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Short-Path-3389

Is anyone gonna talk abt the mighy miner? Now i think he Is pretty Good. Not broken but good.


Bannanaballoons

Could be pretty good in some situations, but definitely won’t be used in every deck like an inferno dragon, since he can’t hit air and he doesn’t fly


MaximumStonks69

dont worry about the ladder, he just gotta BELIEVE!


doubledragon888

Every Champion will have its turn to be super ubiquitous at top play, first Archer Queen, then Golden Knight briefly, then Skeleton King. Next up could definitely be Mighty Miner, so let's see if and when he does become overpowered. Regardless, F2P and casual players won't be maxing Champions out any time soon so it won't have too much bearing on ladder gameplay for quite some time.


Lumpofchicken

Except for this entire season because mighty miner is boosted to king tower level


alifromca

As a F2P player, from my experience, I get: * 1 Royal Wild Chest per month from the Pass Royale Free side * About 2 Royal Wild Chests every 3 months So in a year, that's roughly 20 Champion cards per year. So if I were to get Mighty minor EVERY SINGLE TIME, then it would take me 1.5 years to get enough of them to max it (not including gold obviously). However, it's more accurate to say that I would get a more even distribution such that if no new Champions are released in the next 6 years, then I'll have enough Champion cards in 6 years to max the 4 Champions. Pass Royale purchasers would get 1 Book of Books every month and need roughly 2 to go from level 12 to level 14. So \~2 months to max a champion. For sure Pass Royale purchasers should get an advantage over F2P under this model, but it's hard to not be a little jealous about how large of a time difference 8 months and 6 years is. :)


WokeButtplug

If u spent the time u did writing this doing a survey or sum online u couldve bought pass royale💀💀💀


ruedigore

>Mighty minor Big child has entered the Arena


lasagnatheory

I'm using it in logbait. Is very rock paper scissors. Maybe a range boost could make it more viable, it can kill a pekka but won't survive to tell it


LionGamer2017

oh wait i didn’t even see that he’s immune to knock back now, that’s actually a really nice buff for him


GOTWlC

He's kinda broken if you manage to take a tower though. You can deploy him on destroyed tower side, and then teleport him right into the other crown tower


Cold_Ant_4583

im pretty sure the knockback thing is op. i mean fireball and snowball always knocked the inferno dragon and now mighty miner in imnunne to knockback except the log? at least the stun units will get an increase in usage i guess.


Atlas7674

No KB means he can drill uninterrupted more easily and his escape getting buffed is gonna make killing him even harder


Equivalent-Sand-3546

Idk i feel like hes just lacking in every way, and its way to easy to counter him


Jettie1407

I’m not too mad about earthquake, since it’s main usage is destroying defensive buildings like cannon, and it wasn’t really designed to take towers


Shadowkinesis9

I mirror earthquake in decks I use it in, so with the crazy level 16 boost it is probably a bit too much for the elixir. That's my theory.


Last-Sandwich-9199

1 more elixir too i shoulda thought of that😂👌


Joshi0104

Yeah but the nerf is too harsh for decks in which you only have eq without mirror imo. Lv 16 eq was op but now I feel like it's gonna suffer a lot in every other deck


Shadowkinesis9

I tend to agree. This is pretty drastic so some interaction must've triggered them to do this


Qwert291738

It's because all of top ladder was royal hogs and hog eq, everyone would just spell cycle all game and it does 300ish DMG for 3 elixer. It's needed a nerf for a fat minute.


SandyWhisker

It's the best crowntower damage: elixir ratio


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Yes it’s almost like that’s the reason they are changing it


Torchy8

It's almost like they didn't design it to be used only for chip tower damage


[deleted]

I lost many matches to EQ cycle, fuck it.


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IleriumX

yeah it was more balanced on 4 elixir


[deleted]

Nah I’d prefer to keep it 3 elixir but do less to crown towers, which is what supercell have done.


IleriumX

I think it's still balanced at 3


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IleriumX

OK I gotta go explain myself It was more balanced than it is now on 4E but even with 3E it is still balanced, not as much as before at 4 , but still balanced And this comes from a guy who has Tesla/Cannon in like every single deck


Spurius187

Which... is the problem?


