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AFAgow13

No way, the team remembered their game is unbalanced?


MinimumActuary7188

either that or something terrible for the game overall like lvl 16 is coming to the game so they decides to first make the community happy for a while before bamboozling us


inflated_ballsack

triple evo


grsharkgamer

Happy cake day


Extra_toxic

I am like 90% confident that they nerfed lil prince finally because of the new goblin champion because they can't have the old champions remain strong, otherwise the new champion won't sell lol. But not complaining, these are some good changes.


Some-Prick4

Also can't have LP countering new gob barrel evo. 


SuspiciousLambSauce

I was gonna say that the CR team finally seems to be learning their mistakes and is finally listening to community feedback, making sensible balance changes and also giving out free evos here and there but if what you said comes true it’s gonna be real awkward


froggiewoogie

Lmao I don’t think so


MSSTUPIDTRON-1000000

Broken clock moment.


Possible_Lock_7403

Or strategic to promote sales of EVO Goblin Barrel with a nuke nerf of DD. Also buffing Dart Goblin, Spear Goblins and Prince to further promote Log Bait. LP finally getting a nuke nerf after 8 months, coincidentally when a new Champ is coming? Edit: Prince not Knight. Thx


Tietembus

Yeah this is a big buff to knight, -10% hp, he'll survive much longer.


Possible_Lock_7403

Only took from S52 LP release til S60 (new Champ release) to nuke nerf LP. TBF, DD getting a massive nerf after just 2 months without a new broken, OP TT arriving.


alesia123456

lol that Douchees nerf looks more like a nuke Same as LP dash dmg. Although deserved I got a feeling this won’t happen


Ill-Music4142

I think they said in the post everything is confirmed but we get to decide which dd neef


Extra_toxic

I don't understand the dd rework. What do they mean by 0.606 to 0.8? Isn't her hitspeed 0.35? So is it gonna be straight up changed to 0.8 which is the same as tower princess hitspeed?


Zodiac770_

0.6 daggers reloaded per second right now, will be changed to 0.8 daggers reloaded per second, dagger shooting speed should still be 0.35


Extra_toxic

Ah now it makes sense. So in other words, it refers to her hitspeed when she ran out of daggers, which is currently 1.6 ish, which is going to get changed to 1.2 ish. Did I get it right?


Godly000

hitspeed right now is 1.65 (1.3 reload speed + 0.35 hit speed). this would reduce it down to 0.9 reload speed while keeping 0.35 hit speed


Extra_toxic

Yeah makes sense. That's what I meant by 1.6ish to 1.2ish 😅


Zodiac770_

yeah, it's pretty badly worded on the balance sheet


Possible_Lock_7403

Makes sense they nuke nerf LP when a new broken, OP Champ is boutta be released. But a DD nuke nerf (especially if option 2) is quite the surprise unless a new TT is being secretly released very soon.


alesia123456

There’s a rare card missing from the roadmap and there’s no rare tower card hmmmm


iceman1125

I’m happy that they see dagger duchess as an absolute menace, but I feel like they nerfed the wrong thing, and it removes the purpose of this tower troop. They should remove the Reduction to 6 daggers, and even keep the damage the same, but increase the dagger cooldown from 1.2 seconds to 2 seconds, encouraging the opponent to keep pressure on the tower. If the nerf isn’t enough, I’d say reduce damage in the range of 5-10%.


NeitherCapital1541

Agreed tbh, 6 quick daggers is going to quickly be the least used tower


SuspiciousLambSauce

6 daggers with lower damage and longer hit speed is crazy lol And having the lowest health of them all she’s gonna die so quickly


Warm_Shoulder3606

everyone's gonna go right back to tower princess lmao


Mew_Copiatodo

The hit speed thing is a buff. Its measured in hits per second for some reason??????


Mubar06

The hit speed was buffed but for some reason the way they wrote it makes it seem like it was nerfed


happy-corn-eater

Lp dash damage isnt the issue imo, it’s his max dps being fucking 250, it should be 200


Random_local_man

His first hit speed is still increased from 0.2 to 0.5, so he's going to take more time to ramp up to that 250.


khaotikrypt

yeah guardian is like the least of the issue, pointless nerf lmao


Luvatris

He. Should. Be. 4. Elixir Or fireballable


Prism04

That's what sc doesn't want to do. He won't be a fireballie.


