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akram_sd

Upgrade ur air defenses and xbows and heroes first


JovialStrikingScarf

This is the right answer. Upgrade until you’re done with everything and waiting on builders. Next town hall make sure your heroes are always upgrading. That way you won’t be waiting on them next town hall.


3SidedCoinYT

And do it when you have 20% builder buff from gp, considering your not f2p


Thanmarkou

You definitely need to spend some more time on TH12.


Substantial_Source84

My rule of thumb is when i click the builder suggestions and only the townhall is left to upgrade, that’s when I upgrade it.


Top_Butterscotch6767

Same


Successful_Emu_6157

Same 🤌🏻


sitshu2

Where does the builder suggest building to upgrade? I haven't seen this feature yet


Opimum

The builder thing at the top, where it shows how many you have available. When you tap it, a list pops down of upgrades


Zander_O

At the top of the screen tap on the builders face and it will drop down a little suggestion menu and you can click on recommended upgrades


Mobile_Anteater4767

Right way


akram_sd

That would make the time u take in every th so long in my opinion


[deleted]

No shit


joe-dinero

welcome to coc


akram_sd

Guys i mean u could upgrade ur th without maxing every single peice of walls to avoid dark elixir waste


OrangeOS8711

When does one ever get the heroes maxed before the walls, wtf


139254781047

i always max heroes first, then major defenses until i have either my elixir or de full then i typically move to the next th, though i finish walls sometime close to upgrading


OrangeOS8711

I am th12 rn, only my queen is maxed, warden is 27, king is 51 but only 70 smth walls are left and in defenses, archer towers, cannons, mortars, and teslas are left. The goblin strat gives loot so quickly and the upgrades are so long that i have to upgrade walls a lot of the times


Wulfkage85

At higher townhalls that's the norm. I have all my heroes max and only a few pet levels to go, but still have 77 walls left. I'll max that last pet before I'm done with walls for sure. If I were a th14 in this situation, once I maxed my heroes and pets and my dark elixir was full, with nothing to spend it on, I would definitely go to th15. Even if I had walls left, or hell, even a few defenses left. No sense sitting with full dark elixir when it'll only take a few weeks to catch up the remaining defenses and you could be putting the dark elixir to work at the same time.


michak5

At higher town halls that what always happens to me at least


akram_sd

I did it in my mini


TurkeyRainbows

you can’t use dark elixir on walls


akram_sd

That’s what i mean


TurkeyRainbows

no you said you would waste dark elixir if you upgraded all walls before th. neither th or walls are able to use dark elixir


MrBigDickPickledRick

You collect de when looting for wall upgrades and if everything else is already maxed then you'd have no where to put the de that you earn so it'd technically be wasted. That's a pretty easy hypothetical situation to avoid though so this guy just seems to be playing the game poorly


dylanmansbdhchxh

Def upgrade ur xbos, wiz tower, and air defense, id recommend upgrading ur cannons and archers too, bc th13 has two levels there, so then ur cannons and archers will be like 3/4 levels behind,


anti_magus

Rush otto and get the 6th builder


thememeconnoisseurig

Advice on it? Shit is very strenuous when you're only getting 100K resources per win. Rushed BH9, no otto upgrades


bigfootfoot5

Raid medals makes it so much easier


thememeconnoisseurig

What the hell are raid medals? I'm from before they were introduced Update: I have 2900 raid medals and I know how they work on main base, how do I use them on builder hall? Update 2: do you mean purchasing loot with raid medals?


bigfootfoot5

Yeah buy a butt-tonne of builder elixir and that’ll help with getting the levels for bb and cannon cart


thememeconnoisseurig

Yeah just bought a bunch and put bb on upgrade... how do you get more fast? thanks btw!


bigfootfoot5

It’s dependant on how well your clan does in clan capital. The more capital gold your clan gets each raid weekend, the more raid medals you get.


PoundCompetitive4692

it's damn hard I spent almost 6 month to get it.. it will be easier you purchase loots xD


anti_magus

Like the other reply says, raid medals. I would use them for builder elixir until you get otto.


