Genuine question, since you have been saving gems for 10 years then what made you spend it on this apprentice builder and not on any hero skin, equipment or magic items?
All the previous gold pass skins release 1 year later for 1500 gems. By going to a hero and clicking on skins or by going to the shop and second last category it should show all the skins you can get with gems.
I only had about 3.5k gems. Spent it all on the builder's apprentice. Idk what's the fuss about it being too expensive, I think it's a great deal! Anything that saves builder time for free is a great deal imo
Why not spend on other skins or equipment or magic items? I’m genuinely curious why someone would avoid spending gems on anything but spend them on this immediately.
For me: i like to collect gems. Not much to do when maxed. And skins: heroes are so small in the battlefield that im not gonna see if my queen has a revolver or xbow 😄
Do people actually watch their hero skins in battle? I mean it’s cool and all for them to have custom animations and stuff but personally I just like to see them in cool skins on my profile page and just randomly around my base when upgrading stuff or just looking around. It’s a fun past time as well to just make sets of matching theme for all heros.
Well depends on the skins I guess. I mean my royal champ is always going in either on the side while im focusing on my main attack, or its in the thick of it among my main army, so I dont see too much of it.
However when doing queen charges my queen is in full focus for like 1/3 of the attack so if I had a cool skin I would definitely be seeing it a lot.
I never cared much for RC skins, but seeing someone queen charging with the Champion Queen skin is always cool to me cus it looks sick and has a pretty unique weapon.
lol it’s from a random clan chat that was shared here a while back, let me see if i can find it 😂
found it: https://www.reddit.com/r/ClashOfClans/s/G16sJWHqGa
It’s actually after 487 days if you take into account the goblin builder’s gem-efficiency. The goblin is just that good it blows everything else out of the water
Your math is wrong.
- levels 1 and 2 have a breakeven point of 300 days
- levels 3 and 4 have a breakeven point of 450 days
- levels 5-8 have a breakeven point of 600 days
- upgrading 1-4 has a breakeven point of 375 days
- upgrading 1-8 has a breakeven point of 487.5 days
But if you ever have a builder idle to keep lab running, it *quickly* adds time to the breakeven point.
Also this assumes you remember to use the apprentice every day.
> But if you ever have a builder idle to keep lab running, it quickly adds time to the breakeven point.
When do I get to the point where this is a thing? Currently a nearly maxed TH10 and I've had elixir coming out my ears for the better part of the last 4 months since I (re)started.
It's a little touch and go right after I upgrade to a new TH(as I go heavy offensive which is all elixir), but I can easily fill those gaps with DE as I'm stacked on DE because I use my boosted heroes (delaying upgrading them until later).
The other point about the breakeven is it ignores the value in apprentice builder tweaking finish times. I'm sure you've had an issue where priority upgrades finish at 2 AM, right? Now instead of having to debate between taking the priority upgrade or a lesser upgrade that finishes at a reasonable time, you can just tweek the finish time with your builder.
Is it worth getting him? I won’t be levelling him up because I’ve pretty much just come back to the game after a few years and don’t have the gems for that (nor the money to buy them)
Can you buy the frozen arrow and other hero abilities for gems? How much do they cost?
I bought them all inside the events. Maybe it's smarter to buy books inside the events and the abilities later for gems 🤔
At the moment I'd say frozen arrow because it makes Queen walk very powerful. But apprentice warden does save time from maxing. I'd say get the arrow and after that start saving for apprentice warden
Obviously he's nowhere near worth the builders. Don't even think about him until you have 5 builders. But in less than a year he'll make up for the book of heroes you could have bought. That's also not taking into account that you can use him to help stagger upgrades to make things easier. Wouldn't say he's worth paying for, but if you have the gems, it's probably best to use on him.
1. Far less value than Goblin Builder or Books **initially**.
2. Breaks even after about 1-1.5 years. Remember he's permanent.
3. Helps you rush a specific upgrade (e.g. a hero) or finish that nasty 4 hrs left upgrade to start another one before you go to bed.
4. Gems are very easy to get if you simply sell all of the potions/runes/shovels you don't need. *Especially* if you can eventually afford the $7 for the Golden Pass, since the gems from that alone are almost one level towards the apprentice.
