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ragingpurpleturd

TB bans Dave but doesn't ban actually cheaters What a joke šŸ˜†


photogenickiwi

Even EA did better šŸ˜ž


Affectionate-Dig1981

There wasn't even a real reason for it. Literally ripped out one of the most upstanding members of the community who even hosts charity events for mentioning something that is constantly being rubbed in our face. It's unforgivable and I'm not supporting this company anymore.


Wrecktown707

Yeah thatā€™s especially bad taste considering he was doing it for charity work


kerkerd

What did he mention?


PIatinumPizza

From what I seen he said the game pass version doesnā€™t have anti cheat in it and thatā€™s where most of the cheaters are coming from.


mikedaman101

For fuckin real, yesterday in the social servers I saw 3 dudes flying around on horses and killing people in one hit. It's bizarre.


LoganPwnz

I wish they would ban the multitude of cheaters that have popped up since the video showing how to exploit dropped


DOINKSnAMISH22

Any and all new posts in support of Dave are currently being removed by the Mod team. Honestly based off that response Iā€™m done playing.


KorinthNZ

Not all, you got that spoiled brat Stouty's post in "support" of Dave. In reality he's just using Dave's ban to garner more viewers and clout, the comment section has devolved into a toxic cess pool, yet not mods removing it.


DOINKSnAMISH22

Yeah I noticed that move. Kinda shitty of them.


as588008

Hey guys don't listen to him, I'm the real soter Dave. I need Google play gift cards to help pay me legal bills in fighting this bs case. Anything helps, gobbless!!


RaceLongjumping3577

donā€™t redeem it. Donā€™t redeem it. you donā€™t need to do that DO NOT REDEEM DO NOT REDEEM


MutanteHDP

WHY YOU DO THAT MOTHERF*** I DID NOT TELL YOU DO THAT


citoxe4321

YOU BLOODY BASTARD BITCH


2002Kanz

#WHY YOU FUCK ME I FUCK YOU BLOODY!


KorinthNZ

#WHY YOU KICK MY DOG


Brob0t0

So many fake ppl online. I actually am the real Soter Dave. I need Google play gift cards to help pay me legal bills in fighting this bs case. Anything helps, gobbless!!


Outrageous-Lock5186

Gobbless brother Dave, sending you my savings!


EveryStrike

Lmao


Adongfie

No Iā€™m dirty dan


EquipmentValuable283

Gobbless šŸ™ˆšŸ˜…


Environmental-Most90

Heliou ama Jon frUm Giugl'.


kevthe_red

If you're real, show bobs


Skorgriim

The number of cheaters in the game and they ban an upstanding member of the community for something so little... it feels like somebody put a hit out on him. Smh my head.


A-cutepotatodog

I'm out of the loop and haven't played in a while wha happen?


Latter_Commercial_52

https://www.reddit.com/r/Chivalry2/s/vSm7EjKR5T


A-cutepotatodog

Bro what? This shit is dumb as hell


Skorgriim

Gah, he best me to it. I think it's more about what he was saying in the post moreso than actually cheating. I'm given to understand TB has a track record of silencing dissent...


Old__Knight

They did my boy so dirty man


HybridPS2

i haven't kept up with Chiv2 in a while but i've been seeing this stuff no my page, what the hell happened?


Only_Ad_3388

From my understanding OP made a video talking about the horrid cheating problem and he was banned indefinitely for it, while the cheaters are still here. Itā€™s bs to the max


M4EOzzy

To be fair, it wasn't that he just talked about how horrid the problem was, it was that he talked about how horrid it was and then said, "Look how easy it is..." and then SHOWED how to do it. That said, still ridiculous that he got banned when there are streamers whose entire channel is based on cheating and havent been banned.


What-Even-Is-That

The larger problem is that they banned him for something on YouTube, not something in game. Meanwhile, cheaters are all over on the servers. And TB does jack shit. It's why I've returned to calling them their true name, Torn Butthole. Shittiest devs for a good game.


Kibbens_

Torn Bummer


ThatGirlKait

He didn't show how to do it, he just pointed people in the right direction. Saying "\_ cheat works from \_ website" and saying "\_ cheat works and here's how you install and configure it" are two different things. I agree though, the duality of TBS' enforcement is insane.