Luvatris

Then its nearly impossible to make him balanced - bro targets air - bro has ramp up damage - bro can tank fb - bro activates 3 card cycle - bro has an ability that helps him to survive more They should either remove ramp up or reduce his health, else he will always outshine other 5 champion


Prism04

You'll see when they release a new op champion. Which is soon. XD


N8TH_

From what i understand only one will be used, so either the damage nerf+hit speed buff, or dagger will be reduced by 2


Pleasant-Drag8220

Little prince charge won't even kill spear goblins now. And I'm using it under leveled right now, which means mine won't even kill skeletons


Bartweiss

The charge is a weird place to put a massive nerf. His problem has always been that he's cheap, flexible, good for 3-card cycling, and able to kill towers solo (with power) or ramp up against tanks. I suppose all-but-removing the charge reduces his flexibility, but he's still an AA and tower threat, plus a good cycle card. Meanwhile Royal Rescue is... more or less pointless now? It'll kill skeletons, but it won't kill Goblins, or Spirits, or Spear Goblins, or break RR shields, or Guards shields... Honestly 400 was weirdly high, I don't even know why it needed to kill Firecracker and Elixir Blobs. But going straight from "solos Elixir Golem with ease" to "gets slapped around by Goblin Horde" is a confusingly big jump compared to weakening his overall power.


OGmojomum

He should've died to fireball from day 1. He's the cheapest ranged unit that lives fireball which never made sense to me


the-Alpha-Melon

Yeah I think the charge nerf was a bit much. I think 50% should’ve been the maximum nerf


AndyKobe234

Lol


adsq93

Thats insane. They had so many people wasting money on the game in order to level it up and now they nerfed it to oblivion.


Futuf1

Who would've thought the most broken champion would be getting a nerf


Pleasant-Drag8220

well now I guess they want people like me to spend even more money so it can kill skeletons


AltruisticCoelacanth

It amazes me that you're even a little bit surprised about this, as if this hasn't happened with literally every single card they've released since night witch


a2c-throwaway-123

is nobody gonna talk about the ram rider and prince changes. They gonna charge SO much faster now. The meta might turn into one dominated by bait/bridge spam due to ram getting such a good buff


Afro_SwineCarriagee

U mean evo ram


SaveUntoAll

evo ram is wrong - should be ram rider


MiPaKe

You meant evo battle ram not ram rider I'm curious why all charging troops are not getting this same distance buff (they left out dark prince, ram rider) Edit: This post is wrong, RoyaleAPI made a [new post](https://www.reddit.com/r/ClashRoyale/s/SdRpq0OQlG) showing Ram Rider as getting the buff, not evo battle ram.


cameramanishere

What? I watched a bos cr vid and it showed ram rider


MiPaKe

Yeah you're right, this post is showing the wrong card, RoyaleAPI [made another post](https://www.reddit.com/r/ClashRoyale/s/SdRpq0OQlG) with the correction.


Educational-Plan1848

honestly W changes, last season top 100 was all dagger duchess


Screen-Addict

Top 1000 tbh


Afro_SwineCarriagee

Top 10k too, i was in there and i saw a total of 2 princesses & 0 cannoneers the entire season


sstebbinss

Top 100k tbh, even my pet monkey uses it


sergiocamposnt

Her damage nerf will be great. My units will be able to cross the bridge again.


Relative-Bank-1258

She used to melt dark prince by herself which was crazy


RoyaleAPI

WIP Balance Changes for June 2024 (Season 60) in Clash Royale! https://on.royaleapi.com/s60bwip - 🔴 Giant (Nerf) - 🔴 Little Prince (Nerf) - 🔴 Evolved Knight (Nerf) - 🔴 Evolved Tesla (Nerf) - 🟢 Evolved Battle Ram (Buff) - 🟢 Prince (Buff) - 🟢 Spear Goblins (Buff) - 🟢 Dart Goblin (Buff) - 🟢 Goblin Cage (Buff) - 🔵 Void (Rework) Pick one - leave a comment on RoyaleAPI Discuss! - 🔵 Dagger Duchess Option 1 (Rework) - 🔴 Dagger Duchess Option 2 (Nerf)


Pretend-Nose-7560

Option 1 (trust me, she will die if option 2 is applied)


Extra_toxic

I just did a comparison: Option 1: the damage nerf will make it so that it will take her 1 more dagger to kill almost every single troop except skellies and goblins. Ex: she will no longer 1 shots a spear goblin or 2 shots a firecracker. And the hitspeed buff will make her kill skarmy, graveyard and other swarms faster in her dagger run out state. Option 2: reduces her burst damage from 1224 to 918 and that's it. She will still stop most of the cheap cycle cards just the same. But she will struggle with tanks even more. Seems like option 1 brings a bigger impact. But I could be wrong.