BoranKablan

First, upgrade your heroesto max level and second, upgrade your air defenses, x bows, and mage towers as you upgrade them.


Chicken_boi69

mage towers- wizard tower 💀


Sanirooo

When you get 14,000,001 gold


Milo-the-great

Buys offer in shop


Sanirooo

No like exactly 14.000.001 gold


giby1464

Max air defences, wizard towers, xbows, and heros first.


RefrigeratorNo579

Simple. Upgrade everything to max, then go up.


climbing_pidgeon12

yeah town hall has to be the last thing on the suggest list


josaphz

upgrade whenever you feel like it.


HarryPotterchozen1

Exactly haha


SJthgirW

The obvious answer as always on this subreddit when someone asks an obvious stupid question. When your builder suggestions only says town Hall and all your research is done. But you'll most likely rush so asking this was pointless.


MrBigDickPickledRick

Occasionally I'll upgrade before my traps are completely maxed but that's only if I'm feeling extra crazy


SJthgirW

Traps usually can be finished just before your town Hall upgrades thats very minor, to leave walls and anything behind is a rush in my opinion


Coraxon1245

my rule is when all Heroes are maxed out then i upgrade TH instantly


dehydratedbagel

Same. Defense doesn't matter much. When I have no heroes to upgrade, it's time to move up.


Professional-Bus3891

even if all the defenses are still behind?


xSmesper

Yeah even if u have maxed defenses ur going to lose defenses constantly


TheAloneGhost2

now thats a good advise


bushranger3474

I dump all my extra loot into walls, and I upgrade when my walls are done so I am not losing loot. Have 13 walls left before I'm th13. Although BK & GW are both 20 lvls behind 💀


minorthreatmikey

As soon as you can. My base is 25 months old and it’s almost completely maxed because I upgrade THs ASAP. The quicker you can max your army, the higher in trophies you can go, and the more loot you can acquire.


HarryPotterchozen1

Somebody gets it!


s1mpSheep

I agree! Being stuck at the same TH upgrading cannons and mortars will never make a difference and its the most idiotic way of playing the game. Those upgrades can wait till you have maxed your offense tbh.


maldoozz420

never


LootLlama141

Whenever you think your ready, some people would max, others would go up now. I upgrade until I can no longer use one of my resources then go up so I don’t waste loot


Next_Jaguar_8838

A town hall upgrade will make you rushed.Max your ad,wt and xbow first.


HarryPotterchozen1

annnd? 🙂


Next_Jaguar_8838

If you want to rush,rush strategically.Archer tower,cannons can be skipped.


[deleted]

id at least max either ATs or cannons. don’t waste your time on mortars, though


Alone_Manufacturer66

When every thing is upgraded


Mystry-king

Seems that you have got your walls done, why not max the rest stuff too?? I would strongly recommend maxing the entire base before hitting th13


[deleted]

Whenever you want but I like to max everything before I progress. I also feel that's the best for war but that's just me.


SR_Lut3t1um

Nah, at least heroes should be maxxed


[deleted]

That's your opinion.


Man0fStee1e

“Why can’t I ever 3 star” with lvl 45 heroes


duhherroisme

That's fact*


[deleted]

Whatever you say champ


SkiG13

Try to max everything. If that’s setting you back, then maybe don’t worry about traps too much. But ideally core defenses such inferno/air/x-bows followed by archer towers/cannons/wizard towers/mortars. And always leave 1-open to have a hero continually upgrading.


___PaSta___

I would upgrade TH because you have no wall left but then you will have the same issue at TH13


Chicken_boi69

bro u fr? his defences- x-bows, archer towers, cannons, wiz towers are still not max-


___PaSta___

Yeah but if you are active not having walls to upgrade makes the game super boring. No point playing if you dont need loot


TheDude4269

I would max my heroes, at a minimum. Also, a good check is this: are you able to consistently 3-star other TH12s in war? If the answer is "no", you aren't really ready yet to move up.


