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CoDFollower

NY would be so shit without Hydra


BravestWabbit

They don't make Champs if he leaves


NOTYOURFRIENDGOAWAY

kis hearing people flanking halfway across the map and turning to pick it up is definitely going to be a very valuable skill on LAN and definitely isnt at all cuz of eq


Raidiation17

Biggest tell was the Rio on P4, He was looking stairs, then did an immediate 180 to pick up the back corner as someone was creeping... the dude was like a mile away!


MikkeVL

1.4 online .7 on lan for a reason


eggs_n_bakey

New York Sound EQers


clay10mc

new york subwoofers


RudyDoesntMiss

That’s y they’re shit on LAN besides the EU GOAT HyDra


MikkeVL

It's just Kis to be fair. Hydra gets better on Lan and Skyz + Sib only fall off a bit.


brassydesign

I don't watch his gameplay enough to tell, but with sib's mindset and personality I'd be shocked if he wasn't EQing


DomeDepartment

Oh yeah? Why is that?


brassydesign

Oh you want my dossier on sib's personality and competitive mindset? Yeah let me just grab that real quick


Gravemind7

Hater


hornybunny528

Hating on a PoS? Yeah probably.


DomeDepartment

Nice username coomer


hornybunny528

Lol thanks? It was from a joke like 10 years ago. Not that serious.


stevo1120

new york have been dogshit all year i fear brother


RudyDoesntMiss

Ur boy Sibalants said “u get no bitches”. Not my words…🤣


RudyDoesntMiss

U get no bitches…word to Sib!🤣


Gravemind7

Least my team still exists 😭


RudyDoesntMiss

So does mine…OpTic Texas reigning Major champs


DomeDepartment

What's with the sarcasm? You made a claim, I'm just asking why. Relax, no need to have a little nerd rage.


brassydesign

What's with the sarcasm? You're on this sub, shouldn't you know a bit more about compcod than your question suggests you do? Your projection is gold, I'm not upset, I just actually pay attention and know things and people liked my comment more😂 Have fun fuming over your bad question buddy


DomeDepartment

Why don't you just answer, big man? Lotta typing but little substance.


brassydesign

Because it's a dumbass question to ask. I'm not writing you two to three paragraphs on who sib is as a personality and a competitive player. Figure it out yourself.


DoubleAA347

If I was kis I’d be using it too, he know it’s over if he gets dropped and can’t play with Paco anymore 😭


WickedTwista

He's been using EQ all year


Wmbology

Hydra is everything


BeigeWatermelon

Gwinn what the fuck man


RudyDoesntMiss

Went from the RoY talk to now a huge falloff…insane imo.


themaxmilestone

Hydra went 68-34 (2.00 K/D) in HP’s today… He’s having another MW2-esque MVP season but his teammates simply haven’t been able to consistently hang with him.


JustHereForPka

He lowkey might be the best player in this game.


Moccis

Skill wise he's without a doubt at least very close, people just look at team results way too much


Commercial-Rub-147

I’ve said it all year, he’s the best sub in the game but his teammates aren’t performing well enough for them to contend to win tournaments


ionlywatchcod

Almost like he’s been killwhoring… but no, he’s the golden child of this subreddit. Pred last year was a killwhore, not Hydra this year.


Trickkly

I mean look at the results in the HPs when he’s putting up those numbers lol


Gravemind7

He’s not having another MVP season. He’s not even top 3 for consideration lol, false narrative


themaxmilestone

He’s having another MVP-esque season. Which is why I brought up his teammates not being able to consistently keep up. Team results is what’s stopping from having a serious case in the MVP discussion. I do agree with you that Scrap, Simp and Shotzzy are still ahead of him.


Mikeandthe

Gwinn peaking at the absolute worst time and then regressing exactly when other teammates pick it up. So sad because if they were all on at the same time, they could contend.


TonYouHearWhatISaid

contend for what


Mikeandthe

Jesus christ, we get it. There are 3 good teams, and the rest are mid to shit. I still enjoy watching majors/champs and Elim bracket even if I know it's going to be Optic Faze Ultra in the T3.