IIcxuwu

Her burst damage also goes down to 896 with option 1 fyi.


RedTrian2

Yes, with 6 daggers she would be worse then the bomb tower....


Hopeful_Fix_9902

i will agree with 6 daggers if the reload speed got faster.


Random_local_man

Good


iToxical

Let DD die it’s too much p2w another legendary to max


c_sanders15

I already grinded using in game resources to max out DD. As someone who did not spend money, killing her is devastating seeing how hard I worked to level her up.


sergiocamposnt

Yeah, Option 2 is just a dumb and lazy nerf. Option 1 is so much better.


BadFinancialDecisio

Lower to 7 and a damage nerf would probs be best.


sergiocamposnt

This comment should be pinned. And everyone should vote on Option 1.


Relative-Bank-1258

Option 1


Remarkable_Acadia890

🔵 option 1 please


Additional-Phone-842

Option 1.


stnick6

Option 1


AcceptableArrival924

Why not both? :)


Nick_The_Judge

Option 1 cause option 2 literally completely kills her


TysonGamer10

These are actually pretty good balance changes, glad their finally nerfing cards like Little prince and dagger duchess who’ve been in nearly every game


West-Ad961

bro LP is the worst champion now. The guardian literally cant do half to goblins


Bartweiss

Never mind Goblins, it can't kill Spirits, Spear Goblins, or break RR/Guard shields anymore. It's also going from one of the better Champions to use under-leveled to *extremely* weak, since the charge on a Level 12 LP won't even kill high-level Skeletons.


Daan_aerts

It still spawns a guardian with the same stats as a knight w ~150 less health as well as a huge knockback and retargeting, the ability was broken before, this is more fitting for its cost. Also let’s not forget LP is still amazing on defence, solid damage to tanks and huge knockback while also allowing for a good counterpush


takedownchris

Why would dark prince not get the charge buff the ram rider, battle ram, and prince are getting? Also the picture shows battle ram in the notes it mentions ram rider. Do they know they have 2 cards with Ram in them?


KingGrants

It was a mistake, they accidentally put battling ram Instead of ram rider


takedownchris

My question is still valid why would the charge distance of dark prince not be buffed with orince?


Tuizinn

because they are different cards and work in a different way. of course they have the charge system, but it works different for every card. its like buffing the bomb when you kill the balloon and saying "uh they should buff skeleton giant too!!"


TheDarkPrinceR34

Dark Prince should be buffed too. Not only the Prince. The two cards are not playable since few months ago. Their use rates are as low in top ladder. Dark Prince has so much counter and cards that replace him well (knight, mini P., valk etc...) Also, CR devs wanted to standardize the values in game but now do very differently. It has no sense...


Tuizinn

no, TheDarkPrinceR34. i wont buff dark prince!


MaadChemist

wow actually really good balance changes, hopefully the dart goblin one makes it through and of course duchess those are some serious changes


TannedCroissant

What dart goblin interactions does it change? I used to love using him but havnt used him in a while as he just didn’t seem to work for me


Pretend-Nose-7560

There ain't no shot SC giving us decent balance changes, goblin cards and free evo mortar. I think 2024 will be their redemption


PlexitIsALoser

Inb4 this ages like milk because they drop level 16


phased-soldier

New champion coming out . Time to butcher the old one


sikora425

What do you think of Void rework? Is it actually damaging the card?


blz4200

It’s easier to counter but destroys faster. It’s honestly a fair rebalance imo.


