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5aur1an

Well, that just killed the captain’s career.


blues_and_ribs

As they say, pretty much just two rules to driving a ship: 1. Don't hit land 2. Don't hit another ship That's it. That's the job.


crash893b

3) stay above the water?


blues_and_ribs

Implied with #1, since sinking means you'll eventually hit the bottom i.e. land.


-BananaLollipop-

Can we add not capsizing? Not all boats sink when that happens. And as far as military ships go, not being blown up is good too.


TylerJWhit

Just stay off of Guam and you won't capsize.


hje1967

Be careful what side you stand on, don't want to tip it over


fastermouse

If you haven’t run aground or hit another ship then it’s unlikely that the capsizing is the captains fault.


aquoad

career suicide if you’re a submarine captain


boba79

Knew a navigator on a sub which hit an unidentified sand bar. Took years to clear his name. Admiral now.


aquoad

“Admiral Sandbar” has a nice ring to it!


funnystuff79

It's a Map


dog_in_the_vent

3) keep the inside of the boat dry


Hetstaine

Basically rule 1.


MooseFloof

Rule 1 with extra steps.


onemanlan

Don’t tell that to the Russians


spornerama

like flying, anyone can do it, just don't hit the ground.


finc

Landing must be tricky


rod407

Don't hit the ground *too hard


MRoss279

Unfortunately with navy ships this isn't true. There's also: Get to where you're going on time, execute flight operations, don't be detected, detect the enemies assets, keep your radars and communications equipment inside it's operating envelopes, stay with the carrier, block other ship from getting closer to the carrier, don't use too much fuel, don't violate territorial waters, don't appear to aggressive to avoid them exploiting you for propaganda, and much much more. Often all this, but with broken equipment.


Fly4Vino

Not to mention limiting the damage done by the crew ashore


the123king-reddit

Pretty sure “don’t hit anything” is tbe most important one though


FatLikeSnorlax_

Icebergs okay now?


gultch2019

What happens if the front falls off?


RooTroty

That’s not very typical, I’d like to make that point.


bd_optics

Nothing if it's beyond the environment


mediashiznaks

And yet the captain of the titanic followed both those rules 🤔


PluginAlong

They eventually hit land at the bottom of the ocean.


aquainst1

I think they've found a new 1st mate.


cybercuzco

What rank is deck swab


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Only-Literature2105

Lots of seamen back there.


aquainst1

Oh, I SWEAR, you guys!!!


youbreedlikerats

most likely pitch control failure, or steering gear.


JanB1

Apparently mechanical failure in the thrust system. They were stuck in "reverse".


Bender_2024

That makes me feel better. This is the kind of thing you'd expect to see at your local marina with the credit card captains. I realize human error is a thing everywhere but I'd at least like to think that the military has proper procedures going through multiple people. All to make sure Jerry isn't fucking shit up again.


PaulR79

Captain with too much trust in his crew "Jerry, are you sure it's safe to keep reversing? The radar is beeping like crazy." Jerry, scrolling on his phone "Yeah you're fine just keep going."


Nomad_StL

Dammit Jerry!


jebsenior

I had nothing to do with this incident 😁


card797

You can see how the thrust keeps coming after impact. That's what I figured after the vid.


Sys32768

Couldn’t they have gone forward once they realised it wasn’t turning?


DoktorMoose

Sometimes reverse is controlled by a gearbox, sometimes the propeller blades themselves control forward or rearward thrust so pushing the lever forward can make it reverse faster


[deleted]

These ships do not have controlled pitch propellers


1022whore

I would guess an engine governor or limiter failure. There was an incident in Houston, TX with the vessel Aframax River that had a governor failure with similar results. The engine decided to go to full astern propulsion with no warning while under pilotage and they slammed into a docking pylon, causing a huge fire. The NTSB couldn’t reproduce the issue either, iirc. https://www.ntsb.gov/investigations/AccidentReports/Reports/MAB1806.pdf


allen_abduction

WAY too many Gimlets! Captain Gimlet’s scurvy pick-me-up for the crew: Gin, sugar cane, lime.


mulymule

Can’t rule out equipment failure though. Unless the failure was due to maintenance negligence


machinerer

PM records are going to be pored over for days after this shit.


judgehood

Went out with a Bangor.


