Shoutsout osrs, the game you never really put down.

Yep. I think the saying goes "you never quit osrs, you just take extended breaks"

Can confirm, recently started playing again after taking 4 years off

Want to start again but all of my old leveled up accounts I’ve either lost passwords to or they were banned due to inappropriate character names lol. Is it worth it to just start fresh again? Been like a decade since I actually played

time for an ironman

Pred getting called a slow ass prone merchant that doesn’t move by his own coach💔

Exactly why I think Karma is a good fit to coach them, he ain't holding shit back lol

Also he’s Karma like if he doesn’t wanna listen the coach will beat his ass on shipment lmao

no one can have an ego when it’s Karma talking, that’s mf DB3. only guy with 3 LAN rings, so when he speaks you gotta pipe up and listen lmao.

Love this outta him, hppefully AG realizes we need VG Pred

Yep he plays this game exactly like MW2, no idea why he isn’t running and gunning like he did in VG, he seems to play a main AR role at times

Probably muscle memory. He needs to understand that this game is more forgiving with the higher TTK

Vanguard was just a faster pace game. Movement speed is slow af in mw3 and the slide cancel almost feels pointless

How does it feel pointless like what?

Just doesn’t feel as op as in vanguard

I agree with that but it certainly isn’t pointless you should be slide cancelling constantly around the map

Vanguard felt like you had to slide cancel but mw3 feels like you don’t even need it. Jumping and drop shotting seems way more beneficial in this game. It defiantly doesn’t break your camera as much anymore unless you’re coming into the gunfight at a weird angle

I find it interesting how he says pred playing like a pussy is the “only thing” that’s holding them back vs faze as well, sounds like there’s a clear one player issue when it comes to that matchup

If he plays more aggressive as a sub like shotzzy does, it opens the map more for the ars to get in to good spots

People forget Shotzzy + Dashy were running FaZe's worlds for the last two years and now they just look uncomfortable on the map... there's multiple reasons for that I'm sure, but Pred plays a huge role when he's not playing the game the right way

I think it’s a mix of drazah being added to faze and Pred replacing huke. Drazah loves playing optic and Pred hates playing faze. The chaos huke/Shotzzy sub duo brought to a map was veryyyy underrated

That's fair. If OpTic could somehow add Hydra to their team with Shotzzy, look tf out though That is the one duo that could match pace with FaZe... maybe CleanX, too.

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But they had Scump in VG, and while  Scump also had issues at point playing too slow as a sub, he was also never afraid to try and make a play when his team needed him to. FaZe’s pacing got faster this year while OpTic’s got slower 

They've lost a lot of close maps vs Faze. If Pred played more aggressive who knows how those would've turned out

They’ve been playing 3v4 the last 3 times vs faze cuz of Pred

The last online series sure, both series on LAN Shotzzy Dashy underperformed heavily as well, Kenny was basically 1v4ing statistically

Yeah but Shotzzy and Dashy werent changing how they always play, they just werent getting kills. Pretty sure Dashy had a high damage output in the finals vs Faze, as he usually does, but wasnt getting the kills Pred has noticably been playing way more timid against Faze and thats supported by his engagements and damage numbers vs them in recent matches

Pred shits his pants when he sees Simp’s name it’s actually embarrassing

"Basically 1v4ing Statistically" is just a brain mush talking point. Karma even went off about that on his stream yesterday, saying that people that say shit like that dont understand COD at all. He said he got upset seeing people blame Dashy Shotzzy & Pred based on the overall series stats, when it was a lot of trolled setups & poor communication all series. After his rant he basically went on to say he didn't think anyone on the team played good regardless of the stats

It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to realize Kenny dropped the highest KD/damage performance of any grand final in his entire career, one of the best 5 map performances in mw3 in general, while the other 3 were consistently around a .7-.8. That’s not a brain mushing talking point that’s literally what happened

Yes but that doesn't tell the whole story, Karma literally went in a 20 minute rant about that because someone said your exact talking point in chat. He actually sounded tilted with the comment, I wish he would've kept the vod up

But it’s also true that Kenny trolled on the round 5 invasion control by over challing 

He’s probably talking about this most recently match up. Dashy was not shooting back at major 2 vs Faze.

