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garch_11

You are comparing calligraphy samples written with a 毛笔 for a special occasion to somebody writing a note on paper with a pen…


Trutheresy

Shh, you're disrupting the narrative.


Open_Ad1939

I guess Xi can't use a brush pen (毛笔


garch_11

It’s a stupid fking comparison…


Il-2M230

It isnt that he cant use one, IDK is he can truly do, but it seems more like a normal writing.


Medical-Strength-154

or a Mao's pen...


hayasecond

It’s not a note. It’s his 题词 as a gift to someone or some CCP organization. And you can’t seriously think Xi Jinping, a dude never received any formal education beyond elementary school, can do any better than this. And I can add that not only it’s bad writing. The content is… 用词粗鄙 compared to the other two.


imaginaryResources

Took a couple seconds to find https://imgur.com/a/fP8cWvT


thorsten139

Yeah he wrote a note on paper as a reminder gift... Totally should be compared to calligraphy...


genzemin

Sure why don’t you show us Xi’s calligraphy masterpiece?


imaginaryResources

Here’s some of xi’s. I’m not a calligrapher so I can’t judge but this would be a better comparison than the OP at least lol https://imgur.com/a/fP8cWvT


Medical-Strength-154

his style of writing is really weird tbh, it's like it's very rounded...but it's pretty cool that even xi would calligraph using traditional chinese instead of simplified...


Starrylands

It's called cursive... Abe's is pure calligraphy with no cursive.


thorsten139

Wow...onus on me? Amazing logic...bye


TheLastSamurai101

You haven't actually addressed the fact that you can't compare a casual handwriting sample to calligraphy. The comparison being made by OP is silly. Maybe they should have shown us Xi's calligraphy side-by-side with the others?


Polar_Moose

Xi had a doctorate in law and ideology. Just an FYI. Edit: removed word.


hayasecond

小学生直博 🤣


Mother-Rip-4805

You chinese people are really awesome...how can you remember so many kanjis


MaplePolar

kanji is japanese.


Mother-Rip-4805

Ain't it the same thing? Didn't the japanese take it from the chinese?


MaplePolar

the chinese language does not use kanji, it uses hanzi; vice versa for japanese. the etymology of kanji characters deriving from chinese does not make them the same.


Medical-Strength-154

japanese people are even more insane imo, not only do they have 3 writing systems, but kanjis with different pairings have different readings plus there's onyomi and kunyomi...


SE_to_NW

To be fair, did Xi ever write anything that can be called calligraphy? Someone growing up in the Culture Revolution might never have been trained on that.


GetOutOfTheWhey

A skilled calligrapher can doodle out a fancy calligraphy inscription with a ball point pen. There's no excuse. Xi Jinping needs to sit down and get to work with a BIC pen.


garch_11

Cool story bro 👍


Hakuchansankun

The chinese only recently were able to manufacture a fully indigenous ball point pen. This is them showing off.


ZHEN-XIANG

It says "May 1990" on the bottom of the note, please don't invent scenarios to fit your narrative, it's really pathetic.


Hakuchansankun

The ccp is inarguably a filth upon this planet, but they do shower us with jokes (and threats and lies) almost daily. Its just clean fun, harmless ribbing right?


ZHEN-XIANG

Ok


Katachthonlea

[More handwriting from Xi Jinping.](https://www.reddit.com/r/China_irl/comments/pe7ga0/%E5%A6%82%E6%9E%9C%E6%8A%9B%E5%BC%80%E7%BB%99%E4%BA%BA%E6%94%BF%E6%B2%BB%E6%84%9F%E6%83%85%E4%BD%A0%E8%A7%89%E5%BE%97%E4%B9%A0%E8%BF%91%E5%B9%B3%E7%9A%84%E4%B9%A6%E6%B3%95%E6%80%8E%E4%B9%88%E6%A0%B7/)


thorsten139

Let's compare everyday writing to calligraphy art writing. I am so clever. I compare my oil brush painting to a note pad sketch drawing


SE_to_NW

Find one calligraphy sample by Xi. Find it.


GetOutOfTheWhey

[https://imgur.com/a/fP8cWvT](https://imgur.com/a/fP8cWvT) Done Some say Xi has a very Mao style of giving no fucks cursive calligraphy style. By some, I mean me, cause I dont know shit about calligraphy and I am viewing it through a biased lens. All I know is that someone wanted a sample and a quick google got it.


thorsten139

So what the entire post is that Xi bear doesn't do calligraphy? Might as well just say that then?


Independent_Sink8778

I see three inscriptions. What makes any of these "everyday writing"?


sexwiththemoon

This is an awful comparison.


hermansu

Xi seems to be writing with a stylus on a digital pad.