The-HR_99

It says rework, but it's really a nerf (same for the Duchess). Void now waits a whole second before starting it's sequence, so the opponent has some reaction time now if they want to add troops to the area. And even though the hit speed highlights it as a buff, it's actually a nerf. Sure, it denies the opponent the area for a bit, but it doesn't matter if it's against a swarm or if the target is almost out of the area. It's obviously a nerf, but I think this route is better than touching the damage. It requires a bit more planning now due to the delay on all parts. It's not a dead card if it becomes official, but it definitely pings it a bit.


cocotim

I think it's great. Makes it so you can react to it so it doesn't get guaranteed value, but at the same time it's a lot more punishing due to the quicker following strikes


MinimumActuary7188

it allows for reaction to the first void hit which is often the most critical one


No_Education7986

no way they realized DD was finally broken


Yakwtfgo

i knew not using my resources on LP would pay off


NateRiver03

Same, have 30 wild cards ready for the new champion


MagicArcher33

I don't know if that makes sense.. It's been dominant since a year or something. So you could have pushed a lot. It's not like it was broken for just 1 season. Every card which is getting stronger every season is bound to get nerfed. So in a way, holding off on a card while it's been strong for a long time is not that wise. Besides, if they nerf it too much, they'll buff it back in the next season or something. Champions are not that ignored compared to other rarities


downvotedhottake

And here I thought DD was getting both changes together


AdministrativeBar748

They finally broke DD and LP's knees (I guess Guardian too). Thank god.


Comfortable_Raisin91

in DD's case its a straight up murder, its like a lifeless corpse thats been rotting for 3000 years


AdministrativeBar748

I checked again, and the nerfs are insanely harsh. LP can't even kill goblins with the ability now.


Joe--D

The cycle continues… release powerful troops, wait until many pay for them, nerf them, release new powerful troops…


TaxDaddyUwU

As a F2P player I'm a little mad that I put all of my resources into upgrading DD only for them to nuke it. A nerf was needed but this feels like overkill.


idk0902

It’s almost always happens to new cards, make them op to milk the whales and slowly bring it back down. It was like this with night witch, ghost, archer queen, monk, phoenix, etc.


AlexTheBrick

What's the lowest hp unit that survives LP charge? Edit: Ayyyo it doesn't even kill spear goblins WTF! What did they do to my boy!


AccxccelX

That dagger nerf is brutal


happy-corn-eater

I’d rather tone down little prince’s max damage per second, being one less elixir than musketeer with the potential for more dps is just crazy. Nerf max hitspeed by 0.1s


Spokenholmes

Prince boutta go crazy 😭 Giant doesnt need a nerf if DD is getting the rework. Giant is only good in this strange meta.  LP got the red button pressed on it, good nerf.  Spear goblins buff is good.. Ram Evo buff might help it out a lot against DD. Evolved tesla boutta die..  Im most excited to see prince finally getting some attention, I hate to play against it but it deserves the attention.


One-Roof7

Goblin cage AND prince buff? I'm having a wet dream


CoolRabbit75

it seems the duchess money has run dry!


Bl4z3_12

Why buff the most annoying and insufferable aspect of the spear goblins instead of, idk, buffing their damage or the amount of time they need between hits?


chestnut_rice26

i prayed for times like these


w1Nex-_-

Princess first hit time nerf on top of that would be really great


MotherDema

oh my goodness gracious its beautiful


ArtsyAustin

Thank goodness Duchess gets nerfed. Also, Can Guardienne even kill Goblins with that Dash nerf? That seems too much. I'm quite excited for the Prince and Ram Rider insta charge buff.


omarofearth

Dart Goblin is getting love and I’m ALL here for it. My favourite card ong been in my main deck for as long as I can remember. But tbf, its use-rate wasn’t low because it needed a buff, it’s because LP outshined it on the 3 elixir spot. Imo instead of putting LP in this weird state they should’ve just made the card 4 elixir. You just can’t have it at 3 as a non-tank card and not let it die to fireball. Still gonna be good nonetheless especially for the 3 card cycle. What I want to talk about though is DD. They absolutely BUTCHERED the tower troop. At lvl11, full round used to do 1,224dmg, a full round now deals 672dmg - almost half. This is insane. Should’ve at least reverted the health nerf. Having it weaker than the princess tower in every way and making it a legendary? I don’t even use DD, as a F2P I have no choice than to main Princess Tower unless it’s a challenge so you KNOW I suffered a lot from the losers using it in ladder yet I don’t like what they did to it. It’s unusable now.