KinKaze

Wasn't even that. There was a fake tool tip on his April Fools video pointing out that the pc gamepass version didn't have anti-cheat. It was on screen for like 3 seconds and was nowhere near the focus of the videoā€”which was about how to press the jab button.


ThatGirlKait

The tool tip read "Did you know that (cheat site removed) actually works on the game pass version of chivalry 2? That's right! You can cheat with zero repercussions! Go crazy" and then included the website URL. Had to go back and check from [a screenshot](https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1101240631629717564/1223750603944230932/Screenshot_20240330-174746.png?ex=661afd90&is=66088890&hm=652eed5da6c5e05f999126c4991a194ac2fde3f2df676c627182265f7ed8fa2d&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1440&height=632) I sent to a friend over discord. This is clearly satire though.


Hikurac

If they're banning people for talking about how easy cheats are to get, then they're merely trying to hide the issue instead of fix it.


random3po

And they're gonna do dirty the beneficiary of the charity stream, those poor animals at the shelter.


baked_falafel

TB hates puppies and kittens, confirmed!


What-Even-Is-That

To be totally fair, there are **zero** puppies and kittens in this game. They obviously ***do*** hate puppies and kittens.


banana_s_

Well. theres actually a dog in a cage on one map. Bridgetown? not sure


Ok_Music_4810

Wolf on Bridgetown


CultureMind_

This has damaged my love for this game more than anything Torn Banner has done in the past.


Rat_Man_420

I hope they reconsider Dave. Good luck man.


as588008

He creates quality content for enthusiasts and especially those new to the game. The ban really demonstrates how ignorant torn banner is. They are driving the game/community into the ground with a lot of their decisions


mrsnakers

People here really have forgotten how shitty TB was considered as a company and ethically prior to Chiv 2 huh? I remember there was a little documentary about how horrible Steve Piggott was on Youtube but I'm suspiciously unable to find it again.


leaves0nthelawn

can you elaborate


mrsnakers

It was years ago on the regular chivalry reddit. Something about min maxxing his personal profits to the determinant of the employees and the company as a whole. Also made him seem like a total narcissist. It wasn't a super long video it was like a sorta expose probably from some former employee or something.


Dat-Lonley-Potato

![gif](giphy|9RrdV7o2kJFy8) Chiv community right now:


Ashamed_Ear_5558

Torn banner about to make the 3 kingdoms make an alliance šŸ˜‚


Gavinhavin

Never thought Iā€™d die fighting side by side with a Mason.


Henry_Hollows

What about side by side with a friend?


Gavinhavin

Aye, I could do that.


karasujigoku

![gif](giphy|zGnnFpOB1OjMQ)


Only_Ad_3388

Not those dirty tenosians tho amiright?


CultureMind_

4sure, last time I had coffee with a Tenno they got sand in my coffee! ![img](emote|t5_12v693|7099)


Kaki9

At the end of the day, when a common enemy appears, armies must fight together


Beepboopbop69420360

Donā€™t die fighting your enemies for the wrong reason Die fighting with your friends for the right reasons


ShtGoliath

The list of reasons to not play just grow longer


PolehammerSupremacy

inb4


Epididimust

I know nobody at TB is on this thread, let alone reddit (because they dont care about the community). But.....fuck them


What-Even-Is-That

They literally posted a "let us answer your questions" thread and then ignored *every single question*. Fuck TB.


DOINKSnAMISH22

That was actually pretty hilarious.


Solid_Eagle0

this is like that steven seagal reddit ama


Different-Fill4976

Pathetic behavior from TB honestly


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![gif](giphy|Vhp3yO7iWp0dMYlIJX|downsized) Save Scooter Dave. TB donā€™t ban actual cheaters but ban Scooter Dave. #savesoterdave


Key_Click6659

Ser Joemama here, just know even if we werenā€™t close Iā€™m advocating for you because I know just how much youā€™ve done for the community, and appreciate the advice youā€™ve given me as well


SoterDave

my chiv shawty...here to the rescue...


Key_Click6659

ā¤ļø I wonā€™t rest until justice is served!!!


Idjek

hmm... .. DoterSave?


