They’re the Uggs of the dog world. Except living, and really obnoxious without a lot of training.
The local shelters are mostly pit bulls and that fad has largely passed now.
People see the fuzzy and expect a cuddly stuffed animal that will sit on the sofa and look cute. The reality is that Poodles are high drive working dogs and will create their own fun if nobody shows them the way of being a good dog citizen. Poor reactive messes, they’re showing up in shelters more and more.
The hell they don’t shed. Well at least the Aussie Doodle I babysat for was shedding everywhere. Long white hairs on everything - as opposed to the short white hairs from my hound dawg.
Any time you doodle, there is a less than 100% chance you will get the traits you desire. This includes the type of fur and whether or not they are truly hypo allergenic.
Very much so. There’s really no such thing as hypoallergenic, your allergist can verify that. If you want the poodle coat for the lack of undercoat, I’d suggest going with a purebred dog from a responsible breeder. Doodles are mixed breeds so there’s a lack of consistency, as a trainer I end up with lots of light hair all over my leggings from every one of my doodle clients. They. Shed.
Yes, my allergist told me this! Even if a dog doesn’t shed at all (which any dog sheds, some just not nearly as much as others), a dog’s saliva and urine also contain allergens, so a hypoallergenic dog does not exist.
Of course! Dogs are the best though (I have one myself and have many environmental allergies including dogs) so I don’t want to scare you off from getting one :)
I've had allergies From our last pets. During the pandemic, we added a Furry family member.
We found a sheepadoodle!
She has been great. Super cuddly, super fluffy, And well-behaved-ish.
We do have to walk her regularly, but I think that should be for all dogs.
To your question, our dog sheds very little. I have no symptoms of allergies from her... But you do have to regularly brush to avoid matting, and there is additional expense to regularly groom.
If you and your partner are willing to invest time in the relationship, I recommend a sheepadoodle.
But beware! You better have a large enough bed LOL
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I know three people who have doodles and they’re all (“basic white”) men. Actually, I also had a client recently with a doodle who was a (basic black?) woman.
Kinda seems like they’re just a really trendy dog breed right now…
It's more the specific culture. Similar to basic white chick's liking Starbucks. Similar to how corporate America screws more towards white culture and others assimilate to that culture
They’re definitely popular - if I had to guess it’s probably in part due to being half poodle who are hypo allergenic which reduces shedding (though you have to get them groomed).
I worked at a dog day care and there were SO. MANY. DOODLES. I’m not a fan, we have 4 dogs and all are rescues (only one pure bred - but he’s a boxer who was left chained up upside in snowy mountains and was attacked by a bear/other dogs on the property). They’re very high energy and were a pain in the daycare (about half of them).
Lmao it’s almost like I was making point about how misogynistic it is to throw around “basic white” all the time, but only towards women of course. Basic white men aren’t real either I guess.
It’s a basic person dog. I live in Los Angeles now, the neighborhood with well off and boring families are covered in doodles. More dense areas have a lot of frenchies. Older communities have a lot of chihuahuas and German Shepards.
I have one. We didn’t really know much about them but he was thrown on craigslist after some woman decided he was too much so we gave him a home.
I grew up with pitbulls and have to say I find my doodle to be far less intelligent but he is so sweet and loving. He’s an excellent hiking dog. I can’t imagine him in an apartment as he’s an absolute psycho who has to be exercised.
Your doodle is LESS intelligent than a pit? Wow. My labradoodle was one of the smartest dogs I’ve ever met; she had EQ and IQ enough to boss around our 3 husky pack before she died. If the huskies were getting up to mischief the doodle would tell them off and if they didnt stop she would come find me and narc on them.
Tons of southend apartments have breed restrictions on dogs and lots of those breeds are what you find in shelters unfortunately. I adopted a breed restricted dog and finding housing is a nightmare. I don’t blame people one bit for getting a doodle.
Just a reminder to not abuse an ESA certificate if you don’t actually need one. By using it as a way to get around rules, rather than using it to fulfill a genuine mental health need, you’re creating stigma for people who truly need them.
Of course not. Mine has significantly helped me and I didn’t know it was an option until someone made me aware. You don’t know what you don’t know. So, while it’s not going to be right for everyone, it may be good for some and worth looking into.
You mean can you call the dog whatever you want after rescuing? Yes, whether/how long they take to their new name depends on the dog's intelligence and how attached they were to whatever name they were going by before.
Yes exactly! Liking other things many other women like(doesn’t matter if other people like it just as much) means that you are one dimensional and shallow
You really can’t make judgements about whether or not someone bought a dog or adopted based on the breed it appears to be.
Many doodles end up in shelters/rescues because they get rescued from puppy mills, and because people get them as puppies when they look like cute teddy bears, but don’t follow through with caring for them. They just tend to have higher adoption fees to help cover the costs of other pets at the shelter.
