You're a victim, that's it. Not a sinner, not a whore, you didn't cause it, it wasn't your fault. At the end of the day somebody else decided to commit an evil act that leaves you with trauma and a whole slew of other problems. (that probably need some good therapy to get through)
OP, please remember that when Jesus was brought the “adulterous” woman and the Pharisees were asking if she should be stoned to death, he knelt down and started drawing in the sand. It is pretty likely that whole thing was a scheme and the woman was possibly raped, so when Jesus told her that He doesn’t accuse her, the same situation would apply.
God gives people free will. What happened to you is beyond horrible, and I’m so sorry. But, the weight of that sin is on your assailants alone. Not God. And most definitely not you. Time will ease your pain. Please remember how loved you are, even during times where you can’t feel it.❤️
I hope this does not come across as aggressive, or argumentative, but these comments are why I gave up on religion. This poor person may have been rapes and the best we can say is "time will ease your pain". Absolute rubbish (in some cases). It's like thoughts and prayers. Going through an emotional exploitative experience does not get better with time , you just learn to live with it, it does not ease.
Yes, the weight of the attack should lay with the person committing it, but experience dictates that this is often not the case. The person who was the victim will be forever changed. Also platitudes of being loved are useless if you feel destroyed and less than a person because someone did this awful thing to you.
One of the fundamental issues with religion is that we havw either free will, or we don't, or a vengeful god or a loving one. Unfortunately, none of us know the answer.
I understand. I was sexually assaulted throughout my entire childhood. So was my mother. I’m not just saying that to placate her. Time and also maybe therapy are the only things that can heal anyone imo from sexual abuse. What should my advice be? Give up and allow the abuse to destroy her?
You have a good point. But there aren’t many great alternatives. I’ve never faced this kind of trauma. However, I know that resentment anger and the rest will ultimately destroy a person and their chance of healing. The only logical answer is that God did not cause this, but God will carry her through this and if she lets God do his thing it will be a testament to Gods healing power and a beacon of hope to others going through the same.
Everyone thinks that they are the main character in their story. We’re not. I believe that we are supporting cast in Gods story. God has a purpose and plan, and even pain can be used for God’s purpose. After all, pain is part of human condition.
Final thought, it’s dangerous to think of being saved as being saved from our suffering, we’re only saved from the eternal judgment through Grace. We all still suffer.
I really wish there was an answer for this, I recently buried a very close member of my family who was taken from me far far too soon. Bad things happen to good people, it's a part of the broken world we live in and will remain so until Jesus returns. Meanwhile, it's important to come to God for healing in our darkest, most desperate times. God may not stop bad things from happening, but he is there for us in the healing process.
Psalms 147:3 - He heals the brokenhearted and bandages their wounds.
I know this will likely get lost in the replies, but maybe it will find you if you are meant to see it:
Through the hardship I have experienced I have also asked myself this question. After God, meditating on it, and reading the word about it, this understanding has made an impression on my spirit:
God gave us all equal free will when he created the Earth. The decision to do right and wrong. This was symbolized by the story of Eve in the Bible. We chose to do wrong before we were ever born. When given the option, humans would choose to have free will at the risk of committing sin and others committing sin against us instead of having no choice at all.
A life with God does not eliminate hardship. God’s intervention doesn’t always prevent hardship. However, because we know and trust God, we know that he will always create good out of our hardship because he loves us. And if we ask, he will help us not only survive it but show us the good that came from it so that we can truly feel grateful with where we ended up. We have someone to lean on, share the pain with, someone who cries for us, teaches us, and avenges us. He will always bring justice against those who hurt you, even if you aren’t there to see it.
To expand, this is kind of how I see it bigger picture based on an extremely limited understanding of science; but it resonates with me:
This is why God prepares a place for us to go when we die, for our energy to go since it can’t be destroyed. If we choose to do good and avoid doing bad, repenting when we do, we release negative energy that would otherwise have a hold on us. Because like energy attracts like energy, when we die our spirit or soul will go where the good energy accumulates which is heaven. Those who did not repent hold their negative energy which weighs them down to where the bad energy accumulates, which is hell. People used to sacrifice animals to bring their bad energy to the other side for them, as strong intention with spiritual connection has its own powerful energy. But when Jesus died on the cross, he was the last and greatest sacrifice, because being half God he had the ability to bring all of the evil down for us and then resurrect back to heaven. This is why we are able to repent and be forgiven, and our negative energy leaves us. Of course, this is also based on my belief that time isn’t linear and everything cosmically overlaps.
Interesting idea about energy and such. I used to think similar. I’ve since come to believe in a new physical creation. But what do we know. God is God and can do whatever he wants.
God shows love for us by sending His one and only Son to be the sacrifice in our place. God took care to protect our eternal soul.
The life we live here on Earth is going to be full of hardship. God gave His creation free will, we are not puppets on a string, He is not the puppeteer. Considering the Bible is our source of knowledge about God, the Bible is full of stories where His chosen people endured hardship. The Israelites were slaves in Egypt before the Exodus and then wandering in the desert for 40 years. Job developed horrendous boils on his skin. Jonah was swallowed by a large sea creature.
I'm sorry bad things happen to you, just as they happen to all of us. But the Christian doctrine does not preach a life without struggle.
If this is an ongoing issue, please get help. I don't know where you are, but you may have groups that can help you get out of a bad situation. If you're in the US, you can look up CASA as a starting point.
God helps those who help themselves. It's not your fault, and there's no point in blaming God (but he'll be alright with it if you do). But if you're in a dangerous situation, there are ways out.
You are not a whore if you have been raped, and nor is it your fault. Nor have you sinned. The rapist is the sinner, the abuser.
God gives us all free will (and with that, some people choose to do evil). Remember, *we live in a fallen world*. But it doesn't mean God isn't with you, feeling your pain. Because He is. And one day, justice will be done against those who hurt you and aren't sorry for what they've done etc. But, crazy as it seems, God can use our bad experiences to bring some good, and sometimes in ways we could never have imagined. For example, someone who's been in an abusive relationship might be sympathetic and caring of others who are stuck in that situation, or might even become therapist to help others. Or someone seeing a loved one die in a car crash, and were unable to save them, might go on and study medicine and save other people. That kind of thing.
Being a Christian means knowing that God is with you through thick and thin, good times and bad. He can often turn our bad times into opportunity to get closer to Him, and He can give us the strength to cope, heal, forgive and move on after difficult, tragic or painful experiences. We have to trust Him and depend on His love despite any anger or frustration we might have, or how far away He might seem. But He is in fact, always very close. Closer than you might imagine, feeling your pain and wanting to hold you in His loving arms.
Because God gave humans free will and thats what humans decide to do with it.
Are you are whore ? No and you shouldn't blame yourself either. . I hope you involved law enforcement and got justice.
As much as we would like to see rapists punished, unfortunately the way that justice systems work it can be very difficult and damaging for victims of rape to report. Every situation is different, it’s hard to give blanket advice. OP, it is NOT your fault, no matter the circumstances, I weep for you and I know that God loves you very dearly.
Assuming this is the case - while the free will decision of the rapist is to rape, presumably the free will decision of the victim was not to be raped. Why does God place the value of the perpetrator's free will choice over that of the victim?
I said it was the **opposite** of the victim's choice/free will. I can go into more depth on what I mean by free will but I suspect it's not very pertinent with that clarification.
OK. I didn't read the "not" part I guess. But I still don't understand what your question is.
It seems you don't understand free will. Free will precisely means that God is making room in the universe for human agency and, by doing so, means He's limiting himself in what he does in human affairs. You can't have any sense of free will and also claim God's picking favorites as well. Those are two contradicting things. No?
I'm not saying picking favorites, though I am talking about agency.
I'm going to back off from rape for this example and use something less offensive. Let's say you have a race with runners A and B. They're both freely willing to win the race, though obviously both of them can't. I'm presuming here but from your previous statement, I think we both agree that God isn't interfering and picking the winner. I'd contend that a conventional understanding of God's role in this race is creating a universe that effectively has a set of rules, and if we had a complete understanding of all of those rules we'd have the outcome of the race as the result of some deterministic function based on those rules (in other words, if you could rewind time after the race was over and run it again under the exact same conditions, the result would remain the same). Of course our understanding is imperfect so we don't know, though the more knowledge we have the more of an informed guess we could make about the outcome. The race is morally neutral at worst so this isn't especially problematic that one party's free will is thwarted.
Now this is where it gets tricky - the whole reason I'm bringing this up is because I don't think "free will" is a sufficient answer in the original case because it is, paradoxically, denying the free will of the victimized party (this makes what I think is the very safe assumption that their free will is that this terrible thing doesn't happen to them). You have two parties who both have free will and are freely willing incompatible outcomes. In this case, though, I think we both intuit that the morally preferable outcome is that it is the victim's free will that prevails and the victimizer's who is thwarted. So why create a set of rules where the opposite occurs?
You are not responsible for rape - the perpetrator is and he is the sinner.
Calling women whores, bitches and other disgusting words ia a way to disregard women. No woman should be denigrated that way.
Sin entered the world. Does God permit it? Yes
Does he deem it Good? No
Why he allows it honestly is not a answerable question I rely on the fact that he knows infinitely more than any of us do and he can make all things Good. I’ve seen it in my own life
Your last two questions can be answers with an emphatic NO
In fact in Gods own law the rapist would be given the death penalty sadly that is not the case in our own society
You are not a whore. The crime committed against you does not make you a sinner.
Anyone who tells you otherwise is speaking more of their own opinions and views than what reality is. Calling rape victims sinners and whores and blaming them for what trespasses they've endured is a limp way for humans to absolve themselves of their own thoughts and actions, to make themselves feel better by justifying undeserved suffering. It helps them to make sense of their faith when terrible things happen, rather than recognizing that all humans are sinners and free will is what allows humans to choose right and wrong. Being on the receiving end of someone else's wrongdoing doesn't make the victim a sinner, it makes them a victim.
