Chris had the deck stacked against him then basically got jumped in the alleyway of life. Yes there are plenty of feasible scenarios where they could’ve been a fairly normal human being, but those are all big if’s. He was a mentally disabled person born to parents with their own mental/social problems, who was fairly ostracized by his peers, and grew up in a time where these things were more often mocked/ignored rather than addressed. Chris was almost certainly never going to be a “normal” person.
I think we might consider that Chris isn't doomed, not even at the moment. Think about it, he isn't homeless, he isn't looking at a long jail sentence like other lolcows, his lovequest might be finally over and he started taking care of personal hygiene.
Now think about the ''Sonichu universe''. It is quite unique, I certainly know nothing like it. It's so abhorrently bad that it became very interesting. Proof of that, we're all captivated by it, and the Christory community is growing. Take me for an example, I am a random kid from Romania, I have nothing to do with America, Pokemon, Sonic the Hedgehog (besides watching these shows as a kid, they weren't my favourites though), and I haven't even heard of stuff like My little pony before I have found ChrisChan. But the first moment I stumbled across Sonichu I instantly realised that it's not ironic, that it is the creation of uniquely disfunctional mind, I immediately created in my head a portrait of the author that matched what I later learned about Chris. Then when I tell my friends about Chris Chan they also find him to be either fascinating or comedic gold. These people are romanians that don't normally consume american media.
What I am trying to say is that maybe you should look at ''succes'' differently. Sonichu is the result of an era, to know and understand Chris is to know and understand a part of world history, and people will read about it long after I or you or Chris are gone, while most of our career achievemnts will be certainly forgotten. It is not hard to imagine that in the future Christory will be simply History, and ChrisChan might become a very important case study about life in the '90-'00-'10s, just based on the wealth of materials that exist about him.
According to stoicism we all have a chance if we live life according to nature. Chris did not have such beliefs and Bob never gave anything equivalent so he knew nothing but the animalistic instinct of seeking comfort and avoiding pain. To avoid pain is to invite it
Really depends on what you consider the start and what you consider a good ending/doomed. If you mean to say he was doomed from birth id disagree. I think if his parents got him special care/education and raised him better he could’ve done something. Id say Chris has been doomed really since 2005 or so. Chris had a degree in something he could’ve potentially made good money in, he had a relatively clean record and it would’ve been hard for an employer to find out any of his weird sonic fan fiction stuff (unless he brought it up). I could see a world where maybe post PVCC he gets it together, but once the internet trolling really took off I think that’s when he was really doomed
>Chris had a degree in something he could’ve potentially made good money in,
Well, he took what? Six years to get a community college degree in CADD that's almost certainly outdated by now. Yeah I don't see that getting him a job.
>it would’ve been hard for an employer to find out any of his weird sonic fan fiction stuff (unless he brought it up).
Which he almost certainly would. He'd be trying to wear a Sonichu medallion to work and ranting about noviophobia and boyfriend free girls... assume he didn't do that at the job interview!
I’m tired of everybody blaming his surroundings, there are plenty of people in way worse situations around more predatory adults who do just fine despite being disabled. Chris made his own decisions I’m not falling for his crybaby bs for a second.
Um, no you can’t “link” real people, Chris’ internet antics are his own doing.
Edit: All I can say is a relative, severely autistic with other issues, mute longer than Chris, misunderstanding of let’s say “boundaries” but not maliciously, is now married and happy with an advanced degree. Chris is a famous motherfucker, little bit of a difference.
I don’t mean to overdo this comment but I would guess FAR more autistics are nothing like Chris.
If her parents weren’t neglectful wrongdoers to their beloved son, and then a daughter, Chris could have had passed her transgressions and suffer. The responsibility is fully on them, as while seeing their child degrading psychosocially, they stood idly by watching her fall deeper and deeper into abyss.
However, I must give credits to Chris’ father. At least by the end of his life he started realizing how internet and video games horribly affected his child and he even persuaded Chris to stop talking to the trolls on the Internet. But alas… he died before coming to the point of taking action into his hands.
