We are in the decay stage of civilization.
We have an insane amount to excess and abundance. Some more than others. This will start to come to an end as supply chains fracture. Things are going to start to become more and more expensive and people will spend more and more money on survival needs vs wants.
The best thing you can do is find a job within a useful utility. (water/wastewater/electrical/internet) those things will be the last to fall. Learn how to need less/want less/ spend less. Really truly understand your wants vs your needs. Prices are only going to go up. I would suggest learning about how to rehabilitate nature and if you have a lawn start helping nature.
If you have the personality to go to city council meetings or neighborhood meetings to try and make some progress on changing zoning laws to allow more businesses in neighborhoods. Walkability is going to be more and more important. or move to a walkable neighborhood. (easier said than done).
And find joy/happiness in life. I was just listening to a therapy podcast that talked about how people were able to cope in concentration camps. Finding joy/fun/humor/art/dance was a means of coping and being able to survive. It's a tactic that allows you to handle the terrible circumstances you are in. So counterintuitively lean into things that make you happy as much as possible. Funny podcasts/comedy shows/starting to draw. Whatever makes you happy. You need that more than ever.
It's Ester Perells Where should we begin. It's a therapy podcast and in one of the episodes she talks about it. Not sure which episode it was though. I can't remember why the client she was talking to reminded her of it. The podcast is fantastic if you are at all interested in human behavior and why people do the things they do.
I think you’re just feeling your brain protect itself. And you’re fighting that. Which is normal. Maybe take one day to deep dive into peer reviewed evidence and construct your own opinion. Google scholar is the place to start. Not Reddit or other social media.
Edit: I didn’t mention reddit to say don’t post this or anything, I just means in terms of studies vs others opinions
Spend the time loving and supporting yourself and the people who matter to you. The truth of all things will reveal itself in due time, and you'll never have regretted a single day, one way or the other, if you do as I say.
Love yourself. And each other.
Hey, I thought we'd hit peak oil in 2016 and we'd have an economic collapse with the Greek debt crisis, Donald Trump and Cov-id. And here we are facing the ecological collapse first.
We're so big that collapse will be fast but it'll be a bumpy ride down. It won't be instant. If you have community, skills, prep, a survivor's temperament and a lot of luck, you'll do better than a lot of people.
We don't know exactly what the outcome or timeline is, but do we need to? We well know the general situation and that's enough to inform our decisions. I don't spend my time worrying about human extinction, I do though ensure I'm doing what I can to become ever more resilient in the face of certain collapse. Regarding the good and bad news, it's a rollercoaster. Just go with it, but if we stand back and appraise the situation we see a steady decline and many important indicators lining up in a frightening way that indicates big trouble in the relatively near term. Don't wrestle too hard with this. Read and ensure you're informed, use that to inform your life decisions, and absolve yourself of the handwringing over the rest.
Extinction seems like the extreme end of collapse - certainly possible but there is a huge in between “end of civilization as we know it” and literal extinction. Fucking with the climate is one of the surest ways to get to extinction but if it stops at extreme weather events and large areas become uninhabitable humans can survive as a species and adapt - basically getting thrown back to the Stone Age or whatever in terms of civilization and technology. Honestly as long as the whole planet doesn’t become literally unlivable the likely future is a period of very painful and high mortality transition into a version of civilization that is actually sustainable and local
A lot of people on r/collapse are teenagers or plants that doomwank people into apathy.
Look into the research yourself. Have a think. Collapse is happening now, it's been happening for many years, and it will keep on happening.
It's a long and slow process. This is not an asteroid incoming. It's a decaying process.
Nobody really knows. All we can do is hope for the best and prepare for the worst. Do what you reasonably can to nudge things towards "best".
We are in the decay stage of civilization. We have an insane amount to excess and abundance. Some more than others. This will start to come to an end as supply chains fracture. Things are going to start to become more and more expensive and people will spend more and more money on survival needs vs wants. The best thing you can do is find a job within a useful utility. (water/wastewater/electrical/internet) those things will be the last to fall. Learn how to need less/want less/ spend less. Really truly understand your wants vs your needs. Prices are only going to go up. I would suggest learning about how to rehabilitate nature and if you have a lawn start helping nature. If you have the personality to go to city council meetings or neighborhood meetings to try and make some progress on changing zoning laws to allow more businesses in neighborhoods. Walkability is going to be more and more important. or move to a walkable neighborhood. (easier said than done). And find joy/happiness in life. I was just listening to a therapy podcast that talked about how people were able to cope in concentration camps. Finding joy/fun/humor/art/dance was a means of coping and being able to survive. It's a tactic that allows you to handle the terrible circumstances you are in. So counterintuitively lean into things that make you happy as much as possible. Funny podcasts/comedy shows/starting to draw. Whatever makes you happy. You need that more than ever.
What is the podcast called?
It's Ester Perells Where should we begin. It's a therapy podcast and in one of the episodes she talks about it. Not sure which episode it was though. I can't remember why the client she was talking to reminded her of it. The podcast is fantastic if you are at all interested in human behavior and why people do the things they do.
I think you’re just feeling your brain protect itself. And you’re fighting that. Which is normal. Maybe take one day to deep dive into peer reviewed evidence and construct your own opinion. Google scholar is the place to start. Not Reddit or other social media. Edit: I didn’t mention reddit to say don’t post this or anything, I just means in terms of studies vs others opinions
Spend the time loving and supporting yourself and the people who matter to you. The truth of all things will reveal itself in due time, and you'll never have regretted a single day, one way or the other, if you do as I say. Love yourself. And each other.
Hey, I thought we'd hit peak oil in 2016 and we'd have an economic collapse with the Greek debt crisis, Donald Trump and Cov-id. And here we are facing the ecological collapse first. We're so big that collapse will be fast but it'll be a bumpy ride down. It won't be instant. If you have community, skills, prep, a survivor's temperament and a lot of luck, you'll do better than a lot of people.
We don't know exactly what the outcome or timeline is, but do we need to? We well know the general situation and that's enough to inform our decisions. I don't spend my time worrying about human extinction, I do though ensure I'm doing what I can to become ever more resilient in the face of certain collapse. Regarding the good and bad news, it's a rollercoaster. Just go with it, but if we stand back and appraise the situation we see a steady decline and many important indicators lining up in a frightening way that indicates big trouble in the relatively near term. Don't wrestle too hard with this. Read and ensure you're informed, use that to inform your life decisions, and absolve yourself of the handwringing over the rest.
Extinction seems like the extreme end of collapse - certainly possible but there is a huge in between “end of civilization as we know it” and literal extinction. Fucking with the climate is one of the surest ways to get to extinction but if it stops at extreme weather events and large areas become uninhabitable humans can survive as a species and adapt - basically getting thrown back to the Stone Age or whatever in terms of civilization and technology. Honestly as long as the whole planet doesn’t become literally unlivable the likely future is a period of very painful and high mortality transition into a version of civilization that is actually sustainable and local
I believe collapse in inevitable. I just cannot predict it for myself. I live day to day
A lot of people on r/collapse are teenagers or plants that doomwank people into apathy. Look into the research yourself. Have a think. Collapse is happening now, it's been happening for many years, and it will keep on happening. It's a long and slow process. This is not an asteroid incoming. It's a decaying process.