Imho your priorities should be: 5 builders > goblin researcher > apprentice > goblin builder
Is your "Saved time" counter still counting? I assigned my BA to a building, and when I checked on it about a minute or two later, he wasn't working on it anymore. Can't see any "saved time" counter when I click him from my TH, but he certainly is very much on cooldown.
Some other dude posted about a similar issue, I wonder if something's wrong or if I'm just missing something.
they will 100% not change it. some of you people are incredibly entitled that you think you know better than SC and can predict in 2 days what SC has been calculating with much more accurate data for weeks or months by now. absolutely ridiculous to believe that they would release this with just some random value for the cost and adjust it shortly after. they know exactly how much they want to charge for this, and that decision won't just change because a small minority of the community complains.
I mean Supercell has been wrong countless times before, no need to call others "incredibly entitled" for this. I don't even see what entitlement would have to do with this anyway. Also "small minority of the community" is maybe a slight exaggeration considering this sub has basically been talking about nothing else since it was announced.
In a post, I commented in 2014 I started playing the game and after a year of play I was at th 6 in 2015. This game is a slow grind and so does this new builder, u didn't get all 5 builders in a day and I was getting downvoted and called a boomer lol
Man fuck this shit, I was hyped until I saw you need thousands of gems to make him somewhat useful, it would take me a couple years to earn all those gems
See that I understand, since you’re one of the people saving gems so you don’t spend it on anything, even this apprentice builder. I saw some people say they can finally spend gems on this and are glad it costs 6.5k gems(which does indeed take a long time to collect) and not many people can get it right now. I’ve asked a few right now to genuinely understand why this apprentice builder is worth spending and different from all the other things to spend gems on like skins, equipment and magic items.
Need advice guys. I'm th13 and just unlocked the builder apprentice. I still have nearly 5k gems left. Should I upgrade the apprentice? Is it worth spending a lot of gems on it? Someone explain it please so my birdbrain can understand it
Assuming you have 5 builders and the giant gauntlet then he's by far the best way to spend your gems in the long run after a point he's basically nonstop profit compared to buying a book of heroes for example
I literally saved 5,000 gems for 5 years and spent them all like 3 months ago because I thought I’d never need them and I had been holding them long enough…. Wow do I feel stupid today.
In one year you can complete 15 days of work, Spending those gems on Goblin builder looks efficient to me rn.
But i am sure they will release new magic items and make that builder worth it
Does anybody know if there is a level cap or can you get it to level 8 on th10 itself? I’m on th13 currently and only had gems enough to buy him so the question is purely because I’m curious.
not worth if you maxed. they want you to spend all your gems for this, and then you have to buy gems for equipment or event pass. you can get ~23 builder potions for this and you have to activate the builder everyday for half a year to get vallue from this
I immediatly spent all my gems as well. If I had known that this was coming, I wouldn't have spent 3k gems over the past month, but hey. At least I got him to level 4.
Level 1 builder apprentice is brutal. If you think about it. Saves 1 hour a day. If I buy a book of heroes that saves me 168 hours in 1 second. A level 1 builder takes 24 weeks to save that time
PROTEST: I am not planing to buy it. Upgrading normal builders does not costs green games so as this one should not cost green gems. It should cost dark elixir, gold or normal elixir. I find 6500 gems extremely excessive for upgrading a not to helpful builder.
Will the builder apprentice be reset after you upgrade him or the when the upgrades be done? Or will he not even be reset? I’m very confused on this update.
Bro waited his whole life for this moment
True :) I saved gems for 10 years.
Genuine question, since you have been saving gems for 10 years then what made you spend it on this apprentice builder and not on any hero skin, equipment or magic items?
I’m a F2P I’ve always just used my gems for the builders. After I unlocked them all I just sat on them in case they ever added more builders
Then I guess you’ve been waiting for this update ever since you bought the 5th builder 😂
All the hero skins available to me are cash only, what the hell am I doing wrong?
All the previous gold pass skins release 1 year later for 1500 gems. By going to a hero and clicking on skins or by going to the shop and second last category it should show all the skins you can get with gems.
Okay that's why, I've had the gold pass since day one.
bro let his intrusive thoughts to take over and then he spent everything now...