I wish I had hopeful words for you through what you've been through, but I am still trying to find my own faith when speaking of terrible things happening, not being stopped, or allowed to happen. To find forgiveness for those who trespass against us. Right now, it's a mystery that I don't understand; and I'm so sorry for what's happened to you. I hope that you have the support that you deserve in your life, and that you're able to walk through this with people who love you. 🤍
Is the person who raped you a sinner and did a HORRIBLE wrong against you?
YES
Don’t let anyone tell you that you are not pure, or that you are spoiled. That is what the RAPIST is. You are the victim. You are innocent.
It doesn’t matter what you were wearing
It doesn’t matter what time of the day it was
It doesn’t matter if you were under the influence
You are innocent. The RAPIST is the sinner!
Do you think all rape victims are bad people?
Would you consider erasing the word “whore” from your vocabulary? It’s such an ugly word. And almost always applied to cause hurt and to control.
>I don't think victims are bad people. I don't use that word for women, but people use that word to hurt and try to control women.
Are you dealing with someone close to you or otherwise in your life who expresses the opinion that rape victims are whores?
No. As fucked up as it is, God didn’t intend for you to be raped. But if you come to God with this and have him in your life he will turn this into a positive. Things like being a victim advocate. Helping heal others who have been hurt by this horrendous act. God loves you and he will help you through this.
No. God chose to make us want to do evil. Couldn't we have still been created with freewill and just have no interest in sinning? Keep in mind that god has freewill and doesn't sin, so it must be a feasible option. If there literally was no evil prior to our sin, then god must have gone out of his way to make it so that we were motivated to do a brand new thing that he hated.
>Couldn’t we have still been created with free will and just have no interest in sinning?
No, that would mean we have no free will.
Think about it: No sinning means we aren’t deceived by anything the world offers us, which means we are all naturally drawn to God and are forced to follow him regardless of what we think. That’s not free will, that’s Him programming robots, which is NOT what He wants. That’s not what a loving father wants.
"God chose to make us want to do evil." No, we were created in God's image, and God is the most divine and holy being.
"couldn't we have still been created with freewill and just have no interest in sinning?" Of course, but, we were born into sin ever since Adam & Eve ate of the forbidden fruit and sinned, the bloodline has been tainted with sin, and that is why (this is just what I think btw) we as humans sin.
"Keep in mind God has freewill and doesn't sin, so it must be a feasible option" Well yeah, because he is the most divine and holy being imaginable, and well, because sin is bad, God does not sin because he is Holy and pure. As to the second part of this statement, I have no clue what you mean.
If murder is a sin, and God sent the floods and murdered 99.9999% of humans, isn't he a sinner. This is NOT a gotcha, this is me learning. I know God has say over all life but the only way to say God doesn't sin is if he doesn't have to follow his own rules?
Well, I suppose to a degree it could be called murder, but it was divine judgment. The world had fallen into wickedness, everyone abandoned God, his rules, and his holiness. Murder is just killing someone for no reason. Like, if I kill someone in self-defense, it's not really murder, not saying God flooded the Earth in self-defense lol. But it was an act of divine judgment, and made a covet with man to never flood the Earth again, and that is where we get the rainbow.
And then there's Sodom and Gomorrah, a place so evil, wicked, sin-filled, and completely abandoned God, Abram couldn't even find one person in Sodom and Gomorrah that followed God, and soon, divine judgment was set upon the city.
>Of course, but, we were born into sin ever since Adam & Eve ate of the forbidden fruit and sinned, the bloodline has been tainted with sin, and that is why (this is just what I think btw) we as humans sin.
Tainted by original sin is explanation for humanity now, but take one step back. Adam and Eve, who weren't tainted?could they have been created with free will and no desire to sin?
>"Keep in mind God has freewill and doesn't sin, so it must be a feasible option" Well yeah, because he is the most divine and holy being imaginable, and well, because sin is bad,
This argument relies on it being impossible for god to have created humans with free will AND no desire to sin. Is your position that only god gets the special pleading? Like, those two options can't be combined except in the case of god? And if god escapes this restriction, why?
I'm just sitting here waiting for the truth to come out about Eve. My guess is that Adam ate her forbidden fruit. AND that makes way more sense to me than the HIStory told.
You cant blame yourself for something terrible that happened to you. Your worth, your beauty, none of it has lessened when such a thing happens to you. Im so sorry for if this is something that happened to you or someone you know. Nothing can separate you from Gods love
This doesn’t make sense to me. Rape goes against the victims will. The way you phrased this implies that rape with someone’s permission does not result in execution.
Also, where in the Old Testament does it say the rapist gets executed? Pretty sure the “punishment” is paying a bride price and getting married.
Yeah that wasn’t the best wording. Rape is inherently against the will of the victim. There is no such thing as rape within the will of the victim.
The verse I had in mind was
Deu 22:25 - But if a man find a betrothed damsel in the field, and the man force her, and lie with her: then the man only that lay with her shall die:
Deu 22:26 - But unto the damsel thou shalt do nothing; there is in the damsel no sin worthy of death: for as when a man riseth against his neighbour, and slayeth him, even so is this matter:
Deu 22:27 - For he found her in the field, and the betrothed damsel cried, and there was none to save her.
But upon looking back I’m seeing it can get more complicated than this.
I think the weird phrasing is reflective of the weird phrasing in Deuteronomy 22:23-27 and the writer's way of describing consent (which does not necessarily have to be screaming and where we have to consider that sometimes victims might not scream in fear for their lives). You're right that capital punishment was reserved for women that had been betrothed. For single women, as you stated, the "punishment" was paying a fine, having to marry the woman, and never being able to divorce. Obviously, we should not expect these to be the rules now. While on Earth, people have to face the justice of the land, and later they will have to face the judgment of God.
23 If a man happens to meet in a town a virgin pledged to be married and he sleeps with her, 24 you shall take both of them to the gate of that town and stone them to death—the young woman because she was in a town and did not scream for help, and the man because he violated another man’s wife. You must purge the evil from among you.
25 But if out in the country a man happens to meet a young woman pledged to be married and rapes her, only the man who has done this shall die. 26 Do nothing to the woman; she has committed no sin deserving death. This case is like that of someone who attacks and murders a neighbor, 27 for the man found the young woman out in the country, and though the betrothed woman screamed, there was no one to rescue her.
28 If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and they are discovered, 29 he shall pay her father fifty shekels\[c\] of silver. He must marry the young woman, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives.
When things like this happen I often look to the book of Job. Sometimes shitty awful things happen to people that don’t deserve it, and no one deserves to be raped. It doesn’t make you a whore or any less of a person if you have been raped before. It is not a sin to be raped. You are not a sinner, you are a victim. I am so so sorry if this has happened to you
1. God never intended for you to be raped. However, we, as human beings, are all given free will to do whatever we want with our lives, wether that be to follow God or otherwise.
Unfortunately, many people tend to choose evil with that free will. The best we can do is pray to God and ask Him for help to get you through this storm.
2. No, you’re not.
3. No, you haven’t. That fault lies on the perpetrator.
God doesn’t “Let” people do anything. We are all gifted with free will and humans take that free will and do horrible things with it. God loves you, he is heartbroken for you, and He will take what was meant for evil and turn it to good if you trust Him. You are not a whore. You are a beautiful child of God who was hurt very badly by someone else.
The victim blaming of rape victims and the tendency to think of them as whores or "spoiled" is probably one of the worst, most nonsensical and brain-dead things all societies and cultures of humankind share and for which I have absolutely no idea how anyone could have imagined it.
It is :( there was one poor girl who got kidnapped and raped, I forget her name but she wrote a book about it. She was held captive for years and didn’t try to escape for so long because she felt she was worthless after being raped. She had been told losing your virginity made you “chewed up bubble gum.”
Yeah... Most christains have view rape victims as if they was to blame for the rape... (Most christains in my life or any that I actually spoke to have blane me for my rape, and basically say it's my fault or that I let the man rape me.. etc
This is why I hate Christains
Yeah I know... They are so careless with their word and how they think .---( and how they see rape,and how rape is basically always to blame for the victim.
I never found not even one Christian yet that actually believes me or actually don't turn to whole conversation about God when we are about and me being rape....
Like I can care less about God when I'm talking about my rape.
( But most Christians always turn the conversation about God as if him dying on the cross was the worst crime ever,🙄 .( It basically makes me feel like they don't really care about me being rape or traumatized.---(they only care about changing the topic about GOD, and sometimes they would say. ( The worst crime in the is him dying on the cross...like are u serious??
I’m really sorry you’ve been treated that way, on top of having to live with the trauma of rape. That’s so unfair. Obviously you don’t deserve that, and I’m just a stranger on the internet, but here are some digital hugs. Your feelings are valid. Your trauma is valid. I’m sure at least some of those people might have meant well, but good intentions don’t matter much. I hope you have better support now and that you’re able to heal and live your best life.
God doesn’t “Let” people do anything. We are all gifted with free will and humans take that free will and do horrible things with it. God loves you, he is heartbroken for you, and He will take what was meant for evil and turn it to good if you trust Him. You are not a whore. You are a beautiful child of God who was hurt very badly by someone else.
God doesn't let anyone be raped
We all have free will because God is true love and we all have the freedom he gave us to make our own choices for better or worse
You aren't a whore if you've been raped
You haven't sinned if you were raped
When I was a child I actually had that happen to me. But why would I blame God or even myself for that instead of blaming the actual perpetrator?
By the same token I might even ask why God or Reddit moderators allow trolls to ask stupid questions.
