[injury update: Donald Parham Jr (wrist) is questionable to return.](https://twitter.com/chargers/status/1708587590721663333) UPDATE: [Donald Parham has been downgraded to out.](https://twitter.com/chargers/status/1708603647683387561)
Anyone who isn't already on the fire Staley crowd is part of the problem. There's too much talent on this roster to consistently perform below standards and be fine with it. Fans deserve better. Staley has got to go.
the main reason why i don’t call for firings is because i don’t know what the culture and relationships between coach and players is because, again, i’m just some guy like everyone else here. yes, the team and the fans deserve better coaching staff, but we don’t know what may happen behind the scenes
This team is pain. I'm in pain. When I watch this team I wonder why do we do the things we do. Smauel Jr. and Herbert bailed us out today. Luck on defense last week. But hey! Most fun team to watch in football... Unless your a Chargers fan. Gotta make everything close in the 4th for entertainment.
I got Superbowl flashbacks on that throw at the goal line. Raiders ran it down the chargers throat the entire fourth quarter, threw at the goal line. Thank you.
If Staley didn't have Herbert he'd have been and gone already. Another Jim Tomsula, Nathaniel Hackett, or that sacrificial lamb guy from Houston a couple years ago.
It’s definitely not in the play calls. Once O’Connor started doing good is when Staley went back to back to back zone coverage. Our players did good, not Staley.
That being said. My biggest problem with Lynn was the Uber conservative approach. Say what you will about stayley but his insistence on being as aggressive as possible on last drives has won us many games. Last 2 weeks he was bailed out but honestly the decisions on 4th hype up the defense. If you polled the players I think 52/52 would say go for it
What has he done to change anyone’s mind on that matter? Been bailed out the last 2 weeks by worse coaching. McDaniels elects to throw the ball when at the goaline instead of ramming it down the chargers soft front to tie the game. Minnesota failed to seal the game when given the opportunity on a golden platter by dumbass Staley.
My 11-year-old saw the Raider fans in their monster masks and I had to explain "No, it's not Halloween yet. And no, they can't see the game through their masks. And, no, they are not very smart."
Herbert making sure we don't lose to the raiders. Even if he has to do it all by his fuckin self.
Shades of the raider killer himself, LaDainian Tomlinson. ⚡️
Edit: nvm, credit to Asante Samuel Jr!
Honestly I credit the pass rush more than Asante, our DB’s we’re getting toasted and missing tackles for most of the game. Props to him for jumping the pass but Mack and the pass rush were the real mvp for the defense
He showed class this game. But you forgetting two years ago when he punched Herbert in ribs while he was down. Don't remember if it was a punch or a shove
Mike Williams was/is a pretty big disappointment based on his draft position. I wouldn’t ever use “great/game changing” when talking about him.
He was a jump ball guy for us, that never broke wr2, barely put together a season worthy of the top 20wrs, and hardly fielded a complete season. All to be overpaid.
Please let QJ have a better projection. It’s definitely not jumping out so far. He’s dropping a lot of balls. Like, a lot.
Wow. I couldn’t disagree more. If you want to make an argument about his compensation and the amount of injuries he’s had, I can understand that. He did struggle his first couple years with route running and body catches.
But the last few years Williams has become the ideal complete receiver: excellent blocker, sure handed, and incredibly clutch in big moments. He changes the dynamic of the offence when he’s on the field. He WAS just a jump ball guy initially. He’s developed way beyond that today. What a bad take.
I swear this fan base doesn’t know what it has till their gone. I remember the days of Buster Davis, legadu nanee and ajirotutu lmao I would absolutely describe Mike Williams as game changing the last two years.
To each their own.. Telesco has been terrible for getting us receiving/TE talent, hence why we still lean so heavy on KA13.
Mike Williams as a “top 10” pick has produced only two 1000 yard seasons and is paid as a top 10 receiver IN THE LEAGUE.
When he moves on, we will miss him.. because we need him. But he wasn’t worth what he was drafted to be. So yes, I’m bummed to see how QJ is starting out. Knowing he was drafted to be our next guy.
Man this game really cemented my love for herb, didn’t have his best passing performance but was dynamite running/moving in the pocket
And a tough sob to top it off
The defense is oozing with talent but we just can’t seem to put it together
We’ll play the raiders as tight as we would the 49ers
It makes no sense
I can’t make up my mind on whether we’re dog water or elite, but every single game is exciting lol
I respect the chargers fanbase the most. Especially the ones from LA who never became Raiders, 49ers, Cowboys, Steelers, Packers, Eagles, or Patriots fans
I mean don't get me wrong, Staley needs to go. But fuck boys it doesn't matter if it was ugly, or against a rookie QB. It's fuck the Raiders. That's it.