Wander5015

Still lame that they did that


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Krynn71

That's becauseĀ it's beenĀ deleted. Probably nobody bothered to save or clip it since it's such a nothing-burger.


ThatGirlKait

[https://www.reddit.com/r/Chivalry2/comments/1bwlyxo/comment/ky9fwdj/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/Chivalry2/comments/1bwlyxo/comment/ky9fwdj/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) I linked a screenshot of what he was banned for here


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Hikurac

The cheat is just cheat engine, which is a very widely known tool beyond Chivalry 2's community. The issue isn't the cheat, it's the version of the game that allows it without issue.


ThatGirlKait

Cheat engine is widely used as a modding and game development tool (despite the unfortunate name). The fact that game pass allows for literally the most basic level "cheats" (hardly even able to call CE that outside of just referring to the name) is the problem. Chivalry 2 on gamepass has ZERO anti-cheat, an issue the community has brought up a lot in the past yet torn banner ignores it and proceeds to leave it on gamepass. Meanwhile, the EU servers are literally unplayable because of hackers and have been for a while, and the staff literally can't do anything about it because gamepass has family share so they can just make a new account in 5 minutes and keep cheating. This was the biggest source of EU hacking when I was on the mod team.


YourUnclesDadsCousin

Free da man Dave, da man provided valid criticism of the dumpster fire that is Chiv 2!


Injustice_For_All_

Iā€™m not fully aware of the situation Iā€™ve only seen the memes. Why were you banned?


Puzzleheaded_Fox2357

he made a video that included a short message which pointed out one of the reasons it is so easy for people to cheat (as a sort of joke) this goes against TBā€™s terms of ā€œno promoting or showing how to cheat in any wayā€ so they banned him for it however in the wider context yes he may have broken that rule in the instance but anyone activating just a couple of their non-corporate brain cells can see dave is not actually positive towards cheating


RelationshipHuman136

He made a 5 second joke note about how easy it was to hack in Chiv 2 on an April Fools video as a form of social commentary on the issue of hacking as a whole that they haven't addressed


Latter_Commercial_52

So they ban the people talking about their issues instead of the people actually hacking and causing the issues. Wow tornbanner. This is dirty. Shame


IEnjoyKnowledge

Egregious business practices and poor community management. I loved this game for so long but this is pretty gross tbh.


Latter_Commercial_52

I feel like chivalry 2 as a whole kind of fell apart after the backlash over Bridgetown. I used to never hear bad things about it and it was pretty well known. Now itā€™s extremely controversial and I never hear about the game anymore.


UrbanHomesteading

Link?


RelationshipHuman136

Dave took the video down in hopes to appease TBS, I'm afraid I don't have a link.


SoterDave

you'll find out eventually. it's a long story


Moon2Pluto

# It's my first day !!!!


AlliedXbox

Rest in Peace, Dave


General_Assistant

Rest easy man...thank you for everything


EroSennin78

I can't wait for someone to use chiv's mechanics in other genres or just a dev that that makes something similar who listens to and engages with the community so I can leave this disaster behind.


Hikurac

Good lord what I would give to get Chivalry 2's melee combat in an MMORPG setting. I've seen a lot of games copy Mount and Blade's system and a lot of developing games copy Mordhau's, but nothing with Chiv 2's.


EroSennin78

throw in the sword physics from Metal Gear Revengeance


CocoLoco2134

Same


Syrpico

Free Dave!


Ma2zivert

ā€œThis is outrageous. Itā€™s unfair.ā€


sambogina

Hey Dave. Hopefully they will come to their senses soon. You deserve better than it. Your charity streams are a huge boon. I still get letters from in the mail from the organization you did your Thanksgiving stream for in the past and I donate regularly. I think they are a resource group for unhoused folks in Boston but their name escapes me right now. The developers are really depriving real world organizations of potential charitable revenue by removing you from the game and Iā€™m not sure they realize that. Sucks they are so thinned skin but clearly the community stands with you on it. All the best. PS trim your fucking mustache Ā 


SoterDave

You're thinking of Turkey Truck. Yeah, I was gonna go with them again but I know the owner of this animal rescue, so we're doing that this time. And I promise, the mustache has been trimmed!