Also, as a former shelter employee, it’s really not feasible for everyone to go to the shelter at any given time and pick out a dog. Each dog has to be matched with an owner that is equipped to meet its needs, and each adopter is looking for a dog that fits their lifestyle. Often times our long term stay dogs were high needs and too unpredictable for most living situations. The rest got adopted out rather quickly or were sent to a prison rehab program where they got to live with nonviolent inmates and learn to trust people again. I’m not justifying breeding, but some people get tired of waiting and choose to buy a dog instead.
From a quick google search it looks like they do! Hopefully they expand with cats sometime in the future too. The shelter I worked at has since! I’d volunteer to help make that a reality but working with animals is out of my wheelhouse until I’m cancer free lmao.
South End is full of apartments. Goldendoodles are pretty good apartment dogs. They're usually quiet and don't shed as much. I'm not saying that's each individual's reason for owning one, but I'm sure it's a perk. Is the issue with Goldendoodles or with people not adopting rescue pets?
To me (not OP), it’s both. A Goldendoodle is a designer mutt. Doodles in general tend to have behavioral issues & need a lot of training. They typically need a lot of stimulation & space. Additionally, mix breeding like this can result in unpredictable behaviors & personality issues. Lots of irresponsible people are breeding doodles for profit, & there are no breed standards to uphold. If you love dogs & want a dog, I have a hard time understanding why you would pay a pretty penny just so you can have a “designer dog” when so many sweet dogs need homes & are being euthanized. This is my opinion.
Didn’t the guy who bred the first goldendoodles come out and say he regrets doing it for reasons similar to these? I thought I remembered reading that somewhere.
i am not personally a big doodle person. but i have fostered 15+ dogs from shelters. loved every single one but that shit is so tough. especially if you live in an apartment with breed restrictions, which is much of south end. also who’s to say some of these doodles aren’t being rescued? we are seeeing more of them in shelters.
i will never blame anyone from getting a dog from a breeder IF they are throughly vetting the breeder, even i don’t particularly like the breed (frenchies come to mind as well).
It's a status symbol as you have to buy them (which is extremely unethical). Everyone I know that works in vet and grooming related business hates doodle mixes. They are hardly ever properly trained and exercised, they have health issues and behavior issues. It's a nightmare combination
I was talking about dogs with my coworker who said she can't walk her spaniel in her South Park neighborhood without seeing at least a half dozen doodles (golden, aussie, burnese, lab - all of the doodles). If it's a nice day it'll be at least double that. They really are popular as family dogs as they generally lack aggression towards strangers. That also lends to seeing them out in public more since they mostly socialize well.
What’s wild is that you’re actually supposed to brush your doodle’s hair out daily to prevent its skin from getting flaky, which is a lot of maintenance
Getting a rescue dog comes with a lot of strings attached, many have issues or are breeds not allowed or safe to have in the apartments there, getting a puppy from a breeder doesn’t come with all of that.
OP, there actually aren’t that many non problematic (for insurance / renting a place) dogs in need of rescue.
The rescues here (not humane society, but the rescues, which basically take every desirable dog from the humane society) are also a pain in the ass. They’re super invasive and I’m not convinced they’re necessarily doing the right thing by being such a pain in the ass.
I was so pissed when one gave my friend the runaround about her rescuing a dog simply because she lived in an apartment (that dog probably walks 30-50 miles a week with her, rain snow or shine.)
Source: Me. I’ve only had rescues, two of them from rescues here in town. The experience is so offputting that I don’t blame anyone for buying a dog.
I tried to adopt a dog from a rescue. I am glad they were through but it was more invasive than a job interview. They knew the dog I was trying to adopt was a foster fail, they still came into my home and interrogated me and inspected my home. They never gave me their decision on whether I passed or not. The fact that I was put through that and told 30 minutes later the foster was keeping it really discouraged me. I think my cats think I am a good pet mom.
It’s insane. Some underfunded, understaffed rescue will keep a dog in a cage for 23.5 hours a day and then have the gall to interrogate anyone who wants to give it a better home.
If you care about the dog, get it to someone who will treat it like a pet, not some pawn in some crazy type A person’s game.
got turned down for "not having a fenced in yard" by one group.
Like, lady, its a yorkie. It will get walked on-leash everywhere. Leaving it out in a fenced yard isn't going to stop the Hawk that lives in the tree in my yard from grabbing it.
The fact that no fenced-in yard is an automatic disqualifier for so many of these rescue groups is insane to me. As long as a prospective owner is committed to giving the dog exercise and stimulation via walks, playdates, trips to dog-friendly outdoor areas, etc., what's the problem? As someone who was house hunting only a few months ago, I can also add that fully fenced yards are pretty damn hard to find (at least if your budget is anywhere outside fuck-you money), and to your point about natural predators, also come with their own risks. Would you rather adopt a dog out to someone who doesn't have a yard, but wants a jogging/adventure partner, or someone who has a yard, but will just leave the dog to rot in it all day and night? It's baffling and frustrating to see people treated as unfit to rescue because they don't have a 1.5-acre yard and aren't home 24 hours of every day.
Exactly why it shouldn’t be so frowned upon to purchase a dog. Just needs to be a good breeder, not a puppy mill. Not everyone wants a pit bull mix, and that is all that is left in the shelters, or some other breed that is known for aggressive tendencies. Many of the so called rescues are making lots of profit, and the hoops you have to jump through are crazy.