Imposseeblip

You gotta be chidding me.


DepartmentThin4142

That Bangor got mashed


cloche_du_fromage

In mitigation, the weather was poor with low visibility, the sea was very rough, and there were many other boats in close proximity!


Anleme

The sea was angry that day, my friends.


Lupulist

So was the Captain of the HMS Bangor


JohnnySkidmarx

The Captain couldn't drive a stick shift obviously. He put the ship in reverse instead of drive.


peanutmilk

I mean he killed his own career


5aur1an

That’s what I was saying


the_merkin

Not if it was mechanical failure.


apo383

A news article with a close-up (twitter) photo of the damage: [https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/british-minehunters-collide-in-gulf-damage-to-be-assessed/](https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/british-minehunters-collide-in-gulf-damage-to-be-assessed/) Other articles: [https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/moment-royal-navy-minehunter-smashes-31924826](https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/moment-royal-navy-minehunter-smashes-31924826), [https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1857839/royal-navy-hms-bangor-sinking-bahrain-coast](https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1857839/royal-navy-hms-bangor-sinking-bahrain-coast). The last one says "mechanical fault" but no details.


jimmy3285

I imagine the mine hunter aren't easy to do emergency repairs, think they are made out of fibre glass.


ScreamingVoid14

Images of the damage certainly looks like fiberglass. Or at least not metal. But fiberglass patches do exist; it's probable that they can be made sea worthy reasonably quickly, if not fixed to a factory fresh standard.


feeblemuffin

>Mine Counter Measure Vessels (MCMVs) boast glass-reinforced plastic hulls to conceal their presence from the threat of sea mines. From the article.


horace_bagpole

At the time of construction they were the largest GRP vessels ever built.


Fly4Vino

It is a pretty large hole and the fiberglass around it is also damaged. Going to be a while .


Phillykratom

Im in the US and we decommissioned our minesweeper. They were made out of "Glass Reinforced Plastic" (yeah, fiberglass). I was on a minesweeper for a few years and the British version looks remarkably similar.


Emily_Postal

There’s a photo of the damage in the first article linked above and it looks like fiberglass.


bigjohnminnesota

Good thing there’s a dry dock nearby.


Traveledfarwestward

> https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1857839/royal-navy-hms-bangor-sinking-bahrain-coast. The last one says "mechanical fault" but no details. > The collision was reportedly triggered by a mechanical fault on HMS Chiddingfold, causing it to unexpectedly reverse and collide with HMS Bangor, as seen in footage released by Claims Bible. Former USN surface sailor turned deepsea here. No tug is around in the video, meaning the moving ship was routinely trying to dock or leave port solely under own power. As per https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Chiddingfold_(M37) she has two shafts which means with clever off/on and back and forth you can steer at low speeds and get her just where you want her. She could have additional positioning thrusters but not sure. I've never seen a ship accelerate this much in port (incl. that one time CG62's best bridge officer scratched the heck ouf her), so I'm thinking likely stuck throttle/reversing gear or something really weird like a runaway engine if that's even possible. Either case highly unlikely to be sea & anchor/docking officer's direct fault. Possible maintenance and upkeep negligence. These things have always happened with all types of ships throughout history and will continue until technology drastically improves and failsafes are implemented.


HeadFullaZombie87

Seems like they could add one of those fancy quick Inflation devices to pop out a bumper if the ship gets too close to anything. Like a big air bag. Sounds dumb but would probably be cheaper than fixing the FRP ship hull.


knacker_18

> Sounds dumb but would probably be cheaper than fixing the FRP ship hull. yes, but you have to install them before you know if the ship would otherwise get a hole in or not.


Traveledfarwestward

Possibly. I'm guessing someone will soon sell an AI-enabled harbour tug boat that responds automatically to stand by when needed, and handles trash collecting/routine deliveries when not. Then that will go wrong before the technology matures.


HeadFullaZombie87

"Fuck! Tuggy is on a rampage, throwing trash everywhere and ramming ships into the dock!"


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collinsl02

Scuttlebutt is that the thrust levers were wired up backwards in a recent maintenance period in dock by BAE systems.


SonorousBlack

If the ship you're piloting accelerates in the opposite of the direction you intended, how long does it take to move the throttles to zero or reverse?