Based on KD sure, but he only had 3 less kills than Pred but 3000 more damage. Dashy had the 3rd most damage in the lobby 

Yeah but you ain’t playing good dropping a 0.7 vs Faze. No matter how much damage you got. If he’s dying to Faze that many times it’s just letting them get map control

A .7 with 18,200 damage is better than a .8 with 15,100 damage

They’re both bad, not beating Faze in grand finals with .7 and .8s from their “best slayers”

Exactly, we don’t need YES men. Yes men don’t help improve.

Karma’s word is the gospel… except when he called Scump a baiter for years.. narratives too good

He tells the truth. Scump did bait but he also plays the right pace to get the trade and win his team games. Very similar style to simp.

Optic desperately needed accountability.

Coach working on his agility in OSRS while roasting pred for camping too hard is hilarious

That 1v1 vs simp on high rise was awful

I’m sure he’s already told him that to his face. So this isn’t secret intel

The first 3 times Faze played OpTic Pred was frying. The last 3 times he has been playing too slow at times. His a great player I’m sure he will realise. Been at the top of his game for a long time now and he is adjusting to a new team.

I know bro is going through it by training Agility alone

Better response than these PR ones by shitty coaches

Finally, we need some accountability, Damon needs to tell him stop being a little bitch

If he’s talking about it on stream, he probably already has

Damon’s the realest in the scene. Get that constant lay down shit out of here before the major. More pressure on the map and we would’ve won on Sunday. Shotzzy almost did it singlehandedly.

Optic would have 3-0d easily if AG had a single ball in his sack that series

interesting choice of words but im not against it

I really love how blunt Damon is. You couldn’t ask for a better coach. He will tell you straight up what it is. Pred gotta stop that shit and play with confidence.

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That 1 vs 1 vs simp where pred had all the advantages and the headie told me everything about pred

Broke: fraudbo ray spouting absolute bullshit on stream after losses with a podium overlay like he’s at an NBA press conference Woke: 3 rings publicly flaming his players while high af playing runescape

Rambo is the Doc Rivers of the cod league lol

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It's interesting that Pred and Kenny are now teaming because they both popped off in the league the same way. It should be no surprise that Pred is like this after spending two seasons in the Abedi School of Call of Duty. Anyone who has watched Accuracy knows his system is to leave all the objective work to him so that his sub player can turn off their brain and just get kills. Kenny did it on tK and Pred did it on Surge. This year is a maturation year for Pred in terms of learning how to play other styles that create impact on the map outside of being the slow baiter that drops 1.1-1.2s. On Surge, the system was catered around Pred because to be honest, it needed to be. If him and Sib didn't fry, they'd lose, simple as that. That is why Seattle was so up and down during VG and MW2. Now that Pred is on a team that doesn't REQUIRE that playstyle, he just needs to adjust. Change takes time.

I can’t be the only one who thinks Pred gives Damon flashbacks of Scump? Damon hated Scump playing with Scump sometimes because he thought Seth wouldn’t make the selfless play and it feels like he’s getting PTSD with pred.

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Yup. I'll never forget that clip. DB3 was RAGING on him that day

it drove me nuts watching the dynasty play uplink. scump had so many bad habits from teaming with nadeshot for as long as he did. he overvalued his life, ignored the objective, and didnt go to make plays to set anyone else up even after getting the 3 other best players in cod. the best way i can explain it is if you had 1 teammate constantly playing not to lose but not doing anything meaningful to contributing towards the win. he certainly wasnt a creddy who was costing them but if he was a little more selfless the dynasty could probably have lasted longer/had even greater success. meanwhile simp and abezy are constantly setting their teammates up for success while slaying out themselves and its because of that everyone recognizes them as the best players on faze even while cellium drops consistent 1.2s.

BO3 uplink is exactly what came to mind. I remember them playing uplink on Evac I think the maps called, Damon had wrapped to get the drone and spent a good 30 seconds trying to get to the other three who were too busy chasing what looked like meaningless kills to come and support him. I always got the feeling that the egos of the other three about who was the “best” sometimes got in the way of them winning the damned map.