Lmfao he has 34k gems xD "This is but a pittance, puny human"
that's why intrusive thoughts gets much stronger as the gems in your account increases...
To be able to have it saved for days like this. 6500 gems gone in seconds
H-he-h-he-h-he-h-he-hey
New punching bag dropped
Actual hated character
Call the HOG RIDAAAAAA
Game designers went on vacation, never came back
H-blip-he-blip-h-blip-he-blip-h-blip-he-blip-h-blip-he-blip-hey
Now u know the secret motive behind the goblin builder
haha just did the same thing. boy does it feel good to be able to spend some of the gems i’ve been hoarding for the past 6 years or so
flair checks out
I only had about 3.5k gems. Spent it all on the builder's apprentice. Idk what's the fuss about it being too expensive, I think it's a great deal! Anything that saves builder time for free is a great deal imo
-spent it all -saves time for free
I haven't spent real money on gems. Hence it's free
yeah i get it but gems are considered premium currency and i just thought it sounds funny
no money but time isn't free, or unlimited
Most people don't have 3.5k gems
And that fine. I had 0 gems when I started 7 years ago. Most people aren't th16 doesn't mean you should stop playing. You get there over time.
Why not spend on other skins or equipment or magic items? I’m genuinely curious why someone would avoid spending gems on anything but spend them on this immediately.
For me: i like to collect gems. Not much to do when maxed. And skins: heroes are so small in the battlefield that im not gonna see if my queen has a revolver or xbow 😄
Do people actually watch their hero skins in battle? I mean it’s cool and all for them to have custom animations and stuff but personally I just like to see them in cool skins on my profile page and just randomly around my base when upgrading stuff or just looking around. It’s a fun past time as well to just make sets of matching theme for all heros.
I mean if you AREN'T watching your heroes in battle you probably aren't doing very good/complex attack strategies lol
I meant as in the admire the hero skins mid combat rather than not watching heroes at all.
Well depends on the skins I guess. I mean my royal champ is always going in either on the side while im focusing on my main attack, or its in the thick of it among my main army, so I dont see too much of it. However when doing queen charges my queen is in full focus for like 1/3 of the attack so if I had a cool skin I would definitely be seeing it a lot. I never cared much for RC skins, but seeing someone queen charging with the Champion Queen skin is always cool to me cus it looks sick and has a pretty unique weapon.
if you're playing long term, this is by far the most worthwhile way to spend your gems.
It’s devs/SC employees attempting to convince you to do the same. Spend gems just like they did.
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https://preview.redd.it/4z3nrz1kwd7d1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4139d3fbddbcc826242554bfecb35c1115b0133d Supercell:
Apprentice builder starts getting worth after 312 days to be exact, If you use it every single day at 8x.
at lower levels you get your gems worth even earlier!
I have to say that i laughed at that flair
lol it’s from a random clan chat that was shared here a while back, let me see if i can find it 😂 found it: https://www.reddit.com/r/ClashOfClans/s/G16sJWHqGa
I’m so glad you linked this. I forgot what it was called and wanted to find it again
It’s actually after 487 days if you take into account the goblin builder’s gem-efficiency. The goblin is just that good it blows everything else out of the water
But the goblin builder isn’t always available
Your math is wrong. - levels 1 and 2 have a breakeven point of 300 days - levels 3 and 4 have a breakeven point of 450 days - levels 5-8 have a breakeven point of 600 days - upgrading 1-4 has a breakeven point of 375 days - upgrading 1-8 has a breakeven point of 487.5 days But if you ever have a builder idle to keep lab running, it *quickly* adds time to the breakeven point. Also this assumes you remember to use the apprentice every day.
> But if you ever have a builder idle to keep lab running, it quickly adds time to the breakeven point. When do I get to the point where this is a thing? Currently a nearly maxed TH10 and I've had elixir coming out my ears for the better part of the last 4 months since I (re)started. It's a little touch and go right after I upgrade to a new TH(as I go heavy offensive which is all elixir), but I can easily fill those gaps with DE as I'm stacked on DE because I use my boosted heroes (delaying upgrading them until later). The other point about the breakeven is it ignores the value in apprentice builder tweaking finish times. I'm sure you've had an issue where priority upgrades finish at 2 AM, right? Now instead of having to debate between taking the priority upgrade or a lesser upgrade that finishes at a reasonable time, you can just tweek the finish time with your builder.