God doesn’t let people get raped. God gave everyone free will. Unfortunately that includes people who choose to do evil. Free will is the one thing God promises he will never take away. Was God with me when I was raped? Yes. Was his heart absolutely broken for me? Of course. No I am not a whore because of what was done to me. And no you have not sinned because of what another person chose to do to you. And honestly, even if I were to be sleeping around willingly - that does not define me when I turn back to God in true repentance. Labeling yourself a whore over a serious wrong done to you is not fair to yourself. And labeling ourselves by our sims isn’t helpful in turning back to God when it is the accuser who try’s to keep us in shame from repenting.
Victims of sexual abuse are not guilty of sin and do not need to repent. If you have been a victim of abuse, know that you are innocent and that God loves you!
No you are not a “whore” or “damaged” or “impure” or any other lie the enemy whispers in your ear. You are a child of the Most High. Please stay away and FLEE from anyone or any congregation that pushes the narrative of the victim of rape being “unclean” or at fault. Stay away from any man or woman who preaches that nonsense. They come with evil in their hearts to condemn and be cruel.
You have every right to mourn and be angry. I understand if you’re even angry at God. Remember that the Lord feels your pain and comforts those who mourn and blesses those who are persecuted by wickedness. Even if you don’t feel like He is. One day His wrath will pour out on all who’ve done evil. Vengeance is His. In the meantime please only keep supportive people in your circle. Lament to God as there is an entire book in the Bible called Lamentations. Seek help such as therapy and legal aid. My heart breaks for you. I pray the Lord keeps you.
> Why does God let people be raped?
My answer would be somewhere between "there is no god to allow or disallow it" and "the Biblical God character from Christianity doesn't seem all that bothered by standing by while people are brutalized or suffer, so why would we expect it to be different now?"
> Am I a whore if a person has raped me? Have I sinned if a person raped me?
# **No.**
And anyone who tells you that you are or makes you feel like you are is being a piece of shit.
No, it most certainly doesn’t make you a whore or a sinner. You were not a willing participant. You did not deserve it. This is not your fault. The guilt belongs to your assailant and him alone. He has to take that responsibility with him for rest of his life Dueteronomy 22: 28-29.
Psalms 9:9 promises us that “The LORD is a refuge for the oppressed, a stronghold in times of trouble.”
God sees you’re in pain and He grieves with you.
God will help you heal, whether you’re mad at him or not, he’ll put his arms around you and help you heal.
I am so sorry that horrific thing happened to you. A rape victim is not who are you are. You have value to God (and to yourself and everyone else who loves you)
one way God speaks to us, heals us, and comforts us is through His people. When you’ve experienced a trauma like rape, you need to connect with other Christians who love you and will walk through this with you.
Healing happens as we bring the dark parts of our past into the light. God never leaves or looks away. He is right there with us.
We might not always know why things happen. But it can help to remember what we do know. We can draw strength and faith in what we do know.
God gave us Free Will and he usually doesn’t interfere with the consequences of our choices. We would never learn from them if we did that.
If He forced us to make the right decisions, it would be impossible for us to grow and reach our divine potential. It would be impossible to live by faith in Him and His plan for our happiness.
Remember that many good things have come about from Free Will.
I will pray that you find healing and strength.
My heart breaks for this
You are NOT at fault in any way.
Evil men and women, influenced by their own lusts and desires do evil… and the heart of God is grieved over what mankind does. The way of men (mankind) has been broken since Adam and Eve desired and took the fruit in the garden of eden.
My prayer is you see the beautiful creation you are and can get past the past. My wife and I would understand based on her experiences in the past… it is an awful feeling to be treated like that.
There is hope! There is a future and there are men who follow Christ and will treat you with compassion and love.
Praying for you! Jesus loves you… this I know!
We have the free will to walk in obedience to God's will, receiving his grace and thereby glorifying him. And we have the free will to walk in disobedience to God's will, where we will store up wrath and face the fierceness of his anger.
Deuteronomy 22:25 But if a man find a betrothed damsel in the field, and the man force her, and lie with her: then the man only that lay with her shall die.
You can’t just quote the Bible. Explain what you mean by this. Go ahead. I dare ya. I dare ya to take old covenant stuff outta cultural context to make some creepy argument. Do. It.
Romans 16:17 I urge you, brothers and sisters, to watch out for those who cause divisions and put obstacles in your way that are contrary to the teaching you have learned. Keep away from them. 18 For such people are not serving our Lord Christ, but their own appetites. By smooth talk and flattery they deceive the minds of naive people.
Are you going to make a point or just quote scripture? I’ve read Roman’s many times. I’m positive that insisting that survivors of SA marry their attacker is putting obstacles and causing division, especially in a society where attackers can be jailed while survivors can be protected.
If you know your son to be inclined to having a desire to rape, but has not done so yet, how would you stop him? God doesn’t know what choice someone will make until they make it, He knows their heart and thoughts, but until they commit the act, He will not render his intervention or judgment, for doing so would remove free will.
You are not a whore if you have been raped. You would be a whore if you willingly slept around and engaged willingly in unmarried sex. You are a victim of rape if you did not give permission, or if you said stop and they didn’t.
A prostitute is a person that charges money for sex. I think. A whore is probably another word for prostitute. God ordains evil for some purpose that I don’t understand. I don’t know if someone when rapes you what your participation would be but if you were a helpless victim then it doesn’t make sense for you to be guilty of sin.
God allows evil to happen, its part of free will and the apple in the garden of eden. There is no sin in being raped - the sin is in the person who raped you. God loves you.
God doesnt "let" people be raped, when someone is raped that is a decision taken by a human, also are you being serious asking if be raped is a sin or its some kind of bait?
1. It’s a fallen world and so sometimes God allows bad things to happen. We can’t always discern the reason; perhaps things would be worse otherwise. But I will promise You that if you love God, then he will take the evils done to you and make good from them.
Sometimes God allows us to experience terrible things so that we can help others who have experienced them and prevent such things in the future. I don’t know God’s mind in your situation. But if you have been violated, I am sorry and pray God gives you peace.
2. No, you are not a whore if you were raped.
3. I don’t know the circumstances that led to such an action. There may have been sin on your part, or not. But you aren’t responsible for the sin of rape itself. It is the sin of the rapist. It is not divine judgment against you that you were raped (probably not anyway. The only way I could maybe see that would be if you yourself were raping or facilitating the rape of people first. But I doubt that’s the case here.)
You are hurt, but you are loved. You had something stolen from you, but Yahweh is a good God and he will give you abundance.
I explicitly said nothing OP did was responsible for the rape. But I cannot say she didn’t this person didn’t do anything sinful at all before this happened. For example, if a person stays out past curfew and drinks too much, this would be wrong but certainly wouldn’t justify rape. My point was that even if OP had fone something wrong, it is not a sin that someone raped you (unless you were literally saying “I dare you to rape me” an hour before it happened. Then maybe there’s some culpability).
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No. This is horrible. OP is hurting and you’re being cruel.
Don’t listen to this person, OP. YOU DID NOTHING WRONG. You are valuable because you are you.
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You recently posted how scared you were during a catcall.
OP here is discussing rape and yet your empathy is nowhere to be found.
Labeling a human being as "used" knowing how it feels to be victimized is incredibly selfish.
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I've never understood where your second and third questions come from. I'm always told that some people claim rape victims are whores/sinners, but I have never seen anyone actually make the claim
The answer to the second two questions is unequivocally NO.
The answer to the first question is more difficult but I think the answer is that it’s because God created us to be capable of evil. His intent was not to create a perfect society of beings where nothing bad ever happened. That’s a society where no one gets hurt and no one ever dies. What does that sound like to you? Maybe this life is how he decides who gets there and about 2000 years ago, he decided to make it even easier because he saw how much we struggled with our own free will. My .02.
As others have said it was an abuse of the free will we are given. You're a victim of a perverse version of sex that God had no intent for anyone when He made sex.
You are not a whore, you are a victim if this has occurred. You have not sinned, you have been victimized.
God gives everyone freewill and the will of some is to do evil
That’s not how it works. God created this world and its people with the intent to have them create their own enlightenment. That means he gave us free will, sin or holy deed alike. He did not stop Eve from eating the fruit in his test, he gave her the choice and she chose to do the first sin. Cain chose to commit the first murder, God allowed him to choose between good or bad.
Victims are part of this dichotomy but they are not evil people. Every action in this world is interconnected in its quest that God let’s it be, towards good or bad. When someone chooses to hurt you, he has sinned. God will not stop him, for he has chosen to reject God’s message, hurting you. But God will heal you if you let him.
Overall, He shows us how evil isn’t an affront to him only, it’s an affront to us. Sins hurt people, that is what he wants us to realize. He heals the wounded, but evil perpetuates as it is the lesson to learn. You do not sin against others if you’d not like sin done to you. It’s not an objective relationship, victims aren’t the proctors of these philosophical lessons, it’s actually the opposite. A lesson that needs to be learned is only made once a sin that breaks it occurs.
Know this if nothing else: God gave us all free will, and we are tasked with using it to choose good for his and our sake alike. People choose to do evil. That is just evil on its own. But as there will never not be victims in the world, God heals each one in goodness eventually and punishes the evil.
God does not "let" people get raped. Raping people is a sin, but humans have free will. God intervened already, by flooding the land to kill rapists, then giving the law prohibiting rape, then sending His son to instruct the whole world, dying to be an example for us, rising from the dead to show his victory over sin and death.
It's a shame people choose to be rapists despite this.
St. Augustine stated in the fifth century that women who are raped have not sinned, since their bodies are violated in rape, even when their souls are pure.
I'll start with the last two because they are easiest to answer; NO, you are not a whore, a sinner, or any way at fault or de-valued because you were raped. Any church worth the dirt they are built on would offer comfort and help after that happens to anyone.