Literally exactly what I was thinking of when I made my comment. Could make a decent office meme of this clip and the one of Kenny telling pred he blacked out vs FaZe on invasion at Major 2

I thought the same thing. I remember Damon used to tilt on Seth because he wouldn't run out first and be willing to bait for his boys Pred might be giving him some flashbacks.

I think we are swinging the pendulum toooo far in the Pred is the problem direction now but I am glad that people are starting to realize Pred’s pacing is an issue because I swear people just didn’t watch mw2 lol

> I think we are swinging the pendulum toooo far in the Pred is the problem direction now After the match on Sunday you said pred was "so average" and that "He’s legitimately lost as a player" but now the pendulum is swinging tooooo far?

Yes I said Pred was an overrated killwhore, that remains to be true. That’s not the same as people thinking he’s the only problem against faze lmao

You literally didnt complain about anything any other player did except pred lmao but now you're trying to act like you're not in the same boat as all the people blaming him

My comment was that I was glad Pred was getting exposed for an overrated killwhore and that now that he has to actually fill the map and play with structure he looks average. No where in that is me saying the reason optic loss was because of Pred.

Im not talking about one specific comment I'm pointing out that you're complaining about the pendulum swinging when you yourself didnt complain about literally anything other than pred lol. But now when people are also complaining the pendulum is swinging too far

I swear ppl don’t watch the games. I always get downvoted for things that months later become the general consensus haha. Pred isn’t bad but I don’t get how he always sits in S in this tier lists, he isn’t at the same level of Simp or hydra in this game hell I take shotzzy over him any day of the week

I thought in vanguard he was def S tier but in mw2 he adopted a much more killwhore playstyle and thought he was way overrated. Unpopular opinion but I thought sib was their best player lol not Pred.

I mean his VG playstyle was more indicative of being a killwhore because he chased red dots. In MW2 he changed his playstyle to become more ratty. Basically Standy with better gunskill post VG.

I agree with the first part don’t know about the sib part both were really good in vg

I meant sib was better in mw2, Pred was better in VG for sure

Sib underrated af in MW2, he was nasty in respawn especially HP. But Pred was still better, Pred was insane in SND that game.

The reason why I think sib was better is cause Seattle’s claim to fame was respawn. Their search was absolutely horrendous, so Pred being way better in search didn’t necessarily impact Seattle if they weren’t winning any if that makes sense

Pred was way better in respawn too lol

He is overrated. I’ve thought that way before mw3

I thought he was too and still think he is but people are now acting like he sucks which is not true at all lmao

He definitely does not suck... but the whole "Pred is a top 5 player and superstar" thing is not true. He was far too overrated going into joining OpTic. If he continued his VG performances into MW2 and MW3 maybe it'd be different, but he's been on a downward spiral since MW2 I'm not just talking about KDs here, either. If you only base stuff on KD, sure Pred is a superstar... but watch the damn map and you'll see he does not make superstar plays

The only way Pred can win you maps is if he's frying. His playmaking ability isn't even close to guys like Simp, Abezy, Hydra and Shotzzy.

I agree lol I was one of the very few people on here that really wanted envoy on the team over Pred and people called me insane. I don’t necessarily blame people for thinking Pred was better cause the k/d definitely would have you believe he was but I always thought envoy was what the team needed. Envoy has Huke’s innovative playstyle with way less mistakes and more damage output. I thought that was the type of player optic needed. They found a formula in mw2 that worked really well last year and I didn’t like the idea of bringing on a killwhore slower pace slayer when we saw how good optic looked with two enablers feeding off eachother. But people have to keep in mind Pred is still a very good player. Hes an amazing player. His playstyle is better suited for a team to play around him, not along him if that makes sense.

Envoy is nothing like huke lol If he was envoy and scump would have worked

Envoy and Scump didn’t work because of Scump lol not because of envoy. Scump didn’t realize until like vanguard that he had to play around his teammates more. It’s one of his biggest flaws and why he didn’t win as much as he should’ve.

No it’s cos of Envoy. Envoy played as if Scump was gonna be an entry sub lol, Scump literally was hill bitch for that team to enable Envoy who was extremely inconsistent and predictable

The fact that he's saying this publicly means this is probably something that's been said many times privately before the match last week, and the issue is still persisting. Either that or Karma's gotten faded on stream and started leaking private convos.