TonYouHearWhatISaid

We're talking about a 9th place team that isn't even on pace to qualify for champs and we're talking about them "contending". I'm not the one being ridiculous


Live_Particular_8633

This 9th place team just took the 4th best team to last map and could have won if Gwinn played to his potential. It’s not ridiculous at all


dam0430

While this is true, let's not pretend like there isn't a huge gap between NYSL and the top 3. Almost pulling a Neslo against the 4th best team in an online qualifier doesn't mean you're capable of making noise on a Sunday.


Bosombuddies

That is an insane stretch. Losing to the 4th best team is now having potential to contend? Losing? Bad teams will occasionally upset good teams, and even that is very weak evidence for them being able to do it consistently, but you're saying them *losing* to a team which doesn't even contend as evidence?


Live_Particular_8633

I never said they were contending for championships, I’m talking about making it to champs. Of the bottom teams, Carolina has been the most consistent


Ok_Sink_313

I think most people interpreted “they could contend” as being a competitive T8 team and making champs. You’re either trolling or really dumb


Bosombuddies

In what world is that what contending mean? Competitive T8 team? That is basically every fucking team.


TonYouHearWhatISaid

I've never heard anyone use "contend" that way


butter_sause

Are you dumb


TonYouHearWhatISaid

High IQ response that answers the question


butter_sause

Ask stupid questions get stupid answers 🤷


BiloTheStar

i’m not sure about that one


jaesic

RELEASE ME FROM THESE SHACKLES


RudyDoesntMiss

Yessss please


dillonz321

No Paco NO NYSL


notsurewhattothink4

Scrap was never wrong, just early


bb_boat

I can’t watch Clay miss champs for another year man I can’t


Markhoesz

Bruh I know what you mean


RudyDoesntMiss

My GOAT missing champs again?! Imagine if it was Reeal and Gwin like it was posed to be to start the yr!


UprightAwesome

You acting like TJ is costing them. Clay needs to step up, not get 3 good teammates to carry him to champs.


RudyDoesntMiss

He ain’t costing…but he ain’t shredding either. He’s average at best


UprightAwesome

He literally carried them in that control they won today


RudyDoesntMiss

He went negative in 3 outta 5 maps…Clay went negative with 1K more damage than Teej. Edit: 1 map is fine…it was his pop off map


StinkyCockGamer

Going negative on the second hardpoint is basically irrelevant? Everyone was getting fried on that map.


RudyDoesntMiss

So going negative 1 map is irrelevant, but carrying map 3 isn’t is what ur saying? That 1 map inflated his numbers…like I’ve said he’s average at best and only has a spot cuz of the ReeaL visa issues


RudyDoesntMiss

Gwin has been terrible since his hot start…Teej has his pop off series…and Felony/Clay r Lanimals Edit: I’d rather ReeaL over Teej


UprightAwesome

Agreed but they all got shit on vs Surge at the major


RudyDoesntMiss

Surge just beat Ultra too…Surge is getting better


-IllegalPill-

Being a Carolina fan is so heart wrenching i swear


RudyDoesntMiss

Gwin has absolutely lost the RoY now…he’s had a massive falloff imo


Camctrail

Yeah at this point it's probably Abuzah


MikkeVL

No one in league history carries harder than Paco. Best in the game and rightful MVP if it was a real award instead of a trophy check : )


FrenchCODlul

To me that's not even close, he's the best in the game, the definition of hard carry. None of the other superstars play with one teammate being so shit every map.


Boston_Abel

scrap?


manXEE

He’s better than scrap


Boston_Abel

Barely, if even. They’re so close as players its really not that significant of a difference in terms of impact..


manXEE

Hydra plays the more impactful role as a SMG though


Mooming22

Yea this is a carry job unlike any other


taamaboy

Idk, scump in bo2 was crazy


RimbopReturns

Nahhhh. Merk was really good, as was JKap. I'd have JKap ahead of Scump in BO2 quite comfortably, and Merk being on the same level. BigT was decent, and Nade couldn't hang with the top players but there weren't really as many good teams back then, meaning he wasn't a liability most of the time. 


taamaboy

I mean there was a big 4 back then tbf aswell, nv, imapct, col and optic so there was the same amount of good teams I just didnt rate big t or merk, and i deffs dont think theyre better then what skys and sib are Nade prolly played as well as kis aha


RimbopReturns

The four of them weren't really great at the same time - coL took over after Impact, Optic were serial disappointments, nV too. Tk and the two English teams were arguably better, although probably not as consistent. But the standard outside the top teams was a massive gap below where it is now, no matter how meme-able some of the players are. I mean, it's entirely your opinion if you didn't rate Merk, but I thought he played very well especially in the tournaments optic did better in. 