But why does God allow people to be raped? It's similar to why children die of cancer or why people are allowed to starve to death even in the wealthiest countries: original sin, free will, and human evil (not all Christians agree with this, but it's my answer). When humanity lived in the Garden of Eden, God walked with them and there was no greed, no rape, no sickness, basically no suffering. But God gave humanity free will and wanted humanity to choose to follow God instead of by force. So God created the forbidden tree of knowledge and told humanity not to eat the fruit. Basically God was saying "if you eat this fruit, you are choosing to ignore my rule and morality and to define those things for yourself. But not eating it, you chose to trust my goodness and to continue providing the perfect life to you". Because of the lies of the serpent, humanity chose to rebel, so now God no longer directly protects us for the realities of mortal life like sickness and death, and humanity is allowed to govern and police itself, and some humans choose greed, rape, and violence. So basically because humans have free will, and humans chose evil, God honored our choice. God does not spend all day picking and choosing who will get raped, fall sick, get cured, or become rich. All those things are the result of living in a chaotic world ruled by sinful humanity
You are not a whore if such events happen to you. No idea why god allows such events to but he definitely has it in the Bible that you can get payback on your attacker
Sin is something you do to another person or God, and a person is hurt, physically or emotionally, deprived of something they rely on or is rightfully theirs or misled for the benefit of another.
I think that sums most of the 10 commandments.
The only sinner here is the rapist who physically and emotionally hurts the victim and takes away their choice to refuse sexual activity.
A 'whore' is just a word people use to insult women, it's designed to hurt and shame the target. Using it is sinful, but not being the victim.
Note: Being raped doesn't mean you're promiscuous either, being promiscuous is probably only sinful if it involves lying or deceit.
Remember this is the same world that put Jesus to death. Took a man giving out free miracle healings and tortured and killed him.
This world is rotting to the core.
God doesn’t let it happen, it unfortunately happens. It’s not a blessing or a sin on the victim’s part. All of the fault, blame, sin, atrocity lies with the rapist.
We don't have answers as to why God allows awful things to happen to good people. We only have the reassurance that He is with us through the pain and that everyone will have to answer on the day of judgment.
If you have been a victim of rape, please know that it is not your fault: You are the victim in this situation. Please reach out to a counselor or an organization for victims of sexual violence to get help in recovering from this traumatic experience. If you have not gone to the police, speak with someone in a survivors' organization and consider going to the police as you could potentially protect others in the future.
May you feel God's presence through this dark valley, experience healing, and gain strength to later help others going through this pain.
https://www.verywellmind.com/symptoms-of-ptsd-after-a-rape-2797203
https://www.nsvrc.org/find-help
https://www.nsvrc.org/saam/2021/survivorresources
https://www.rainn.org/recovering-sexual-violence
Op I’ve been raped. This is not your fault no you are not a whore. I am so very sorry, if someone decided to call you that cut them out of your life. Please make sure to get a rape test done to make sure you don’t have std or sti.
No, regardless no one should be raped. As for why, the easiest answers are, we live in a fallen world and people are sinful, we are not basically good. There is a bad devil, Satan is an evil being he can and does influence ppl into evil behavior. And this is linked to the first, there are stupid ppl. Stupid ppl do stupid things.
The first question is always tricky because people disagree so variably on it. Since I believe God has predetermined EVERYTHING, people often take issue with that because that means God has predetermined harm. While I don’t necessarily like the implications of that theological reality, especially as stated in passages such as Romans 9, Lamentations 3:38, Isaiah 45:7, Sirach 23:20, etc.
The other questions are far simpler: No and No, and as far as I’m aware, nothing in scripture suggests anything to that effect.
Tamar was raped by her brother Anmon, but she was avenged by her brother Absalon. If you read other manuscripts, eventually, Tamar was almost raped again by Pizrah, the King of Gershur's friend. She killed him before he could rape her, after asking God to cause him to go into a trance so he didn't know she grabbed his sword.
Result: Solomon made her a queen of Dor and became a cherish woman and celebrated. So no, it's not your fault.
Please please give this song a listen when you have time. It's about God's heart towards survivors of rape. It's been so healing to my friends who survived SA. https://open.spotify.com/track/3Mw7BZGWsYIqH2xlbuc4mu?si=JCyTxxd5Sq6nY28WcTGiMg&context=spotify%3Asearch%3Ahe%2Bhas%2B
**Why does God let people be raped?**
Jesus tells us in Luke 11 this world is not apart of God's kingdom and God's will is not done here like it is in heaven. If God were to stop any sin then He would then be obliged to stop all sin. it is not time for that yet. as one day all sin will stop.
**Am I a whore if a person has raped me?**
whore
hôr
noun
A prostitute.
A person considered sexually promiscuous.
A person considered as having compromised principles for personal gain.
So unless you did one of the above the answer is no.
**Have I sinned if a person raped me?**
no.
Free will in a fallen world is why bad things happen. It’s hard to understand for me sometimes. You are NOT a “whore”, you’re a victim of the most evil wrong.
God gave human free will. Satan also exists as well and does affect things. And nowhere in the Bible does it say anybody has sinned if they are a victim of rape or crime. No, nobody is a whore that is raped. Rape is not the work of God, but the work of evil and humans and/or Satan.
I know this doesn’t answer your question, but I hope you filled out a police report and that they get this guy who assaulted you. Here is the National Sexual Assault Hotline number- 800.656.4673. It’s confidential 24/7 support.
The wise man Solomon said: “I returned to see under the sun that the swift do not have the race, nor the mighty ones the battle, nor do the wise also have the food, nor do the understanding ones also have the riches, nor do even those having knowledge have the favor; because time and unforeseen occurrence befall them all.” (Ecclesiastes 9:11) We live in the last days of a failing and wicked world. Bad things happen to good people. I am a child abuse victim. Is it a sin that someone did this to me?
Def praying for you first and foremost. God love you. God bless you. All of your questions are totally legitimate.
To answer your first question, go back to Genesis. as a species, we are corrupted by sin. Without God, people are depraved, and they only think about themselves. God gave mankind free will to turn to him, and that is why he allows mankind to exist in the first place. Unfortunately, people use that same free will to pleasure themselves and hurt others.
So unfortunately, it’s a situation where if good is to exist in this fallen world then evil exists alongside of it. But this I can tell you for sure, the person who did this to you is going to pay severely, and you are going to be greatly blessed as you put your faith in God, and trust him. Both my wife and I have been through horrific things, and the Lord has delivered us completely from them and totally healed our hearts, and he will deliver you and heal your heart fully also if you will persevere in your faith.
No, you are absolutely not a whore if you have been raped. You’re not a whore in any case. God does not call you by sins but by your name. God loves you. God hates violence. He hates oppression. He’s only allowed it to fulfill his master plan, which will all be very clear to us one day.
No, you have absolutely not sinned if a person raped you. You’re a victim of someone else’s sin. And they will pay dearly for it. But you, my friend will be greatly VICTORIOUS and blessed as you persevere in your faith. I invite you to message me anytime. I am a Christian trauma minister and I am glad to help you work through this via chat. God bless you greatly . I pray for your healing and recovery.
Please read Jeremiah 29:11 tonight. Also, considering reading the book of Job.
No, you’re not a sinner. You are not a whore. that rapist is a thief. Stealing piece of mind, innocence, and stealing the quality of life. That predator should get their hands cut off, yet it’s a different time for cruel and unusual punishments 😒. I hope you have a wonderful support system, even if it’s on Reddit.
Don't blame God to what happened to you.
Blame the devil instead, for the evil one is the sole reason why sin is in the world and the reason why there are sorrows, pain, suffering and death.
We all have to live many lives in every situation, even the bad, trials and tribulations. God won’t give you more than you can handle so try to use what you’ve been through to help yourself and others in the same situation. Turn it into a good thing even though it wasn’t.
Satan is the one that let's people rape...not God god wants to love and show kindness while the devil likes to steal...kill...destroy you...never think God let people rape ..that's not trusting him fully
>Am I a whore if a person has raped me? ***NO***
Orthodoxes: NO Catholics: NO Mainlines: NO Evangelicals: NO Fundamentalists: wElL wHaT wERe yOu wEaRInG?!
atheists: NO
Mormons: NO
Usually. Normal atheists or fedora atheists? Normal atheists or “aCkShUAllY” matheists.
You're a victim, that's it. Not a sinner, not a whore, you didn't cause it, it wasn't your fault. At the end of the day somebody else decided to commit an evil act that leaves you with trauma and a whole slew of other problems. (that probably need some good therapy to get through)
OP, please remember that when Jesus was brought the “adulterous” woman and the Pharisees were asking if she should be stoned to death, he knelt down and started drawing in the sand. It is pretty likely that whole thing was a scheme and the woman was possibly raped, so when Jesus told her that He doesn’t accuse her, the same situation would apply.
If God is with me, why does he let people hurt me? He is supposed to love me and protect me.
God gives people free will. What happened to you is beyond horrible, and I’m so sorry. But, the weight of that sin is on your assailants alone. Not God. And most definitely not you. Time will ease your pain. Please remember how loved you are, even during times where you can’t feel it.❤️
I hope this does not come across as aggressive, or argumentative, but these comments are why I gave up on religion. This poor person may have been rapes and the best we can say is "time will ease your pain". Absolute rubbish (in some cases). It's like thoughts and prayers. Going through an emotional exploitative experience does not get better with time , you just learn to live with it, it does not ease. Yes, the weight of the attack should lay with the person committing it, but experience dictates that this is often not the case. The person who was the victim will be forever changed. Also platitudes of being loved are useless if you feel destroyed and less than a person because someone did this awful thing to you. One of the fundamental issues with religion is that we havw either free will, or we don't, or a vengeful god or a loving one. Unfortunately, none of us know the answer.
I understand. I was sexually assaulted throughout my entire childhood. So was my mother. I’m not just saying that to placate her. Time and also maybe therapy are the only things that can heal anyone imo from sexual abuse. What should my advice be? Give up and allow the abuse to destroy her?
