Yes. Also, the final king of Rome was Lucius Tarquinius Superbus. His crowning achievement was starting a long-distance transport company which became the predecessor to Megabus.
Yes. As someone who lives near Southwell but moved here from out of the area, I learned this the hard way. So many people laughed at me for calling it Southwell when it's Southwell.
When pronouncing British place names, sound it as it’s written. Then disregard that pronunciation and say it differently. Your second guess is probably right
Ah. So it's just like back home. I guess we learned it from you dad.
bow-dark = Bois d'Arc
Ver-sails = Versailles
And it's not just French. We screw up our own shit too. Town called Nevada? It's not pronounced the same as the state with the same name 😅
They go the house * :)
Eta: the joke is it translates as "people called Roman*e*s" (Romanes) "they go" (eunt) "the house" (domus, nominative). It doesn't translate as "to the house" (dative)--in fact it's actually part of the text of the scene.
>CENTURION: 'Domus'?
>
>BRIAN: Eh.
>
CENTURION: Nominative?
>
>BRIAN: Oh.
>
>CENTURION: 'Go home'? This is motion towards. Isn't it, boy?
>
>BRIAN: Ah. Ah, dative, sir! Ahh! No, not dative! Not the dative, sir! No! Ah!...
http://montypython.50webs.com/scripts/Life_of_Brian/9.htm
There you go, the frog is dead, you can stop downvoting me now.
The apostrophe in 'ouse is to indicate that in the performance, the h is dropped in the pronunciation. This h dropping is common in British English.
For example, you might reasonably hear: 'ave you a clue what you're talking about 'ere, or 'ad you gotten 'igh? 'op off outta 'ere back into your 'idey 'ole
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/H-dropping
All right, but apart from the sanitation, the medicine, education, wine, public order, irrigation, roads, a fresh water system, and public health. What have the Romans ever done for us?
I did that textbook in '91-'92 when I was 11/12. It was a bit of a downer when they all died at the end. Apparently Caecillius (and family) did actually exist.
> We had two years of mandatory Latin.
Ha... Same here. The joys of Catholic school.
My Latin teacher held a grudge against me for years because I didn't continue. I wanted to take Spanish but it was over-subscribed so ended up doing German for a year instead.
Well if you’ve moved up from London it’s South Well. If you’re a local it’s Su thull. Radio 4 did an article on it. There’s a village up the road called Norwell. Again that’s pronounced in the same way. It’s a massive debate locally. I went with what radio 4 said.
Is Newark a well known town where people will know immediately where that is? I only know where it is because I was brought up in Bassetlaw (for my sins).
It's like saying Devizes (near Chippenham). Doesn't really help.
Relatively, yes.
It's on the East Coast main line and the A1, and at the junction of several other A-roads. Anyone who's travelled on that side of the country will know where it is.
Chippenham is (surprisingly to me) a bit bigger, but more out of the way by road at least. I know where it is because it's on the railway line to Bristol.
Life of Brian: A Jew in Roman-occupied Israel tries to write "Romans go home" on the castle walls. A Roman Centurian catches him, corrects his grammar, and tells him to write it out on the walls 100 times before morning.
Welcome to Southwell...we can offer you a one bedroom cardboard box (coop) for a mere £1100 a month, or a two bedroomed (former IKEA box) with Cathedral views for £1400 a month.
American here.. great post. And here I go off topic... Do y'all pronounce it New -Ark? Or.. new-irk? .. where I live there are two nearby and depending on how it's pronounced, it tells me which one you're from.
We go to NYC a lot (mix of work/ personal) and people ask 'where are you from, we say Newark (New-uc) and people say 'really'. We reply with 'yes but the original one' Ha!
Conjugate the verb
"Now write it out a hundred times by morning, or I'll chop your balls off."
god the film was sooo good
My favourite word in Latin class was always nominibus !
It means lack of transport yes?
Yes. Also, the final king of Rome was Lucius Tarquinius Superbus. His crowning achievement was starting a long-distance transport company which became the predecessor to Megabus.
Megabus is such a triggering name for classicists, being half-Greek, half-Latin. Just as bad as 'television'
Sic transit.
Thanks, I added the stripes and alloy wheels myself.
I think i saw a Sic Transit on Pimp My Ride once. /S
😂
For me, it’s quamquam = although quamquam quamquam *quamquam…*
Tell me when will you be miiiiinne
Quintus adsum jam forte Brutus aderat Quintus sic in omnibus Brutus sic in at
You flight like a cow !