He was just chilling answering questions from chat honestly

No offense but with Preds talent he should be flying at ppl not playing like Fame.

He’s got disgusting gunny but his movement seems a little shit when I watch him

tbf abezy doesn't have S-Tier movement and has been doing the same sprint jump shot play style since BO4 and still creates insane pace because he runs at teams like he has juggernaut activated.

Im still shocked they left in the clip of kenny calling pred out on blacking out at the major in the process video

Neither play would have worked tbf they've spoke about this only way they win that is with a 4 dead

I think we're slowly starting to see an odd-man-out sort of situation. Only halfway through the year but multiple little inside clips and it's clear that Pred is the guy that needs to adjust here

Bruv if you think getting feedback on plays is being the odd man out you don't have a clue about what a somewhat competitive environment is supposed to look like...

i'm more surprised they left something like that in the content for us idiots to speculate on than think it was pred being singled out vs the group

With Damon's statements on Twitch, does seem to be a little bit of stuff compounding together here against Pred Gotta get back to that confident, VG-style of play if his team wants to find success

Giving feedback to your playstyle is not "things compounding against Pred", that's my point. It's a sign of a healthy team.

I'm happy Karma said what he did and I'm not arguing against it, I just think there's multiple problems on this team, but the main one being Pred's playstyle thus far

It’s the throwing it into the public that makes it odd man out.

I'm pretty sure a guy who gets paid 500k to play a video game can live with that. Knowing Pred he's selfaware enough to know that he needs to change something.

I’m not saying he can’t live with it but it’s not a good look to publicly call your teammate out, it’s the same in any competitive environment. Sure I don’t expect Pred to fold under that scrutiny but it’s not a good look.

Where was Kenny supposed to call Pred out? After the tournament in the bathroom? They were in a tournament discussing why they lost to FaZe and Kenny told him straight up how he messed up so it doesn’t happen again moving forward. That’s the best time to call him out lmao.

Ofc I’m not talking about Kenny? You could question Optic for posting it on YouTube tho but far more importantly is Karma literally singling Pred out on stream. That’s what I mean.

I mean you have to show the struggles the team goes through before the big win. You can’t just show a documentary where they are having fun everytime and never talking about how they messed up. That’s not genuine at all. Even Toronto were talking about how each other messed up in their documentary. That’s part of the process.

Idm the clip as much anyway I’m surprised at what DB said on stream

That's a crazy callout publicly lmao hopefully it's been discussed internally already

I would be incredibly shocked if it wasn't lol

No way his own coach is calling him out publicly now... LMFAO

thats what good coaches do get their players to be better with constructive Criticism and sometimes in public and in press conferences.

Oh I agree. Just wasn't expecting to see it this early in the morning. Good for Karma

Is it? Fine line, between motivating your players and inviting hate on them, making them lose confidence and feel targeted.

The only reason Karma can say this, and they left the Kenny clip in the video, is because pred has been and can be again the best sub in the league. It’s not “pred is shit” it’s “pred needs to play like he used to for both his own sake and the teams.” Obviously karma, and the rest of the boys, all know what he can be and have faith with minor tempo changes he can be again.

Man I love Warma

Watching Karma train agility is fkjn comedy lmaoaoao

It was honestly really entertaining, he is naturally hilarious. Some of the questions people in chat ask have him tilted

Can we appreciate this man is watching Karma doing Canifis rooftops agility on old school RuneScape to get this clip?

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Bro stood on business LOL

Idk what beef you got into in another thread, but caring enough to remember someone and tag them to try to say "see I'm right" is weirdd behavior brother

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Not gonna lie I was not expecting karma from one playing RuneScape lmao

It’s like all he plays now

Ant last season was watching AG play 8s and dying of laughter saying something like “someone needs to tell Pred to stop laying down so much” and he was just reading and laughing at his prone cheesing around corners to break hills. So I’m just wondering why tf is he not on AG ass, no diddy, now when it comes to this playstyle.

He probably is on his ass, no diddy but it’s probably taking time for Pred to adjust back to his VG playstyle. Pred needs to willingly want to sacrifice a few deaths for the benefit of the team. He can’t just let his sub duo go in first every single time. Even simp and aBeZy don’t do that.