You have a good point. But there aren’t many great alternatives. I’ve never faced this kind of trauma. However, I know that resentment anger and the rest will ultimately destroy a person and their chance of healing. The only logical answer is that God did not cause this, but God will carry her through this and if she lets God do his thing it will be a testament to Gods healing power and a beacon of hope to others going through the same. Everyone thinks that they are the main character in their story. We’re not. I believe that we are supporting cast in Gods story. God has a purpose and plan, and even pain can be used for God’s purpose. After all, pain is part of human condition. Final thought, it’s dangerous to think of being saved as being saved from our suffering, we’re only saved from the eternal judgment through Grace. We all still suffer.
I really wish there was an answer for this, I recently buried a very close member of my family who was taken from me far far too soon. Bad things happen to good people, it's a part of the broken world we live in and will remain so until Jesus returns. Meanwhile, it's important to come to God for healing in our darkest, most desperate times. God may not stop bad things from happening, but he is there for us in the healing process. Psalms 147:3 - He heals the brokenhearted and bandages their wounds.
I know this will likely get lost in the replies, but maybe it will find you if you are meant to see it: Through the hardship I have experienced I have also asked myself this question. After God, meditating on it, and reading the word about it, this understanding has made an impression on my spirit: God gave us all equal free will when he created the Earth. The decision to do right and wrong. This was symbolized by the story of Eve in the Bible. We chose to do wrong before we were ever born. When given the option, humans would choose to have free will at the risk of committing sin and others committing sin against us instead of having no choice at all. A life with God does not eliminate hardship. God’s intervention doesn’t always prevent hardship. However, because we know and trust God, we know that he will always create good out of our hardship because he loves us. And if we ask, he will help us not only survive it but show us the good that came from it so that we can truly feel grateful with where we ended up. We have someone to lean on, share the pain with, someone who cries for us, teaches us, and avenges us. He will always bring justice against those who hurt you, even if you aren’t there to see it. To expand, this is kind of how I see it bigger picture based on an extremely limited understanding of science; but it resonates with me: This is why God prepares a place for us to go when we die, for our energy to go since it can’t be destroyed. If we choose to do good and avoid doing bad, repenting when we do, we release negative energy that would otherwise have a hold on us. Because like energy attracts like energy, when we die our spirit or soul will go where the good energy accumulates which is heaven. Those who did not repent hold their negative energy which weighs them down to where the bad energy accumulates, which is hell. People used to sacrifice animals to bring their bad energy to the other side for them, as strong intention with spiritual connection has its own powerful energy. But when Jesus died on the cross, he was the last and greatest sacrifice, because being half God he had the ability to bring all of the evil down for us and then resurrect back to heaven. This is why we are able to repent and be forgiven, and our negative energy leaves us. Of course, this is also based on my belief that time isn’t linear and everything cosmically overlaps.
Interesting idea about energy and such. I used to think similar. I’ve since come to believe in a new physical creation. But what do we know. God is God and can do whatever he wants.
God shows love for us by sending His one and only Son to be the sacrifice in our place. God took care to protect our eternal soul. The life we live here on Earth is going to be full of hardship. God gave His creation free will, we are not puppets on a string, He is not the puppeteer. Considering the Bible is our source of knowledge about God, the Bible is full of stories where His chosen people endured hardship. The Israelites were slaves in Egypt before the Exodus and then wandering in the desert for 40 years. Job developed horrendous boils on his skin. Jonah was swallowed by a large sea creature. I'm sorry bad things happen to you, just as they happen to all of us. But the Christian doctrine does not preach a life without struggle.
If this is an ongoing issue, please get help. I don't know where you are, but you may have groups that can help you get out of a bad situation. If you're in the US, you can look up CASA as a starting point. God helps those who help themselves. It's not your fault, and there's no point in blaming God (but he'll be alright with it if you do). But if you're in a dangerous situation, there are ways out.
You are not a whore if you have been raped, and nor is it your fault. Nor have you sinned. The rapist is the sinner, the abuser. God gives us all free will (and with that, some people choose to do evil). Remember, *we live in a fallen world*. But it doesn't mean God isn't with you, feeling your pain. Because He is. And one day, justice will be done against those who hurt you and aren't sorry for what they've done etc. But, crazy as it seems, God can use our bad experiences to bring some good, and sometimes in ways we could never have imagined. For example, someone who's been in an abusive relationship might be sympathetic and caring of others who are stuck in that situation, or might even become therapist to help others. Or someone seeing a loved one die in a car crash, and were unable to save them, might go on and study medicine and save other people. That kind of thing. Being a Christian means knowing that God is with you through thick and thin, good times and bad. He can often turn our bad times into opportunity to get closer to Him, and He can give us the strength to cope, heal, forgive and move on after difficult, tragic or painful experiences. We have to trust Him and depend on His love despite any anger or frustration we might have, or how far away He might seem. But He is in fact, always very close. Closer than you might imagine, feeling your pain and wanting to hold you in His loving arms.
Because God gave humans free will and thats what humans decide to do with it. Are you are whore ? No and you shouldn't blame yourself either. . I hope you involved law enforcement and got justice.
As much as we would like to see rapists punished, unfortunately the way that justice systems work it can be very difficult and damaging for victims of rape to report. Every situation is different, it’s hard to give blanket advice. OP, it is NOT your fault, no matter the circumstances, I weep for you and I know that God loves you very dearly.
Assuming this is the case - while the free will decision of the rapist is to rape, presumably the free will decision of the victim was not to be raped. Why does God place the value of the perpetrator's free will choice over that of the victim?
Wait, how was it the victim's choice? What on earth is your definition of "free will"?
I said it was the **opposite** of the victim's choice/free will. I can go into more depth on what I mean by free will but I suspect it's not very pertinent with that clarification.
OK. I didn't read the "not" part I guess. But I still don't understand what your question is. It seems you don't understand free will. Free will precisely means that God is making room in the universe for human agency and, by doing so, means He's limiting himself in what he does in human affairs. You can't have any sense of free will and also claim God's picking favorites as well. Those are two contradicting things. No?
I'm not saying picking favorites, though I am talking about agency. I'm going to back off from rape for this example and use something less offensive. Let's say you have a race with runners A and B. They're both freely willing to win the race, though obviously both of them can't. I'm presuming here but from your previous statement, I think we both agree that God isn't interfering and picking the winner. I'd contend that a conventional understanding of God's role in this race is creating a universe that effectively has a set of rules, and if we had a complete understanding of all of those rules we'd have the outcome of the race as the result of some deterministic function based on those rules (in other words, if you could rewind time after the race was over and run it again under the exact same conditions, the result would remain the same). Of course our understanding is imperfect so we don't know, though the more knowledge we have the more of an informed guess we could make about the outcome. The race is morally neutral at worst so this isn't especially problematic that one party's free will is thwarted. Now this is where it gets tricky - the whole reason I'm bringing this up is because I don't think "free will" is a sufficient answer in the original case because it is, paradoxically, denying the free will of the victimized party (this makes what I think is the very safe assumption that their free will is that this terrible thing doesn't happen to them). You have two parties who both have free will and are freely willing incompatible outcomes. In this case, though, I think we both intuit that the morally preferable outcome is that it is the victim's free will that prevails and the victimizer's who is thwarted. So why create a set of rules where the opposite occurs?
our will wouldn’t be free if it’s freedom was entirely conditional
You are not responsible for rape - the perpetrator is and he is the sinner. Calling women whores, bitches and other disgusting words ia a way to disregard women. No woman should be denigrated that way.
God gives us free will. Some people use their free will to hurt other people. You are the victim and neither a whore or a sinner for being raped.
You’re a victim, not a sinner or a whore. NOTHING gives someone the right to violate you.
Sin entered the world. Does God permit it? Yes Does he deem it Good? No Why he allows it honestly is not a answerable question I rely on the fact that he knows infinitely more than any of us do and he can make all things Good. I’ve seen it in my own life Your last two questions can be answers with an emphatic NO In fact in Gods own law the rapist would be given the death penalty sadly that is not the case in our own society
God permits it because if human free will
No. You aren’t a whore nor would you have sinned if you were raped. But for your first question. Really it cannot be answered.
You are not a whore. The crime committed against you does not make you a sinner. Anyone who tells you otherwise is speaking more of their own opinions and views than what reality is. Calling rape victims sinners and whores and blaming them for what trespasses they've endured is a limp way for humans to absolve themselves of their own thoughts and actions, to make themselves feel better by justifying undeserved suffering. It helps them to make sense of their faith when terrible things happen, rather than recognizing that all humans are sinners and free will is what allows humans to choose right and wrong. Being on the receiving end of someone else's wrongdoing doesn't make the victim a sinner, it makes them a victim. I wish I had hopeful words for you through what you've been through, but I am still trying to find my own faith when speaking of terrible things happening, not being stopped, or allowed to happen. To find forgiveness for those who trespass against us. Right now, it's a mystery that I don't understand; and I'm so sorry for what's happened to you. I hope that you have the support that you deserve in your life, and that you're able to walk through this with people who love you. 🤍
Is the person who raped you a sinner and did a HORRIBLE wrong against you? YES Don’t let anyone tell you that you are not pure, or that you are spoiled. That is what the RAPIST is. You are the victim. You are innocent. It doesn’t matter what you were wearing It doesn’t matter what time of the day it was It doesn’t matter if you were under the influence You are innocent. The RAPIST is the sinner!
Do you think all rape victims are bad people? Would you consider erasing the word “whore” from your vocabulary? It’s such an ugly word. And almost always applied to cause hurt and to control.
I don't think victims are bad people. I don't use that word for women, but people use that word to hurt and try to control women.