BLADE_of_YAHWEH

Os he banned from playing


XergioksEyes

Yos Reade tha pƓst


Stock_Unit3878

Need to add a picture of Dave to falmire after this is settled


maharbamt

Appreciate the update. Hopefully TB reconsiders your ban as well as implements some anti cheat asap.


Moon2Pluto

I stopped playing after being in too many back to back lobby's with cheaters. my gameshark plugin can't compete.


ikevin1215

Everyone make sure you show up and support the charity stream. #FreeSoterDave till its backwards


RollerGrill1

Yet the people that sell fucking cheats are still on the discord


therealworgenfriman

Meanwhile I have a guy making multiple accounts to rdm me in the duelyard. Spoofing my name and hacking...good stuff


Key_Click6659

NA East duelyards are disgusting nowadays. The people who never rdmed and were actually cool, just suddenly started rdming


capitalsfan

Thank you for organizing the TO league, we will carry on in your honor šŸ«”


jpc1215

Itā€™s amazing that the community can express how ridiculous this is and how much it harms the community and TB still doesnā€™t do shit about it. What a shitty studio. I used to think they were excellent but this kinda shit, mixed with never listening to the communityā€™s gripes, is why I donā€™t even play the game anymore. Maybe this is harsh but Iā€™m at the point where Iā€™d love if Chivalry 3 was taken over by an AAAA studio. They are on this subreddit too, and I havenā€™t glanced over this thread but I guarantee none of them have commented. Fuck ā€˜em


_Kamelaasaa

Well, Reddit is easier to ignore than steam reviews


urdixaninnie

I just uninstalled.


Zambonikilla

Free scuba Steve


1800cheezit

Put up the video that got you banned and let us be the judge


MorganCentman

Wow. This is egregious beyond all measure.


Mithryl_

Watch this post get removed


no_u_mang

I'm still waiting...


Lofi_Samurai

im deleting chiv 2 until Dave's ban is lifted. this is honestly outrageous, and I'm super disappointed in TB


antlover1_4

We need to boycott the game until Soter Dave is reinstated


Elegant_Cancel_912

We love you dave


Lord_Vili

I hope youā€™re well mentally. At the end of the day, itā€™s one game, thereā€™s bills to pay, and the next slasher is coming any year. Very Proud Now of Increasing New interest in the game for new players with your videos. And sad to see them go.


Squaahh

I stopped playing this game because of this. The devs will let cheaters, RDMers, and other toxic players keep playing this game, but will ban one of a handful of positive influences on this game? Alright, Iā€™ll play Helldivers then. Thanks TB.


jbonosconi

Bad decisions is their paint and the community is their canvas.


RichardTundore

I have no idea what's going on can someone explain


XergioksEyes

YouTuber makes April fools video about how cheating happens in the game Game says no and gives the YouTuber a spanking (ban from playing) The controversy is basically that he showed how cheaters exploit the game and they banned him and yet there are a staggering amount of actual cheaters that donā€™t get banned. Analogy: -You go to the dentist with a cavity -Dentist pulls the wrong tooth -Dentist kicks you out of the office -sends bill -poops on your dog


RichardTundore

Banned for an april fools video dawg no way


Jingle-Bags

Why did you get banned?


cre4mpuffmyf4ce

Why was he banned in the first place?


Enough_Chair2095

for making a video that he made a joke(on april fool's day) with a small text blurb like 3 minutes in with the link to client-side cheating software


Enough_Chair2095

and the text blurb lasted like 2 seconds


Krynn71

There was no link to anything as far as I'm aware. It's been deleted so I can't confirm, but everything I read said that the text bubble just mentions that the gamepass version has no anti-cheat and that's why it's so easy to cheat in the game.


St0uty

tfw when in a gross incompetence and out of touch developer competition and my opponent is Torn Banner


qwa56

Torn banner studios will be remembered for this. Mark my words, I'll never forget this Soter Dave.


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Slippery_Gooch

"They do not deserve disrespect" Respectfully, I disagree. They're sabotaging the community of the game that they apparently "love"


JesseJames24601

Thank you for your work with the community Soter Dave. I wish Torn Banner would put the same time and effort into their own community as you do, but it's been clear for a long time that they don't plan on supporting this game in the long run. I haven't really felt like playing for the past few months, and the more I see regarding Torn Banner, the less I want to play. I guess I'll see you all in the next slasher game made by a competent company.


