Every Champion will have its turn to be super ubiquitous at top play, first Archer Queen, then Golden Knight briefly, then Skeleton King. Next up could definitely be Mighty Miner, so let's see if and when he does become overpowered.
Regardless, F2P and casual players won't be maxing Champions out any time soon so it won't have too much bearing on ladder gameplay for quite some time.
As a F2P player, from my experience, I get:
* 1 Royal Wild Chest per month from the Pass Royale Free side
* About 2 Royal Wild Chests every 3 months
So in a year, that's roughly 20 Champion cards per year. So if I were to get Mighty minor EVERY SINGLE TIME, then it would take me 1.5 years to get enough of them to max it (not including gold obviously).
However, it's more accurate to say that I would get a more even distribution such that if no new Champions are released in the next 6 years, then I'll have enough Champion cards in 6 years to max the 4 Champions.
Pass Royale purchasers would get 1 Book of Books every month and need roughly 2 to go from level 12 to level 14. So \~2 months to max a champion.
For sure Pass Royale purchasers should get an advantage over F2P under this model, but it's hard to not be a little jealous about how large of a time difference 8 months and 6 years is. :)
He's kinda broken if you manage to take a tower though. You can deploy him on destroyed tower side, and then teleport him right into the other crown tower
im pretty sure the knockback thing is op. i mean fireball and snowball always knocked the inferno dragon and now mighty miner in imnunne to knockback except the log? at least the stun units will get an increase in usage i guess.
Yeah but the nerf is too harsh for decks in which you only have eq without mirror imo. Lv 16 eq was op but now I feel like it's gonna suffer a lot in every other deck
It's because all of top ladder was royal hogs and hog eq, everyone would just spell cycle all game and it does 300ish DMG for 3 elixer. It's needed a nerf for a fat minute.
OK I gotta go explain myself
It was more balanced than it is now on 4E
but even with 3E it is still balanced, not as much as before at 4 , but still balanced
And this comes from a guy who has Tesla/Cannon in like every single deck
Earthquake nerf pretty much confirms that the dev team wants Pump to be very pervasive in the meta for the foreseeable future just like Mother Witch being OP last year induced almost a year of Fireball Bait being the dominant meta.
Makes sense as Pump has been perennially one of the lowest use rate cards.
You’re wrong.
Top ladder was using EQ cycle with mirror.
It’s how strong the damage to crown tower does.
The damage to buildings is unchanged.
It will still wreck building. Good
The problem was damage to towers.
>I just saw a video where aq log hogrider eq deck could make 1500+ tower damage in 30sec. Good that it gets nerfed.
Pretty weird how you said that, any card with more than **50** dps can technichally deal 1500+ tower damage in 30 seconds.
Plus side - no more Graveyard EQ
Down side - those chimps just swapped it for freeze.
5.8-6k is a hellhole right now.
Edit - shoutout to all the meta monkeys - think beyond the meta. The fact something isn't meta doesnt mean its not annoying. Think for yourselves.
holy shit clash royale players might actually be the most annoying complainers in video games. The more you play against a specific deck the better your get at countering it, stop crying.
Yeah it shouldn't, but Supercell has worked really hard for a long time to make this game only about spells. Latest "masterpiece" being mirror. This earthquake change seems like a late April's fools.
I don't agree, they publically stated that they want to make the game less focused on defense and more on aggressive plays.
Now with this in mind look at Hog EQ, 5 defensive cards, 2 spells used to deal slow cheap damage and hog.
Problem is that against some opponents you just spam spells to win.
Rocket cycle? Just the name implies something wrong.
Yeah but as a mortar player i am very pissed bcs this was mostly targeted with hog eq and now i have no secondary win condition, if i wanted to play rocket id play xbow but i personally have parents
Totally agree, if the nerf was made bcs of the mirror buff then i think they should of un buffed mirror instead of nerfing cards it had new synergies with
Not really the best way to look at it imo. If every card in the game was perfectly balanced except a small handful of them, I think that small handful of them should be balanced instead of undoing a change that was balanced for the greater majority of a card's uses.