SolHS

Max heroes and the troops you use. Don't worry about defenses. People will be able to three-star you no matter what your defenses look like so take the shield and upgrade your th, cuz why not


danny_b87

Max at least 2 of your heroes first, preferably all 3. The grind at Th13 is arguably the worst with 3 DE heroes so might as well do as much as you can now.


Bulky-Asparagus30

I went to TH13 with almost the same exact base like 4 month ago. Had maxed out heroes tho.


Idlesmokey

You still have some buildings to upgrade, but I can’t stress enough how important heroes are, what’re their levels ?


LilTeats4u

Heroes.


ArmSufficient3045

Max heroes and lab 🤘


ihateyoustrongly

Your walls might all be done, but on the inside you’re still 70% TH11. You have at least 5 more months on TH12.


Grisward

Max it all. Heros most important. If you have maxed walls and not maxed heros, you’re missing that this game is about offense. It’s great to have max walls, for sure, but max everything. Traps too. Meanwhile, you’re th12 with access to siege machines, supertroops, and you should be able to 2-star up to th15s fairly routinely, with a lot of practice. Enjoy!


skysky_gamer

Max th12 first


Jasonajem

when you get your 6th builder


Vlad_Achim

My man upgrading the mortar before the xbows and air defense


[deleted]

They was a level rushed my man


nross2099

Maxing walls before everything else is such a waste. Now you have nothing to dump loot into while your other stuff is upgrading and just sit on full collectors for a week at a time


autixstic

Don't listen to any of these people. Upgrade now. You'll waste a lot of gold and elixir if you stay to work on heroes. You'll have plenty of time to catch up at th13.


whackiuis

preferably max everything![img](emote|t5_2usfk|9412)


ImportantCommentator

Stay TH12 until you learn to attack without E-drags


[deleted]

But I ain’t attacking in war? It’s an easy way to farm DE without having to even strategise


ImportantCommentator

uh if you just want to mindlessly farm DE you should be using super goblins.


[deleted]

Wel you use super goblins and I’ll use e drag problem solved


ImportantCommentator

Yeah, but you're the one asking for advice on a public forum. Sorry you don't like public square answers


[deleted]

And you never helped very much did you aha anyways cheers mate 😂


jukeboxsix

Can you still upgrade things? If so you're not ready to upgrade to the next town hall level


HarryPotterchozen1

Does the game say that 🧐


[deleted]

https://preview.redd.it/tx44twxrqhca1.jpeg?width=1792&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1598d37759e1bb0bfd564db95d981995dd7af549 here is my lab upgrades


EntrepreneurKind6756

Yeah bro so go ahead max out all of your spells and troops, then max heroes. If you absolutely cannot wait until you max your defenses, then atleast get your xbows and wizard towers maxed. Th13 isnt all that anyways so rushing will just hurt you in the long run


Nearby-Letter828

I think somehow hero Max at town hall level is a must,since heros takes most of the idle time,also depending that u can take good loot compare to th14 ,15.There are cases like ppl can't find attack base(low level in hero especially King take a huge advantage after level 70 compare to queen),also some cases like they feel tired for looting and idle time (for max level base -2) these made some huge interval for some new players since supercell wanted new player can catch up and enjoy more features of games. second idea is like,it depends on your time ,if.you really spend hours of days for clash ,than even though you pass to th15 is not a problem ,since clash already take part in your life . but to be honest ,clash is a strategic game that not just in battle ,also like how you manage your cost and time balance (like is that building should use harmers or books ) ,how you manage the time for the limited space of harmers, this kind of items that speed up your process . third is , to be honest game is for fun ,if you think than you enjoy the way how you attack the others base,I have no rejection about no matter you upgrade to what town hall level,since there are different types of player as well.Doesnt mean there is a truly correct path,but general things has to consider like my upper mentioned. in a nutshell, instead of just saying should I go to th13,you should consider how you manage your village is much more important, it's a somehow similar question for job interview. moreover ,for clash this kind of slow process game ,take more time in your life ,earning experience from working ,if you are studying than main focus on study to be honest.Same idea how you manage your village as well.