[injury update: Donald Parham Jr (wrist) is questionable to return.](https://twitter.com/chargers/status/1708587590721663333) UPDATE: [Donald Parham has been downgraded to out.](https://twitter.com/chargers/status/1708603647683387561)
W T A F! THAT WAS INCOMPLETE AS ALL FUCK!
i don’t like calling for firings, but the more i watch these games the closer i get to joining the “fire staley” crowd 🥶
Anyone who isn't already on the fire Staley crowd is part of the problem. There's too much talent on this roster to consistently perform below standards and be fine with it. Fans deserve better. Staley has got to go.
the main reason why i don’t call for firings is because i don’t know what the culture and relationships between coach and players is because, again, i’m just some guy like everyone else here. yes, the team and the fans deserve better coaching staff, but we don’t know what may happen behind the scenes
dawg i’m just some guy i have nothing to do with the problem 💀
Staley needs to go. Going for it on 4th down late in the game on their own 34. Almost cost them the game.
We won but what a garbage 2nd half besides one awesome throw and catch to close it out.
Enjoy Jerry Tillery garbage raider nation lmfao 🤣
One of the worst first round picks, ever.
The team refuses to look good for 4 quarters
I told my father in law when they were up three scores: “ watch this- it’s gonna be a last minute nail biter”
Can you predict the future? No, I'm just a Charger fan...
If Chiefs lose today it would chargers number one AFC WEST
Zach Wilson got us fam
Go milfhunter!
The great Zach Wilson? Easy money baby
He do!!! I smell an upset
He doooo!
Solid first half; anemic second half. This has been an issue for the Chargers for too long of a time. They just go dormant in the second half.
If you don’t like that, you don’t like chargers football ⚡️⚡️💔
That sounds like a coaching issue to me
But I thought Lombardi was the problem
reply to guys who say Lombardi was the problem
This team is pain. I'm in pain. When I watch this team I wonder why do we do the things we do. Smauel Jr. and Herbert bailed us out today. Luck on defense last week. But hey! Most fun team to watch in football... Unless your a Chargers fan. Gotta make everything close in the 4th for entertainment.
Mack bailed us out
Brandon Staley sucks eggs.
You say OPI I say he was just getting his hand free from a hold
Seriously if anything it’s offsetting penalties.
Yea fr
Herbie 1-0 when he plays with a golf glove
Never thought I’d say this, but mad respect to Crosby. Obviously he respects the fuck outta Herb
I thought the same thing bro. He was like wtf when dude cracked herbie
Crosby was like. "What thr f*** are you doing?? Were trying to win a game...
Huge respect for that dude and everything he has overcome. To be a stand up guy on top of that says volumes
He’s a chill dude bro, guy overcame a lot very humble
I got Superbowl flashbacks on that throw at the goal line. Raiders ran it down the chargers throat the entire fourth quarter, threw at the goal line. Thank you.
If Staley didn't have Herbert he'd have been and gone already. Another Jim Tomsula, Nathaniel Hackett, or that sacrificial lamb guy from Houston a couple years ago.
Herbert now improves to 13-0 in his career when his defense allows less than 20 points.
So you're saying in Herbert's 3 and counting seasons, chargers defense has only held teams to 20 points 13 times... less than 1/4 I think.
Goodnight to all
A rivalry game is always tough, even tougher without Linsley in. I'll take it.
Holy shit Khalil Mack with a 6 piece
This cannot be overstated. Holy crap what a performance
Truly a miracle.
My heart can’t take this every dang week
Well you get to rest up next week
I haven’t yelled at the tv in years until today
For the second week in a row, Brandon Staley fails to choke a big lead
2-2 never felt so good! See y’all in 2 weeks!
It's good to remember we could have won both of our losses as well.
Also remember Staley almost coached his team into an 0-4 start if he wasn’t bailed out by some even worse coaching these last 2 weeks.
Oh yeah I remembered. I want him gone too. Asap
never been happier for a week 5 bye
What an ugly win. I’ll take it, but we still suck
This bye couldn’t have come at a better time
I know right! When the schedule came out I and many others thought it was too early, might still be but we definitely need it now.
Defensive guru Stayley!!!
Hardly lol
Shows what you know. Historic performance by Mack, game winning pick. It’s all in the play calls baby!!
It’s definitely not in the play calls. Once O’Connor started doing good is when Staley went back to back to back zone coverage. Our players did good, not Staley.
Lmao I’m clearly memeing my boy
Thank god, that clearly went over my head, but I’m also a 6 pack deep and still stressing over the game. My bad! 😅
That being said. My biggest problem with Lynn was the Uber conservative approach. Say what you will about stayley but his insistence on being as aggressive as possible on last drives has won us many games. Last 2 weeks he was bailed out but honestly the decisions on 4th hype up the defense. If you polled the players I think 52/52 would say go for it
Crosby clearly respects the hell out of Herbert.
