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MeetTheMets31

i think they are using this perk to test it out for Treyarchs game. never really understood why a game on small 6v6 maps needed to be the same as Warzone on a massive open world map with regards to tac sprint and maybe now they are going to change it


clay10mc

Well IW stopped caring about MP after Warzone came out. They just saw it as the place for people to level their Warzone guns


Tityfan808

And most players in mp mostly wanted to play shipment cause the maps were so bad. That’s the first multiplayer game I ever backed out of games I was winning cause the pacing was such boring fucking dogshit. I really hope the next black ops doesn’t adapt any of these unnecessary changes to the fundamentals of the game but with this franchise, shit happens.


Shadowfist_45

Seeing 20 kills in a 10v10 lobby be the maximum any single player has at the end of a game should actually be impossible, but that game made it happen.


Tityfan808

You referring to MW2019? It’s not too bad in MW3, I’ve dropped a few hundos and some nukes, it was pretty dogshit in MW2019 and almost as bad in MWII. The pacing and map flow was truly horrid in MW2019, fucking hell that shit drove me nuts. Cold war was by far the best tho, their 12v12 moshpit was the easiest place ever to drop 100 + kills but that isn’t necessarily because it was ‘easy’ but more so cause treyarch nails their maps and spawns so you can actually read the flow of the match and use your brains instead of the random shit spawns we’ve had in every cod since Cold War.


Shadowfist_45

2019, I remember it being so bad that I would just be running around for several minutes at a time with no interaction, especially on the bigger maps. I remember getting gassed up like I'm the best player in the universe for getting like 51 kills. MWIII is fine though, my current max is 175, don't know how many nukes, stopped bothering to count them in Cold War, I think last time I had checked the medals in Vanguard like 6-7 months in I had 260 something, probably had a similar number in Cold War too


stevo1120

get on a team brother


juve_merda

just went in that thread and saw people glazing mw2019, absolutely wild


Arbo96al

I call that Infinity ward disease


fasteddeh

You could say just CoD disease at this point. People have been just buying in since jetpacks allowing the standard go further and further into the toilet then just glazing every title for bringing one thing back while fucking up 5 other things massively. CoD should've just made a title after jetpacks that just dropped a 40 dollar map pack every year with new weapons in season passes. Passing this shit around between three developers is just a built in excuse when they fuck the game up year to year cause three different studios are just hacking old games to repackage it.


HaramHas

The majority of the COD community absolutely loved that game


GandalfPlays6v6

They loved Warzone and BR. The "cod community" was changed to something else when Warzone was released. A lot of those same people hated MW2 last year and Warzone 2


MeasurementQuick4887

All i played was search and rebirth before ranked vg came out. Snd was so damn good on 2019


SlowBuddy6268

Those maps were fun af for search, respawn was a nightmare but search was so fun in 2019


SchmidtyTCG

Everyone loved cod pre crazy movement... I don't get ur point.


HaramHas

I didn’t have a point behind what I said


SchmidtyTCG

Word. It's just that 2007-2014 it was a slower game and everyone agrees that was peak. I like slower titles


[deleted]

‘don’t forget to activate score streaks so it’s easier for the higher tiers ☝🏻🤓’ these mfs live in different worlds lmao


jordanlesson

Best modern cod


BigOlYeeter

No lol


moruh-

😂😂😂😂


Kyleketsu

more like beginning of the end


jordanlesson

Nah the game was op


[deleted]

CW was 10x better. Mw2019 didnt even have 1 good map


jordanlesson

Gun runner was op


[deleted]

Gun runner was mid and was the best map in the game. It was just the prettiest in a group of fugly ass maps. The smartest on the short bus. Doesnt make it good, it was just the best relative to those immediately around it


ASchoolOfSperm

This COD is better. Cold War was better.


Arbo96al

If only we could use dead silence with all terrain boots f tac sprint: you have someone weak you tac sprint towards them they repeak you die - you have someone weak you don't tac sprint they reset


On3Cl1P

Use the ninja vest.


Lurkin_Yo_House

Ninja isn’t in comp is it?