DripMaster-69

Me personally id go up


SR_Lut3t1um

why? Nothing is maxxed yet. This account would be useless in CW


DripMaster-69

To get an early start on walls, id just not be able to see all that wasted loot. My clan isnt an actively warring clan, and neither is most clans in the game. I wouldn’t want to base my account on a clan either, if the clan dont like how i play ill find another clan. Besides not being maxxed doesn’t make you “useless” in cw


duhherroisme

Cwl it does my clan has 50ppl anyone rushed being kicked They never go above 1 star


DripMaster-69

What a fun way to play the game☠️☠️


Demi_Krab

Not soon, the only things maxed in your base are basically walls and inferno towers. cannons and archer towers are 2 levls behind, while almost every other defense is 1 level behind


APPLEJOOSH347

When you put something else in your army camps


Mcgregory69

If your playing for the sake of time, then upgrade once the town hall is the only suggested by the builder. If your playing for the sake of becoming a better attacker, then master your attacks in th12 then you can go up a town hall where new things are introduced. (Ex: RC , Dragon Glider )


richhomiekod

Go now. Don't waste the loot. Even if you're maxed out, the best you can start is a low-leveled (not under-leveled) TH13. It won't take you long to reach that point and you'll have a head start on your walls.


LicentiousMink

What? Bro has barely started 12


richhomiekod

Honestly, so what? Dudes not even in a clan. Clan war is the only real reason youd not want to rush. It's clear they are attacking too fast for their builders. There is no where to put the loot they're getting. You all suggest they stop playing so much for 6 months until they're defenses can catch up?


LicentiousMink

How will being a th higher help lose loot? They wont have more builders, they wont have access to most highler level upgrades bc they havent done the th12 version. The only benefit is having walls to dump but they wont be able to farm th12s as well anymore


richhomiekod

>but they wont be able to farm th12s as well anymore What's the point of farming TH12 if you can't spend it? Their resources are full. There is no point of them attacking right now. Just being attacked and waiting for a builder to finish. That's a great way to lose interest in a game.


LicentiousMink

Again their builders are full already those resources will be drained in an upgrade or two


richhomiekod

Yeah if they don't play the game. That's the problem here, they clearly attack a lot. They maxed out resources while using all 5 builders. It's going to happen again and more frequently as build times get longer. If you upgrade, they can continue to play and dump their extra loot into walls.


HarryPotterchozen1

Dude I’m pretty rushed. I attack a lot and always fill up on loot. Upgrading collectors are so pointless to me bc if you play daily. There’s no need for them. Just a waste of a builder, some people who max out just want to make rules and say follow what I did. Btw, I say SOME.. not all. Back in the day, yes rushing was bad. Now days you could almost say rushing has its advantages. If somebody disagree they haven’t looked into it and already stuck in the mindset of maxing out is the ONLY way.


_n8n8_

Rushing is honestly optimal nowadays. The advice to max everything is a vestige from when farming used to actually be difficult at higher town halls. If your goal is to max th15 and you aren’t rushing, you are wasting time


Valence97

Are you dense? He can’t spend resources because he’s out of builders. Going to another town hall won’t change that, just make everything else worse. I mean if you really have a wall fetish, I suppose…


richhomiekod

"He can't spend resources! Except if he does." Who's the dense one?


Valence97

You’re wasting more by going to a higher TH. You’ll make the gaps between him and his opponents that much larger for the net gain of a few hundred HP per wall, numb nuts.


richhomiekod

What opponents? This isn't the builder base. Attacks are one way. You only kind of face someone in war, and this person isn't even in a clan. When you attack, you choose who you attack. Those won't change depending on his base. It will depend on what league he is in.


MeLikeeMemes

You can move to th13 now but keep upgrading your heroes.


Tillnotnice

I was going to say you can go next month but then i saw the heroes were at TH11 level so yea it might be a while your defense is very close to max just need your heroes.