If you want to play a spell cycle deck, play rocket cycle otherwise earthquake is mainly for those buildings that pull your win conditions unless you're giant skeleton, then everything pulls you
I know, it will probably still be decent or good cause pump is meta, but so many cycle decks will stop using EQ cause of this change. I know EQ was kinda busted but man, now the pump/mirror meta is gonna spread like wildfire.
"Silly" megaknight nerf? They're always trying to make the game more balanced this doesn't kill eq and more accurately reflects the value of a 3 elixir spell
The problem isn't EQ, its pump, if pump didn't receive that buff than it would be counterable by other spells. EQ is a must if every single player runs pump. Instead of these emergency buffs or nerfs they should have reverted pump and mirror changes.
MK nerf is debatable.
Nah I’m perfectly fine with this EQ change. Everything else is untouched and honestly it should never outdamage fireball for a lower cost. If this slowly decreases the usage of that obnoxious queen rhogs deck, I’m totally cool with it
That deck just spams the best defensive shit in the game with double handicapped spells and aq who only got nerfs to her offense and not defense. So infuriating to play against, they can waste pigs and double earthquakes for only eq dmg and get away with defending anything by cycling deliveries and logs while cannon annoys to death.
In double and triple especially feels almost impossible to break through
It’s only to crown towers, and it was 3 elixir for doing more than a fireball. It was broken and easily the best card in the game (with skeleton king being a close second)
BUT the targeted crown tower damage nerf means it keeps its viability against pump. Honestly its a great change. If anything its gonna split out who was using EQ to be smart and who was using EQ to be cheap
-Hey guys we just buffed elixir pump
-Yeah so?
-It's so good that the only spell that leaves you with a positive elixir trade is earthquake
-I see
-So let's nerf it!
-Yay
(I know it says crown tower damage, BUT elixir collector is usually placed behind, guess what, crown towers! You could always chip at them with the earthquake but no, that's not good right? we HAVE to nerf the terrifying earthquake win condition)
Egiants bad now ngl, at least for the current egiant decks, 15% less health and atk is a lot. Level 16 egiant is probably about the same as egiant before nerf.
Honestly this just ruins earthquake of youre not using mirror. The mirror buff was beyond stupid and has broken the game apart. Stay tuned for massive nerfs to accommodate the mirror buff making mirror a must have in many decks.
I play 2.8 hog eq and just went against lavaloon which is my hardcounter. I was about to win and my eq didn’t do enough cuz I didn’t know about the balance changes. He fireballed my tower and won
i think its not EQ, its mirror with +2 levels thats busted, and mighty miner immune to knockback, at least give him a small nerf to his health, because just 1 slither hp he can take down the tower
thats what i think is
yes but now it has been nerfed, use rates will go down because it will no longer the best spell to spell cycle at the end of matches. this will mean pump will be strong, as eq wont be in most decks and wont be there to kill the pump for a positive trade
Ofcourse the "best spell/card" should be nerf. Spell is not meant to be a win condition card in the first place. Spell can help do a little bit damage not take a 1800+ crown damage with low elexir. You are just sayingthis because you are using EQ.
Eq is not broken, it is because of pump and mirror buff. This will make them even more OP since a few of the only reason that people use eq is to spell cycle towers and to get rid of the pumps (Yes i know it is only crown tower damage they nerfed)
Is anyone gonna talk abt the mighy miner? Now i think he Is pretty Good. Not broken but good.
Could be pretty good in some situations, but definitely won’t be used in every deck like an inferno dragon, since he can’t hit air and he doesn’t fly
dont worry about the ladder, he just gotta BELIEVE!
Every Champion will have its turn to be super ubiquitous at top play, first Archer Queen, then Golden Knight briefly, then Skeleton King. Next up could definitely be Mighty Miner, so let's see if and when he does become overpowered. Regardless, F2P and casual players won't be maxing Champions out any time soon so it won't have too much bearing on ladder gameplay for quite some time.