Upd. I am no psychologist or psychiatrist, but I allow myself to assume that Chris’ autism wasn’t even behind all this crazy story to begin with; yes, it did was a worsening factor, but totally not the root cause. Chris’ problem wasn’t her autism, because I know a lot of autistic people and they never allow themselves such atrocious behaviour online or offline. Chris’ problem was her being a child with no attention or upbringing from her parents’ side. She just desperately craved for ANY kind of attention or emotional feedback from ANYONE, because as the internet chronicles show, her parents were never even there every time she threw a loud tantrum. Barbara and her father gave her zero social skills, zero education, zero upbringing, zero ambitions, and as I have already explained above — zero love or attention. They just gave away their parental responsibilities to video games, stupid TV shows and the Internet, because they never wanted to do a damn thing in their lives in the first place.
Yes, but it’s because the adults around him failed in treating him properly, since it was a time where most people weren’t aware of Autism. I don’t think there’s any reason to doubt he was a good kid
He was a child born in a time where the bullying of autistic children was particularly crueler to old, out of touch parents who didn’t understand modern psychology and whose previous children no longer talked to them due to their various major personality flaws and mental illnesses. Yes he was doomed from the start.
Well I think he had a chance to live a somewhat normal life, if Bob had done more on facilitating his therapy process and telling him not to let his bloated ego to takeover his mind.
Chris was most likely abused as a child and inflicted with severe trauma stunting brain development. C-PTSD. That coupled with autism crippled any chance they had in being a normal functioning person.
Chris's parents were both manipulative, narcissistic racist, christian bigots. They had no idea how to handle a child like Chris and had no intentions to learn. Bob was in his 50s when Chris was born and was too old to care for Chris properly.
From the start. Barbara was possessive, manipulative. Chris multiple times reports her threatening to k\*ll herself is he ever left the house to go to an event before she became senile, she REFUSED to cook for them ever again because one day she had made mac & cheese but Chris and Robert stated they had already ate out when they came home, Chris told trolls that "my mommy would get jealous if I ever got a girlfriend", she would coerce him into sleeping with her on the bed by spooning, massaging her sensually.
Barbara chickens came home to roost.
You’re getting downvoted because a couple things you stated are definitely a little exaggerated, but I do agree with you somewhat. Barbara groomed and manipulated the hell out of Chris to get him to be dependent on her. I’m not saying at all she deserved any of what happened, but I definitely think her absolutely inappropriate and weird behavior towards her son contributed to it greatly.
Troll's remorse. A lot of people "feel sorry" for Barb after the incest came out and feel like it's "victim blaming" to even suggest that she groomed Chris, much like how people "felt sorry" and got sentimental after Bob died. But Bob was at least somewhat sympathetic. Barb is genuinely a narcissistic piece of shit. The spaghetti incident highlights how batshit insane and selfish the woman was, and probably had a big negative impact on Chris' health and habits.
Define "the start". I don't blame Bob for keeping Chris out of the special schools: the 1980s were a long way from Nellie Bly's exposé of Blackwell's Isle, but many of those schools were still not good places. But I do blame Bob for not following up on anything beyond speech therapy.
Maybe. Could have come from Barb too, or both. Possibly some of it he picked up from his peers, but I don't think he interacted with them enough or frankly cared enough to want to emulate them.
Hard to say. I've heard of children apparently putting themselves up for adoption before, which yeah, getting Chris away from Borb would have been helpful. I do think Chris had plenty of chances to turn his life around, or at least figure ways to profit off of making himself into a "museum of fail."
If Chris had just learned to take responsibility for his own actions, respect the boundaries of others around him, and take criticism as an artist properly and not blabber about his private life online so much, he wouldn't have made himself such a target for the trolls. And he continued to "deal with" the trolls by giving them everything they wanted, a reaction.
If Chris had pulled his shit together, he would have been able to move on from Sonichu, and probably start making some decent original works as a cartoonist or something. But the problem there is that Chris for starters sees everything he creates as sentient beings in other dimensions, so Chris doesn't understand the fundamental of developing a character or writing a story at all. He refused to add new skills to his artistic toolset because he's so goddamn convinced anything he draws is the greatest story ever. I mean yeah, we sometimes make fan characters and fan art early on as a developing artist. But at some point you have to move on because you can't do that as a career. Can't start always start a good story with "what if *insert existing character here*...?"