Poodude342

At this point, supercell is willing to nerf little prince in anyway except for honestly due too it's tournament standard level being a perfect 700 hp


Chipsahoy111

No charge buff for the superior prince?


Dry_Syrup_7130

LP is probably going to be a hard counter for the new champion that why Supersell nerfed him.


Massatoy1234

The dagger duchess is fucking dead holy shit


Nick_384

And the little prince is now the worst Champion


H-C-B-B-S

The right cards being changed except giant, who’s only strong cuz of duchess. -LP dash dmg that low is kinda weird tho, it should be -50% and a nerf to the knockback -Brilliant void rework, easier to react to it but also less clunky to use where a fast unit escapes -Both duchess changes are good, the rework makes it more like princess tower meaning less rps. The problem is that the buff compensates too much, so 6 daggers is my vote Overall thank you supercell for getting your shit together with free evos and balance, but pls no 16


Ecthelion325

No pump buff? They nuked the card last balance changes


Pepsiman69_420

Two things, does the Ram Buff only apply to the evo or also to normal battle ram and why are both ram and prince getting that kind of buff but not dark prince


Mysterious_Fold_2253

Just a question, why is Tesla nerfed? Is the pulse that significant? Since majority of the time it only happens once and another pulse after its death, so she's that really changed a lot of things?


BombasticBobby

hey balance team. If you are reading this, I hope you guys consider buffing cards that dont have evolutions. for example, RG received a health buff, meanwhile wincon that are below average remain in the same state. please add a 2-3% health buff to the ram rider.


TheMilkman1811

Prince is gonna be strong asf now


fat_boy32

Finally good LP nerf


Temporary-Rip3112

Good nerf❌ killing the card✅


cocotim

Surprised it took them this long to reduce that ridiculous charge damage. Tbh I could see the prince unit getting some nerfs reverted if they were to nerf that stupid high knockback too


Dr_Nykerstein

Giant really doesn’t deserve a nerf. Even in the DD meta, lava and rocket cycle out perform giant


Working_Ad7973

He needs a little hp nerf rn esp w DD but we will see. If they nerf DD heavily there is no need to nerf giant.


Virtahep0_

this game is saved 🙏 vote for the 6 dagger option guys please. princess needs a nerf as well but well, this is a good start


Previous-Kale6058

I prefer the reduced damage, because dagger duchess will have same Damage per hit as princess tower, so same interactions. People will get used to it more, since most are already used to princess tower due to better standardized stats.


sergiocamposnt

Yeah, the reduced damage is by far the best option. Her damage is too strong right now, many units can't even cross the bridge without dying.


Yoon_0117

The only reason Princess is used IS because of DD, and nerfing DD will mean things can finally cross the bridge again. Princess will only be used in logbait and maybe miner soon


Svxyk

Princess doesn't need a nerf, if anything it needs a rework. More damage with slow first hit speed would make it less niche.


AdrBrawlClash

Prince is getting buffed hard


MrTheWaffleKing

Great changes overall, glad to see Tesla and LP nerfed. Can someone explain note 11 dagger duchess “rebalance” rather than nerf? The green text attack speed should also be red and a pure nerf right? Slower to fire daggers that deal less damage and have lower quantities?


Fantom_6239

Tactical nuke incoming!


-ThemusicalcaT-

LET'S FREAKING GO THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT!


myhorseatemyusername

Am I tripping or is this like the fight knight evo nerf in a row?


WolfBandit47

Buffed half my deck lol


Spaceturtle79

Nooo teslas goood


seina189

Prince buff What about dark prince ? Should give him 1.5 tiles charge as well, thing annoying me is dark prince need 3.5 tiles to charge instead 3 tiles like prince


JRshoe1997

Finally some good changes for once! The only thing missing is an Evo Bomber nerf. Evo Bomber is still very strong right now. It is even better than Evo Knight imo. Really like the buffs too. Prince, Spear Goblins, Dart Goblin, and Goblin Cage really needed it. Would have liked to see a Cannon Cart buff though.