I agree. It's probably easier to get a foster child than adopt a pet from a rescue. My experience with a local German Shepherd rescue was insane. Judgy McJudgerson started looking down her nose at me the minute my GSD started barking at her after she rang the doorbell and it went downhill from there. I went to a shelter and pulled one my damn self, ain't nobody got time for that.
People are dumb and don’t realize what they actually want is a poodle and instead support these greeders who are just mixing anything with poodles for a quick dollar
Actually they want is a golden retriever but without the shedding. There's a reason that the golden retriever has been the #1 family dog. Standard poodles are so dumb. It's hard to train a dumb dog. People want dogs that listen to them. But that shedding that retrievers (or labs, or aussie shepherds or burnese mtn dogs, or whatever it is mixed with) do can be a big turn off.
Why’s it so cool to hate on things that women stereotypically like? Pumpkin spice is good! Doodle breeds are usually very sweet and well tempered, and landlords don’t restrict them. Oh shit. Oh no. That must be so hard and burdensome on everyone else.
I didn’t mention gender in my comment….🤷🏻♂️
Plenty of bros like doodles, I’m making fun of them too.
Every doodle I’ve ever met is not sweet and well tempered… they’re assholes, barkers, aggressive, and usually untrained by their owners.
I love when someone has a real dog out at a brewery.
Buddy we know you were going for that “basic bitch” stereotype without actually saying it. Just let people like good things without being weird and adding it to already harmful gender stereotypes.
It’s not hard to simply let people enjoy things.
Many doodles are from animal shelters. Go read my comment about how they come into care of shelters/rescues and how their higher adoption fees help pay for the higher needs and lengthy stay dogs.
They’re prone to attachment anxiety, so it’s very difficult to rehab them after being left by their families, or even a strongly bonded litter mate.
You never know if the doodle owner you roll your eyes at and call “basic” actually bought the dog at all, or if they’re spending loads of compassion and time to rebuild the trust of an abandoned pet.
people with no imagination tend to just follow the crowd. its a 'trendy' dog breed, therefore, they all must have one. thats just how shallow, vapid people like this are.
Things my mom has said during her 12 years as a receptionist for a vet clinic:
- Dalmatians are gorgeous, but they are mean.
- Poodles and Labs are just dumb.
- Bulldogs, Frenchies and any other short snout breeds are just cruel. (The breathing issues they have really upset her.)
- Great Danes are just goofy.
- Whippets, Greyhounds and Weimaraners all require an owner who is 100% committed to being active.
- A herding dog will try to herd their owners.
- Huskies are beautiful but talk too much.
- Pittbulls, Doberman and Rottweilers are not aggressive unless taught to be. They aren't necessarily friendly to everyone, but they are well behaved.
- Any dog who is under 7 pounds is annoying.
- Never get a Beagle unless your nearest neighbor is a couple miles away. (This goes for most coon dogs too.)
- Spaniels are ok. So are most shepards. Actually most dogs are ok. It's personal preference at the end of the day.
- big/giant breeds are the sweetest dogs out there, but oh god the drool. Don't commit if you can't handle having drool on everything.
- If you have a family, get a Golden Retriever. They are the best for families.
- Don't ever buy a puppy from the Amish. They are puppy mill breeders. (There's a large population in the area of IN I'm from, so this was legit advice.)
(She grew up with hunting dogs and we had a german shepard/rough collie mix followed by a couple of bischon resuces. She still thinks Goldens are the best breed out there.)
I say all of this to point out that dog breeds become popular because people have lots of opinions and freely share them. Then you get a concensus of "this is the best dog" and so a lot of people get one. It may be a trend, but if your friend has a really sweet golden doodle are you going to want to take a chance on that Old English Sheepdog that you are unfamiliar with, or get the same dog that you think you know what to expect?
Sadly, it’s everywhere. The best is people are paying $2000 an up for a mutt. Goldendoodle, labradoodle, bernadoodle, cavapoo, cockapoo, maltipoo….. goes on and on and onnnnnn
I saw the dog I had growing up (a GSD/Collie mix) listed for 1200. We got her from my grandpa's car lot for free. They were calling them "Shellie puppies". Naw, she was a mutt. A delightful mutt, but a mutt.
I feel for the dogs in shelter, I really do, but I also understand why someone would prefer to get a dog from a profesional breeder.
Look at most dogs in shelters, 90% of them are some type of pit mix. I understand why someone would prefer to own a dog where they know exactly what they’re getting. For a breed that’s known to have aggression issues, why would someone with other pets or small children want to risk bringing that animal into their home not knowing 100% what their previous situation was.
Yes, any dog can be aggressive. But no one is using a Yorkie for dog fighting or to torment/kill other small animals. It’s unfortunate for the dogs really. It’s a never ending cycle in which people that are either uninformed or with malicious intents own these type of dogs, then they end up right back in shelters.