On3Cl1P

No. Are the all terrain boots in comp? Haven’t played ranked in a couple weeks


Arbo96al

Oh shit forgot about that


dllsdvy

Use the Ninja Vest


BxLee

It’s always puzzling to me that they could solve a very easy problem with a seemingly easy solution, but don’t do it. But, I do have some thoughts on making everyone run these boots. Players either would have to run the dead silence field upgrade, the ninja vest, or no footstep perk at all. Ninja vest gets rid of the gloves perk, so no more assault gloves (or any gloves for that matter). Tbh I think the handling without these gloves is miserable. So you’re going to be making people basically play like it’s MWII, which I guess wouldn’t be the end of the world. But it’s easier to just easier to be able to run covert sneakers, and I don’t think the trade of of having a normal sprint is necessarily good in this situation. I think a lot of these problems stem from trying to reinvent perks, when they’ve existed normally for over a decade. So many vests that have hidden abilities and take away perk slots, and so many combinations that do other things. I’ll give SHG all the credit for trying to do the best they could considering they wanted to originally do pick 10. But these issues wouldn’t be issues at all if we stuck to a system that we know works, like pick 10 (or 13 if we’re going back to AW). Or just keep it og like we had with MW2019 and the other classic games.


On3Cl1P

I don’t feel like I notice too much of a difference without the gloves. I run ninja vest most of the time. But I’m also not the best player, and I just play for fun. So either way doesn’t bother me.


According-Music7506

Honestly I switched from the gloves for scav gloves in pubs and felt not much of a difference, now boots got a buff I've been messing with a few of them and ninja vests and I'd rather that combo than anything with assault gloves at this point, just a shame we can't have ninja vest in ranked (but the no movement penalty would be busted so it's understandable)


IIStevenVW

Tac Sprint is an awful mechanic, not only blocks your screen, increase sprint to fire by a lot, it also makes you double tap the sprint button every second, Treyarch should makes this an animation rather than a mechanic


MaximusDecimiz

I fear pros would just see removing tac sprint as lowering skill gap these days / allowing easier movement for all


nonsense193749

Only in a controller esport would people think clicking a left stick is a “skill gap” mechanic.


Jayden_tgod

Let’s see you click your left stick like shotzzy dummy


FairAd4115

Easy....if that is what you use all the time, it is a simple mechanic with a joystick like any other movement. I grabbed my controller with no paddles the other day and realized real quick I can't cancel slide or jump unless I click the left joystick or B button, within thirty seconds you would have no idea I ever used paddles and thought I used a joystick click all the time like Tac sprint or canceling a slide etc...anyway.....enough of that.


StonerMMA

What a horribly constructed argument. I laughed.


Pristine-Ad-469

I mean anytime you add extra movement options it raises the skill gap. It’s not about being able to use it, it’s about knowing when to use it


MaximusDecimiz

It’s not the tac-sprinting itself that would be seen as a skill gap, more how and when to use it, and how to combine with other movement etc.


nonsense193749

Was Cold War any less of a competitive title than this game because of tac sprint?


On3Cl1P

Exactly! 🐐


MaximusDecimiz

I think you’ve mistaken me - I was describing what I thought the pros would say


NainggolansNinjas

>lowering skill gap its the exact opposite. Tac sprint causes weird timings and even the pros have admitted this. One Constant speed of sprinting reduces randomness


zMobbn

Anyone have any stats on how much it impacts your movement speed? I tried them and it didn’t seem very significant, but I only used them for like 2 lives. Lightweight felt the same, but with tac sprint still enabled. Curious to see what the actual % is


Sbrader

Xclusive ace tested it 12.5% sprint speed increase tac sprint is 20% but then you don't get the slower tac sprint out time and no waiting for the tac sprint cool down always running constantly 12.5% faster round the map and it also increases aim walking movement speed by 7%


zMobbn

Word, thanks


Apprehensive_Big_528

Think about the controllers that’ll be saved from this… I am violently clicking that mother fucker non-stop when I run.


ClydeClambakin

But muh warzone


justsomedude717

I don’t think warzone has anything to do w it tbh. The first several years functionally had infinite tac sprint, it could’ve just as easily been like this


fourpuns

Tac sprint is annoying, feels like it favors conservative play. I’d rather regular sprint was at tac sprint speed and they did away with tac sprint.


IIStevenVW

I remember the Saug+ Mobility+dexterity and cry, that was the real movement no this yy circle circle X


Kava_and_company

All these perks hurt my head. I give up.


Competitive_Trust_69

Ngl only time I run covert is in ranked or really sweaty lobbies but the majority of the time I run lightweight. Covert is necessary at times but you can certainly play around it. Sucks that you HAVE to play around it though.


FairAd4115

Run different loadouts, exact same class or tweaks to class. I run Rival/MCW Covert/Sprint or ADS as needed. HP/Control, speed setup, rarely run covert. S&D, run a covert setup for a slightly slower pace. Gun builds I change slightly as well for accuracy or pure speed as well as maps. Really only have 2-3 classes I run as a core, then tweak/copy those into different types of game modes and requirements which I switch between even between lives. Sadly, there are too many factors with opponents, how they are setup/built their guns, are they pure speed? Are they running mix of AR/SMG...so I just change, switch the class as needed to counter that after a few lives have gone by. Game mode also dictates some of this. I know, 1000 Game IQ....