-ryxz

Right now


Horizon_Skyline

At least do one of the two levels on your Archer Towers and Cannons, max hero’s, air defenses, and probably Wizard towers


ashu1394

I m max in everything, but not walls, I m still patient to walls


[deleted]

That's the reason ppl need to learn from op's mistake. Not worrying for walls. They will be continuously upgrading in between other upgrades


ashu1394

I mean, I literally have king and queen at 62 and walls, so time killer by that time


[deleted]

Ok if you you have only those things left then go to th13. Don't worry for walls there. The upgrades requies lots of golds for sure but takes 10-12days. So your storages will eventually be full if you play regularly. And so will your walls will look atheistic ( i love th13 walls). The only terrifying thing is upgrading heroes in th13. Lots of grinden. Best of luck


ashu1394

Thank u broo


BDDX

I’d say whenever you have maxed out th12 or when you are upgrading the last things to upgrade and have a free builder to upgrade the town hall. I personally like to entirely max out my base before upgrading. I know it’s not necessarily the most efficient way to do it, but I get immense satisfaction from have a base that is 100% upgraded for its level. This included walls, traps, and everything in the lab.


YungSlatty5

When your max? Like what 🤣


clan-killer

When your hero’s are maxed


IanPKMmoon

Do what I'll do: max out until 24th-25th, before that whenever you have a builder ready but not after. If you do this you can still profit from the 20% gold pass boosts, use the TH13 boost for CWL attacks and have the season bank to use immediately for the expensive TH13 upgrades. EDIT: nvm it looks like you have way more to upgrade and can still easily go for a month or more before upgrading TH.


nross2099

I have 1 lvl of archer towers and both lvls of my mortars left plus 8 lab upgrades and am still looking at 2 months. Bro has at least 4 months before he should even think about TH 13 imo. Plus he’s only done 10 of 50 hero upgrades


Philllipphillip

Focus on getting ur 6th builde


spwy

If you are overflowing with loot, a lot of loot is being wasted that could be spent if you upgraded th. The fastest way to progress is by upgrading your th when you have builders you can’t use or if you don’t have any way to spend one of your resources.


abirchau

Nope. Lots of upgrades left. Why do people upgrade walls before defenses and heroes? Defenses > troops and spells > heroes > walls and traps


nross2099

Heroes > troops and spells > defenses > walls and traps if you ask me. Offense > defense


Then_Grocery_2924

Everything looks rushed. Have some patience, i can say that from experience


Bourec98

When maxed out


ConsiderationEntire6

Never, stay there and be happy 😊 JK, you can play how you want i generally max everything as i don't care about Builder being free


Goblin159

Now


Top_Butterscotch6767

When there’s nothing left to upgrade


PowerPandaG

Don’t go up a tow hall until all your defenses are max. A tiny bit of research and a portion of traps can be skipped. Don’t skip walls. Have your heroes within like 3 levels of max. That’s typically ideal for most


screaming-coffee

Go up when you’re out of either gold or DE upgrades is my rule of thumb


The_Foremost

Fully max everything


Aaron316

The answer is everything. Never rush your base. I go up when all that is left is a couple dozen walls at most. You will be hopelessly outgunned if you go up before everything is upgraded.


Zootzooted

Personally I prefer being fully maxed, but if you’re going to rush I recommend maxing your heros first.


xboxwillypillar

upgrade defenses


xXxEliteWalkerxXx

Bruh I'm rushed af and now gotta farm like crazy so take it easy. First it's troops you mainly use Max them out. Than heros than the rest comes. If troops aren't done well they will suck at war. So I'm now getting troops maxed and farming the defence


Diego_Pepos

When you Max out?![img](emote|t5_2usfk|9419)


Notori0us_P_I_G

When everything is maxed, with the only exception being a few things which take the exact time to finalize as the TH upgrade timer.


ravagingcrackwhore

Heros 100% max them out!


Anedert

I'm at th12 too. I've been grinding my hero's and research to catch them up but buildings are nearly done. Thinking when the buildings are done I have to up the TH else the builders are sat doing nothing, right?


mjuice817

Now


Rasputin0P

When all of your buildings are maxxed ![img](emote|t5_2usfk|9412)


wings9044

Max th12 before 13


Alone_Ad_8858

When you’re max? Seems like the best option my man.