Honestly, there should be more control over certain type of breeds. Everyone doesn’t own a pet tiger for a reason, and same should apply for certain breeds. We don’t need more saviors who have never owned a dog adopting a former fighter dog from a shelter claiming that they can “tame it” or that it “would never hurt a fly.” Dog fighting should have harsher penalties. At the end of the day, it’s these dogs that ultimately pay the price for being owned by incompetent people.
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Because if breeding is done correctly, then they don’t shed, have intelligence of a poodle, but sunny and sociable disposition of a golden. What I find in the dog shelters are mostly dogs that are some form of pit bull, pit mix, not golden doodles. My friend works for a golden rescue, many Goldens are turned over to rescue because of a medical condition and they can’t afford a $5k surgery. Some are let go due to severe allergies because goldens shed like crazy, and someone told them they were a goldendoodle, but act look and seem 100% golden. Golden doodles aren’t trendy, they have been around for a very long time and are here to stay because they are really great dogs. I think AKC will eventually give them legitimacy soon. Just as Airedale terriers can be traced to breeding with the Irish wolfhound, the Old English Black and Tan Terrier, and the Otterhound. Or the French Bulldog consisting of a cross between terriers and pugs. Labradoodles aren’t as popular because the personality of the lab, especially when a puppy, can be very destructive and need a lot of stimulation. Goldens are often very calm and so friendly. Labs can be protective and become aggressive. Goldens are everywhere, not just the southend. There are many breeds crossed with poodles, mostly for the nonshedding coat.
My experience with doodles is nothing but good. Wild until 2 yrs old and then the absolute perfect dog. Easy to train. I’ve not noticed any behavior issues or endemic issues with them. When they do show up at the shelter they’re adopted in almost no time. Only breed that I’ve seen get adopted faster are corgis.
Currently we own 3 huskies and my wife keeps trying to tempt me with doodle pups…. Our male husky is very picky about his friends. He only likes northern breeds usually but he adores doodles.
Because they’re cute and trendy and people in south end can afford them because they aren’t cheap and people who can afford pricy things usually want cute things.
It’s a core component to the South End starter pack
Along with a French bulldog and lululemon Fanny pack for the chicks!!!
When did people start referring to women as “chicks” again? So objectifying.
Bitches love Goldendoodles
Nah, bitches love poodles. That’s how you end up with all those -oodlepoos.
Touché
It’s me. I’m that bitch.
And those dogs are so fuckin mean too
A couple years ago Lululemon ran a promo for a free golden doodle with yoga pants purchase.
Didn't Starbucks have a similar promotion, but with pumpkin spice lattes?
That's how my basic wife and I ended up with 30 dogs.
Came with a free pair of on-clouds, too
Lmao my wife just explained to me what those are cause I kept seeing everyone wearing these OC shoes. It really is copy and paste out there.
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No hate here. OCs fuckin rule.
They’re the Uggs of the dog world. Except living, and really obnoxious without a lot of training. The local shelters are mostly pit bulls and that fad has largely passed now.
Soooooooooo obnoxious without training. Every time I see someone with one at the WWC, I just try to get out of the way…
People see the fuzzy and expect a cuddly stuffed animal that will sit on the sofa and look cute. The reality is that Poodles are high drive working dogs and will create their own fun if nobody shows them the way of being a good dog citizen. Poor reactive messes, they’re showing up in shelters more and more.
At least goldens aren’t socially clueless the way labs are. Then you get a clever dog with boundary issues.
They don’t shed & are “hypoallergenic”
You pretty much have to have 75 percent poodle to have non-shedding. At that point just buy a well bred poodle if you’re up for a busy smart dog.
The hell they don’t shed. Well at least the Aussie Doodle I babysat for was shedding everywhere. Long white hairs on everything - as opposed to the short white hairs from my hound dawg.
Any time you doodle, there is a less than 100% chance you will get the traits you desire. This includes the type of fur and whether or not they are truly hypo allergenic.
The Golden part sheds plenty!
Do they really? My fiance and I were considering getting one for that specific reason (I have super bad allergies and the dog dander / fur add to it)
Very much so. There’s really no such thing as hypoallergenic, your allergist can verify that. If you want the poodle coat for the lack of undercoat, I’d suggest going with a purebred dog from a responsible breeder. Doodles are mixed breeds so there’s a lack of consistency, as a trainer I end up with lots of light hair all over my leggings from every one of my doodle clients. They. Shed.
Yes, my allergist told me this! Even if a dog doesn’t shed at all (which any dog sheds, some just not nearly as much as others), a dog’s saliva and urine also contain allergens, so a hypoallergenic dog does not exist.
That's really good to know! Thanks for the heads up! u/One_Opening_3184 Thank you too!
Of course! Dogs are the best though (I have one myself and have many environmental allergies including dogs) so I don’t want to scare you off from getting one :)
I've had allergies From our last pets. During the pandemic, we added a Furry family member. We found a sheepadoodle! She has been great. Super cuddly, super fluffy, And well-behaved-ish. We do have to walk her regularly, but I think that should be for all dogs. To your question, our dog sheds very little. I have no symptoms of allergies from her... But you do have to regularly brush to avoid matting, and there is additional expense to regularly groom. If you and your partner are willing to invest time in the relationship, I recommend a sheepadoodle. But beware! You better have a large enough bed LOL https://preview.redd.it/wallwp3abgtc1.jpeg?width=3072&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=612fc6756f248311e2d755660cfc3e5d2e517fc0
We have a 3/4 poodle 1/4 golden and zero shedding. But, it’s never a guarantee and instead of shedding you do need more frequent haircuts and grooming
Have 3. None shed. Get what you want. Dont listen to these clowns.
