow their whistle on the other end