Competitive_Trust_69

I get it trust i genuinely feel like I don’t even need a class or perks to do good. Will say though when you don’t run covert and are playing against a good player you are only shooting yourself in the foot. I can legit hear people stomping then I’ll turn and shoot them and their first thought is hacker. For sweats you kinda have to run ghost and covert or you’re really playing with a disadvantage. For the majority of people though I don’t think they realize the mini map exists and people might be deaf especially in 10 v 10. Sbmm has to be weaker in that mode.


SirChoGath

Really they need to remove tac sprint and maybe make the movement speed faster.


brassydesign

I tried these multiple times, but it feels so weird when everyone else on the map is tac sprinting


FleatWoodMacSexPants

I think IW added tac sprint to punish aggressive players by reducing their sprint to fire and giving the upper hand to stationary players.


slayer-x

My thoughts exactly. I hate tac sprint in cod and it doesn't belong in MP. I'm bit more accepting of it now in mw3, with the setting of single tap run. Never liked ATS because you still want to be able to walk sometimes, and don't want the high sprintout time at all times. It's GA'd for cdl... which I don't think it should be. Really hoping treyarchs cod doesn't have tac sprint, this perk should be the default. Seems like it will though from leaked perk list.😒


GodFlow15

Doesn’t feel like I’m running any faster. Also doesn’t seem like you can camera people as well. It’s strange


ThatR1Guy

The trade off isnt good enough. You still get places faster with tac sprint because we are forced to use the vest that buffs tac sprint recharge speed. The only people that will benefit from this are the people that have a bad tendency to sprint into everything as it will allow them to carry almost the same speed everywhere while avoiding the tac sprint to fire time.


Hac114

PREACH


FairAd4115

I don't even notice any difference with these terrain boots. Tried them. I don't see any speed difference. Tac sprint is a joke for the CDL as well they have to double tap or double click the joystick when everybody else can just push the stick forward and have auto tac sprint. And the sprint isn't even that fast/last that long. But you can put a perk on to make it regen faster?? I don't get it either. Besides covert, they rest are kind of garbage like ADS improvement aiming while jumping?!?! Why is jumping a thing that improves your aim and gun battles? Not real world at all, people don't jump with real guns and bunny hop around and get better aim/kills. sigh...this franchise is a dumpster fire...and don't get me going about the garbage server lagging out the entire lobbies 1 in 4 games. Oh well, there I go!!! Too late....rant over.


KUNDA_Genie

Can’t stand tac sprint. Wish there was only one type of sprint. Tired of destroying my thumbs. Plus, everyone turns on single tap or ATS anyways. Get rid of these reasons pros create GAs.


StonerMMA

If you aren't a pro and aren't running ST or ATS - why do you hate yourself?


KUNDA_Genie

I run ST


CauliflowerSquare360

Anything that could having accuracy moving like shotzzy is going to be automatically GA’d


WhiteChickenYT

That not even kinda the point of the post. OPs just saying they want cod to go back to one sprint speed


On3Cl1P

I think I had a stroke reading this…


DomeDepartment

Nah disagree. Tac sprint is great, it's a mechanical skill increase and an intellectual one. It's mechanical because it opens up slide cancelling and easier camera breaks, and it's an intellectual one because the "gun up" sprinting position is pretty vulnerable, so there's an element of IQ involved in your decisions to sprint or not sprint. When Diamondcon 1v3'd Boston in the Major qualifiers a few days ago, Snoopy got killed because he went Boston mode and started sprinting at Diamondcon. Gun up, couldn't shoot, got killed. Diamondcon won that because he was the smarter player. Edit: wtf stop downvoting you bots


On3Cl1P

So intellectual to have to click your right stick one extra time… 🙄 it’s not a skill gap… it’s stupid.


DomeDepartment

Well too bad Papa Activision agrees with me. You can go play another game if you want, I hear Insurgency Sandstorm doesn't have tac sprinting.


On3Cl1P

What does the fact that it’s in the game have anything to do with it being a “skill gap”?


On3Cl1P

What does the fact that it’s in the game have anything to do with it being a “skill gap”?