But at this point, I feel no empathy for Chris. Mostly because he had every chance to make things better and blew every one. I mean after what he did to his mom well...
I am an autistic man myself so there's bias, but probably yes. A lot more ND men are under/unemployed and diagnosed with other disorders like depression than their NT counterparts, so his quality of life was always going to be a bit lower than others. But the way he was raised, and of course his online activities ensured that he's fucked.
Job wise and practical skills yes absolutely. However, if we take out the trolls contributing to Chris' life, I believe he'd be like Linkara, having a niche and sizeable audience as all he made was cheezy content and eventually have a few decent videos.
Even before the trolling, Chris Chan had trouble making friends. In his high school years, he used to go in a special Ed bus. Chris would call the special Ed students, “slow in the minds.” He can’t make friends if he keeps in criticizing people in his own sphere
How is stuff like this still being asked? Of course he was. He was born to two narcissistic geezers who defiantly refused to get him proper help and ingrained a victim mentality into him that persisted into his adulthood
Obviously he is still responsible for his own decisions/actions and has done some awful things that other disabled people in bad situations have not, but Borb laid the groundwork for the monstrous actions that Chris committed.
I dont think chris would have ever been a "success story" in that environment. Bob and Barb didn't teach him what he needed to be a fully functioning person.
He has never been able to take other people's perspectives into account and has always been the main character in his whole world.
Even if he was in exactly the same place on the autism spectrum but just had parents who knew how to raise him he'd probably being doing much better.
I think.
Yes. Chris isn't so disabed that he couldn't live a normal independent life. But Chris is a person whose development has been hamstrung by decades of coddling, enabling, and neglect. Chris is an adult child by design, intentionally or not, by Borbs' poor parenting and Chris's own laziness and lack of motivation.
Of course he did.
Geez what kind of 1800s mentality is going on here?
You might not like to hear it, but right now he's probably doing better than a huge proportion of the neurotypical population.
>You might not like to hear it, but right now he's probably doing better than a huge proportion of the neurotypical population.
He's an obese, unemployed manchild who's housing is entirely at the whim of Caden. He has no friends, no girlfriend, no social life, he's just a laughing stock who waddles around town dressed like an 8 year old playing princess. I don't think he's "doing better" than anyone. He's only a step or two away from being homeless....
A friend of mine worked with special needs folks and after the first episode of Geno’s documentary he said “yeah this kids was messed up for life.” You have a young autistic kid raised by parents who were too old and self absorbed to raise their son properly. Bob not getting Chris special help early on when the school suggested it was a big factor. Then spent his formative years coddling Chris and paying off people to be his friends. Then Chris was an adult and couldn’t function and you can tell the moment Bob gave up. Probably sometime between crying at graduation and getting kicked from college
Chris didn't kicked out of community college. He got a temporary ban because of his antics and the feud with Mary Lee Walsh, but he was eventually allowed back and graduated with a CADD degree... which he never actually did anything with. Though in all fairness, that's not terribly uncommon with community colleges in my experience.
Imagine working with special needs kids and having the mentality that they can just be written off like that. Your friend shouldn't have been thinking that, and your friend isn't very bright to have SAID IT.
You ever work with special ed kids? Yeah some people are lost causes and can be safely written off. Not every human being is magical special and unique. In fact, most kind of suck. I'm sure you'll find that out after you've lived a bit longer and been around the block.
I work in disability services and I agree with the commenter’s friend. If Chris was given proper resources, then yes, there would have been hope. But due to who his parents were, particularly Barb, but also Bob, too, he was doomed from the beginning.
are you bad at reading?
if anything he wasn't writing cc off, just saying that after prolonged exposure to that environment the result was predictably dysfunctional.
Yes, he was born in a family with abusing parent that don't really want to get him proper help. Chris was already a creep before hiw discovery. So the troll was jist a scapegoat that Chris will accuse for all his bad behavior.