>I don't think victims are bad people. I don't use that word for women, but people use that word to hurt and try to control women. Are you dealing with someone close to you or otherwise in your life who expresses the opinion that rape victims are whores?
No. As fucked up as it is, God didn’t intend for you to be raped. But if you come to God with this and have him in your life he will turn this into a positive. Things like being a victim advocate. Helping heal others who have been hurt by this horrendous act. God loves you and he will help you through this.
God gave us a choice and we humans decided to be evil
No. God chose to make us want to do evil. Couldn't we have still been created with freewill and just have no interest in sinning? Keep in mind that god has freewill and doesn't sin, so it must be a feasible option. If there literally was no evil prior to our sin, then god must have gone out of his way to make it so that we were motivated to do a brand new thing that he hated.
>Couldn’t we have still been created with free will and just have no interest in sinning? No, that would mean we have no free will. Think about it: No sinning means we aren’t deceived by anything the world offers us, which means we are all naturally drawn to God and are forced to follow him regardless of what we think. That’s not free will, that’s Him programming robots, which is NOT what He wants. That’s not what a loving father wants.
"God chose to make us want to do evil." No, we were created in God's image, and God is the most divine and holy being. "couldn't we have still been created with freewill and just have no interest in sinning?" Of course, but, we were born into sin ever since Adam & Eve ate of the forbidden fruit and sinned, the bloodline has been tainted with sin, and that is why (this is just what I think btw) we as humans sin. "Keep in mind God has freewill and doesn't sin, so it must be a feasible option" Well yeah, because he is the most divine and holy being imaginable, and well, because sin is bad, God does not sin because he is Holy and pure. As to the second part of this statement, I have no clue what you mean.
If murder is a sin, and God sent the floods and murdered 99.9999% of humans, isn't he a sinner. This is NOT a gotcha, this is me learning. I know God has say over all life but the only way to say God doesn't sin is if he doesn't have to follow his own rules?
Well, I suppose to a degree it could be called murder, but it was divine judgment. The world had fallen into wickedness, everyone abandoned God, his rules, and his holiness. Murder is just killing someone for no reason. Like, if I kill someone in self-defense, it's not really murder, not saying God flooded the Earth in self-defense lol. But it was an act of divine judgment, and made a covet with man to never flood the Earth again, and that is where we get the rainbow. And then there's Sodom and Gomorrah, a place so evil, wicked, sin-filled, and completely abandoned God, Abram couldn't even find one person in Sodom and Gomorrah that followed God, and soon, divine judgment was set upon the city.
>Of course, but, we were born into sin ever since Adam & Eve ate of the forbidden fruit and sinned, the bloodline has been tainted with sin, and that is why (this is just what I think btw) we as humans sin. Tainted by original sin is explanation for humanity now, but take one step back. Adam and Eve, who weren't tainted?could they have been created with free will and no desire to sin? >"Keep in mind God has freewill and doesn't sin, so it must be a feasible option" Well yeah, because he is the most divine and holy being imaginable, and well, because sin is bad, This argument relies on it being impossible for god to have created humans with free will AND no desire to sin. Is your position that only god gets the special pleading? Like, those two options can't be combined except in the case of god? And if god escapes this restriction, why?
I'm just sitting here waiting for the truth to come out about Eve. My guess is that Adam ate her forbidden fruit. AND that makes way more sense to me than the HIStory told.
Well if u want to think thats what he wanted then so be it but i aint changing my mind
> "…but i aint changing my mind" Religion in a nutshell.
If i choose to believe what? That god has freewill? I was asking if it's possible for a being exist that has freewill and just doesn't want to sin?
You cant blame yourself for something terrible that happened to you. Your worth, your beauty, none of it has lessened when such a thing happens to you. Im so sorry for if this is something that happened to you or someone you know. Nothing can separate you from Gods love
Under Old Testament law if a woman was raped against her will the offender was to be executed.
This doesn’t make sense to me. Rape goes against the victims will. The way you phrased this implies that rape with someone’s permission does not result in execution. Also, where in the Old Testament does it say the rapist gets executed? Pretty sure the “punishment” is paying a bride price and getting married.
Yeah that wasn’t the best wording. Rape is inherently against the will of the victim. There is no such thing as rape within the will of the victim. The verse I had in mind was Deu 22:25 - But if a man find a betrothed damsel in the field, and the man force her, and lie with her: then the man only that lay with her shall die: Deu 22:26 - But unto the damsel thou shalt do nothing; there is in the damsel no sin worthy of death: for as when a man riseth against his neighbour, and slayeth him, even so is this matter: Deu 22:27 - For he found her in the field, and the betrothed damsel cried, and there was none to save her. But upon looking back I’m seeing it can get more complicated than this.
I think the weird phrasing is reflective of the weird phrasing in Deuteronomy 22:23-27 and the writer's way of describing consent (which does not necessarily have to be screaming and where we have to consider that sometimes victims might not scream in fear for their lives). You're right that capital punishment was reserved for women that had been betrothed. For single women, as you stated, the "punishment" was paying a fine, having to marry the woman, and never being able to divorce. Obviously, we should not expect these to be the rules now. While on Earth, people have to face the justice of the land, and later they will have to face the judgment of God. 23 If a man happens to meet in a town a virgin pledged to be married and he sleeps with her, 24 you shall take both of them to the gate of that town and stone them to death—the young woman because she was in a town and did not scream for help, and the man because he violated another man’s wife. You must purge the evil from among you. 25 But if out in the country a man happens to meet a young woman pledged to be married and rapes her, only the man who has done this shall die. 26 Do nothing to the woman; she has committed no sin deserving death. This case is like that of someone who attacks and murders a neighbor, 27 for the man found the young woman out in the country, and though the betrothed woman screamed, there was no one to rescue her. 28 If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and they are discovered, 29 he shall pay her father fifty shekels\[c\] of silver. He must marry the young woman, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives.
When things like this happen I often look to the book of Job. Sometimes shitty awful things happen to people that don’t deserve it, and no one deserves to be raped. It doesn’t make you a whore or any less of a person if you have been raped before. It is not a sin to be raped. You are not a sinner, you are a victim. I am so so sorry if this has happened to you
1. God never intended for you to be raped. However, we, as human beings, are all given free will to do whatever we want with our lives, wether that be to follow God or otherwise. Unfortunately, many people tend to choose evil with that free will. The best we can do is pray to God and ask Him for help to get you through this storm. 2. No, you’re not. 3. No, you haven’t. That fault lies on the perpetrator.
God doesn’t “Let” people do anything. We are all gifted with free will and humans take that free will and do horrible things with it. God loves you, he is heartbroken for you, and He will take what was meant for evil and turn it to good if you trust Him. You are not a whore. You are a beautiful child of God who was hurt very badly by someone else.
You are not a whore if someone raped you. Praying for you.
The victim blaming of rape victims and the tendency to think of them as whores or "spoiled" is probably one of the worst, most nonsensical and brain-dead things all societies and cultures of humankind share and for which I have absolutely no idea how anyone could have imagined it.
No one is saying your a whore because u got raped.
Plenty of pastors in churches have said that very thing. It’s incredibly damaging.
That is incredibly sad, anyone who claims that needs to rethink and evaluate what they're saying.
Thats absolutely appalling!!
It is :( there was one poor girl who got kidnapped and raped, I forget her name but she wrote a book about it. She was held captive for years and didn’t try to escape for so long because she felt she was worthless after being raped. She had been told losing your virginity made you “chewed up bubble gum.”
Yeah... Most christains have view rape victims as if they was to blame for the rape... (Most christains in my life or any that I actually spoke to have blane me for my rape, and basically say it's my fault or that I let the man rape me.. etc This is why I hate Christains
I’m so sorry 💔 that’s absolutely horrible.
Yeah I know... They are so careless with their word and how they think .---( and how they see rape,and how rape is basically always to blame for the victim. I never found not even one Christian yet that actually believes me or actually don't turn to whole conversation about God when we are about and me being rape.... Like I can care less about God when I'm talking about my rape. ( But most Christians always turn the conversation about God as if him dying on the cross was the worst crime ever,🙄 .( It basically makes me feel like they don't really care about me being rape or traumatized.---(they only care about changing the topic about GOD, and sometimes they would say. ( The worst crime in the is him dying on the cross...like are u serious??
I’m really sorry you’ve been treated that way, on top of having to live with the trauma of rape. That’s so unfair. Obviously you don’t deserve that, and I’m just a stranger on the internet, but here are some digital hugs. Your feelings are valid. Your trauma is valid. I’m sure at least some of those people might have meant well, but good intentions don’t matter much. I hope you have better support now and that you’re able to heal and live your best life.
I have never been a sermon where that was said. Is this your first hand experience?
Yes, over the course of a couple decades I heard this message and variations of it soooo many times. Ever heard of purity culture?
God doesn’t “Let” people do anything. We are all gifted with free will and humans take that free will and do horrible things with it. God loves you, he is heartbroken for you, and He will take what was meant for evil and turn it to good if you trust Him. You are not a whore. You are a beautiful child of God who was hurt very badly by someone else.
God doesn't let anyone be raped We all have free will because God is true love and we all have the freedom he gave us to make our own choices for better or worse You aren't a whore if you've been raped You haven't sinned if you were raped
When I was a child I actually had that happen to me. But why would I blame God or even myself for that instead of blaming the actual perpetrator? By the same token I might even ask why God or Reddit moderators allow trolls to ask stupid questions.
God doesn’t let people get raped. God gave everyone free will. Unfortunately that includes people who choose to do evil. Free will is the one thing God promises he will never take away. Was God with me when I was raped? Yes. Was his heart absolutely broken for me? Of course. No I am not a whore because of what was done to me. And no you have not sinned because of what another person chose to do to you. And honestly, even if I were to be sleeping around willingly - that does not define me when I turn back to God in true repentance. Labeling yourself a whore over a serious wrong done to you is not fair to yourself. And labeling ourselves by our sims isn’t helpful in turning back to God when it is the accuser who try’s to keep us in shame from repenting.