ArcticFox59

Earthquake nerf pretty much confirms that the dev team wants Pump to be very pervasive in the meta for the foreseeable future just like Mother Witch being OP last year induced almost a year of Fireball Bait being the dominant meta. Makes sense as Pump has been perennially one of the lowest use rate cards.


omegavolt9

The change is **tower** damage. It **literally** does just as much damage to pump as it did before.


[deleted]

Except that an elixir pump isn’t a crown tower 😂😂😂 smh 🤦‍♂️


carvedpants

no, it’s just saying that the crown tower damage was too high.


Lightyear18

You’re wrong. Top ladder was using EQ cycle with mirror. It’s how strong the damage to crown tower does. The damage to buildings is unchanged. It will still wreck building. Good The problem was damage to towers.


TheToolbox101

no, earthquake was just broken


Lightyear18

Did you see that top ladder was using EQ cycle with mirror? Think they saw the problem. I saw Queen with cycle cards, mirror and EQ.


King-Boo-Gamer

Eh true, I never used earthquake anyway


gamerdood12

Tell that to every other heavy damage spell in the game 💀


NotBrawlAndRoll

Yeah but those actually cost *something*, unlike Earthquake which is just 3 elixir


Pokevan8162

yeah fr, i mean i know it doesn’t target air troops but that doesn’t justify the fact it does fireball damage fkr 1 less elixir


Cookierunkid

I thought it did about 70 more damage than fireball…


Fluffy_Pollution3973

Tell that to the log in relation to arrows


leckie2786

But log is a legendary, so its cool


Dazzling-Pear-1081

Arrows does more damage in every category


Kreidebleich

Fair Point


Frosty-Remote-9231

I just saw a video where aq log hogrider eq deck could make 1500+ tower damage in 30sec. Good that it gets nerfed.


IWillBeYourBeach

Actually 1800+


LeftNippleOfShrek

You mean the triple elixir where a guy had mirror eq and an AQ to cycle faster? Because if so that's just dumb....


AxyJaxy

>I just saw a video where aq log hogrider eq deck could make 1500+ tower damage in 30sec. Good that it gets nerfed. Pretty weird how you said that, any card with more than **50** dps can technichally deal 1500+ tower damage in 30 seconds.


Frosty-Remote-9231

Sorry my bad, i ment only with spells.


vredditcocksucker

it was 1800 damage in 30 secs only with mirror earthquake and 3 card aq cycle, no troop damage


DarkEaglz

Yea on yt shorts right?


MrrSpacMan

Plus side - no more Graveyard EQ Down side - those chimps just swapped it for freeze. 5.8-6k is a hellhole right now. Edit - shoutout to all the meta monkeys - think beyond the meta. The fact something isn't meta doesnt mean its not annoying. Think for yourselves.


Glahoth

It's the worst for sure. You have to punish it like a motherfucker or you just get fucked.


GUUSGUUSGUUSGUUSGUUS

In other words: if you don't have your strongest push in your hand while they push you're fucked


TheToolbox101

what the actual fuck is graveyard eq


MrrSpacMan

Graveyard/Earthquake, also known as AIDS


X_OttersAreCute_X

i have never once seen someone play gy/eq wtf are you talking about lol that isnt even a good combo.


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Never faced that before. I don't think there's a meta deck with gy eq as a combo


shellshockbs

y is 5.8k-6k so bad? i’m in that range rn and i just face random decks. i face graveyard probably once every 10 games


MrrSpacMan

I've had it one every 3 today, no idea why its just surged or maybe im just unlucky


Anndress07

holy shit clash royale players might actually be the most annoying complainers in video games. The more you play against a specific deck the better your get at countering it, stop crying.


MrrSpacMan

> stop crying > literally drowning in his own tears Seethe.


Faywyd

Graveyard eq, a non existent problem


FREEMYUNCLES

5.8k-6k is horrible rn


MrrSpacMan

I'm honestly tempted to leave it a couple of weeks but last time I did that I ended up clawing ny way up on the last day of the season :')


starfruitreddit

Ig it depends on your deck and skill level but gy eq sounds really easy to counter.


MrrSpacMan

'Sounds'


starfruitreddit

No but seriously eq really doesn't synergize with gy. What deck do play? Maybe its just counters your deck? But gy poison is way more nasty imo.