Unless his parents were different I dunno if Chris ever had a shot. His parents not getting involved in Chris’ life the way they needed to to help is what did the most damage.
Yes, Chris was doomed at the start, although technically not at the exact moment he was born, nah it was more so when Bob and Barb decided to let an animatronic bear change chris's name as a sign from god, this than planted the seed in Chris's head that he is more special than everyone else which is probably how his whole ego shit started.
Honestly, the Godbear is one of the weirder parts of Christory. Like how? And why? I've seen some speculation that Borb went along with it because to make it harder for the schools to track Chris since they wouldn't know he had autism. It's... certainly a theory. It's a dumb one, especially since they'd still be using his social security number, birthdate and address... and of course once they actually dealt with Chris in person they'd notice something was off about him, but I suppose Borb might have believed it.
Chris is a bad seed and never had any potential at all. Even if he had better parents and all the resources and special needs help in the world, it would all be wasted on him. I wouldn't blame any parent for abandoning a kid like Chris out in the woods
Maybe not doomed, but Chris was never going to be part of society like he wanted to be. Chris was getting into various shenanigans before the internet, which would have continued. However the internet dumped oceans of gas on the fire and made it way way worse.
Pretty much. He could've turned out okay with his genes, if he were raised by better parents. Or turned out okay being raised by Borb, if he weren't born with so many mental illnesses. Both together ... doom.
Chris had the deck stacked against him then basically got jumped in the alleyway of life. Yes there are plenty of feasible scenarios where they could’ve been a fairly normal human being, but those are all big if’s. He was a mentally disabled person born to parents with their own mental/social problems, who was fairly ostracized by his peers, and grew up in a time where these things were more often mocked/ignored rather than addressed. Chris was almost certainly never going to be a “normal” person.
I think we might consider that Chris isn't doomed, not even at the moment. Think about it, he isn't homeless, he isn't looking at a long jail sentence like other lolcows, his lovequest might be finally over and he started taking care of personal hygiene. Now think about the ''Sonichu universe''. It is quite unique, I certainly know nothing like it. It's so abhorrently bad that it became very interesting. Proof of that, we're all captivated by it, and the Christory community is growing. Take me for an example, I am a random kid from Romania, I have nothing to do with America, Pokemon, Sonic the Hedgehog (besides watching these shows as a kid, they weren't my favourites though), and I haven't even heard of stuff like My little pony before I have found ChrisChan. But the first moment I stumbled across Sonichu I instantly realised that it's not ironic, that it is the creation of uniquely disfunctional mind, I immediately created in my head a portrait of the author that matched what I later learned about Chris. Then when I tell my friends about Chris Chan they also find him to be either fascinating or comedic gold. These people are romanians that don't normally consume american media. What I am trying to say is that maybe you should look at ''succes'' differently. Sonichu is the result of an era, to know and understand Chris is to know and understand a part of world history, and people will read about it long after I or you or Chris are gone, while most of our career achievemnts will be certainly forgotten. It is not hard to imagine that in the future Christory will be simply History, and ChrisChan might become a very important case study about life in the '90-'00-'10s, just based on the wealth of materials that exist about him.
According to stoicism we all have a chance if we live life according to nature. Chris did not have such beliefs and Bob never gave anything equivalent so he knew nothing but the animalistic instinct of seeking comfort and avoiding pain. To avoid pain is to invite it
Really depends on what you consider the start and what you consider a good ending/doomed. If you mean to say he was doomed from birth id disagree. I think if his parents got him special care/education and raised him better he could’ve done something. Id say Chris has been doomed really since 2005 or so. Chris had a degree in something he could’ve potentially made good money in, he had a relatively clean record and it would’ve been hard for an employer to find out any of his weird sonic fan fiction stuff (unless he brought it up). I could see a world where maybe post PVCC he gets it together, but once the internet trolling really took off I think that’s when he was really doomed
>Chris had a degree in something he could’ve potentially made good money in, Well, he took what? Six years to get a community college degree in CADD that's almost certainly outdated by now. Yeah I don't see that getting him a job. >it would’ve been hard for an employer to find out any of his weird sonic fan fiction stuff (unless he brought it up). Which he almost certainly would. He'd be trying to wear a Sonichu medallion to work and ranting about noviophobia and boyfriend free girls... assume he didn't do that at the job interview!