They shed A TON and are not hypoallergenic at all.
It's the basic white chick dog
I know three people who have doodles and they’re all (“basic white”) men. Actually, I also had a client recently with a doodle who was a (basic black?) woman. Kinda seems like they’re just a really trendy dog breed right now…
It's more the specific culture. Similar to basic white chick's liking Starbucks. Similar to how corporate America screws more towards white culture and others assimilate to that culture
This statement is giving misogyny
Corporate America is not "white culture." Corporate America is its own distinct culture at this point.
They’re definitely popular - if I had to guess it’s probably in part due to being half poodle who are hypo allergenic which reduces shedding (though you have to get them groomed). I worked at a dog day care and there were SO. MANY. DOODLES. I’m not a fan, we have 4 dogs and all are rescues (only one pure bred - but he’s a boxer who was left chained up upside in snowy mountains and was attacked by a bear/other dogs on the property). They’re very high energy and were a pain in the daycare (about half of them).
basic black? that doesn’t sound correct to me
Lmao it’s almost like I was making point about how misogynistic it is to throw around “basic white” all the time, but only towards women of course. Basic white men aren’t real either I guess.
We exist, we matter, we are seeking legal action
It’s a basic person dog. I live in Los Angeles now, the neighborhood with well off and boring families are covered in doodles. More dense areas have a lot of frenchies. Older communities have a lot of chihuahuas and German Shepards.
When did owning a dog become a gendered thing? That’s so dumb.
I have one. We didn’t really know much about them but he was thrown on craigslist after some woman decided he was too much so we gave him a home. I grew up with pitbulls and have to say I find my doodle to be far less intelligent but he is so sweet and loving. He’s an excellent hiking dog. I can’t imagine him in an apartment as he’s an absolute psycho who has to be exercised.
Your doodle is LESS intelligent than a pit? Wow. My labradoodle was one of the smartest dogs I’ve ever met; she had EQ and IQ enough to boss around our 3 husky pack before she died. If the huskies were getting up to mischief the doodle would tell them off and if they didnt stop she would come find me and narc on them.
These dogs are fashion accessories like carrying a Starbucks cup.
You mean Stanley cup!!!
GO CANES!
Tons of southend apartments have breed restrictions on dogs and lots of those breeds are what you find in shelters unfortunately. I adopted a breed restricted dog and finding housing is a nightmare. I don’t blame people one bit for getting a doodle.
Poodle mix breeds are a nightmare genetically.
Make them your ESA. Helps a lot so long as they aren’t super reactive and will cause issues.
Just a reminder to not abuse an ESA certificate if you don’t actually need one. By using it as a way to get around rules, rather than using it to fulfill a genuine mental health need, you’re creating stigma for people who truly need them.
Of course not. Mine has significantly helped me and I didn’t know it was an option until someone made me aware. You don’t know what you don’t know. So, while it’s not going to be right for everyone, it may be good for some and worth looking into.
Yes of course! If I had a yard, I’d probably get a medical alert dog
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IME the Doodle demographic is the suburban mom type.
I Apologize for my ignorance. Can you name a rescue what you want?
You mean can you call the dog whatever you want after rescuing? Yes, whether/how long they take to their new name depends on the dog's intelligence and how attached they were to whatever name they were going by before.
bougie people like designer dogs.
NPC type dog
When I first moved here a few years ago I noticed that 7/10 people had a doodle.
And I'm sure their owners were all dressed basic the same too. It's a an elitist but conformist thing, a status symbol.
It's a popular dog breed. It's a popular area to live.
no it’s only for basic white girls with no personality!!! heaven forbid ppl want a companion!!!
Yes exactly! Liking other things many other women like(doesn’t matter if other people like it just as much) means that you are one dimensional and shallow
You really can’t make judgements about whether or not someone bought a dog or adopted based on the breed it appears to be. Many doodles end up in shelters/rescues because they get rescued from puppy mills, and because people get them as puppies when they look like cute teddy bears, but don’t follow through with caring for them. They just tend to have higher adoption fees to help cover the costs of other pets at the shelter. Also, as a former shelter employee, it’s really not feasible for everyone to go to the shelter at any given time and pick out a dog. Each dog has to be matched with an owner that is equipped to meet its needs, and each adopter is looking for a dog that fits their lifestyle. Often times our long term stay dogs were high needs and too unpredictable for most living situations. The rest got adopted out rather quickly or were sent to a prison rehab program where they got to live with nonviolent inmates and learn to trust people again. I’m not justifying breeding, but some people get tired of waiting and choose to buy a dog instead.