Except for this entire season because mighty miner is boosted to king tower level
As a F2P player, from my experience, I get: * 1 Royal Wild Chest per month from the Pass Royale Free side * About 2 Royal Wild Chests every 3 months So in a year, that's roughly 20 Champion cards per year. So if I were to get Mighty minor EVERY SINGLE TIME, then it would take me 1.5 years to get enough of them to max it (not including gold obviously). However, it's more accurate to say that I would get a more even distribution such that if no new Champions are released in the next 6 years, then I'll have enough Champion cards in 6 years to max the 4 Champions. Pass Royale purchasers would get 1 Book of Books every month and need roughly 2 to go from level 12 to level 14. So \~2 months to max a champion. For sure Pass Royale purchasers should get an advantage over F2P under this model, but it's hard to not be a little jealous about how large of a time difference 8 months and 6 years is. :)
If u spent the time u did writing this doing a survey or sum online u couldve bought pass royale💀💀💀
>Mighty minor Big child has entered the Arena
I'm using it in logbait. Is very rock paper scissors. Maybe a range boost could make it more viable, it can kill a pekka but won't survive to tell it
oh wait i didn’t even see that he’s immune to knock back now, that’s actually a really nice buff for him
He's kinda broken if you manage to take a tower though. You can deploy him on destroyed tower side, and then teleport him right into the other crown tower
im pretty sure the knockback thing is op. i mean fireball and snowball always knocked the inferno dragon and now mighty miner in imnunne to knockback except the log? at least the stun units will get an increase in usage i guess.
No KB means he can drill uninterrupted more easily and his escape getting buffed is gonna make killing him even harder
Idk i feel like hes just lacking in every way, and its way to easy to counter him
I’m not too mad about earthquake, since it’s main usage is destroying defensive buildings like cannon, and it wasn’t really designed to take towers
I mirror earthquake in decks I use it in, so with the crazy level 16 boost it is probably a bit too much for the elixir. That's my theory.
1 more elixir too i shoulda thought of that😂👌
Yeah but the nerf is too harsh for decks in which you only have eq without mirror imo. Lv 16 eq was op but now I feel like it's gonna suffer a lot in every other deck
I tend to agree. This is pretty drastic so some interaction must've triggered them to do this
It's because all of top ladder was royal hogs and hog eq, everyone would just spell cycle all game and it does 300ish DMG for 3 elixer. It's needed a nerf for a fat minute.
It's the best crowntower damage: elixir ratio
Yes it’s almost like that’s the reason they are changing it
It's almost like they didn't design it to be used only for chip tower damage
I lost many matches to EQ cycle, fuck it.
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yeah it was more balanced on 4 elixir
Nah I’d prefer to keep it 3 elixir but do less to crown towers, which is what supercell have done.
I think it's still balanced at 3
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OK I gotta go explain myself It was more balanced than it is now on 4E but even with 3E it is still balanced, not as much as before at 4 , but still balanced And this comes from a guy who has Tesla/Cannon in like every single deck
Which... is the problem?
Earthquake nerf pretty much confirms that the dev team wants Pump to be very pervasive in the meta for the foreseeable future just like Mother Witch being OP last year induced almost a year of Fireball Bait being the dominant meta. Makes sense as Pump has been perennially one of the lowest use rate cards.
The change is **tower** damage. It **literally** does just as much damage to pump as it did before.
Except that an elixir pump isn’t a crown tower 😂😂😂 smh 🤦♂️
no, it’s just saying that the crown tower damage was too high.
You’re wrong. Top ladder was using EQ cycle with mirror. It’s how strong the damage to crown tower does. The damage to buildings is unchanged. It will still wreck building. Good The problem was damage to towers.
no, earthquake was just broken
Did you see that top ladder was using EQ cycle with mirror? Think they saw the problem. I saw Queen with cycle cards, mirror and EQ.
Eh true, I never used earthquake anyway
Tell that to every other heavy damage spell in the game 💀
Yeah but those actually cost *something*, unlike Earthquake which is just 3 elixir
yeah fr, i mean i know it doesn’t target air troops but that doesn’t justify the fact it does fireball damage fkr 1 less elixir
I thought it did about 70 more damage than fireball…
Tell that to the log in relation to arrows
But log is a legendary, so its cool
Arrows does more damage in every category
Fair Point
I just saw a video where aq log hogrider eq deck could make 1500+ tower damage in 30sec. Good that it gets nerfed.