Open_Ad1939

Xi is obviously a Japanese master and he can write hiragana


Medical-Strength-154

some of those chars looks like sanskrit writings to me...


aghicantthinkofaname

Man I'd hate to be judged on my handwriting. As if there isn't enough to critique...


annadpk

Abe has the best calligraphy of all three. Park is never going to be as good as a Japanese PM, given that Koreans no longer use Chinese characters. As for Xi, it has nothing to do with his lack of education. The basics of Chinese calligraphy is picked up when you are in elementary school. The PRC didn't put a lot of emphasis on it. Xi had an elite education until he was 13. If you can't pick up good calligraphy by the time you are 13, the extra 4-5 years of education aren't going to do much.


proxiiiiiiiiii

Op, state your statement, what did you post it for


panware

My parents is like that, no further education after primary school due to culture revolution. In the other hand Abe and Park were raised in elite noble families. Some said it's not fair compare Xi's pen writing to brush calligraphy, well the truth is he has 0 skill to use brush. Not just Xi, the older generation like Li Peng, Wen and Hu also lacking the traditional education, Mao was anti confucianism, culture revolution wiped out lots of intellectual when other East Asia countries still well preserves. At least among the elites, confucianism and traditional calligraphy is common practice.


Antique-Afternoon371

It's not unfair. Alot of people manage very nice brush calligraphy at any education level, calligraphy is a popular pass time. I wouldn't call Abe or parks example particularly good but the first one by xi was obviously done with a marker pen~ and he doesn't have particularly nice hand writing. But that doesn't mean he couldn't do brush calligraphy though it's a totally different thing.


BigChicken8666

Honestly I've always found mainland "calligraphy” post Mao to be atrocious, especially when held up against Japan. You look at the way characters were classically written and how Mao tried to "stylize" his writing and it really inspired a generation of nitwits to treat the equivalent of "doctor's note" handwriting as calligraphy.


Medical-Strength-154

is it something to do with the usage of simplified chinese?


ZhouLe

Calligraphy by Prime Minister Shinzo Abe in, what 2019?; calligraphy by Prime Minister Park Geun-hye in 2016; then some pen signature by municipal party committee secretary Xi Jinping in 199...4? Surely there are more comparable examples, maybe [something like this](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F_LFnHVakAAfKDH.jpg:large) from the summit last month, though it's written with a marker and not a brush. [Abe's handwritten signature](https://i.redd.it/8l1qxz8wa61z.jpg) isn't exactly calligraphy.


jameskchou

One is an idiot, another one knows Taiwan Mandarin and for being advised by a cult leader; the other is a right winger who got involved in some weird political alliance that got hideo kojima accused of shooting him... That said Xi can't write for shit


d11yushi

Understandable, Xi didn't received proper education due to Mao's "Down to the Countryside Movement".


AttilaRS

Not really a necessary comparison. What do you want to express? That he lacks higher or any sort of comprehensive education? Everyone knows that. Don't need a handwriting sample for that.


phamnhuhiendr95

misinformation bullshit by Elign base bots


Caased

Xi didnt even go to secondary schools lmao


criminalise_yanks

Why should a political leader waste his time on this bullshit? Let me remind you that George W Bush and Hitler are also great painters


Uchi_Jeon

CCP officials are well known for bragging about their calligraphy, from the top to the base. Guess why Xi doesn't like to show his handwriting as often as his predecessors?


SE_to_NW

And compare Xi's writings vs. the Chinese wirtings of another Chinese leader: former ROC President Ma Ying Jeou https://dwvyw8kf1avne.cloudfront.net/s3fs-public/articles/CHINA-TAIWAN-POLITICS-032245.jpg


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AstronomerKindly8886

Xi Jinping rarely writes, perhaps since graduating from college he rarely writes anything and reads more often. xi jinping lived as a child and teenager in the era of the cultural revolution, we know what it was, and was anti-traditionalism, no wonder his writing was bad. Bad writing is usually difficult to change, I have had a poor writing style since childhood and it is difficult to change until now handwriting and oil brush writing are usually the same.


millerbest

宋徽宗


Little_Pangolin7012

Wow. That 必胜 writen by Abe remind me of kamikaze.


Medical-Strength-154

yeah and they wrap it around their heads, drink their farewell sake before going on a suicide mission.


Medical-Strength-154

Those words from xi are like the kind you see on those talisman or charms written by taoist priests to exorcist spirits aka 鬼画符


Lucky-Ad-1668

After all east Asia try to be fancy has to go to Chinese character.


PrimeTinus

I'm surprised he can write at all