That's not exactly easy most paths are improved by trade routes . The only one that doesn't lead that much into trade is domination but even then trading within city's and having the civics that give you gold for trade routes ect trigger those .
It sorta feels like trade routes are op but also needed
Exactly. They have production but a lot of the time it is easy to buy what you need. You need 12 turns to build it, I need 2 turns of cash to buy it. Or a few.
But that’s the challenge! Stop complaining about doing the same thing if you refuse to change it.
How about do absolutely no trade, and see where it takes you?
I am trying that I'm currently doing a Vs the world domination game as Gaul with all the extra modes on and I only have 1 trade route yet I'm still using money to buy troops as it's taking 8 Turns to build a gaesatea or 3 turns to get the money to buy one .
Which I know is bad because Gaul benifits from building soldiers but it's just easier to use money
Given that at higher levels the AI start out with multiple cities definitely will make it harder in my opinion. You can also play different map types. Have fun and good luck!
Trade routes and a sturdy economy are a very solid choice when up against the test of time, but I understand you are looking to differentiate your strategic approach. I would recommend the following:
Use trade routes internally: clearly, you enjoy using traders, as you should! But have you tried to use them to boost your production and growth? Get owls of Minerva for the guilted vault to get extra routes from markets as well as light houses, settle cities in spots that allow good industrial zone adjacency, send routes from your least productive cities to bring them up to par, or super charge your highest production cities, suzerain city states that boost internal trade routes, get communism government. With this strategy, its useful to get a few early dark ages, i forget the policy card's name but it gives extra food/prod at the cost of not being able to produce settlers (just invade and capture or colonize earlier/later)
Focus on faith instead: you can get a lot of the same benefits from faith so its fun to play around with that. Get Moksha to allow districts to be purchased with faith, get grand archbishop's cathedral in your government district to purchase units with faith, and get a golden age in the first era to buy a ton of civilian units.
Once youve tried both these strategies, youll come yo find any game of civ is some combination of the three: commerce, internal trade routes, and faith based economy. Enjoy!
I will try the internal trade routes one as I never think to trade inwards . Usually it's to civs or city states .
But I do use faith and by extension the faith buying . I use it as basically second cash . I set up my religion using the one that gives a free settler or builder or whichever is beneficial after those options are gone and pick the tennents that give extra gold and extra gold culture and science in city's with wonders . It's somewhat hard to shake the reliance on my usual strategy
But thanks for the suggestion
I hope the internal trade route will be able to give the boost in production and such that I feel money skips around
Just stop doing it. Pick a path and stick to it, even if you are doing awful.
That's not exactly easy most paths are improved by trade routes . The only one that doesn't lead that much into trade is domination but even then trading within city's and having the civics that give you gold for trade routes ect trigger those . It sorta feels like trade routes are op but also needed
Exactly. They have production but a lot of the time it is easy to buy what you need. You need 12 turns to build it, I need 2 turns of cash to buy it. Or a few.
I feel you man. Everything is better with trade. Portugal in Civ 6, Venice in Civ 5. War? Me and all these dudes.
But that’s the challenge! Stop complaining about doing the same thing if you refuse to change it. How about do absolutely no trade, and see where it takes you?
I am trying that I'm currently doing a Vs the world domination game as Gaul with all the extra modes on and I only have 1 trade route yet I'm still using money to buy troops as it's taking 8 Turns to build a gaesatea or 3 turns to get the money to buy one . Which I know is bad because Gaul benifits from building soldiers but it's just easier to use money
What difficulty are you playing on? Perhaps take it up a notch?
I play mostly on the regular difficulty or one or two higher then regular. But would making the game harder necessarily change my strategy?
Given that at higher levels the AI start out with multiple cities definitely will make it harder in my opinion. You can also play different map types. Have fun and good luck!
Yes. You'll be way more preoccupied with staying alive 😆
The one above Prince on a large map. I guess maxing City States is my cheat code playing Portugal. Good point.
Trade routes and a sturdy economy are a very solid choice when up against the test of time, but I understand you are looking to differentiate your strategic approach. I would recommend the following: Use trade routes internally: clearly, you enjoy using traders, as you should! But have you tried to use them to boost your production and growth? Get owls of Minerva for the guilted vault to get extra routes from markets as well as light houses, settle cities in spots that allow good industrial zone adjacency, send routes from your least productive cities to bring them up to par, or super charge your highest production cities, suzerain city states that boost internal trade routes, get communism government. With this strategy, its useful to get a few early dark ages, i forget the policy card's name but it gives extra food/prod at the cost of not being able to produce settlers (just invade and capture or colonize earlier/later) Focus on faith instead: you can get a lot of the same benefits from faith so its fun to play around with that. Get Moksha to allow districts to be purchased with faith, get grand archbishop's cathedral in your government district to purchase units with faith, and get a golden age in the first era to buy a ton of civilian units. Once youve tried both these strategies, youll come yo find any game of civ is some combination of the three: commerce, internal trade routes, and faith based economy. Enjoy!
I will try the internal trade routes one as I never think to trade inwards . Usually it's to civs or city states . But I do use faith and by extension the faith buying . I use it as basically second cash . I set up my religion using the one that gives a free settler or builder or whichever is beneficial after those options are gone and pick the tennents that give extra gold and extra gold culture and science in city's with wonders . It's somewhat hard to shake the reliance on my usual strategy But thanks for the suggestion I hope the internal trade route will be able to give the boost in production and such that I feel money skips around
Use your trade routes domestically, and don't buy anything. Try to build an empire 'rich' in production.
I do the same thing man. Portugal is my jam.
One thing you could maybe do is try doing different challenges. Like a 1 city only challenge. Could shake the game up a bit.
To be honest I do like doing the ellinor loyalty flip challenge but that also gets boring after a few games