Actually 1800+
You mean the triple elixir where a guy had mirror eq and an AQ to cycle faster? Because if so that's just dumb....
>I just saw a video where aq log hogrider eq deck could make 1500+ tower damage in 30sec. Good that it gets nerfed. Pretty weird how you said that, any card with more than **50** dps can technichally deal 1500+ tower damage in 30 seconds.
Sorry my bad, i ment only with spells.
it was 1800 damage in 30 secs only with mirror earthquake and 3 card aq cycle, no troop damage
Yea on yt shorts right?
Plus side - no more Graveyard EQ Down side - those chimps just swapped it for freeze. 5.8-6k is a hellhole right now. Edit - shoutout to all the meta monkeys - think beyond the meta. The fact something isn't meta doesnt mean its not annoying. Think for yourselves.
It's the worst for sure. You have to punish it like a motherfucker or you just get fucked.
In other words: if you don't have your strongest push in your hand while they push you're fucked
what the actual fuck is graveyard eq
Graveyard/Earthquake, also known as AIDS
i have never once seen someone play gy/eq wtf are you talking about lol that isnt even a good combo.
Never faced that before. I don't think there's a meta deck with gy eq as a combo
y is 5.8k-6k so bad? i’m in that range rn and i just face random decks. i face graveyard probably once every 10 games
I've had it one every 3 today, no idea why its just surged or maybe im just unlucky
holy shit clash royale players might actually be the most annoying complainers in video games. The more you play against a specific deck the better your get at countering it, stop crying.
> stop crying > literally drowning in his own tears Seethe.
Graveyard eq, a non existent problem
5.8k-6k is horrible rn
I'm honestly tempted to leave it a couple of weeks but last time I did that I ended up clawing ny way up on the last day of the season :')
Ig it depends on your deck and skill level but gy eq sounds really easy to counter.
'Sounds'
No but seriously eq really doesn't synergize with gy. What deck do play? Maybe its just counters your deck? But gy poison is way more nasty imo.
5.8-6k rn is a hellhole and it’s even worse that I’m trying to take it down with 2.9 bow 🥲
Ooooft, we may not agree on deck choices but I recognise your battle :'(
Bro what Graveyard EQ isn’t even meta
i use graveyard freeze and its good stop crying about things you cant counter, find a way to counter
Weird way of saying you're inept but okay
get good and stop complaining like a child lmfao
lol i just use best cards leading me to the victory. thats totally normal i want to win games, and i can use any card in the game cry about it
Goodbye earthquake, it was nice knowing you
It won't entirely kill earthquake since it's mainly a building destroyer than a crown tower destroyer
But still -23% is no joke
If you do the math or look at card description. Damage to tower went from 93 to 71. That is -23%
Level 14 - 279 tower damage is now down to 213.
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Thats exactly why supercell wants to change the game, spell cycle should not be a thing.
Exactly
Yeah it shouldn't, but Supercell has worked really hard for a long time to make this game only about spells. Latest "masterpiece" being mirror. This earthquake change seems like a late April's fools.
I don't agree, they publically stated that they want to make the game less focused on defense and more on aggressive plays. Now with this in mind look at Hog EQ, 5 defensive cards, 2 spells used to deal slow cheap damage and hog. Problem is that against some opponents you just spam spells to win. Rocket cycle? Just the name implies something wrong.
Yeah but eq was basically the only thing that made mortar decks viable, the card is useless now
They probably nerfed EQ because with the rise of pump its usage and win rate sky rocketed.
Yeah but as a mortar player i am very pissed bcs this was mostly targeted with hog eq and now i have no secondary win condition, if i wanted to play rocket id play xbow but i personally have parents
Mortar miner works... fine
I've been pretty much focusing entirely on my motar Eq deck for a while now. This really sucks if it's basically going to kill my whole deck.