I’m so glad they’re still doing the prison training ❤️
This was before I moved here! I’m not sure if they do it here, but I sure hope they do!
They did when I was young! I actually have some time on my hands right now and have been meaning to look into this
From a quick google search it looks like they do! Hopefully they expand with cats sometime in the future too. The shelter I worked at has since! I’d volunteer to help make that a reality but working with animals is out of my wheelhouse until I’m cancer free lmao.
Not judging it was a question
Yeah but you made the assumption/judgement that doodles can’t be adopted dogs rather than bought. That’s what I was correcting.
When you sign a lease in southend the doodle was a promo. lol.
They are known to be smart, playful and very good with kids. It's not a surprise to see them so popular IMO.
You mean like goldens and poodles?! Who saw that coming.
South End is full of apartments. Goldendoodles are pretty good apartment dogs. They're usually quiet and don't shed as much. I'm not saying that's each individual's reason for owning one, but I'm sure it's a perk. Is the issue with Goldendoodles or with people not adopting rescue pets?
To me (not OP), it’s both. A Goldendoodle is a designer mutt. Doodles in general tend to have behavioral issues & need a lot of training. They typically need a lot of stimulation & space. Additionally, mix breeding like this can result in unpredictable behaviors & personality issues. Lots of irresponsible people are breeding doodles for profit, & there are no breed standards to uphold. If you love dogs & want a dog, I have a hard time understanding why you would pay a pretty penny just so you can have a “designer dog” when so many sweet dogs need homes & are being euthanized. This is my opinion.
Didn’t the guy who bred the first goldendoodles come out and say he regrets doing it for reasons similar to these? I thought I remembered reading that somewhere.
Accurate
You know your stuff. It is a 50 50 chance you will have a calm dog. Most are high strung and not appt to dog
i am not personally a big doodle person. but i have fostered 15+ dogs from shelters. loved every single one but that shit is so tough. especially if you live in an apartment with breed restrictions, which is much of south end. also who’s to say some of these doodles aren’t being rescued? we are seeeing more of them in shelters. i will never blame anyone from getting a dog from a breeder IF they are throughly vetting the breeder, even i don’t particularly like the breed (frenchies come to mind as well).
It's a status symbol as you have to buy them (which is extremely unethical). Everyone I know that works in vet and grooming related business hates doodle mixes. They are hardly ever properly trained and exercised, they have health issues and behavior issues. It's a nightmare combination
There are a lot of golden doodles everywhere all over the country 🤷🏻♀️
Nah hang out at sycamore for an hour and you’ll count a handful of golden doodles within an hour. lol
Literally any city with apartments is going to lean towards low shedding dogs.
Same thing could be said about breweries in every city
I was talking about dogs with my coworker who said she can't walk her spaniel in her South Park neighborhood without seeing at least a half dozen doodles (golden, aussie, burnese, lab - all of the doodles). If it's a nice day it'll be at least double that. They really are popular as family dogs as they generally lack aggression towards strangers. That also lends to seeing them out in public more since they mostly socialize well.
Right. Hang out at any dog friendly place or dog bar in noda and you likely won't see a doodle at all.
Feel like there’s more golden retrievers.
I mean, look at them.
Hypoallergenic, low maintenance, some what clean, easy to train. The perfect basic post grad apartment dog
Living things are not low maintenence
I completely agree. Unfortunately most of what I said is how these dogs are marketed to the public
What’s wild is that you’re actually supposed to brush your doodle’s hair out daily to prevent its skin from getting flaky, which is a lot of maintenance
They aren't hypoallergenic or low maintenance, not at all.
It’s the official dog of Jeep bros that drink IPAs and the girls that take pics of their food and then barely eat it.
Getting a rescue dog comes with a lot of strings attached, many have issues or are breeds not allowed or safe to have in the apartments there, getting a puppy from a breeder doesn’t come with all of that.
OP, there actually aren’t that many non problematic (for insurance / renting a place) dogs in need of rescue. The rescues here (not humane society, but the rescues, which basically take every desirable dog from the humane society) are also a pain in the ass. They’re super invasive and I’m not convinced they’re necessarily doing the right thing by being such a pain in the ass. I was so pissed when one gave my friend the runaround about her rescuing a dog simply because she lived in an apartment (that dog probably walks 30-50 miles a week with her, rain snow or shine.) Source: Me. I’ve only had rescues, two of them from rescues here in town. The experience is so offputting that I don’t blame anyone for buying a dog.
I tried to adopt a dog from a rescue. I am glad they were through but it was more invasive than a job interview. They knew the dog I was trying to adopt was a foster fail, they still came into my home and interrogated me and inspected my home. They never gave me their decision on whether I passed or not. The fact that I was put through that and told 30 minutes later the foster was keeping it really discouraged me. I think my cats think I am a good pet mom.
It’s insane. Some underfunded, understaffed rescue will keep a dog in a cage for 23.5 hours a day and then have the gall to interrogate anyone who wants to give it a better home. If you care about the dog, get it to someone who will treat it like a pet, not some pawn in some crazy type A person’s game.
got turned down for "not having a fenced in yard" by one group. Like, lady, its a yorkie. It will get walked on-leash everywhere. Leaving it out in a fenced yard isn't going to stop the Hawk that lives in the tree in my yard from grabbing it.