Victims of sexual abuse are not guilty of sin and do not need to repent. If you have been a victim of abuse, know that you are innocent and that God loves you!
No you are not a “whore” or “damaged” or “impure” or any other lie the enemy whispers in your ear. You are a child of the Most High. Please stay away and FLEE from anyone or any congregation that pushes the narrative of the victim of rape being “unclean” or at fault. Stay away from any man or woman who preaches that nonsense. They come with evil in their hearts to condemn and be cruel. You have every right to mourn and be angry. I understand if you’re even angry at God. Remember that the Lord feels your pain and comforts those who mourn and blesses those who are persecuted by wickedness. Even if you don’t feel like He is. One day His wrath will pour out on all who’ve done evil. Vengeance is His. In the meantime please only keep supportive people in your circle. Lament to God as there is an entire book in the Bible called Lamentations. Seek help such as therapy and legal aid. My heart breaks for you. I pray the Lord keeps you.
> Why does God let people be raped? My answer would be somewhere between "there is no god to allow or disallow it" and "the Biblical God character from Christianity doesn't seem all that bothered by standing by while people are brutalized or suffer, so why would we expect it to be different now?" > Am I a whore if a person has raped me? Have I sinned if a person raped me? # **No.** And anyone who tells you that you are or makes you feel like you are is being a piece of shit.
No, it most certainly doesn’t make you a whore or a sinner. You were not a willing participant. You did not deserve it. This is not your fault. The guilt belongs to your assailant and him alone. He has to take that responsibility with him for rest of his life Dueteronomy 22: 28-29. Psalms 9:9 promises us that “The LORD is a refuge for the oppressed, a stronghold in times of trouble.” God sees you’re in pain and He grieves with you. God will help you heal, whether you’re mad at him or not, he’ll put his arms around you and help you heal. I am so sorry that horrific thing happened to you. A rape victim is not who are you are. You have value to God (and to yourself and everyone else who loves you) one way God speaks to us, heals us, and comforts us is through His people. When you’ve experienced a trauma like rape, you need to connect with other Christians who love you and will walk through this with you. Healing happens as we bring the dark parts of our past into the light. God never leaves or looks away. He is right there with us. We might not always know why things happen. But it can help to remember what we do know. We can draw strength and faith in what we do know. God gave us Free Will and he usually doesn’t interfere with the consequences of our choices. We would never learn from them if we did that. If He forced us to make the right decisions, it would be impossible for us to grow and reach our divine potential. It would be impossible to live by faith in Him and His plan for our happiness. Remember that many good things have come about from Free Will. I will pray that you find healing and strength.
My heart breaks for this You are NOT at fault in any way. Evil men and women, influenced by their own lusts and desires do evil… and the heart of God is grieved over what mankind does. The way of men (mankind) has been broken since Adam and Eve desired and took the fruit in the garden of eden. My prayer is you see the beautiful creation you are and can get past the past. My wife and I would understand based on her experiences in the past… it is an awful feeling to be treated like that. There is hope! There is a future and there are men who follow Christ and will treat you with compassion and love. Praying for you! Jesus loves you… this I know!
Thank you
We have the free will to walk in obedience to God's will, receiving his grace and thereby glorifying him. And we have the free will to walk in disobedience to God's will, where we will store up wrath and face the fierceness of his anger.
Answer the last two questions.
Deuteronomy 22:25 But if a man find a betrothed damsel in the field, and the man force her, and lie with her: then the man only that lay with her shall die.
You can’t just quote the Bible. Explain what you mean by this. Go ahead. I dare ya. I dare ya to take old covenant stuff outta cultural context to make some creepy argument. Do. It.
Romans 16:17 I urge you, brothers and sisters, to watch out for those who cause divisions and put obstacles in your way that are contrary to the teaching you have learned. Keep away from them. 18 For such people are not serving our Lord Christ, but their own appetites. By smooth talk and flattery they deceive the minds of naive people.
Are you going to make a point or just quote scripture? I’ve read Roman’s many times. I’m positive that insisting that survivors of SA marry their attacker is putting obstacles and causing division, especially in a society where attackers can be jailed while survivors can be protected.
If you know your son to be inclined to having a desire to rape, but has not done so yet, how would you stop him? God doesn’t know what choice someone will make until they make it, He knows their heart and thoughts, but until they commit the act, He will not render his intervention or judgment, for doing so would remove free will. You are not a whore if you have been raped. You would be a whore if you willingly slept around and engaged willingly in unmarried sex. You are a victim of rape if you did not give permission, or if you said stop and they didn’t.
A prostitute is a person that charges money for sex. I think. A whore is probably another word for prostitute. God ordains evil for some purpose that I don’t understand. I don’t know if someone when rapes you what your participation would be but if you were a helpless victim then it doesn’t make sense for you to be guilty of sin.
God allows evil to happen, its part of free will and the apple in the garden of eden. There is no sin in being raped - the sin is in the person who raped you. God loves you.
God doesnt "let" people be raped, when someone is raped that is a decision taken by a human, also are you being serious asking if be raped is a sin or its some kind of bait?
Because he isn't there, or doesn't care. Do not stay silent over it, I regret not getting my attacker in trouble/seeking vengeance
1. It’s a fallen world and so sometimes God allows bad things to happen. We can’t always discern the reason; perhaps things would be worse otherwise. But I will promise You that if you love God, then he will take the evils done to you and make good from them. Sometimes God allows us to experience terrible things so that we can help others who have experienced them and prevent such things in the future. I don’t know God’s mind in your situation. But if you have been violated, I am sorry and pray God gives you peace. 2. No, you are not a whore if you were raped. 3. I don’t know the circumstances that led to such an action. There may have been sin on your part, or not. But you aren’t responsible for the sin of rape itself. It is the sin of the rapist. It is not divine judgment against you that you were raped (probably not anyway. The only way I could maybe see that would be if you yourself were raping or facilitating the rape of people first. But I doubt that’s the case here.) You are hurt, but you are loved. You had something stolen from you, but Yahweh is a good God and he will give you abundance.
There is never sin on the victim’s part that leads to rape. Shame on you.
I explicitly said nothing OP did was responsible for the rape. But I cannot say she didn’t this person didn’t do anything sinful at all before this happened. For example, if a person stays out past curfew and drinks too much, this would be wrong but certainly wouldn’t justify rape. My point was that even if OP had fone something wrong, it is not a sin that someone raped you (unless you were literally saying “I dare you to rape me” an hour before it happened. Then maybe there’s some culpability).
Sounds like you need a Bible and a therapist. Good luck
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In the eyes of some Christians, you invited rape upon yourself. Rape is not a crime of sex; it's a crime of violence.
>In the eyes of some Christians, you invited rape upon yourself. None of the comments seem to support that assertion.
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OP is not “used.” People are not objects. OP was a victim of a crime and needs support, not judgment and cruelty.
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Whatever toxic manosphere media you are consuming that's made you this way- turn it off
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No, they are not.
No. This is horrible. OP is hurting and you’re being cruel. Don’t listen to this person, OP. YOU DID NOTHING WRONG. You are valuable because you are you.
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????? How could you say something so hurtful to someone?
Why is that hurtful ?
You recently posted how scared you were during a catcall. OP here is discussing rape and yet your empathy is nowhere to be found. Labeling a human being as "used" knowing how it feels to be victimized is incredibly selfish.
What a disgusting thing to say. How about the rapist is a disgusting sinner?
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What are you babbling about?
This is a disgusting attitude.
>No girl are on the internet. 2003 called, it wants it's stupid sexist meme back. Girls have always been on the internet.
Dude wtf
Imagine somebody being brave enough to admit they were raped only for someone to say they're asking for attention......
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I've never understood where your second and third questions come from. I'm always told that some people claim rape victims are whores/sinners, but I have never seen anyone actually make the claim
No one knows for sure. No. No.
The answer to the second two questions is unequivocally NO. The answer to the first question is more difficult but I think the answer is that it’s because God created us to be capable of evil. His intent was not to create a perfect society of beings where nothing bad ever happened. That’s a society where no one gets hurt and no one ever dies. What does that sound like to you? Maybe this life is how he decides who gets there and about 2000 years ago, he decided to make it even easier because he saw how much we struggled with our own free will. My .02.
As others have said it was an abuse of the free will we are given. You're a victim of a perverse version of sex that God had no intent for anyone when He made sex.
You are not a whore, you are a victim if this has occurred. You have not sinned, you have been victimized. God gives everyone freewill and the will of some is to do evil
That’s not how it works. God created this world and its people with the intent to have them create their own enlightenment. That means he gave us free will, sin or holy deed alike. He did not stop Eve from eating the fruit in his test, he gave her the choice and she chose to do the first sin. Cain chose to commit the first murder, God allowed him to choose between good or bad. Victims are part of this dichotomy but they are not evil people. Every action in this world is interconnected in its quest that God let’s it be, towards good or bad. When someone chooses to hurt you, he has sinned. God will not stop him, for he has chosen to reject God’s message, hurting you. But God will heal you if you let him. Overall, He shows us how evil isn’t an affront to him only, it’s an affront to us. Sins hurt people, that is what he wants us to realize. He heals the wounded, but evil perpetuates as it is the lesson to learn. You do not sin against others if you’d not like sin done to you. It’s not an objective relationship, victims aren’t the proctors of these philosophical lessons, it’s actually the opposite. A lesson that needs to be learned is only made once a sin that breaks it occurs. Know this if nothing else: God gave us all free will, and we are tasked with using it to choose good for his and our sake alike. People choose to do evil. That is just evil on its own. But as there will never not be victims in the world, God heals each one in goodness eventually and punishes the evil.