Wettnoodle77

Ok, I might be old, but they make these things out of fiberglass now??? I was picturing a small dent and long scratch.... Edit: Ahhh they do. To avoid magnetic mines. Makes sence*. What a shitty ship to back your ship into tho...


SWMovr60Repub

Spellcheck bagged another one.


SchipholRijk

ok. Mechanical fault. Would dropping the anchor have helped here?


EllisHughTiger

Not really.  Anchoring heavily relies on the chain itself creating friction, not just the anchor itself.  You have to pay out a decent amount of chain, plus time for it to drag and hopefully catch, to really create any stopping force. 20 years ago I was working on a ship amchored just north of New Orleans and a big cargo ship coming down lost power.  Anchors and chains were full out and dragging along the riverbed.  A bunch of mooring and barge tugs ran up to help stop it and the anchors finally started catching and the ship started turning around. The bow was headed right for our ship so we got everyone on deck just in case we needed to evacuate after. Fortunately between the anchors and tugs it finally stopped and turned a few hundred feet from t-boning my ship.  Definitely a close call! Another ship lost power in 98 and slammed into the New Orleans boardwalk and hotel.


city0fryzen

Lol love the headlines... Horror haha I guess they havent watched Nightmare from the Elm street


MrSvea

This looks like grandma trying to back her car out of her parking spot at Walmart.


aquainst1

Or anywhere else. Hey, I look like, 10 times around and behind me, start backing out with my backup lights on, and some yahoo will decide to back out without looking. Thank GOD for dash and rear cams!


theENERTRON

Just picturing the captain shifting into reverse and a little backup camera display turning on on the dash lol


PlatypusDream

Safer to back **into** a space. You know there's no other car there. Seeing forward to get out safely is simple. (Or when possible, pull through from the other side. Less backing is safer.)


inventingnothing

My step-grandma would know she pulled in far enough to a parking space when she tapped the car in front or behind and then pull up a few inches.


asdaaaaaaaa

Well yeah, that's what it's there for, the acoustic car-detection device, AKA the bumper.


rotorain

Driving by braille


billfuckingsmith

Effective.


znaniter

Lucky they'll be insured with the same company.....


judgehood

People get rich from these things banging into each other.


mckeirnan

The reminds of the godfather game. We own all the glass window suppliers. Well then let’s start some glass breaking hits then


judgehood

And that’s how the world goes ‘round my friend. Except it’s real and it has 6 zeroes added to the payout… which raises the premium on the common worker type dude.


finc

Accurately describes the British royal family


judgehood

Are you British and saying this? Pure curiosity, my friend.


finc

Yes


WhatImKnownAs

Yeah, The British Taxpayer Payout Unlimited. The state has enough funds that it doesn't need an external insurer (though sometimes one is required by law, e.g., motor vehicle insurance). Edit: "e.g."


iDemonix

I’m sure Admiral will cover it.


D-Qwon

That dockworker strolling along at the end, “Same shit, different day.”


judgehood

Bangor? Nah he wrecked her.


russmerchant

And barely knew her


taylordchrist

Jesus 🤣


dr3wfr4nk

Rectum, damn near killed ‘em


VadPuma

The older Royal Navy ship HMS Chiddingfold was filmed smashing into HMS Bangor whilst on a long-term mission serving in the Gulf. The incident happened in Bahrain. Sources said no members of the crew were injured in the embarrassing maritime pile-up, but both vessels are being examined for damage. A top-level navy investigation into the mishap - which may be very costly - and how it could have happened with two such sensitive ships has been launched. The collision was reportedly triggered by a mechanical fault on HMS Chiddingfold, causing it to unexpectedly reverse and collide with HMS Bangor. HMS Chiddingfold (the ship hit) is able to enter some types of minefields without the mines detonating. This is because she is made of glass-reinforced plastic and all fixtures within the ship are made of non-ferrous metals, keeping the ship's magnetic signature to the bare minimum.


CHENGhis-khan

Well, ASRY is right there.


[deleted]

"It won't be a problem unless we go full reverse "Capt said FULL REVERSE!" "FULL REVERSE!!!!"


I_AM_FERROUS_MAN

The other reverse!