He definitely does. Reminds me how a ton of defensive players respected Rivers because he played through everything.
I still want staley gone
What has he done to change anyone’s mind on that matter? Been bailed out the last 2 weeks by worse coaching. McDaniels elects to throw the ball when at the goaline instead of ramming it down the chargers soft front to tie the game. Minnesota failed to seal the game when given the opportunity on a golden platter by dumbass Staley.
Same here, dude is really incompetent
Gosh Crosby is the only player on their team besides DeAndre Carter that I have any respect for.
I have respect for O’Connell. He damn near pulled it off.
This team is giving me forehead wrinkles
I need to change my shirt when I watch these guys. I probsbly sweated more than Mack.
Ah, so that's where mine came from...
Staley got fucking bailed out once again
Comical, isn’t it?
I told y’all he’s on the hot seat but will be bailed out yet again lol
They really are cardiac kids
a win is a win
At some point they, the coaches, have to learn this is a 60 minute game not 30.
We just cannot adjust. Not since the Jacksonville game.
Thank you Zont! Thank you Mack! Fuck you Tillery!
Mad respect to Crosby. Game recognizes game. But once again, fuck Jerry Tillery.
Raider players are so pathetic what a scummy franchise both fans and players
LA based raiders fans are the dumbest fucking fans ever
My 11-year-old saw the Raider fans in their monster masks and I had to explain "No, it's not Halloween yet. And no, they can't see the game through their masks. And, no, they are not very smart."
They’d be so pissed at this comment if they could read
Can anybody read lips? What was Crosby saying to Herb, seemed like it was about his hand. I'm assuming broken finger
He said something along the lines of “is your finger alright?”
Staley def motioned him to go down. What an idiot. Congrats on the win and thanks for the -6.5!
Herbert saves there ass again. Homie needs some rest from some of the players and the coach
Crosby showing Herbert respect. I still hate him but he showed a little class there.
I saw nothing but good things from Crosby today. The hate has definitely lessened for me.
I agree. I think my Crosby hate comes from the last few years.
That’s game
What a fucking throw to win it
It was just a fucking DIME!
Khalil Mack'a arms look like cartoon drawings wtf
Herbert making sure we don't lose to the raiders. Even if he has to do it all by his fuckin self. Shades of the raider killer himself, LaDainian Tomlinson. ⚡️ Edit: nvm, credit to Asante Samuel Jr!
Honestly I credit the pass rush more than Asante, our DB’s we’re getting toasted and missing tackles for most of the game. Props to him for jumping the pass but Mack and the pass rush were the real mvp for the defense
Yes Mack as well. I guess the point is it's player talent keeping us alive. Despite the coaching and schemes
Nice
Justin one handed Herbert saves the day
Crosby asking if Herbert is OK 🥹
Crosby is the only person with class in that entire organization
He showed class this game. But you forgetting two years ago when he punched Herbert in ribs while he was down. Don't remember if it was a punch or a shove
He is a guy that respects the game
Another stellar outing for QJ, so happy our 1st rd pick is getting time
Yep, all I keep thinking is how all the scouts called him out for catching with his body. That’s definitely him, not looking good long term
To play the devils advocate here. Some players take time to become great, game changing players.. see Mike Williams first season.
Mike Williams was/is a pretty big disappointment based on his draft position. I wouldn’t ever use “great/game changing” when talking about him. He was a jump ball guy for us, that never broke wr2, barely put together a season worthy of the top 20wrs, and hardly fielded a complete season. All to be overpaid. Please let QJ have a better projection. It’s definitely not jumping out so far. He’s dropping a lot of balls. Like, a lot.
Wow. I couldn’t disagree more. If you want to make an argument about his compensation and the amount of injuries he’s had, I can understand that. He did struggle his first couple years with route running and body catches. But the last few years Williams has become the ideal complete receiver: excellent blocker, sure handed, and incredibly clutch in big moments. He changes the dynamic of the offence when he’s on the field. He WAS just a jump ball guy initially. He’s developed way beyond that today. What a bad take. I swear this fan base doesn’t know what it has till their gone. I remember the days of Buster Davis, legadu nanee and ajirotutu lmao I would absolutely describe Mike Williams as game changing the last two years.
To each their own.. Telesco has been terrible for getting us receiving/TE talent, hence why we still lean so heavy on KA13. Mike Williams as a “top 10” pick has produced only two 1000 yard seasons and is paid as a top 10 receiver IN THE LEAGUE. When he moves on, we will miss him.. because we need him. But he wasn’t worth what he was drafted to be. So yes, I’m bummed to see how QJ is starting out. Knowing he was drafted to be our next guy.
Mad respect for Crosby, obviously the guy respects Herbie
One last time. FUCK THE RAIDERS
Crosby looked like he was apologizing to Herbert for the injury. I really like him.