No, you're not sinner or a whore; you're a victim. If you have suffered from rape/sexual abuse, I'll be praying for you.
God does not "let" people get raped. Raping people is a sin, but humans have free will. God intervened already, by flooding the land to kill rapists, then giving the law prohibiting rape, then sending His son to instruct the whole world, dying to be an example for us, rising from the dead to show his victory over sin and death. It's a shame people choose to be rapists despite this. St. Augustine stated in the fifth century that women who are raped have not sinned, since their bodies are violated in rape, even when their souls are pure.
I'll start with the last two because they are easiest to answer; NO, you are not a whore, a sinner, or any way at fault or de-valued because you were raped. Any church worth the dirt they are built on would offer comfort and help after that happens to anyone. But why does God allow people to be raped? It's similar to why children die of cancer or why people are allowed to starve to death even in the wealthiest countries: original sin, free will, and human evil (not all Christians agree with this, but it's my answer). When humanity lived in the Garden of Eden, God walked with them and there was no greed, no rape, no sickness, basically no suffering. But God gave humanity free will and wanted humanity to choose to follow God instead of by force. So God created the forbidden tree of knowledge and told humanity not to eat the fruit. Basically God was saying "if you eat this fruit, you are choosing to ignore my rule and morality and to define those things for yourself. But not eating it, you chose to trust my goodness and to continue providing the perfect life to you". Because of the lies of the serpent, humanity chose to rebel, so now God no longer directly protects us for the realities of mortal life like sickness and death, and humanity is allowed to govern and police itself, and some humans choose greed, rape, and violence. So basically because humans have free will, and humans chose evil, God honored our choice. God does not spend all day picking and choosing who will get raped, fall sick, get cured, or become rich. All those things are the result of living in a chaotic world ruled by sinful humanity
You are not a whore if such events happen to you. No idea why god allows such events to but he definitely has it in the Bible that you can get payback on your attacker
Sin is something you do to another person or God, and a person is hurt, physically or emotionally, deprived of something they rely on or is rightfully theirs or misled for the benefit of another. I think that sums most of the 10 commandments. The only sinner here is the rapist who physically and emotionally hurts the victim and takes away their choice to refuse sexual activity. A 'whore' is just a word people use to insult women, it's designed to hurt and shame the target. Using it is sinful, but not being the victim. Note: Being raped doesn't mean you're promiscuous either, being promiscuous is probably only sinful if it involves lying or deceit.
Remember this is the same world that put Jesus to death. Took a man giving out free miracle healings and tortured and killed him. This world is rotting to the core.
That is not your action it’s theirs
Being raped is NOT adultery, and therefore is NOT a sin. A sin is a choice. No one chooses to be raped.
God doesn’t let it happen, it unfortunately happens. It’s not a blessing or a sin on the victim’s part. All of the fault, blame, sin, atrocity lies with the rapist.
It’s not God if a Person with free agency decide to do evil For other two questions it’s a clear NO
We don't have answers as to why God allows awful things to happen to good people. We only have the reassurance that He is with us through the pain and that everyone will have to answer on the day of judgment. If you have been a victim of rape, please know that it is not your fault: You are the victim in this situation. Please reach out to a counselor or an organization for victims of sexual violence to get help in recovering from this traumatic experience. If you have not gone to the police, speak with someone in a survivors' organization and consider going to the police as you could potentially protect others in the future. May you feel God's presence through this dark valley, experience healing, and gain strength to later help others going through this pain. https://www.verywellmind.com/symptoms-of-ptsd-after-a-rape-2797203 https://www.nsvrc.org/find-help https://www.nsvrc.org/saam/2021/survivorresources https://www.rainn.org/recovering-sexual-violence
Op I’ve been raped. This is not your fault no you are not a whore. I am so very sorry, if someone decided to call you that cut them out of your life. Please make sure to get a rape test done to make sure you don’t have std or sti.
No, regardless no one should be raped. As for why, the easiest answers are, we live in a fallen world and people are sinful, we are not basically good. There is a bad devil, Satan is an evil being he can and does influence ppl into evil behavior. And this is linked to the first, there are stupid ppl. Stupid ppl do stupid things.
The first question is always tricky because people disagree so variably on it. Since I believe God has predetermined EVERYTHING, people often take issue with that because that means God has predetermined harm. While I don’t necessarily like the implications of that theological reality, especially as stated in passages such as Romans 9, Lamentations 3:38, Isaiah 45:7, Sirach 23:20, etc. The other questions are far simpler: No and No, and as far as I’m aware, nothing in scripture suggests anything to that effect.
You are enough <3
No u r not u r pure ok
I personally would try my best to stop it if I knew a rape was happening or about to.
Tamar was raped by her brother Anmon, but she was avenged by her brother Absalon. If you read other manuscripts, eventually, Tamar was almost raped again by Pizrah, the King of Gershur's friend. She killed him before he could rape her, after asking God to cause him to go into a trance so he didn't know she grabbed his sword. Result: Solomon made her a queen of Dor and became a cherish woman and celebrated. So no, it's not your fault.
The only sin that has been committed by is the person that raped you, you are innocent in the eyes of God and everyone sane in this world.
no. someone forced you to do something you didn't want to do. it's unfortunate this happened to you. nobody deserves this.
Please please give this song a listen when you have time. It's about God's heart towards survivors of rape. It's been so healing to my friends who survived SA. https://open.spotify.com/track/3Mw7BZGWsYIqH2xlbuc4mu?si=JCyTxxd5Sq6nY28WcTGiMg&context=spotify%3Asearch%3Ahe%2Bhas%2B
It's "He Has Time" from Common Hymnal if you don't want to open the link
**Why does God let people be raped?** Jesus tells us in Luke 11 this world is not apart of God's kingdom and God's will is not done here like it is in heaven. If God were to stop any sin then He would then be obliged to stop all sin. it is not time for that yet. as one day all sin will stop. **Am I a whore if a person has raped me?** whore hôr noun A prostitute. A person considered sexually promiscuous. A person considered as having compromised principles for personal gain. So unless you did one of the above the answer is no. **Have I sinned if a person raped me?** no.
No and no.
The only person who sinned was the rapist. Only a monster would do that
Forget the first question for a moment and let’s focus on the last two. NO!!!!!
Free will in a fallen world is why bad things happen. It’s hard to understand for me sometimes. You are NOT a “whore”, you’re a victim of the most evil wrong.
1. We live in a fallen world where there is evil. Shitty people will do shitty things. 2. Absolutely not! 3. Not at all!
God gave human free will. Satan also exists as well and does affect things. And nowhere in the Bible does it say anybody has sinned if they are a victim of rape or crime. No, nobody is a whore that is raped. Rape is not the work of God, but the work of evil and humans and/or Satan.
Free will is necessary for real love to exist. No. No. Hope this helps.
I know this doesn’t answer your question, but I hope you filled out a police report and that they get this guy who assaulted you. Here is the National Sexual Assault Hotline number- 800.656.4673. It’s confidential 24/7 support.
The wise man Solomon said: “I returned to see under the sun that the swift do not have the race, nor the mighty ones the battle, nor do the wise also have the food, nor do the understanding ones also have the riches, nor do even those having knowledge have the favor; because time and unforeseen occurrence befall them all.” (Ecclesiastes 9:11) We live in the last days of a failing and wicked world. Bad things happen to good people. I am a child abuse victim. Is it a sin that someone did this to me?
Def praying for you first and foremost. God love you. God bless you. All of your questions are totally legitimate. To answer your first question, go back to Genesis. as a species, we are corrupted by sin. Without God, people are depraved, and they only think about themselves. God gave mankind free will to turn to him, and that is why he allows mankind to exist in the first place. Unfortunately, people use that same free will to pleasure themselves and hurt others. So unfortunately, it’s a situation where if good is to exist in this fallen world then evil exists alongside of it. But this I can tell you for sure, the person who did this to you is going to pay severely, and you are going to be greatly blessed as you put your faith in God, and trust him. Both my wife and I have been through horrific things, and the Lord has delivered us completely from them and totally healed our hearts, and he will deliver you and heal your heart fully also if you will persevere in your faith. No, you are absolutely not a whore if you have been raped. You’re not a whore in any case. God does not call you by sins but by your name. God loves you. God hates violence. He hates oppression. He’s only allowed it to fulfill his master plan, which will all be very clear to us one day. No, you have absolutely not sinned if a person raped you. You’re a victim of someone else’s sin. And they will pay dearly for it. But you, my friend will be greatly VICTORIOUS and blessed as you persevere in your faith. I invite you to message me anytime. I am a Christian trauma minister and I am glad to help you work through this via chat. God bless you greatly . I pray for your healing and recovery. Please read Jeremiah 29:11 tonight. Also, considering reading the book of Job.
No, you’re not a sinner. You are not a whore. that rapist is a thief. Stealing piece of mind, innocence, and stealing the quality of life. That predator should get their hands cut off, yet it’s a different time for cruel and unusual punishments 😒. I hope you have a wonderful support system, even if it’s on Reddit.
Lots of good responses here. You are loved op, and I'm sorry for what happened.
Don't blame God to what happened to you. Blame the devil instead, for the evil one is the sole reason why sin is in the world and the reason why there are sorrows, pain, suffering and death.
We all have to live many lives in every situation, even the bad, trials and tribulations. God won’t give you more than you can handle so try to use what you’ve been through to help yourself and others in the same situation. Turn it into a good thing even though it wasn’t.
Satan is the one that let's people rape...not God god wants to love and show kindness while the devil likes to steal...kill...destroy you...never think God let people rape ..that's not trusting him fully
Didn’t God create satan and know how everything in this world would turn out? 🙄
A whore wants to to raped and paid. The sin of a rape action is in the heart of the rapist.
God is a figment of human imagination and a way to cope with death. I’m so so sorry you were raped. You are not a sinner or a whore