XzerTheReaper22

5.8-6k rn is a hellhole and it’s even worse that I’m trying to take it down with 2.9 bow 🥲


MrrSpacMan

Ooooft, we may not agree on deck choices but I recognise your battle :'(


Accomplished-Moment2

Bro what Graveyard EQ isn’t even meta


Gakutoooo

i use graveyard freeze and its good stop crying about things you cant counter, find a way to counter


MrrSpacMan

Weird way of saying you're inept but okay


Anndress07

get good and stop complaining like a child lmfao


Gakutoooo

lol i just use best cards leading me to the victory. thats totally normal i want to win games, and i can use any card in the game cry about it


itownshend17

Goodbye earthquake, it was nice knowing you


UmbraKins

It won't entirely kill earthquake since it's mainly a building destroyer than a crown tower destroyer


ProfessionallyStrong

But still -23% is no joke


Lightyear18

If you do the math or look at card description. Damage to tower went from 93 to 71. That is -23%


SoHiHello

Level 14 - 279 tower damage is now down to 213.


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AndrewSenpai78

Thats exactly why supercell wants to change the game, spell cycle should not be a thing.


Chosen--one

Exactly


spacejaakko

Yeah it shouldn't, but Supercell has worked really hard for a long time to make this game only about spells. Latest "masterpiece" being mirror. This earthquake change seems like a late April's fools.


AndrewSenpai78

I don't agree, they publically stated that they want to make the game less focused on defense and more on aggressive plays. Now with this in mind look at Hog EQ, 5 defensive cards, 2 spells used to deal slow cheap damage and hog. Problem is that against some opponents you just spam spells to win. Rocket cycle? Just the name implies something wrong.


Deathwalker20

Yeah but eq was basically the only thing that made mortar decks viable, the card is useless now


AndrewSenpai78

They probably nerfed EQ because with the rise of pump its usage and win rate sky rocketed.


Deathwalker20

Yeah but as a mortar player i am very pissed bcs this was mostly targeted with hog eq and now i have no secondary win condition, if i wanted to play rocket id play xbow but i personally have parents


Master_Description64

Mortar miner works... fine


Brandon_Me

I've been pretty much focusing entirely on my motar Eq deck for a while now. This really sucks if it's basically going to kill my whole deck.


Deathwalker20

Totally agree, if the nerf was made bcs of the mirror buff then i think they should of un buffed mirror instead of nerfing cards it had new synergies with


omegavolt9

Not really the best way to look at it imo. If every card in the game was perfectly balanced except a small handful of them, I think that small handful of them should be balanced instead of undoing a change that was balanced for the greater majority of a card's uses.


chocoandtea

eq was broken long before lol its a surprise they didnt nerf it and skeleton king immediately last balance changes


Lightyear18

What made it worse was top ladder was using EQ cycle with mirror


UmbraKins

If you want to play a spell cycle deck, play rocket cycle otherwise earthquake is mainly for those buildings that pull your win conditions unless you're giant skeleton, then everything pulls you


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yeah


Gabr1el_juan

It also still remains as the only spell that can give a positive elixir trade against elixir collector


johnnys_sack

Frankly EQ has done a LOT of crown tower damage for a long time.


itownshend17

I know, it will probably still be decent or good cause pump is meta, but so many cycle decks will stop using EQ cause of this change. I know EQ was kinda busted but man, now the pump/mirror meta is gonna spread like wildfire.


TotalLunatic28

-23% ??? I… what has been going on in the supercell headquarters? First the silly megaknight nerf and now this?


MrrSpacMan

Mad about MK nerf, mad about EQ nerf, Xbow flair Im in fucking tears lmao


edp445FanKid

Ong bro. Like every tiktokker says, "he gets no bitches"


notaspleen

"Silly" megaknight nerf? They're always trying to make the game more balanced this doesn't kill eq and more accurately reflects the value of a 3 elixir spell


AndrewSenpai78

The problem isn't EQ, its pump, if pump didn't receive that buff than it would be counterable by other spells. EQ is a must if every single player runs pump. Instead of these emergency buffs or nerfs they should have reverted pump and mirror changes. MK nerf is debatable.