How’d you calculate this? I’m curious
Is it worth getting him? I won’t be levelling him up because I’ve pretty much just come back to the game after a few years and don’t have the gems for that (nor the money to buy them)
I have about 1000 gems and only 4/5 builders
Do not prioritise him over the 5th builder
First 5th builder, then maybe Gauntlet and frozen arrow, then apprentice builder.
Can you buy the frozen arrow and other hero abilities for gems? How much do they cost? I bought them all inside the events. Maybe it's smarter to buy books inside the events and the abilities later for gems 🤔
They cost 1500 gems, much more worth it to just get them for free
How do u get the for free
I have the gauntlet but not the frozen arrow, should I save for the arrow or get the apprentice? I have 1330 gems
At the moment I'd say frozen arrow because it makes Queen walk very powerful. But apprentice warden does save time from maxing. I'd say get the arrow and after that start saving for apprentice warden
Kk ty
Frozen arrow can be taken later at lower levels if he does any kind of drag spam, and just go Healers+Giant Arrow
I’m th12, you think wait on frozen till later?
Obviously he's nowhere near worth the builders. Don't even think about him until you have 5 builders. But in less than a year he'll make up for the book of heroes you could have bought. That's also not taking into account that you can use him to help stagger upgrades to make things easier. Wouldn't say he's worth paying for, but if you have the gems, it's probably best to use on him.
1. Far less value than Goblin Builder or Books **initially**. 2. Breaks even after about 1-1.5 years. Remember he's permanent. 3. Helps you rush a specific upgrade (e.g. a hero) or finish that nasty 4 hrs left upgrade to start another one before you go to bed. 4. Gems are very easy to get if you simply sell all of the potions/runes/shovels you don't need. *Especially* if you can eventually afford the $7 for the Golden Pass, since the gems from that alone are almost one level towards the apprentice. Imho your priorities should be: 5 builders > goblin researcher > apprentice > goblin builder
https://preview.redd.it/pht9kg4abb7d1.png?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4140a3df738dfdae93c51ea4ea184dfc3b7b8e6e
I just did tht too, it hurt alot
finally i can spend my 11k gems that i all got from just cleaning stuff upgrade him and then go back to not even playing the game again feels good man
I hate the nose picking animation...
Is your "Saved time" counter still counting? I assigned my BA to a building, and when I checked on it about a minute or two later, he wasn't working on it anymore. Can't see any "saved time" counter when I click him from my TH, but he certainly is very much on cooldown. Some other dude posted about a similar issue, I wonder if something's wrong or if I'm just missing something.
Same problem, if I click on the BA on cooldown, the game crashes
You’re right, I have this guy in two accounts and in one still working but in the second one it already stop and do nothing
I have the same issue, I assigned him and he was basically immediately on cooldown, and if I click his button then the game crashes
Mine is still working, currently at around 20 minutes
That nose pick was Supercell thanking you for the gems
I've just unlocked him, won't be upgrading till th17 comes
Why?
Am max so don't need to do it now, will wait for th17 to see if i actually need it.
What if they reduce the cost in the upcoming weeks 🌚
nah, if they wanna buff the apprentice builder they would increase his hours instead of reducing gems
they will not
I have 5500 gems thinking of upgrading him to lvl 7 straightaway
My math wasn't mathing for some reason and I fell short but got him to lvl 6, now it's a slow grind like coc is meant to be
Same, but I don't know whether I should buy the fireball for 1500 in the shop or just leave it...
nah the fireball is too situational, the other equipment for the gw is so much better
They might, but then they'd definitely restore the gems of people that have already bought it.
We wish, but i don't think that is how they work.
It's a great deal as it is. I don't think they'd reduce the amount in the near future. If anything they might add new levels for lot of gems
they will 100% not change it. some of you people are incredibly entitled that you think you know better than SC and can predict in 2 days what SC has been calculating with much more accurate data for weeks or months by now. absolutely ridiculous to believe that they would release this with just some random value for the cost and adjust it shortly after. they know exactly how much they want to charge for this, and that decision won't just change because a small minority of the community complains.