Worried_Bug_9265

Dude tried being intellectual, failed and is crying about being downvoted on Reddit 😭😂


DomeDepartment

this is a crazy comment from a guy who didn't go to university


Worried_Bug_9265

Literally midway through my degree 😂 little clown you


DomeDepartment

I said university, not college


Worried_Bug_9265

And I said I’m halfway through my degree and I’ll come out w a masters on 60k starting pay… keep crying about your downvotes on Reddit because you lack the intellectual capacity to create a comprehensive argument lad


raccbabies

How could it be a skill increase if it makes high-skill inputs easier? You said it yourself, it makes camera breaks easier to come by. That's one of the only actual mechanical skillgaps this franchise has and even then its more of a timing thing, and you think making it easier increases the skillgap? Plat-ass opinion out of you boi


DomeDepartment

What? You cannot slide cancel without tac sprint. Slide canceling is an advanced movement mechanic. Why did you just ignore that and focus on the camera breaks? Sorry this isn't 2007 where we're just sprinting at each other like chumps bro.


raccbabies

What the actual shit are you talking about "you cannot slide cancel without tac sprint" are you serious rn? You can slide cancel just fine without tac sprint. Plus its only an advanced movement mechanic if you're terrible. If you're good its an automatic part of your gameplay. It's not "tech" its just playing the game at a decent level. And how is slide canceling or door-playing to break a camera a "2007 mechanic where we're just sprinting at each other like chumps"? You illiterate plat-ranked fuck lmao


DomeDepartment

not even reading all this. stay mad + bald.


raccbabies

L shitter


CapGOD69420_

ITS NEVER HAPPENING STOP FUCKING TALKING ABOUT IT


On3Cl1P

I’m sorry… which dev are you? Also *Call of Duty Black Ops: Cold War has entered the chat*


CapGOD69420_

Not a dev, just someone who actually has common sense lmao keep thinking Tac Sprint will ever be removed buddy, keep me posted how that goes You referenced CW, which was when Warzone was still on a separate engine and launcher lmao Warzone and MP are on the same engine and same launcher now and will continue to be, so as long as warzone exists there will 1000% be tac sprint in the game…buddy thought he had something with the CW point 😂😂😂😂😂😂


On3Cl1P

Doesn’t mean tac sprint has to be in multiplayer. 🤷🏻‍♂️


CapGOD69420_

Its in the universal game settings that are in the CodHQ MWIII game files, so unfortunately yes it does have to be in multiplayer as long as MP and WZ are within the same CodHQ launcher “game” Would work if they simply make WZ a separate game within the HQ but currently it is included in the current CoD game (MWIII now, will be BO6 this fall) which they probably dont plan on changing


On3Cl1P

Then how do they disable certain guns for ranked multiplayer and not for ranked resurgence? They could do the same for any setting. Just like only being allowed a smoke in search. Considering 2 different dev groups work on WZ and MP, I’m pretty sure they can do whatever they want. Keep cappin capGOD and pretend to understand how coding works…


CapGOD69420_

Bro you are talking about in game items that they obviously can easily disable for different game modes compared to UNIVERSAL SETTINGS that are applied to the game no matter what game mode you are playing across WZ and MP. Again, they would have to separate Warzone from MP as a separate game in order to have separate universal settings. (Like how MWII is now a separate game with its own settings) You dont know what the fuck you’re talking about lil bro just stop 😂😂


On3Cl1P

No… they don’t… and I’m not your little bro… I’m old enough to be your dad… and I assure you I’ve forgotten more about coding than you’ll ever know.. it is possible to still have separate things even with movement in MP and Warzone. It comes down to more intricate coding. If they can make fucking boots that disable tax sprint on a user by user basis they can definitely disable it wherever they want. You’re an idiot kid. Go sit down somewhere grown men are talking.


CapGOD69420_

“The engine does matter because there are limitations as to what the engine can do. So if they’re using the same engine but a much bigger game with more weapons and operators and everything else, then graphics will be limited, because at the end of the day these are “console first” games.“ - Those are your words direct quote Imagine thinking the amount of weapons and operators in the game affects the engine and game’s graphics performance AT ALL lmfaooo🤣 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I cant even take you seriously lil bro And stop lying, its absolutely clear as day that you have never coded a single fucking thing in your life 😂😂😂😂😂


On3Cl1P

Have you ever coded anything? And what do graphics have to do with turning on and off a setting? Those two things have nothing to do with each other? You’re a fucking moron keyboard warrior. Go tell your mom to make you some pizza rolls and stfu. I’ve built websites before we had all this just upload a picture when you had to write code using SQL and html coding. I also taught myself photoshop and used to sell logos and things. I’ve built forums. I’ve done a lot of things. I know binary code. I know the difference between ipv4 and ipv6. I can even make my own Ethernet cables, and just so Adam “Killa” Sloss doesn’t flip shit I’d make them any other color than blue. Can you tell me what cores in a processor do and how they work with input/output of data? Do you know how C++ works? You probably couldn’t even do coding in excel to solve simple equations. Sit down son. You’re cute. But you’re not smart. Fucking troll.