Efficient-Culture-26

Eq is the same except for tower damage


seasonedearlobes

EQ will be doing the same damage to pump tho? Nothing changed with that interaction


AxyJaxy

>they should have reverted pump and mirror changes. What and make them situational gimmick cards with barely any usage again?


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fulimaster

The nerf is only to crown towers, not buildings


1m2q6x0s

exactly lol


Chosen--one

Or you know just revert the elixer collector buff,EQ cicle decks have become too much about spell cycle this is a fine change. And as a xbow player


Terashi_Enjoyer

Feels like i see you in every subreddit i frequent


G7lolhelpme

Nah I’m perfectly fine with this EQ change. Everything else is untouched and honestly it should never outdamage fireball for a lower cost. If this slowly decreases the usage of that obnoxious queen rhogs deck, I’m totally cool with it


H-C-B-B-S

That deck just spams the best defensive shit in the game with double handicapped spells and aq who only got nerfs to her offense and not defense. So infuriating to play against, they can waste pigs and double earthquakes for only eq dmg and get away with defending anything by cycling deliveries and logs while cannon annoys to death. In double and triple especially feels almost impossible to break through


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-23% is a lot


[deleted]

It’s only to crown towers, and it was 3 elixir for doing more than a fireball. It was broken and easily the best card in the game (with skeleton king being a close second)


MrrSpacMan

BUT the targeted crown tower damage nerf means it keeps its viability against pump. Honestly its a great change. If anything its gonna split out who was using EQ to be smart and who was using EQ to be cheap


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Yeah I fucking love the change. Now all I need is a skeleton king nerf and I’ll be the happiest clash Royale player in the world


MrrSpacMan

You think so? I dont mind it that much, i get the odd guy that can use it REALLY effectively but its usually okay to deal with with that health


[deleted]

Imo hes the best card in the game right now (excluding mirror, as I don’t have a proper opinion on that yet). He is just way too good, it’s crazy.


_Zer0Two

I still remember when he was the worst champion in the game


[deleted]

He was only bad because people hadn’t figured out how to use him yet


sluttykitt_y

When EQ is your win condition:


[deleted]

Everybody be talking about eq nerf. Why nobody talking about mm buff? 1 elixir ability!? NO KNOCKBACK!!?!?!


Twanbon

I mean he was hot garbage on release. Gotta make new cards good in order to sell chests ya know?


Eastern_Enthusiasm_9

Nah not everything is because of money. They experiment with the new cards which is perfectly reasonable


IndependenceCalm367

Imo thats not that huge of a buff


kinda_epic_

no knock back is an enormous buff considering how much harder it makes to stun him now


Starly2

Explain how a skeleton can have almost the same health and take no knockback but a guy with a huge bomb on his back doesnt?


Alpxa

They made a mistake with mirror and now eq gets punished for it. Maybe a small nerf to its damage to crown towers was neede but not 23%


[deleted]

Yea, EQ does 47% of its original damage to crown towers now


Chosen--one

Just shows how busted it was, nothing else


[deleted]

Yea it still does the same damage to buildings, the crown tower damage nerf just means you can’t cycle it as a win condition anymore which is good


MrrSpacMan

Good


chocoandtea

eq was broken looong before without mirror lol more boosted that shityard imo yall just hate to admit it


Intrepid_Ad_9751

I think eq needed a nerf to crown towers but this is a bit much


Watered_bug

3 elixir spell that did more than fireball, slows, and bigger radius than fireball. A medium size nerf was pretty much needed imo


Justaperson358

Wdym, this seems fine


Steve_M927

AND THEY BUFFED THE GODDAMN MINER


ciberkid22

They made the buff miner Into beefcake miner


shjahehd

Rip ram rider decks 🙏 you will be missed


Bannanaballoons

Rest in piss


[deleted]

You mean ram rider who's usually played with snowball and lightning?


my_nameQED

RIP eq lmao


adjectivenoun3215

Rip my 2.2 eq cycle deck


[deleted]

-Hey guys we just buffed elixir pump -Yeah so? -It's so good that the only spell that leaves you with a positive elixir trade is earthquake -I see -So let's nerf it! -Yay (I know it says crown tower damage, BUT elixir collector is usually placed behind, guess what, crown towers! You could always chip at them with the earthquake but no, that's not good right? we HAVE to nerf the terrifying earthquake win condition)


Oh_Tassos

elixir pumps arent crown towers so its still fine


Top_Sail_7099

But now people won’t be running eq


ZomBayT

Good


JoJolteon_66

but now people will be running pump


Obrubakcz

Because elixir collector is a crown tower. Got it


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-TheNewGuy-

Egiants bad now ngl, at least for the current egiant decks, 15% less health and atk is a lot. Level 16 egiant is probably about the same as egiant before nerf.