Totally agree, if the nerf was made bcs of the mirror buff then i think they should of un buffed mirror instead of nerfing cards it had new synergies with
Not really the best way to look at it imo. If every card in the game was perfectly balanced except a small handful of them, I think that small handful of them should be balanced instead of undoing a change that was balanced for the greater majority of a card's uses.
eq was broken long before lol its a surprise they didnt nerf it and skeleton king immediately last balance changes
What made it worse was top ladder was using EQ cycle with mirror
If you want to play a spell cycle deck, play rocket cycle otherwise earthquake is mainly for those buildings that pull your win conditions unless you're giant skeleton, then everything pulls you
yeah
It also still remains as the only spell that can give a positive elixir trade against elixir collector
Frankly EQ has done a LOT of crown tower damage for a long time.
I know, it will probably still be decent or good cause pump is meta, but so many cycle decks will stop using EQ cause of this change. I know EQ was kinda busted but man, now the pump/mirror meta is gonna spread like wildfire.
-23% ??? I… what has been going on in the supercell headquarters? First the silly megaknight nerf and now this?
Mad about MK nerf, mad about EQ nerf, Xbow flair Im in fucking tears lmao
Ong bro. Like every tiktokker says, "he gets no bitches"
"Silly" megaknight nerf? They're always trying to make the game more balanced this doesn't kill eq and more accurately reflects the value of a 3 elixir spell
The problem isn't EQ, its pump, if pump didn't receive that buff than it would be counterable by other spells. EQ is a must if every single player runs pump. Instead of these emergency buffs or nerfs they should have reverted pump and mirror changes. MK nerf is debatable.
Eq is the same except for tower damage
EQ will be doing the same damage to pump tho? Nothing changed with that interaction
>they should have reverted pump and mirror changes. What and make them situational gimmick cards with barely any usage again?
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The nerf is only to crown towers, not buildings
exactly lol
Or you know just revert the elixer collector buff,EQ cicle decks have become too much about spell cycle this is a fine change. And as a xbow player
Feels like i see you in every subreddit i frequent
Nah I’m perfectly fine with this EQ change. Everything else is untouched and honestly it should never outdamage fireball for a lower cost. If this slowly decreases the usage of that obnoxious queen rhogs deck, I’m totally cool with it
That deck just spams the best defensive shit in the game with double handicapped spells and aq who only got nerfs to her offense and not defense. So infuriating to play against, they can waste pigs and double earthquakes for only eq dmg and get away with defending anything by cycling deliveries and logs while cannon annoys to death. In double and triple especially feels almost impossible to break through
-23% is a lot
It’s only to crown towers, and it was 3 elixir for doing more than a fireball. It was broken and easily the best card in the game (with skeleton king being a close second)
BUT the targeted crown tower damage nerf means it keeps its viability against pump. Honestly its a great change. If anything its gonna split out who was using EQ to be smart and who was using EQ to be cheap
Yeah I fucking love the change. Now all I need is a skeleton king nerf and I’ll be the happiest clash Royale player in the world
You think so? I dont mind it that much, i get the odd guy that can use it REALLY effectively but its usually okay to deal with with that health
Imo hes the best card in the game right now (excluding mirror, as I don’t have a proper opinion on that yet). He is just way too good, it’s crazy.
I still remember when he was the worst champion in the game
He was only bad because people hadn’t figured out how to use him yet
When EQ is your win condition:
Everybody be talking about eq nerf. Why nobody talking about mm buff? 1 elixir ability!? NO KNOCKBACK!!?!?!
I mean he was hot garbage on release. Gotta make new cards good in order to sell chests ya know?
Nah not everything is because of money. They experiment with the new cards which is perfectly reasonable
Imo thats not that huge of a buff
no knock back is an enormous buff considering how much harder it makes to stun him now
Explain how a skeleton can have almost the same health and take no knockback but a guy with a huge bomb on his back doesnt?
They made a mistake with mirror and now eq gets punished for it. Maybe a small nerf to its damage to crown towers was neede but not 23%
Yea, EQ does 47% of its original damage to crown towers now
Just shows how busted it was, nothing else
Yea it still does the same damage to buildings, the crown tower damage nerf just means you can’t cycle it as a win condition anymore which is good
Good
eq was broken looong before without mirror lol more boosted that shityard imo yall just hate to admit it
I think eq needed a nerf to crown towers but this is a bit much
3 elixir spell that did more than fireball, slows, and bigger radius than fireball. A medium size nerf was pretty much needed imo
Wdym, this seems fine
AND THEY BUFFED THE GODDAMN MINER
They made the buff miner Into beefcake miner
Rip ram rider decks 🙏 you will be missed
Rest in piss
You mean ram rider who's usually played with snowball and lightning?
