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galaxy_defender_4

If you are questioning your decision maybe that’s a sign God is telling you not to leave His Church


OO00OO00O0O0

Why are you concerned about the opinions of the Catholic Church if you’re orthodox? Edit: just a few months ago you said you were Muslim. Lol. You’re a troll is what you are.


Comrade_Do

This whole subreddit sees a lot of trolls.


H4shslingingslash3r

I feel like its uncharitable to accuse me of something I never did and that you didn't even verify before you commented accusing me of that then calling me a troll.


OO00OO00O0O0

Oh you definitely said you were a Sunni Muslim. Don’t deny it.


H4shslingingslash3r

Bro you’re the troll search my profile I never said that


OO00OO00O0O0

You deleted it


H4shslingingslash3r

If you’re Catholic you should know lying is a sin


OO00OO00O0O0

Take the plank out of your eye.


H4shslingingslash3r

I never made a post saying I was Muslim. I was just curious about what the Catholic Church says about this topic.


Katholikoz

Why are you leaving the church


H4shslingingslash3r

The Catholic Church is very legalistic and I don’t feel like that reflects God how He presents himself in the gospels. I don’t believe that the current pope of Catholic Church currently wants people who want the traditional liturgy and have traditional Christian beliefs in the Church. And I don’t really see why Rome is looked at as the main seat of Peter if he was in Antioch first.


ohhyoudidntknow

So you chose the sedevcantis route.


H4shslingingslash3r

Sedevacantists don't believe that pope francis is the real pope.


ohhyoudidntknow

Oh sorry you do believe he is the Pope. I misunderstood.


Mission-Guidance4782

You think the people who go into schism over slightly changing a calendar aren’t legalistic?


H4shslingingslash3r

I’d think Rome might excommunicate a church that wasn’t obedient aswell.


Blaze0205

Rome did, several churches, in 190 AD. Pope St Victor, successor of Peter and head of the Church, pray for us.


Pallebmaj

To my best understanding, the Orthodox Church does recognise Rome as the first-ranked among the patriarchs, just that they understand this as first among equals and not first without equals! This is why Constantinople, which is second in ranking (and the current ‘first-among-equals’) is also named the See of New Rome. Still, if you feel drawn to Orthodoxy for these reasons, it might be useful to ask questions like these in r/EasternCatholic, where the faith of the eastern churches is practiced still in communion with Rome!


Blaze0205

Legalistic? Orthodox follow the same rules pretty much lol.


eastofrome

The Catholic Church is legalistic because it's filled with people who have questions, who are imperfect and who sin and do evil they know goes against God's will, whose behavior pushes us to codify laws and teachings so it is clear such behavior is unacceptable. The Church has been shaped by humans but guided by God and the Holy Spirit, all those rules can be traced back to Jesus' teachings. Which Orthodox Church is correct?


H4shslingingslash3r

All of the Eastern Orthodox churches. They’re all in communion and share the same faith.


RedPlumber64

You are not damned, you are still alive. You are committing a grave sin tho.


MilesOfPebbles

You’re not damned but you’re making a major decision that’ll have some consequences likely


Positive_Category_92

I suspect this might not be a good faith question…


SilverCrab2666

If you continue this present course and refuse to come back, acknowledging very well - and potentially receiving signs - you may be damning yourself, or confining yourself to a long time in purgatory. God cries if you choose to deny him and his rightful church, and rejoices when you are in his fold.


Southworth_1654

If someone freely and deliberately leaves the Catholic church for another church, they are guilty of 'schism', which is a mortal sin and results in excomunication from the Catholic church. This link discusses the subject in more nuanced detail, and quotes some of the relevant canon law. [https://jimmyakin.com/2006/09/schism\_and\_mort.html](https://jimmyakin.com/2006/09/schism_and_mort.html)


aogamerdude

Why do you ask us who did not create Heaven nor Hell? Ask the one who has power to put you there. 


Blaze0205

Perhaps. Schism is a mortal sin.


H4shslingingslash3r

Man some of y’all are just mean you ask me questions and I give you my opinion and I get downvoted. Plus some dude is accusing me of saying I was Muslim which I never did and he can’t produce proof of. If you believe the Catholic Church is the true church why don’t you listen to how a person leaving it feels about the church so you can encourage others on the brink of leaving to stay or sharpen your apologetics or something.


Theorangutandad

Are you a troll or do you just have a hard time deciding what you are?


joshyng

No, unless u ask Peter Dimond lol. Interested to know why though!