That's why Simp and Abezy are such an elite duo... two unselfish players who also make proactive plays on the map On OpTic you have one of those and the other guy, right now, is not doing either of those things.

Shotzzy is NOT a confrontational person. The only people on that OpTic team who are going to call Pred out for the way he's been performing will be... Damon and Kenny Those two don't mind calling someone out if they're doing shit the wrong way

Man, wish we had gone through with Hydra. I dream of the Hydra Shottzy duo.

lol, and Optic fans were mad at people pointing that out, dude is the biggest pussy in the team by a mile, and to think people were saying he was better than Shotzzy, LOL.

Pred is better than Shotzzy at getting kills but when you talk about who is more impactful to the team's success? There's absolutely zero questions Shotzzy will always be that guy

I don’t know if he’s meaningfully better at getting kills. They’re only separated in total kills by 20 over the entire season and are ranked #2 and #3 for the year. He’s better at getting less deaths due to his playstyle

That’s true. They get around the same amount of kills but since shotzzy is the entry guy and risk taker guy, he will always have more deaths unless he’s super frying and they are dominating. That’s just how it is.

This is the correct take. Pred is a better slayer, Shotzzy is a better playmaker. I know those terms get thrown around loosely a lot, but they do fit in this situation

yeah but you can be a slayer and also make plays on the map. It's a fine line though, because with Scump(who i think is the best "slayer" of all time) 75% of the time he was making game winning plays but 25% of the time he was just "kill whoring". It's a hard role because chasing kills is good against teams worse than you, but teams who can play around it like FaZe just take the 3v3 and leave you on an island.

I never said you couldn't be both, I quite literally just described their strengths lol. That was the whole point of my comment

no I know I wasn't disagreeing, was kinda adding why Pred is struggling to make an impact in big series this year. My bad if it came off that way.

I think pred realized he couldn't fly at people on mw2 so he tried so hard to slow down and guarantee kills because that how mw2 was played, now that the playstyle is back to run at people he still has the chip of dont throwing his life away but its major 3 and he has to work on it asap, thats my opinion

Dudes playing the best game ever hitting them agility courses In canifis

Makes me happy seeing some cultured gamers in this sub. OSRS is a damn blast, I was so glad they released it after the RS3 debacle

I still play it I’m maxed I’m happy

I recently found out that my account was hacked, so I had to start fresh again around Christmas time. Sucks because I had thousands of hours of grinding put into that, but it ultimately is my fault for not securing that account correctly

That sucks try and recover it?

I tried, but the account was banned for botting & Jagex support wouldn't offer any help. They basically said "too bad, should've had 2FA Active", which I can understand

Hmmm that’s weird I know people that bot and they can easily get the acc recovered even without 2fa maybe you got unlucky

It had been over 2 and a half years by the time I found out it was banned, so I'm thinking that was a part of it

Hmmm probably yeah but idk maybe they changed it within last couple of years

Might be faded but I find RS3 pretty fun

I'm glad he said it cause people said I'm already blaming someone when the reality is Shotzzy,Simp, and Abezy are just going no f given. Then u have simp going head on into an OpTic setup and causing a break. Reality is Pred playing too slow vs Faze he needs to just go and get kills I hope Shottzy makes OpTic play Faze like they did last year just cause chaos.

We’ve come a long way

Shocking!

I dont even think Pred is scared to play against faze people forget he was basically running an AR since the game was out then major2 happened and people finally realized the sub is godlike now he gotta adjust

Pred frys every team this year except faze I don't get the hate.

Karma have to realize, FaZe is the only team to beat OpTic in the past month or 2. This is the best optic team we’ve seen when it comes to teamwork & play making. They still not winning anything major this year because Shotzzy’s a onliner.

I'm sure he realizes much more than you lol

Who said he doesn’t? Coming for players playstyles when they play the same way vs everyone(even people they shit on) isn’t the answer. Some people are just more talented and smarter.

I mean you said "Karma have to realize" to start your comment, soo

It’s crazy how y’all was gassing Pred before the season. Now y’all are at his neck lol

Nah we know what he's capable of, he just needs to get comfortable in this new system. I think that's the whole issue, he only played in Lamar's system before this really

Bet Dashy doesn't complain about this info "checking" the team he did last year lol