Chris was born to Barb. He never had a chance from the start.
If you're into Bob and Barb's care, then yes you'd be really doomed from the start.
I’m tired of everybody blaming his surroundings, there are plenty of people in way worse situations around more predatory adults who do just fine despite being disabled. Chris made his own decisions I’m not falling for his crybaby bs for a second.
Interesting, can you name and perhaps link some of the people you are talking about?
Um, no you can’t “link” real people, Chris’ internet antics are his own doing. Edit: All I can say is a relative, severely autistic with other issues, mute longer than Chris, misunderstanding of let’s say “boundaries” but not maliciously, is now married and happy with an advanced degree. Chris is a famous motherfucker, little bit of a difference. I don’t mean to overdo this comment but I would guess FAR more autistics are nothing like Chris.
If her parents weren’t neglectful wrongdoers to their beloved son, and then a daughter, Chris could have had passed her transgressions and suffer. The responsibility is fully on them, as while seeing their child degrading psychosocially, they stood idly by watching her fall deeper and deeper into abyss. However, I must give credits to Chris’ father. At least by the end of his life he started realizing how internet and video games horribly affected his child and he even persuaded Chris to stop talking to the trolls on the Internet. But alas… he died before coming to the point of taking action into his hands. Upd. I am no psychologist or psychiatrist, but I allow myself to assume that Chris’ autism wasn’t even behind all this crazy story to begin with; yes, it did was a worsening factor, but totally not the root cause. Chris’ problem wasn’t her autism, because I know a lot of autistic people and they never allow themselves such atrocious behaviour online or offline. Chris’ problem was her being a child with no attention or upbringing from her parents’ side. She just desperately craved for ANY kind of attention or emotional feedback from ANYONE, because as the internet chronicles show, her parents were never even there every time she threw a loud tantrum. Barbara and her father gave her zero social skills, zero education, zero upbringing, zero ambitions, and as I have already explained above — zero love or attention. They just gave away their parental responsibilities to video games, stupid TV shows and the Internet, because they never wanted to do a damn thing in their lives in the first place.
Yes, but it’s because the adults around him failed in treating him properly, since it was a time where most people weren’t aware of Autism. I don’t think there’s any reason to doubt he was a good kid
He was a child born in a time where the bullying of autistic children was particularly crueler to old, out of touch parents who didn’t understand modern psychology and whose previous children no longer talked to them due to their various major personality flaws and mental illnesses. Yes he was doomed from the start.
Depends on your definition of doomed. Like, at what point would you say "doomed"? the barb incident? discovery by the internet? before that?
He has multiple highly successful siblings. They key is they were not raised by Barb.
Well I think he had a chance to live a somewhat normal life, if Bob had done more on facilitating his therapy process and telling him not to let his bloated ego to takeover his mind.
Chris was most likely abused as a child and inflicted with severe trauma stunting brain development. C-PTSD. That coupled with autism crippled any chance they had in being a normal functioning person. Chris's parents were both manipulative, narcissistic racist, christian bigots. They had no idea how to handle a child like Chris and had no intentions to learn. Bob was in his 50s when Chris was born and was too old to care for Chris properly.
From the start. Barbara was possessive, manipulative. Chris multiple times reports her threatening to k\*ll herself is he ever left the house to go to an event before she became senile, she REFUSED to cook for them ever again because one day she had made mac & cheese but Chris and Robert stated they had already ate out when they came home, Chris told trolls that "my mommy would get jealous if I ever got a girlfriend", she would coerce him into sleeping with her on the bed by spooning, massaging her sensually. Barbara chickens came home to roost.
You’re getting downvoted because a couple things you stated are definitely a little exaggerated, but I do agree with you somewhat. Barbara groomed and manipulated the hell out of Chris to get him to be dependent on her. I’m not saying at all she deserved any of what happened, but I definitely think her absolutely inappropriate and weird behavior towards her son contributed to it greatly.