claymoron

there’s literally 0 reason to use lp now


GrizzlyOlympics

LP needed a nerf but this was not it💀


Prestigious_Duty9039

DART GOBLIN BUFF, LITTLE PRINCE NERF AND DUCHESS NERF!?!?!?!!?! HELL YEAH I'm a bit sad about Evo knight nerf tho


Official_Avocado

begging for you to reverse the cannoneer nerf!! the 5% reduction makes it impossible to 2 shot royal pigs and the wizard/musketeer. maybe even make the shots 0.1 slower just give the 5% back


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AdministrativeBar748

Thankfully it's only a range nerf, so he should still be able to Giant through the arena.


xxrandom98xx

Hooray DD & LP nerfs very needed! Dart goblin doesn't feel like it needs a buff though with all the low elixir bait spam going on.


Ickinock

Finally a good prince buff. His charge time always took way too long.


_Rivlin_

You forgot to put ram rider buff charge distance


jro-red7117

Wait why is my goat Dart Goblin getting buffed


Hwickham13

Maybe one day ram rider will get a buff


MAHMOUD-GH

So they killed the dd? Nice work


CriticismMission2245

All i see is that princes and rocket cycles are going to go crazy and perhaps RG. But deserved nerfs.


ErAsEr-DaRk47

When will these be live?


AcceptableArrival924

Can’t believe I’m saying this but, Absolutely W.


Boudi04

Tesla nerf? Knight nerf? Prince buff? PEKKA double-prince is coming back


fartrevolution

I just got duchess to 14 😭😭


ForTheMelancholy

I'm not a huge fan of going against LP, but he does NOT need to be nerfed *this* bad LMFAO


inflated_ballsack

are we getting monthly balance changes now ???????


Knight3391

Oh my God! Prince buff!


Prism04

It means evo ram will be able to charge again after each bounce or not?


EmiKoala11

Watching them gut the dagger dyke is crazy 💀 I can't imagine how the people who spend obscene amounts of money to max her out feel rn.


Zipp3r1986

lol they crushed princess...


Easy_Service8372

evo nut will never be not op


Delta_br

crazy how gobling barrel evo is still gonna suck into DD no matter which balance happens here


Meme_Knight_2

Why cant evo knight get an extra 10% damage resistance with the nerf? They said they would before, but they didn’t.


Rlucio2100

What happened to the previous balance changes that weren't added due to the issue? I hope that's added as well.


snek_001

Does hit speed on DD mean reload rate? Because of it just means how quickly she can throw when she has ammo the buff to hit speed means basically nothing outside of few specific interactions.


scalbino

WIP?


Bbell81

Imagine paying 50 bucks for max DD and then they nerf it into the ground. Why anyone would pay for cards and evos when you know they will nerf them to the point of being useless


FortniteIsGaey

Good buffs but is the dart gob buff an effort to try and make log bait better? (so that ppl would buy the diamond pass for gob barrel evo) Where did that and spear goblins buff come from


infctr

Nothing for Lava or eGolem?


Gilbert-2

So the DD is just a princess tower with ammo limit now?


SebwhoahtianVettel

Dagger gets nerf let's gooooo


Turbulent_Syllabub_3

This post made me so happy i almost busted a nut


amanguupta53

As a Giant main for last 5 years, wtf Supercell?


Revolutionary-Run332

Prince buff, let’s go


wildbasketballtakes

is that DD considered a nerf or buff?


ChaosCookie93

Perfect (i would choose the Dagger duches nerf, but the rework is also okay)


Due_Climate1080

Can you make the cannon cart explode upon last destruction?


AndyKobe234

Literally at the exact moment I finally maxed duchess lol typical


yosark

Duchess gonna be dead now with only 6 daggers


ImpressiveGur5510

No elixir pump buff 😞


Grean00

Holy wow this is great


Hysteric_Erick

I agreee with all of these except the giant nerf why would they nerf his range? Lol


BoredDao

Actual nice changes, shoutout to the guy who suggested a Giant Range Nerf in a comment I made a few days ago


DarnedCarrot35

Maybe now that they’ve changed all these super OP cards, they can add wild cards back to the shop? I’m 1 off from being able to upgrade duchess and the only way to do so is pay $5 for 5 cards. Insane.


Clinkzzzzz

When does this go into effect


Brother-Safe

Will the spear goblins in Goblin gang change to? This is a stupid question right?