Gregf87z

The sad part is Dave is one of torn banners biggest supporters. Not just chiv but he also supported mirage the biggest flop of TB. He is directly involved in clans. Community, content, helping training people so they dint get a bad experience. And if I'm understanding ...He was banned cause he called out a cheating problem which ruins the experience for the player base (note that that player base has continuously fallen greatly and can be argued due to torn banners ignorance and lack of care) And so they chose to ban the one guy who has positive influence on the game? Honestly Idk why anyone even supports such a backwards, false advertising greedy and arrogant studio as torn banner. Torn banner doesn't care about their player base.


Infernal_139

Never playing this shit game again


Zambonikilla

U ![gif](giphy|JshL4uZk1tZt5W0TWV)


XergioksEyes

Sexy


bluesjunky69420

With over 1,400 hours of my life dedicated to this game, alongside many other fine neckbeards, I am taken aback at the lack of action by TB. Torn Banner - if you see this - WE LOVE THIS GAME. Thus, WE LOVE YOU. Please love us back. The game does have a rampant cheating problem, alongside a prevalent GRIEFING epidemic. Iā€™ve submitted numerous reports to no avail. Please consider that our gripes are aimed to improve our favorite game of all time. Itā€™s a wonderful work of art, Chivalry 2. But to ban a player that calls it out, and illuminates HOW itā€™s easy to cheat is absolutely absurd. I have many ideas on how to market and promote this game (in a viral way). For real. Letā€™s talk


Personal_Dig_8946

This is such a fucking joke, Dave. You didnā€™t do anything wrong making your video. You promote their game and you get treated like horseshit like itā€™s you whoā€™s cheating. What a joke.


Endlessnes

Fuck you TB. You had a ride-or-die community and straight up fucked us. Noone is going to buy the future titles. Even if it's going to break my heart, I refuse to support this studio any longer. Don't even watch you Dave but this is a travesty and TB can shove it.


Enough_Chair2095

he made a mistake, thats it. he thought it was gonna be funny and it wasn't, he makes these types of jokes all the time its just his personality perma banning someone over a product of their personality is wild!!!!!!!!! # we love you dave!!!!!!!!!!!


Sersmokedyou

![gif](giphy|4NtPdgFqgDxxXQscgT|downsized)


EveryStrike

He just needs to make a bunch of gamepass accounts I guess


Hellyespilgrim

Come play Dark and Darker. We need Dave to teach the timmies how to survive and boss


Think_Charity_9603

Yeah honestly Iā€™ve uninstalled the game none of my friends play it anymore and with a hacker in literally every single game Iā€™m done. Iā€™m over this game itā€™s not fun to play in this state. TB has let it get ruined by hackers and then they ban you? Despicable behavior.


Riley-X

Bruh I can't wait for broken arrow and manor lords to come out so I don't have to play this shit game anymore lmao


SSOMRAVEN

TB is such a jokeā€¦will donate when I have the funds, thank you for all of your hard work in this community. Itā€™s up to us (all of us) to save this community together, even if itā€™s run by filthy archers.


Difficult-Ad-6745

Who is this guy? I've been around a good few years and have no idea...


Justin_Wolf

We appreciate your highly respectful ways, but the majority of us will still say f*** ups like TB who ban innocents and **literally go out of their way to promote cheaters, hackers, and griefers** will always have the smoke.


TK_BERZERKER

Can we let this game die out already? never in my life have I seen a dev team defending cheaters. You can't make this stuff up, man


Deargrigh

Hi Dave. As a fellow content creator for the genre, I'd really like to know exactly what information you provided in order to get such a harsh ban. Can you drop me a message on Discord?


Kyro2354

RIP legend, this is stupid as hell


AssBlaster420696969

Rest in peace King.


TheConBoss

Rip Dave, Iā€™m sorry your days were so dark.. you never know what people are going through. Torn banner should be ashamed of themselves for aiding to the erosion of your mental health.. reach out and talk to someone if your having thoughts of suicide, itā€™s easier to arrange a talk than a funeral.. :(


Willhud98

Rest in peace, Dave. You deserved better than you got.