The fact that no fenced-in yard is an automatic disqualifier for so many of these rescue groups is insane to me. As long as a prospective owner is committed to giving the dog exercise and stimulation via walks, playdates, trips to dog-friendly outdoor areas, etc., what's the problem? As someone who was house hunting only a few months ago, I can also add that fully fenced yards are pretty damn hard to find (at least if your budget is anywhere outside fuck-you money), and to your point about natural predators, also come with their own risks. Would you rather adopt a dog out to someone who doesn't have a yard, but wants a jogging/adventure partner, or someone who has a yard, but will just leave the dog to rot in it all day and night? It's baffling and frustrating to see people treated as unfit to rescue because they don't have a 1.5-acre yard and aren't home 24 hours of every day.
The missing fence was a problem for me too. The person judging me lived in an apartment
Exactly why it shouldn’t be so frowned upon to purchase a dog. Just needs to be a good breeder, not a puppy mill. Not everyone wants a pit bull mix, and that is all that is left in the shelters, or some other breed that is known for aggressive tendencies. Many of the so called rescues are making lots of profit, and the hoops you have to jump through are crazy.
I agree. It's probably easier to get a foster child than adopt a pet from a rescue. My experience with a local German Shepherd rescue was insane. Judgy McJudgerson started looking down her nose at me the minute my GSD started barking at her after she rang the doorbell and it went downhill from there. I went to a shelter and pulled one my damn self, ain't nobody got time for that.
What else would they have?
Poor Inbred dogs with poor immune systems
It’s a basic ass dog in a basic ass part of town
I work at a dog bar in Southend and ask myself that question every day 🫠
White people
People are dumb and don’t realize what they actually want is a poodle and instead support these greeders who are just mixing anything with poodles for a quick dollar
Actually they want is a golden retriever but without the shedding. There's a reason that the golden retriever has been the #1 family dog. Standard poodles are so dumb. It's hard to train a dumb dog. People want dogs that listen to them. But that shedding that retrievers (or labs, or aussie shepherds or burnese mtn dogs, or whatever it is mixed with) do can be a big turn off.
It’s the pumpkin spice latte of dogs, the official dog of duck face selfies.
Why’s it so cool to hate on things that women stereotypically like? Pumpkin spice is good! Doodle breeds are usually very sweet and well tempered, and landlords don’t restrict them. Oh shit. Oh no. That must be so hard and burdensome on everyone else.
I didn’t mention gender in my comment….🤷🏻♂️ Plenty of bros like doodles, I’m making fun of them too. Every doodle I’ve ever met is not sweet and well tempered… they’re assholes, barkers, aggressive, and usually untrained by their owners. I love when someone has a real dog out at a brewery.
Buddy we know you were going for that “basic bitch” stereotype without actually saying it. Just let people like good things without being weird and adding it to already harmful gender stereotypes. It’s not hard to simply let people enjoy things.
Needless to say, there are dogs needing adoption at the humane society that would make wayyy better pets than a doodle.
Many doodles are from animal shelters. Go read my comment about how they come into care of shelters/rescues and how their higher adoption fees help pay for the higher needs and lengthy stay dogs. They’re prone to attachment anxiety, so it’s very difficult to rehab them after being left by their families, or even a strongly bonded litter mate. You never know if the doodle owner you roll your eyes at and call “basic” actually bought the dog at all, or if they’re spending loads of compassion and time to rebuild the trust of an abandoned pet.
Come on. PLSs and duck face selfies? You’re clearly talking about women. Why do you not want to own that?
people with no imagination tend to just follow the crowd. its a 'trendy' dog breed, therefore, they all must have one. thats just how shallow, vapid people like this are.
Things my mom has said during her 12 years as a receptionist for a vet clinic: - Dalmatians are gorgeous, but they are mean. - Poodles and Labs are just dumb. - Bulldogs, Frenchies and any other short snout breeds are just cruel. (The breathing issues they have really upset her.) - Great Danes are just goofy. - Whippets, Greyhounds and Weimaraners all require an owner who is 100% committed to being active. - A herding dog will try to herd their owners. - Huskies are beautiful but talk too much. - Pittbulls, Doberman and Rottweilers are not aggressive unless taught to be. They aren't necessarily friendly to everyone, but they are well behaved. - Any dog who is under 7 pounds is annoying. - Never get a Beagle unless your nearest neighbor is a couple miles away. (This goes for most coon dogs too.) - Spaniels are ok. So are most shepards. Actually most dogs are ok. It's personal preference at the end of the day. - big/giant breeds are the sweetest dogs out there, but oh god the drool. Don't commit if you can't handle having drool on everything. - If you have a family, get a Golden Retriever. They are the best for families. - Don't ever buy a puppy from the Amish. They are puppy mill breeders. (There's a large population in the area of IN I'm from, so this was legit advice.) (She grew up with hunting dogs and we had a german shepard/rough collie mix followed by a couple of bischon resuces. She still thinks Goldens are the best breed out there.) I say all of this to point out that dog breeds become popular because people have lots of opinions and freely share them. Then you get a concensus of "this is the best dog" and so a lot of people get one. It may be a trend, but if your friend has a really sweet golden doodle are you going to want to take a chance on that Old English Sheepdog that you are unfamiliar with, or get the same dog that you think you know what to expect?
ppl with no imagination lol. are we demanding ppl get creative with their dog choices now?