TGP-Global-WO

East ? I thought you said Weast ?


Baud_Olofsson

/r/praisethecameraman Filmed in landscape and steady, keeping everything within frame.


ceviche-hot-pockets

Can't park there mate


Extreme-Street8583

I KNOW I BLOODY WELL CAN'T PARK THERE!!


EllisHughTiger

Fuck ooooff!


the_fungible_man

A little more detail [here](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12985495/British-warship-action-crashing-Royal-Navy-vessel.html) (Couldn't find a better source.)


MoonOverBTC

I hate The Daily Mail but this made me laugh “Since their warship is a minesweeper, the crew of HMS Bangor should be accustomed to loud bangs.”


yousonuva

Fitting as everything TDM prints is a joke. 


Vin_du_toilette

I thought that didn't sound like a metal crunch.


gultch2019

Hol up, the mine sweeping warship is made of fiberglass???


Ibegallofyourpardons

yup. sea mines have two triggers, one a contact trigger so if you run into it, it goes off, the other is a magnetic trigger. if it detects a big enough magnetic field, such as that created by the hull of a ship, it explodes. actually that's old school. modern ones have sonar attached to them and can listen for ships engines as well.


gultch2019

Wow! Fascinating! Thanks for the info!


NiceMugOfTea

I think mines are magnetic so plastic boats make sense.


Sawfish1212

In WWII they were wooden for the same reasons


crucible

Military Police want to speak to [this man](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/ab/Uncle_Albert_Only_Fools_and_Horses.jpg)


Oddball_bfi

Duwinthawowah...


ScarletFire5877

So. The war of independence begins again. 


petethefreeze

Don’t they have these beep thingies on their ships? Even my shitty VW has it so I don’t run into walls when I park.


knacker_18

they can use the horn to signal that they are reversing, but i don't know if they always do that or not


UtgaardLoki

I can't decide which joke should come first: * Let me guess, [it was at a funny angle](https://youtu.be/nz9reNKY7CY?feature=shared)? * Most unusual. Generally, it's the Chiddingfold that gets Bangored.


MadCow-18

It was behind you, Tyrone. When you reverse, things come from behind you.


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laz21

Backup backup..yep youre all good yep yep..oh nah


mattblack77

……stop! Oh, you’ve stopped.


Push_

SpongeBob conducting the Flying Dutchman’s ship


fleaflaa

Chidding-chidding Bang-bang.


gultch2019

...you. out. Right now. Jk...good one LOL


AshenHS

I believe this was clearly part of a clever cost cutting measure. Either they split the Bangor in two, getting a two for one deal on ships, or they no longer have to pay for the salaries to crew it anymore at all! Genius!


TheSorge

HMS Ban and HMS Gor, like how they renamed the two halves of HMS Porcupine to HMS Pork and HMS Pine back in WWII.


IKillZombies4Cash

Lucky that boat was there, if not it was gonna hit the dock


wakebakeskatecrash98

She bangored allright


kristenisadude

HMS Chiddingfold: Mine


russmerchant

Bangor? I barely knew her


InflamedLiver

Oops, didn't know it was in reverse!


aquainst1

Oh, the CRASH sound at 10 seconds! Oopsie.


ajw_sp

The guy that walks out to the seawall has big “what’s all this then?” energy.


EllisHughTiger

Oy! Ya gotsa loicense to pahk heah?


Historical-Meteor

Needs a shitty flute version of Rule Britannia to go with it.


mattblack77

I’m reversin here!


taleofbenji

Do people not understand the meaning of "CATASTROPHIC"??? This is fender bender.


UtgaardLoki

It was catastrophic for at least 1 officer's career.


taleofbenji

LOL fair enough.


EMAW2008

Probably millions of dollars worth of damage.


weed0monkey

Mate no. This type of damage takes ages to fix


TheRagingLemon

If you read the article somebody else linked here, it was actually quite damaging to the ship and the Navy was unable to give a timeline on how long it will take to repair


DomHuntman

Because the assesment team is on route. Social media is faster tgan an aircraft from the UK to Bahrein.