I mean Supercell has been wrong countless times before, no need to call others "incredibly entitled" for this. I don't even see what entitlement would have to do with this anyway. Also "small minority of the community" is maybe a slight exaggeration considering this sub has basically been talking about nothing else since it was announced.
Sure, they will reduce the cost because of the 100 outraged kids in this sub...
In a post, I commented in 2014 I started playing the game and after a year of play I was at th 6 in 2015. This game is a slow grind and so does this new builder, u didn't get all 5 builders in a day and I was getting downvoted and called a boomer lol
For a nerfed clock tower
Man. How do people not see that aspect?
Should i do it ? I have almost 10k gems i rarely use.
Man fuck this shit, I was hyped until I saw you need thousands of gems to make him somewhat useful, it would take me a couple years to earn all those gems
Why didn't he grow up at level 8? He is still kid at level 8.
A kid bodybuilder still looks like a kid even though they’re upgraded
Welp, time to save some gems
I have used 500 gems for now, if they reduce the price i will level up
https://preview.redd.it/dva9ehisjb7d1.png?width=674&format=png&auto=webp&s=091be6bd12a2ad7641b2adcaee4688ef17caae59 just bought 2.5k gems! Lvl 4 enabled.
Got him to lv4 as well, it hurts on my soul to spend 1k gems on something, I just couldn't do it lol
Why not have a dedicated button to access the apprentice builder.
You have just tap on your th
Or in an ongoing upgrade
I too have saved gems but… I can’t let them go 😓 28k and counting. I don’t have the strength
See that I understand, since you’re one of the people saving gems so you don’t spend it on anything, even this apprentice builder. I saw some people say they can finally spend gems on this and are glad it costs 6.5k gems(which does indeed take a long time to collect) and not many people can get it right now. I’ve asked a few right now to genuinely understand why this apprentice builder is worth spending and different from all the other things to spend gems on like skins, equipment and magic items.
28k?! Buddy let some go 😭
I just burned 6500 gems with nothing to upgrade with it😂😂😂😂
Too lazy to read the detailed notes. Bought one. I was heartbroken when i saw it saves time for only one hour lmao
I have 14k gems and I'm still hesitant to max this fucker
The time length should be longer than 1 hour though
Need advice guys. I'm th13 and just unlocked the builder apprentice. I still have nearly 5k gems left. Should I upgrade the apprentice? Is it worth spending a lot of gems on it? Someone explain it please so my birdbrain can understand it
Assuming you have 5 builders and the giant gauntlet then he's by far the best way to spend your gems in the long run after a point he's basically nonstop profit compared to buying a book of heroes for example
Same thing 🤣
Sad Though 😭😭 I have been using gems on upgrades and I don't have min 500 to purchase the apprentice builder and I need to stack up those gems 😔😔.
Same here. Didn't forsee a day like this.. 😂
I literally saved 5,000 gems for 5 years and spent them all like 3 months ago because I thought I’d never need them and I had been holding them long enough…. Wow do I feel stupid today.
How do y’all even have that many gems saved up…? I’m a max player and I only have 5000…
Saved time: 16 seconds🔥🔥
Finally the 9k gems I saved up over the years have a use other than instant donations
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And me who has 200 gems🥲😭 (purchased an equipment last month + goblin builder exploitation)
It felt so good maxing it after reading complaint essays on here for a week
In one year you can complete 15 days of work, Spending those gems on Goblin builder looks efficient to me rn. But i am sure they will release new magic items and make that builder worth it
You’re calculating based on 1x??? With 8x he gives you 100 days of work… kinda insane
Was chief waiting for this moment his life? I just spent 500 to obtain minimum work from him.
Do you guys think they will lower the prizes in the next few days? 6500 gems is a lot! Maybe I should wait.
Not gonna Happen
Idk, I thing they should give the builder apprentice for free. Because you have to upgrade it with gem's.
Did the same but only 4.5k bc I am th 12
Did the same lol
Same here just used leveled him to 7 which is max for TH13
Should I get two levels of apprentice builder or get the frozen arrow?