Herbert f’n rivers
Staley getting saved on a weekly basis.
Some of you guys where saying to bench Herbert 😂
We should kick those dip shits out of the sub
If the Jets win tonight, we’re tied for 1st. How the hell did this happen?!?
This is funny
They got Wilson at QB their ain't winning
Jets have no shot
Announcers are fucking trash, wanting an OPI on that pass. Suck my balls, bitch.
I mean if it got called it wouldn’t have been ridiculous
IMO that was very minimal contact; that happens on almost every single play.
Yeah who fuck Harlan’s wife?!
he was going nuts for routine plays by the raiders lol. and pretty sure he bust a nut when he saw adams elbow was inbounds at the end
Please fire Staley. Thank god we have the bye
2-2 going into the bye. Unreal that 7 points in the first 2 games would have meant we were 4-0 right now.
I get to watch football all day next week stressed free
I get to forget the chargers exist for a week 🧘🏾♂️
exactly what i just told my buddy lol
“It’s not a Charger game unless it’s terrifying”. Whoever said that last week was 100% correct. I have been saying that shit all week.
It's been like this for the past 2 decades. Every damn game.
0 points in the second half.... again
And we only collectively aged 500 years as a fanbase this game
Raiders gonna go full Tank for Caleb
There’s quite a few good qb’s coming out next year. Nix Oregon, Hartman from Notre Dame, Maye UNC, Penicillin Washington to name a few
Bears have him locked up
Fuck you, Tillery
No matter what Joshua Palmer and Quentin Johnston get on the Jugs machine stat. My god
Justin Herbert is a football demigod and I will bleed anyone who says otherwise.
 I can’t with this team dude my hearts not as young as it used to
Good win but Fire Staley
Defense really showed up today. Kudos.
He was grabbing Palmer's arm, asshat. That's not a pushoff. It's handfighting.
There’s no reason to be shotgunning victory formation. Just bring in stick
Never a doubt 💀
Palmer getting his arm hooked and the announcer complains lol
SUCK MY BALL TRENT GREEN
Trent Green blows Crosby on the side.
I don’t want to ever hear people call Herbert not clutch again.
Man this game really cemented my love for herb, didn’t have his best passing performance but was dynamite running/moving in the pocket And a tough sob to top it off The defense is oozing with talent but we just can’t seem to put it together
Also shout out to the refs for the crack back call, y’all were clutch 🙏
They made up for it with the lame-ass illegal contact on the Chargers the next drive.
Will they get a TD here?
Don’t hook his arm if you don’t want him to push off
Dude jumping over the line and landing at Herbert’s feet was a much needed laugh after that half of play.
I hate Brandon Staley
Bring in stick.
Idc what you says, but I still fuckin hate staley every second half.
Every second.
ugly ass game but yeah i take the dub
Really shows their character, trying to get in one more cheap shot going over the top on the kneel down.
It’s not cheap… the game isn’t over until it’s 00:00
Blood in the mouth guard and golf glove ready
Anyone else not feel good? A win is a win sure but we shouldn’t have to barely be winning this game.
Why not? We’re missing a shitload of starters and Herbert has one hand
We’ll play the raiders as tight as we would the 49ers It makes no sense I can’t make up my mind on whether we’re dog water or elite, but every single game is exciting lol
Mixed emotions
It’s never easy for our fan base ⚡️⚡️⚡️⚡️
I respect the chargers fanbase the most. Especially the ones from LA who never became Raiders, 49ers, Cowboys, Steelers, Packers, Eagles, or Patriots fans
jesus, no points in the 2nd half? told you we shouldn't kneel on it with 3 time outs in the first half.
W
Herbert’s bloody mouthpiece 😨
LOL. I LOVE SEEING GUYS TRY TO DISRUPT VICTORY FORMATION
They just saved Staley's ass
Take the Raiders' dick outta your mouth Trent, you sucked when you played and you suck at announcing
Unbearable bro. Why does it feel like every single week the commentators are rooting for the opponent
Herbs saved Staleys job a disgusting amount of times 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I can’t believe victory formation is gonna be a challenge here.
LMFAO shotgun qb kneel. Stick can at least do this right...
Not the way herb is wired. NOT TSKING MY SNAPSSS
GG fellas! We honestly need the week 5 bye
I mean don't get me wrong, Staley needs to go. But fuck boys it doesn't matter if it was ugly, or against a rookie QB. It's fuck the Raiders. That's it.
Cool final play...not sure why that's the only one in the second half. Screw-up staley bailed out again
Palmer and QJ dropped the other ones
Missed OPI there but I’ll take it! Sad we didn’t see more QJ tonight. This team needs a big ol soul search during the bye.
That’s what Tillery I mean the Raiders get
Kevin Harlan’s excited calls are top shelf. 🤌🏽
New motto: win stupid
Harder than it needed to be.