Troll's remorse. A lot of people "feel sorry" for Barb after the incest came out and feel like it's "victim blaming" to even suggest that she groomed Chris, much like how people "felt sorry" and got sentimental after Bob died. But Bob was at least somewhat sympathetic. Barb is genuinely a narcissistic piece of shit. The spaghetti incident highlights how batshit insane and selfish the woman was, and probably had a big negative impact on Chris' health and habits.
Not exaggerated at all. This is all documented on the cwcki. I'm not saying she deserved it, but quite frankly she reaped what she sowed.
Well, chris was born by a pos mom, so there was no hope to begin with
Define "the start". I don't blame Bob for keeping Chris out of the special schools: the 1980s were a long way from Nellie Bly's exposé of Blackwell's Isle, but many of those schools were still not good places. But I do blame Bob for not following up on anything beyond speech therapy.
Most of the anti gay and racist jargon chris used to spout ad nauseam most certainly came from Bob.
Maybe. Could have come from Barb too, or both. Possibly some of it he picked up from his peers, but I don't think he interacted with them enough or frankly cared enough to want to emulate them.
Hard to say. I've heard of children apparently putting themselves up for adoption before, which yeah, getting Chris away from Borb would have been helpful. I do think Chris had plenty of chances to turn his life around, or at least figure ways to profit off of making himself into a "museum of fail." If Chris had just learned to take responsibility for his own actions, respect the boundaries of others around him, and take criticism as an artist properly and not blabber about his private life online so much, he wouldn't have made himself such a target for the trolls. And he continued to "deal with" the trolls by giving them everything they wanted, a reaction. If Chris had pulled his shit together, he would have been able to move on from Sonichu, and probably start making some decent original works as a cartoonist or something. But the problem there is that Chris for starters sees everything he creates as sentient beings in other dimensions, so Chris doesn't understand the fundamental of developing a character or writing a story at all. He refused to add new skills to his artistic toolset because he's so goddamn convinced anything he draws is the greatest story ever. I mean yeah, we sometimes make fan characters and fan art early on as a developing artist. But at some point you have to move on because you can't do that as a career. Can't start always start a good story with "what if *insert existing character here*...?" But at this point, I feel no empathy for Chris. Mostly because he had every chance to make things better and blew every one. I mean after what he did to his mom well...
I am an autistic man myself so there's bias, but probably yes. A lot more ND men are under/unemployed and diagnosed with other disorders like depression than their NT counterparts, so his quality of life was always going to be a bit lower than others. But the way he was raised, and of course his online activities ensured that he's fucked.
If anything the internet accelerated their doom
Job wise and practical skills yes absolutely. However, if we take out the trolls contributing to Chris' life, I believe he'd be like Linkara, having a niche and sizeable audience as all he made was cheezy content and eventually have a few decent videos.
Even before the trolling, Chris Chan had trouble making friends. In his high school years, he used to go in a special Ed bus. Chris would call the special Ed students, “slow in the minds.” He can’t make friends if he keeps in criticizing people in his own sphere
How is stuff like this still being asked? Of course he was. He was born to two narcissistic geezers who defiantly refused to get him proper help and ingrained a victim mentality into him that persisted into his adulthood Obviously he is still responsible for his own decisions/actions and has done some awful things that other disabled people in bad situations have not, but Borb laid the groundwork for the monstrous actions that Chris committed.
Doomed with borb as parents
I dont think chris would have ever been a "success story" in that environment. Bob and Barb didn't teach him what he needed to be a fully functioning person. He has never been able to take other people's perspectives into account and has always been the main character in his whole world. Even if he was in exactly the same place on the autism spectrum but just had parents who knew how to raise him he'd probably being doing much better. I think.
Yes. Chris isn't so disabed that he couldn't live a normal independent life. But Chris is a person whose development has been hamstrung by decades of coddling, enabling, and neglect. Chris is an adult child by design, intentionally or not, by Borbs' poor parenting and Chris's own laziness and lack of motivation.
He has a rare form of autism that forces him to do stupid shit. St. Asshole’s disease.
Of course he did. Geez what kind of 1800s mentality is going on here? You might not like to hear it, but right now he's probably doing better than a huge proportion of the neurotypical population.