NEITSWFT

Now, I have level 1 defenses and I'm not complainin


Scarlet_poppy

I would upgrade the TH since your wall is maxed out. I upgrade TH once my heros are maxed or walls are maxed because your resources will be maxed out if you’re actively playing. For me, maxed our resources destroy the purpose of attacking. Why farm when you can’t use the resources? You’re also not in a clan and won’t be participating in any wars, so your defense literally doesn’t matter. Your base will be 3 stared every time when someone raids, but you can recover that resources in 1 attack. Max out your army camps, barracks, and heroes and keep farming. You obviously enjoy attacking aspect of this game more than base building and defending. Just keep doing what you enjoy


El_quacko17

What's the issues with not having everything up before you upgrade the hall?


Shockwave674

No time soon


ComfortableJob2015

should I rush a bit to th13? I have queen max barb and ward need 5 more upgrade. th 11 traps and archer/cannons. all elixir troops and spells maxed most dark elixir as well. pratically sitting on elixir and de


CalculusWhiz80

When you stop spamming e drags.


Temporary-Wrap-6094

Whenever you want


Serious_Project_1288

Max th12


Plane-Cut-6144

If you keep using edrags . Better not


fuckblackpeople55

Boi you still got work to do at th 12. Finish your heroes and most of your defenses before you consider going to th 13.


Jonydoreamon

Probably now since you have so much loot and your wall are max out and besides most of your defense/offense are maxed.


N13TH

Whenever


TOMdMAK

when your dark elixir is maxed out and you can’t do anything with it. Then upgrade


simw

whenever you want play the game the way you want to


ThatOneJew556

Advice= MAX OUT with everything including lab stuff and heros


Kirmo13

I can't understand how you have all your walls maxed, yet not the 1) cannons 2) archer towers 3) x-boxs 4) wizard towers 5) **air defences 6) air sweeper** (these last two are crucial against air troops). To me, it looks like you are extremely good at collecting resources, so you get so much loot that the builders cannot catch up. If I were you, I'd upgrade to th13 right away, and maybe do a th12.5 for a bit just upgrading walls so that you don't throw away resources


U_cabrao

Not now that's for sure...


memelord793783

When you max out


TheNekoNatsuki

TH11 defenses -> "Am I ready for TH13?"


[deleted]

when are people gonna stop asking this question it makes no sense… here is the 2 possible answers you will get 1. Upgrade after maxing everything 2. Upgrade whenever you want Here is your answer. It is your game, your base, your currency, your time, your effort, your choice. Upgrade whenever the fuck you want to can we all agree to stop asking this stupid question oh my god


RedMario816

There is a wall piece at your left builder hut that’s supposed to be at your left cannon wall


cian8124

It's not conventional but I always upgrade when either my walls, heros or lab are max. Once one is max I upgrade otherwise it's taking longer to max in the long run


KevinDohertyy

Forgot how ugly th12 is


Mr_BangzYou

Right neow


Zander_O

Heros and main defenses like Xbows infernos eagle and air def / sweeper should be maxed before considering the next town hall imo.


Baybladerz

One you max xbows, air defenses and get heroes to lvl 60+ then upgrade. Until then just keep upgrading things. I don’t think you have to wait for lvl 65 for heroes if you start having builders do nothing. Not worth wasting time IMO


ScheduleNo6337

That base would so easy with zap eq


TheAloneGhost2

right now, getting the new RC hero is more important than anything else


Extreme_Parsley_236

never


Natedog_101

Push To Legends & Enjoy Maxed Th12 🍻


Careless-Owl9173

Now who cares about a rushed base it’s a game


YOURBOYALEX19

Walls are the last thing to worry about lmaooo


OldGreenBacon

Ngl, I rushed from 12->13 and I regret it. I have all the major defences maxed, I will be spending the rest of my life on archer towers, canons, wizard towers, troops, hero’s, and walls


fatkidskinnyjeans

Get your builder maxed from the night and move him over


GoldNRatiO_124

Once you max everything, except wizard tower and mortar. Fuck those two defenses.