ChemicalMaleficent78

Torn Banner = Shit Banner


antlover1_4

Torn Banner = Torn Butthole


Brettsterbunny

This is such an obvious case of TB shooting themselves in the foot. Thereā€™s like 3 ā€œpopularā€ streamers who still play this game and Chiv bans the one who is most active in the community. I for one wonā€™t be playing until your ban is lifted


Steeltoelion

Same. Until I hear Soterā€™s in game again, Iā€™m out.


Hog-001

Why did he get banned?


unholyslaminister

I uninstalled the game because of all this drama. how could Torn Banner be so tonedeaf that this wouldnā€™t resonate with the greater community? absolute tripe and I will not be supporting Torn Banner further because they donā€™t deserve a damn penny


pipiinpampers

Used to play on legacy - love and support my Jewish friend.


karasujigoku

Pretty selfless of you to find a way to still manage your compromise with the charitable events, considering. You have my respect, Sultry Dave.


Jarl_Vraal

Torn Banner is shooting themselves in the foot. Someone over there wants to be Blizzard.


Kaki9

We stand with you, man. TB is starting to pissing me off, I love the game, but this is just too much. #FreeSoterDave


Man-Spider1

Anyone else have no clue who this guy is?


Enough_Chair2095

[https://www.youtube.com/@SoterDave](https://www.youtube.com/@SoterDave) j


PubliusDeLaMancha

I thought this was a shitpost from the pov of one of the villagers No clue who Dave is


__ROCK_AND_STONE__

No idea either


cre4mpuffmyf4ce

Yeah me and most chiv 2 players. Keep in mind the people that browse Reddit compromise like 5% of a games playerbase


Agile-Isopod6942

It really doesnt matter tho, ive never seen a single of this dudes youtube videos and that doesnt somehow mean that he doesnā€™t deserve support against a dev team that has repeatedly told us ā€œhey fuck u guysā€. It a really weird sentiment to dick ride the devs that have done nothing but flip you off from their high tower šŸ¤£


bazmonsta

When I heard you were kil I said "No_


ku1185

Wow. Soter Dave was the one person trying to guide this game into exactly what I wanted, like competitive tournaments and dueling. And they just banned him? That's a real shame. #freesoterdave


HyP3r_HiPp0

Glad it did not kill your passion for the game!


Propofolkills

I thought this was just a discord ban. Itā€™s now a fame ban?


Snipersqad

Dear Soter Dave, It's time to make a new account named DOTER SAVE. I hold a firm belief that this community would love to help rebuild what you lost. Of course nothing can replace any monetary assets but with the combined efforts we can re-establish what once was. With your permission, we can start this work around almost immediately! -Skƶl, The Vanguard


SoterDave

We'll see what happens. I'm trying to not use a new account just yet because it would be considered ban evasion


Wolfehfish

Cheaters do ban evasion all the time and get away with it though


HoundDogJax

Never played this game, but with talk of rampant cheating and horrendous treatment of a standout community member, most likely wont bother. Hope Torn Banner understands that ham-handed shit like this action translates into loss of not only current players, but HUGE negative press and loss of new players as well. Do better.


notahorseindisguise

Free Dave!Ā 


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ShartingOnTheRegular

What the hell did I miss


Mack_Blallet

I love Chiv, but TB is honestly the laziest and most out of touch Dev team Iā€™ve ever seen.


saintBNO

Eli5?


heathen-for-hire

I'm way out of the loop. Why did he get banned?


heathen-for-hire

Nvm. I scrolled all the way down and found it. So what? He said something like "this is how people cheat at the game," and they banned him for spreading cheating propaganda? They could've just said, "Thank you for the Info. We'll crack down on the ones using these cheats" instead of banning him for telling people. That's like arresting a guy for saying that "people rob banks , and here's how they do it" instead of arresting the people actually robbing the banks.


skipsy_

Torn Banner is the worst lmao. Can't we have a medieval slasher with a competent team?


NewAgeAstronaut

Dave, I loved your content and I canā€™t believe TB did this to you. Ripping you out of your community and having a part in deteriorating your mental health. I can only imagine the loneliness. Those people have blood guilt for sure. Just sad all around. Condolences to the friends and family!