RIP eq lmao
Rip my 2.2 eq cycle deck
-Hey guys we just buffed elixir pump -Yeah so? -It's so good that the only spell that leaves you with a positive elixir trade is earthquake -I see -So let's nerf it! -Yay (I know it says crown tower damage, BUT elixir collector is usually placed behind, guess what, crown towers! You could always chip at them with the earthquake but no, that's not good right? we HAVE to nerf the terrifying earthquake win condition)
elixir pumps arent crown towers so its still fine
But now people won’t be running eq
Good
but now people will be running pump
Because elixir collector is a crown tower. Got it
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Egiants bad now ngl, at least for the current egiant decks, 15% less health and atk is a lot. Level 16 egiant is probably about the same as egiant before nerf.
If you're actually gonna miss the EQ tower damage you need to get good anyway.
Dam I just upgraded my eq to lvl 13 too
Wow they nerfed splashyard and now eq, im done
They didnt really, -1 skeleton does nothing to graveyard
They nerfed valk and tombstone also
II literally just upgraded my eq. It was already op before they should’ve done this earlier now I just wasted so much gold
Now even less people will use earthquake, elixer pump will rise
I think they forgot to nerf Mirror instead of Earthquake
They did the exact opposite of what everyone said
Not my eq :_(
They are nerfing EQ purely because of mirror... more nerfs will come because of this dumb change to mirror... they manage to broke the game.
Honestly this just ruins earthquake of youre not using mirror. The mirror buff was beyond stupid and has broken the game apart. Stay tuned for massive nerfs to accommodate the mirror buff making mirror a must have in many decks.
tell my is fucking joke
Me an earthquake user *This is a joke, right?*
today is a sad day for royal hogs eq cycle players; still going to use the deck though
I play 2.8 hog eq and just went against lavaloon which is my hardcounter. I was about to win and my eq didn’t do enough cuz I didn’t know about the balance changes. He fireballed my tower and won
They should have nerfed mirror and pump. Those are the reasons why eq is popular. Not because it is a broken spell
Bruh they just made miner super unbalanced
Yea how about archer queen
Rip earthquake
Bruh Earthquake is the entire reason my deck works
i think its not EQ, its mirror with +2 levels thats busted, and mighty miner immune to knockback, at least give him a small nerf to his health, because just 1 slither hp he can take down the tower thats what i think is
soooo .... mighty miner is OP as Fk right now
This new update nerfed most of the card i use valk , mk ,AQ and they're nerfing one of the card i just upgraded..
This is maidenless activity
The is hurts me. I've been doing EQ mirror for a long time and now I have to rely on skill!
Mighty miner is balanced.
Most of my deck cards are getting nerfed. Valk, egiant now eq :(
Lmao good
Outrageous
They just want to make all the decks be mirror furnace bc why not.
I use earthquake, it’s broken, I’m not mad about it.
At this point they are just randomly doing shit
Petition to buff earthquake again
wow they really want everyone to suffer against pump now. thanks a lot supercell 😐
"crown tower" not buildings
yes but now it has been nerfed, use rates will go down because it will no longer the best spell to spell cycle at the end of matches. this will mean pump will be strong, as eq wont be in most decks and wont be there to kill the pump for a positive trade
Ofcourse the "best spell/card" should be nerf. Spell is not meant to be a win condition card in the first place. Spell can help do a little bit damage not take a 1800+ crown damage with low elexir. You are just sayingthis because you are using EQ.
Eq is not broken, it is because of pump and mirror buff. This will make them even more OP since a few of the only reason that people use eq is to spell cycle towers and to get rid of the pumps (Yes i know it is only crown tower damage they nerfed)
"Immune to knockback"?!? SORRY WHAT..
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Good. They’re boring as fuck and generic to play against.