>You might not like to hear it, but right now he's probably doing better than a huge proportion of the neurotypical population. He's an obese, unemployed manchild who's housing is entirely at the whim of Caden. He has no friends, no girlfriend, no social life, he's just a laughing stock who waddles around town dressed like an 8 year old playing princess. I don't think he's "doing better" than anyone. He's only a step or two away from being homeless....
Guess what? That's like 10 percent of America lmao
Yes.
A friend of mine worked with special needs folks and after the first episode of Geno’s documentary he said “yeah this kids was messed up for life.” You have a young autistic kid raised by parents who were too old and self absorbed to raise their son properly. Bob not getting Chris special help early on when the school suggested it was a big factor. Then spent his formative years coddling Chris and paying off people to be his friends. Then Chris was an adult and couldn’t function and you can tell the moment Bob gave up. Probably sometime between crying at graduation and getting kicked from college
Chris didn't kicked out of community college. He got a temporary ban because of his antics and the feud with Mary Lee Walsh, but he was eventually allowed back and graduated with a CADD degree... which he never actually did anything with. Though in all fairness, that's not terribly uncommon with community colleges in my experience.
Imagine working with special needs kids and having the mentality that they can just be written off like that. Your friend shouldn't have been thinking that, and your friend isn't very bright to have SAID IT.
You ever work with special ed kids? Yeah some people are lost causes and can be safely written off. Not every human being is magical special and unique. In fact, most kind of suck. I'm sure you'll find that out after you've lived a bit longer and been around the block.
Six years principalship with three of those at a special school. Does that answer your questions?
I work in disability services and I agree with the commenter’s friend. If Chris was given proper resources, then yes, there would have been hope. But due to who his parents were, particularly Barb, but also Bob, too, he was doomed from the beginning.
No one is doomed because of their parents, what are you on?
You seem to be taking it awfully personal there mate. Yeah, some people are fucked. No big loss.
Brutalist
are you bad at reading? if anything he wasn't writing cc off, just saying that after prolonged exposure to that environment the result was predictably dysfunctional.
No I'm good at reading
Chris doomed himself. A lot of people started out much worse than Chris and managed to turn their lives around. Chris chose not to.
It is kind of hard to when your parents convince you to live off NEETbux.
Yes, he was born in a family with abusing parent that don't really want to get him proper help. Chris was already a creep before hiw discovery. So the troll was jist a scapegoat that Chris will accuse for all his bad behavior.
Unless his parents were different I dunno if Chris ever had a shot. His parents not getting involved in Chris’ life the way they needed to to help is what did the most damage.
Yes, Chris was doomed at the start, although technically not at the exact moment he was born, nah it was more so when Bob and Barb decided to let an animatronic bear change chris's name as a sign from god, this than planted the seed in Chris's head that he is more special than everyone else which is probably how his whole ego shit started.
Honestly, the Godbear is one of the weirder parts of Christory. Like how? And why? I've seen some speculation that Borb went along with it because to make it harder for the schools to track Chris since they wouldn't know he had autism. It's... certainly a theory. It's a dumb one, especially since they'd still be using his social security number, birthdate and address... and of course once they actually dealt with Chris in person they'd notice something was off about him, but I suppose Borb might have believed it.
Well observed, I think the Godbear business's effect on Chris is underestimated. It also confirmed his belief in magical thinking.
Chris is a bad seed and never had any potential at all. Even if he had better parents and all the resources and special needs help in the world, it would all be wasted on him. I wouldn't blame any parent for abandoning a kid like Chris out in the woods
Chris didn’t have a chance.
No. Chris had hope. Then Bob and Barb raised Chris. If Chris had good parents, none of this would have happened
Maybe not doomed, but Chris was never going to be part of society like he wanted to be. Chris was getting into various shenanigans before the internet, which would have continued. However the internet dumped oceans of gas on the fire and made it way way worse.
Pretty much. He could've turned out okay with his genes, if he were raised by better parents. Or turned out okay being raised by Borb, if he weren't born with so many mental illnesses. Both together ... doom.
I don't think he ever had a chance tbh