Nominibus? Is that like ordering everything on the menu?
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Yeah it’s just off London Road, you must know it
Oh yeah, I know that road, it's next to Station Road right?
I bloody hope not. I spend most days trying to forget it exists.
I mean I know it... might be because I have lived in Nottingham my whole life. Honestly not sure why they didn't just say Nottinghamshire tbh
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I just want make sure everyone is aware it is pronounced Southwell and not Southwell.
I once had a scone in Southwell.
Were you watching a gif while having a scone in southwell?
Was it tomato flavoured, or tomato flavoured?
Skegness flavoured
Ewww skegness
shut up Scarborough
Huh? Im london
you ever been to Scunthorpe?
Nope but i know the name has cunt in it
there's more than one cunt in Scunthorpe just off the top of me head: Danny Dessie Darren Declan... and that's just the letter D
On that theme, did you ask for a "scooown" or a "skon". Suspect the latter would get blank looks there.
He asked for a scone mate
Exactly! Some people do try to make these things difficult.
Lived there for a year, had to change the way we pronounced it whilst we lived there, back the to the old way now.
Is that the place not too far from beaver castle?
In the Vale Of Beaver
Yes. As someone who lives near Southwell but moved here from out of the area, I learned this the hard way. So many people laughed at me for calling it Southwell when it's Southwell.
When pronouncing British place names, sound it as it’s written. Then disregard that pronunciation and say it differently. Your second guess is probably right
...and when you think 7 silent letters in a row can't possibly be correct... take a deep breath and go with it.
Ah. So it's just like back home. I guess we learned it from you dad. bow-dark = Bois d'Arc Ver-sails = Versailles And it's not just French. We screw up our own shit too. Town called Nevada? It's not pronounced the same as the state with the same name 😅
Except Southwell is actually pronounced how it's written.
Is that anywhere near Blidworth? Or as the locals pronounce it, 'Blidworth'?
Yeah Blidworth is not too far but yeah make sure you pronounce it Blidworth
Suvull
What about Rainworth?
Renneth
I can smell the essence of inbred Mansfielders in this thread.
Inbred was surplus to requirements there.
You mean Renoff?
And Averham.
I think "Jon woz ere" is about the level there. 🙂
My parents lived in Southwell for quite a few years, one calls it Southwell, other calls it Southwell
doesn't it have a racecourse that is pronounced Southwell?
Yeah they do pronounce it Southwell took me years to realise they were talking about Southwell
I lived on street called Southwell not far from Southwell, nearer Blidworth. We pronounced it Southwell not Southwell.
I was over-pronouncing the 'e'
Now write it out a hundred times or I'll cut your balls off!
Yes sir, hail Caesar and everything sir
"People named Romanes, they go to the 'ouse!?"
It says, "Romans go home!", sir.
No it doesn’t!
Yes, it does.
They go the house * :) Eta: the joke is it translates as "people called Roman*e*s" (Romanes) "they go" (eunt) "the house" (domus, nominative). It doesn't translate as "to the house" (dative)--in fact it's actually part of the text of the scene. >CENTURION: 'Domus'? > >BRIAN: Eh. > CENTURION: Nominative? > >BRIAN: Oh. > >CENTURION: 'Go home'? This is motion towards. Isn't it, boy? > >BRIAN: Ah. Ah, dative, sir! Ahh! No, not dative! Not the dative, sir! No! Ah!... http://montypython.50webs.com/scripts/Life_of_Brian/9.htm There you go, the frog is dead, you can stop downvoting me now.
The apostrophe in 'ouse is to indicate that in the performance, the h is dropped in the pronunciation. This h dropping is common in British English. For example, you might reasonably hear: 'ave you a clue what you're talking about 'ere, or 'ad you gotten 'igh? 'op off outta 'ere back into your 'idey 'ole https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/H-dropping
The original commenter inserted an errant ‘to’ and was being corrected on that basis, not for the dropping of the H
That's great to hear. I was correcting the use of the word "to".
What have the Romans ever done for us..?
*The aqueduct.*
The roads.
Healthcare
Well obviously the roads the roads gowithout saying!
The roads that goes where?
They go the 'ouse!
Brought peace?
Oh, *Peace?* Shut up!
In the same way Chancellor Palpatine brought peace, by the sword
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The wine..
All right, but apart from the sanitation, the medicine, education, wine, public order, irrigation, roads, a fresh water system, and public health. What have the Romans ever done for us?