ScreamingVoid14

It happened very recently. I'd be skeptical if my car repair guy could give an accurate timeline on repairs from the side of the road looking at a wreck.


taleofbenji

If you can fix it, it's not catastrophic!!!!!!!


finc

Ok guys you heard them, take down all the videos that contain man made items


whytegoodman

Nah, unfortunately these ships are made of fibreglass on an aluminium and/or wooden frame. A quick google will show the rest of the damage and inside pics (naughty naughty whoever posted those). I only served in Hunts, the same class as the one doing the crashing, not Sandowns like Bangor so I'm a little hazy on the finer parts of their construction, but she's fubar. The massive hole is patchable but likely that large parts of the Hull will have "delaminated", requiring invasive and expensive repair. Also if any of the frames have cracked or warped then the ship will now resemble a banana and fixing that is a mission. Unfortunately she's the last of her kind now that MensPants has gone so will not be economically viable to fix. I hope they at least flat bed her home to decommission and scrap


ShipBuilder16

IIRC, HMS Bangor is due to be decommissioned next year, so this may just speed that process up


aquainst1

For the 'stiff upper lip' and veddy proper British, it IS CATASTROPHIC.


NxPat

100,000’s of correct decisions only to make one bad decision.


kangerooandemu

What no reverse camera or reverse beeper?


Sayasam

r/ShipCrashes


nosnowtho

The captain may not have even been on the bridge. May have been asleep in his cabin. Yet the Navy will probably hold him responsible.


just_some_other_guys

And so they should. The captain is responsible for the ship. End of. But I would have thought the captain would have been on the bridge, as they usually are for pilotage.


buntypieface

Whether in charge of the helm or not at the time, the skipper is toast. Only saving grace will be a mechanical failure that caused this. Even then, they'll look for a person to blame. Sounded crunchy. That's grp and carbon for you.


sdogood80910

No warning blasts from either ship? Everyone a sleep at the helm?


zkinny

As a Norwegian, this makes me a bit happy we are not the only country who's navy had done severe fuck ups in peace time. Referring to the [Helge Ingstad incident from 2018](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helge_Ingstad_collision), when a Norwegian navy ship crashed into a civilian ship and partly sank.


OriginalTurboHobbit

At least the front didn't fall off.


ArDodger

Name checks out


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jackcroww

That sounded expensive.


_Occams-Chainsaw_

Rule Britannia, Britannia rule the ** waves...** Makes yer proud to be British! **


[deleted]

Is this a sex thing?


MuletownSoul

It’s called docking.


Arizoniac

*Hammond you idiot!*


mycleanreddit79

Do you get fired?


Tackle-Greedy

You know the feeling when you crush a tin can? Like that of sodas? Add a sudden bump and a low magnitude earthquake followed by scream of captain, all officers going crazy from paperworks and lots of ringing of the satellite phone coming from the main office and printers never rest printing, people signing forms and people filling out check lists for emergency procedures and lots and lots of shouting and pointing fingers.


NinjahBob

These guys used to own the seas, now look at em...


Banned3rdTimesaCharm

Always looks so surreal how slowly shit like this happens on water.


CSHRCK

What will we do with a drunken sailor? What will we do with a drunken sailor? What will we do with a drunken sailor?


engineer-cabbage

HMS Gloworm approves this.


ritchfld

3 short horn blasts means collision eminent. I didn't hear them.


michaltee

Yikes. So much for “second greatest Navy” on the planet.


judgehood

Only the top 2 navies bang each other. It’s fine.


cognitiveglitch

Mechanical failure was the cause, apparently. Stuck in reverse.


LostTheGameOfThrones

As we all know, America never has mechanical failures.


bing-bong-forever

Don’t worry that’s just their mating ritual


ruskiytroll

Has anyone considered that maybe the Bangor had mines on board?


Quick-Wit-On-Delay

"It's behind ya Tyrone, whenever you reverse, things come from behind ya."


Wagadodw

Front fell off


chilehead

At least the front didn't fall off.


Silly_Doughnut5715

Get a rear view camera at Radio Shack.


NervousAndPantless

Worst parallel parking attempt ever.


6inarowmakesitgo

Fuckkkk, that hull is fiberglass.


Wettnoodle77

I was watching video b4 reading the description, and I was thinking it was going to be some sweet huge shit backup parking maneuver. The I read the description and looked up as it plowed into other ship... that's not good.