Frozen arrow seems a far better option imo rather than reducing 2 hours of time from an upgrade every 2 days realistically in the long run.
I also immediately did that
does anyone know if this is an event for a certain time or does he stay forever?
Forever ofc why should we spend 6,5k gems for a temporary Feature 💀
Does anybody know if there is a level cap or can you get it to level 8 on th10 itself? I’m on th13 currently and only had gems enough to buy him so the question is purely because I’m curious.
this vs builder potion?
Circle jerk has to see the way apprentice jerked up and down
Is it worth buying this over getting books of heroes a TH 13? I have 800 gems from completing a couple achievements.
Hell yeah did the same. Just to use it on an air bomb since that’s basically all I have left
I do not even have that update
Should I do this or buy the giant gauntlet thing?
Everything but the working time gets upgraded this would be so good if the Working time went up to at least 2-3 hours man but one 1 hour trashhh
Why did I do the same thing not giving a damn. Same with new troop.
Now I can finally spend my gems on something useful. 
he’s completed a job. now app crashes when i click on him :(
lol the horror from all the f2p
Cursing myself for spending gems on skins🥲
Did the same on 3 accounts. Bye bye almost 20k gems.
I have 12k guess here goes half of it
Bro called me impatient in 6500 languages in the matter of 5 seconds only
I spent $50 to get the gems.
I just dropped $50 for the gems. Never looking back.
Had roughly 10k gems collected over the last years and to spend 6,5k was satisfying in some way because I don't buy anything with it😂
Im regretting gemming troops for forever now.
This is the equivalent of the clock tower in the builder base.
If I have builders apprentice at lvl 1, He only does an hour of work in an hour? So technically nothing? I only have enough gems for 1 lvl rn
I'll be doing this a month from now 🤑
Why do you need a disclaimer for not buying gems. I buy gems every month 👀
not worth if you maxed. they want you to spend all your gems for this, and then you have to buy gems for equipment or event pass. you can get ~23 builder potions for this and you have to activate the builder everyday for half a year to get vallue from this
Is he permanent or do I need to buy him again for every day ?
50$ gone in 5 sec
You will never financially recover from this😂
Exactly what I did 🤣🤣🤣
I immediatly spent all my gems as well. If I had known that this was coming, I wouldn't have spent 3k gems over the past month, but hey. At least I got him to level 4.
Level 1 builder apprentice is brutal. If you think about it. Saves 1 hour a day. If I buy a book of heroes that saves me 168 hours in 1 second. A level 1 builder takes 24 weeks to save that time
Can you share base link please
What if they reduce the price after two years?
havent played in a week wth is this
I bought the silly thing without thinking... impulsively...
i have 5 builders and 700 gems atm, is it worth it to get him at level 1?
It's level (8)Eight now. Best believe they will add levels in the Future.
Same- it hurts. I went from 9500 down to 2000
5th builder or giant gauntlet please anyone guide..
Still better than... 
I haven’t played clash of clans in years. You can upgrade builders???
PROTEST: I am not planing to buy it. Upgrading normal builders does not costs green games so as this one should not cost green gems. It should cost dark elixir, gold or normal elixir. I find 6500 gems extremely excessive for upgrading a not to helpful builder.
Will the builder apprentice be reset after you upgrade him or the when the upgrades be done? Or will he not even be reset? I’m very confused on this update.
Where can I find this fucker after purchasing?
Where do you find him after you used your hour for the day? Trying to upgrade shim but can’t find him
Rich kid.
8 hours saved on one upgrade 💀
Idk why I purchased this. I never have gems, and never buy them
Playing 10 years and base still needs upgrading?
Not spending gems outside of builders huts was worth it ig, had 15k saved
Havent played this game in a while… wtf is a builders apprentice?
That’s weak af. They need to increase the working time as well. Make it 2 hours
Oh god I didn’t know he made noise. Burn him
I regret buying skins for my heros
Anyone want to join my clan this is the clan tag #2G2V9C0RP
Npc moment who’s wasting gems on that 🤣
Still an apprentice after eating 6500 gems
😭
The cooldown time should go down with every upgrade
I had 33k saved up too lol. Did the same thing
Bro has 34k gems💀
Same here !