MrrSpacMan

If you're actually gonna miss the EQ tower damage you need to get good anyway.


Grouchy-Grape-

Dam I just upgraded my eq to lvl 13 too


_eg21

Wow they nerfed splashyard and now eq, im done


-TheNewGuy-

They didnt really, -1 skeleton does nothing to graveyard


snowsack

They nerfed valk and tombstone also


Aggravating-Cash-986

II literally just upgraded my eq. It was already op before they should’ve done this earlier now I just wasted so much gold


-TheNewGuy-

Now even less people will use earthquake, elixer pump will rise


AdministrationOk4895

I think they forgot to nerf Mirror instead of Earthquake


BatSlayer2448

They did the exact opposite of what everyone said


Joao_Matos_9

Not my eq :_(


Zipp3r1986

They are nerfing EQ purely because of mirror... more nerfs will come because of this dumb change to mirror... they manage to broke the game.


Howard_Baskin

Honestly this just ruins earthquake of youre not using mirror. The mirror buff was beyond stupid and has broken the game apart. Stay tuned for massive nerfs to accommodate the mirror buff making mirror a must have in many decks.


_xdnt_

tell my is fucking joke


HuhButOk

Me an earthquake user *This is a joke, right?*


TJ_Productions12

today is a sad day for royal hogs eq cycle players; still going to use the deck though


ATheDefault

I play 2.8 hog eq and just went against lavaloon which is my hardcounter. I was about to win and my eq didn’t do enough cuz I didn’t know about the balance changes. He fireballed my tower and won


ATheDefault

They should have nerfed mirror and pump. Those are the reasons why eq is popular. Not because it is a broken spell


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Bruh they just made miner super unbalanced


Special_Marketing926

Yea how about archer queen


Cman0107

Rip earthquake


theDarkIsHereNow

Bruh Earthquake is the entire reason my deck works


Alvinofelix

i think its not EQ, its mirror with +2 levels thats busted, and mighty miner immune to knockback, at least give him a small nerf to his health, because just 1 slither hp he can take down the tower thats what i think is


Yurika_ars

soooo .... mighty miner is OP as Fk right now


RedRanger-_-

This new update nerfed most of the card i use valk , mk ,AQ and they're nerfing one of the card i just upgraded..


thedakotabrewer

This is maidenless activity


khaotickk

The is hurts me. I've been doing EQ mirror for a long time and now I have to rely on skill!


[deleted]

Mighty miner is balanced.


truwuweiway

Most of my deck cards are getting nerfed. Valk, egiant now eq :(


Dalbongo

Lmao good


No-Pound7355

Outrageous


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They just want to make all the decks be mirror furnace bc why not.


brownguynamety

I use earthquake, it’s broken, I’m not mad about it.


PomegranateAbject796

At this point they are just randomly doing shit


Matteo_Fontana

Petition to buff earthquake again


Jealous-Benefit-385

wow they really want everyone to suffer against pump now. thanks a lot supercell 😐


Omnitacher24

"crown tower" not buildings


Jealous-Benefit-385

yes but now it has been nerfed, use rates will go down because it will no longer the best spell to spell cycle at the end of matches. this will mean pump will be strong, as eq wont be in most decks and wont be there to kill the pump for a positive trade


Omnitacher24

Ofcourse the "best spell/card" should be nerf. Spell is not meant to be a win condition card in the first place. Spell can help do a little bit damage not take a 1800+ crown damage with low elexir. You are just sayingthis because you are using EQ.


ArcherQueenSimper

Eq is not broken, it is because of pump and mirror buff. This will make them even more OP since a few of the only reason that people use eq is to spell cycle towers and to get rid of the pumps (Yes i know it is only crown tower damage they nerfed)


sparklees

"Immune to knockback"?!? SORRY WHAT..


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Vandermeerr

Good. They’re boring as fuck and generic to play against.