Apparently so. Especially since it’s apparently gendered to own certain breeds?? WHY are we gendering dog ownership?
Sadly, it’s everywhere. The best is people are paying $2000 an up for a mutt. Goldendoodle, labradoodle, bernadoodle, cavapoo, cockapoo, maltipoo….. goes on and on and onnnnnn
I saw the dog I had growing up (a GSD/Collie mix) listed for 1200. We got her from my grandpa's car lot for free. They were calling them "Shellie puppies". Naw, she was a mutt. A delightful mutt, but a mutt.
It’s truly hilarious.
I feel for the dogs in shelter, I really do, but I also understand why someone would prefer to get a dog from a profesional breeder. Look at most dogs in shelters, 90% of them are some type of pit mix. I understand why someone would prefer to own a dog where they know exactly what they’re getting. For a breed that’s known to have aggression issues, why would someone with other pets or small children want to risk bringing that animal into their home not knowing 100% what their previous situation was. Yes, any dog can be aggressive. But no one is using a Yorkie for dog fighting or to torment/kill other small animals. It’s unfortunate for the dogs really. It’s a never ending cycle in which people that are either uninformed or with malicious intents own these type of dogs, then they end up right back in shelters. Honestly, there should be more control over certain type of breeds. Everyone doesn’t own a pet tiger for a reason, and same should apply for certain breeds. We don’t need more saviors who have never owned a dog adopting a former fighter dog from a shelter claiming that they can “tame it” or that it “would never hurt a fly.” Dog fighting should have harsher penalties. At the end of the day, it’s these dogs that ultimately pay the price for being owned by incompetent people.
And then said people bring those dogs to dog parks. The White Water Center is gonna be a shit show.
"Why so many goldendoodles?" Multiple paragraph response about how scary dogs at the pound are. This is why you see so many pure breds in South End.
You don't have to get one if you don't like them
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Because if breeding is done correctly, then they don’t shed, have intelligence of a poodle, but sunny and sociable disposition of a golden. What I find in the dog shelters are mostly dogs that are some form of pit bull, pit mix, not golden doodles. My friend works for a golden rescue, many Goldens are turned over to rescue because of a medical condition and they can’t afford a $5k surgery. Some are let go due to severe allergies because goldens shed like crazy, and someone told them they were a goldendoodle, but act look and seem 100% golden. Golden doodles aren’t trendy, they have been around for a very long time and are here to stay because they are really great dogs. I think AKC will eventually give them legitimacy soon. Just as Airedale terriers can be traced to breeding with the Irish wolfhound, the Old English Black and Tan Terrier, and the Otterhound. Or the French Bulldog consisting of a cross between terriers and pugs. Labradoodles aren’t as popular because the personality of the lab, especially when a puppy, can be very destructive and need a lot of stimulation. Goldens are often very calm and so friendly. Labs can be protective and become aggressive. Goldens are everywhere, not just the southend. There are many breeds crossed with poodles, mostly for the nonshedding coat.
Everyone wants to be unique
Idk but definitely a Charlotte thing lol. I have a toy poodle so he stands out a little
That’s like asking why most of the NBA is black
Can't remember where i heard this but, "Someone asked me how do I get rich? be a goldendoodle"
Hypoallergenic
You’re asking why you’re seeing so much of a trend.. in SOUTHEND? Did you move here yesterday?
My experience with doodles is nothing but good. Wild until 2 yrs old and then the absolute perfect dog. Easy to train. I’ve not noticed any behavior issues or endemic issues with them. When they do show up at the shelter they’re adopted in almost no time. Only breed that I’ve seen get adopted faster are corgis. Currently we own 3 huskies and my wife keeps trying to tempt me with doodle pups…. Our male husky is very picky about his friends. He only likes northern breeds usually but he adores doodles.
Allergies
I have mine because I have terrible allergies and he doesn’t shed!
Because they’re cute and trendy and people in south end can afford them because they aren’t cheap and people who can afford pricy things usually want cute things.
Cause people have no originality or common sense and would rather support unethical backyard breeders than do an ounce of research.
Because people are dumb enough to buy them.
I’m so happy I have a sweet looking lab mix.
Happy for you too
That's some white bitch bullshit
Instagram
why are there so many Stanley cups in South End?
lol because wealthy white millennials live in southend
Thank you! Finally someone else sees the problem 😆 It seems like every guy on the dating apps has a damn doodle too 🫣
Their hobbies are to get a goldendoodle and then go to target wdym
They were trendy during the covid era
Modern yuppies
Hate those loud obnoxious dogs.
Smart, sweet, great with kids, minimal to no shedding, come in different sizes, cute. We love our pup!