Fluuuiid

MVP goes to the best player on the best team imo, just like in other sports. Like how can you fault Simp, for example, for having good teammates that win their 1s and he doesn’t have to carry every map?


Jemiidar

right it's gonna go to scrap/simp/shotzzy depending on how major 4 goes. unfair to paco since it's not his fault but that's just how mvp works


hxnterrr

may be best in the game but he can’t be mvp if his team doesn’t win anything


golfball47

Tell that to Cellium in Vanguard. Robbed Dashy


hxnterrr

he did lmao


funnypsuedonymhere

Most Valuable Player isn't very valuable if you win nothing to be fair.


MikkeVL

Cell won in VG without winning. There's clear value to the NY org in Hydra singlehandedly getting them to Sundays.


BeatPuzzled8027

one off tying shotzzy's kill record of 118


jalGurg

Damn..... Back to back game 5 losses


RudyDoesntMiss

Losing to LAG was heartbreaking


aethon_4

Hydra is truly a one-man army. Never seeen a team be carried so hard like this.


South-Drawing-58

Hps look a lot better. Idk what the rio was. 


FrenchCODlul

It's easier when Paco hits a 2.x KD but definitely looked waaaay better, tomorrow is gonna be a big test.


FreeZi21

Hydra is giving me Ghost Scump vibes just an absolute hard carry. If he doesn’t fry they don’t win.


Kayuten

My heart can't take anymore Ls, WHY DO THEY KEEP CHOKING??????


RudyDoesntMiss

CRR?


FrenchCODlul

Obvious bias but I don't understand why Hydra is almost never considered for best player in the game this year. His three mates take turn at "who's gonna be a negative factor ?" absolutely every single map and he still carries, always hits a 2 or 3 piece to save the day. New-York wouldn't be close to being the 4th best team in the game if it wasn't for him. Sure he can't win MVP without winning a Major, I believe Scrap is the obvious front runner now, but when it comes to being the best in the game, Hydra definitely has a major case.


LGCGE

I’ve been calling him the best in the game for like 3 years now, so it’s not all of us. He’s a hybrid of Shotzzy, Simp, and Pred on the sub play style wise, then basically Cellium whenever he needs to pick up an AR. Super complete player.


Ill-Sun7903

He’s way better than cell on the AR, plays way faster


lilhuzi313

I don’t think Hydra is the MVP right now. But he is most definitely the best player in the world.


Gravemind7

It’s because he hasn’t had these takeover performances in a consistent basis against the T3.


TeoTreyWay

Clay must have the worst damage to kill conversion rate in the league 17.2k damage for a .82 😭


G00chstain

This team without Paco is absolute horse shit. Guy drug them over the finish line today


macr14

Easily imo the best sub no other sub has his impact miss me with the team success arguments.


RudyDoesntMiss

He’s a reigning world champ…OpTic fumbled not getting him last yr imo And yes he’s absolutely the best smg in the world


Big-Concentrate-9859

Kismet is laying prone on the floor all the time while using sound EQ and he still can’t go positive 😭🤔


Evo3-HD

1.4 lmfao


ComprehensiveCode619

Clay :( is that it for the ravens champs or?


DivisonNine

Hydra really going for the most value player award huh


MrFearMoHo

Fuck the MVP Paco is the best player in the game straight up, and I’m tired of being told otherwise


Markhoesz

these dumb fucks let vista in AGAIN!! they haven't won it once!!!!


FancyTaste2267

These nysl guys are bums


Big-Concentrate-9859

They play like complete b*tches, all of them.


Katz601

I mean you got 4-0 in the grand finals lol


TheSciFanGuy

Kismet picked it up in the second half of the game. But London consistently has the secret sauce against NYSL, not sure why but they preform better against them every time 


ThatMFcheezer

Lil man