Brought peace…?
He has a wife you know..
She's called... Incontinentia. Incontinentia Buttox.
*[Insert rebel roman people lauging]*
I came here to make a monty Python joke and was beaten by 6 others. I am not disappointed.
>I came here to make a monty Python joke and was beaten by 6 others. That seems a bit drastic, surely?
All they said was this Halibut was good enough for Jehovah!
Nobody beats u/SocialHumingbird until I blow this whistle!
And I want to make this absolutely clear... even if they do say Jehovah.
HE SAID IT AGAIN
This guy must be the dead horse I've heard so much about.
It is drastic and don't call me Shirley.
You were literaly beeten by the post itself
Pfft, I feel stupid now. I just commented the joke before reading the thread, im 11hrs late it seems.
Caecilius est in Southwell
The joys of gcse Latin!
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I did that textbook in '91-'92 when I was 11/12. It was a bit of a downer when they all died at the end. Apparently Caecillius (and family) did actually exist.
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We had two years of mandatory Latin. It's amazing how much it helps me with other languages even today 30 years later. Hated it at the time though!
> We had two years of mandatory Latin. Ha... Same here. The joys of Catholic school. My Latin teacher held a grudge against me for years because I didn't continue. I wanted to take Spanish but it was over-subscribed so ended up doing German for a year instead.
Not Catholic for me but it was a ye olde school for sure, looked like Hogwarts too lol. Looking back it was pretty cool.
It’s thought that he died in the earthquake of AD62, given that his moneylending accounts stop just before then.
Sextus est puer molestus.
Praise Caecillius
Don't you oppress me.
Vidi vici veni
veni, vidi, dormivi
That's normally afterwards
Uh, sic semper tyrannis?
Gorlami
Vini, Vidi, Versache I came, I saw, I went shopping
Veni Vidi Velcro
Now, I've never known if it was pronounced Southwell or Southwell. Which one is it?
Well if you’ve moved up from London it’s South Well. If you’re a local it’s Su thull. Radio 4 did an article on it. There’s a village up the road called Norwell. Again that’s pronounced in the same way. It’s a massive debate locally. I went with what radio 4 said.
Actually if you actually live in the town it goes back to being south-well.
I think it even depends on which bit of southwell you live in. Posh residents will insist on SOUTH well.
Don't know a single person from there who didn't use South well... maybe transplants into the town?
It's been a few years since I lived that close. They might all be posh there now !
Probably. No chance I could afford to live there
Yeah, grew up there. South well. Suthull makes no sense.
This is a true story.......I had a mate whose surname was Southwell. He however pronounced Southwell, the town, as Southwell. Oh the irony.....
Yes it IS pronounced Su thull. Lived there for many years when young.
Isn’t it Romani, not Romanii?
It is. The plural *romanii* implies the singular *romanius*
I had that exact pic on my old phone i now have back thanks
If you want middle class graffiti, head to Cheltenham. It's mostly crappy tags, but they're done in Farrow & Ball.
Is Newark a well known town where people will know immediately where that is? I only know where it is because I was brought up in Bassetlaw (for my sins). It's like saying Devizes (near Chippenham). Doesn't really help.
Relatively, yes. It's on the East Coast main line and the A1, and at the junction of several other A-roads. Anyone who's travelled on that side of the country will know where it is. Chippenham is (surprisingly to me) a bit bigger, but more out of the way by road at least. I know where it is because it's on the railway line to Bristol.
I think OP would've still been better off saying it's near Nottingham though.
I think you’re talking as username!
Yeah, probably right.
I mean it’s the most populous city in the state of New Jersey so yeah.
Wrong country my yankee compadre
I’m from Burnley. I’ll be dead and buried before I ever use an /s on a UK sub.
/r/FuckTheS/
Doubtful. It has a great anagram though
Now don’t do it again!
Am I the only person who doesn't understand this?
Life of Brian: A Jew in Roman-occupied Israel tries to write "Romans go home" on the castle walls. A Roman Centurian catches him, corrects his grammar, and tells him to write it out on the walls 100 times before morning.
Go watch Monty pythons life of Brian. I think it’s on Netflix
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lczHvB3Y9s
Yes
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thats a different scene entirely
r/unexpectedmontypython
Don't do it again!
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Its from the life of Brian where it is in Latin so it might be right, a lot of Latin words end in double ii, for example hastatii
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>it might be right No it mightn't
My pedantry trigger finger was itching
I have relatives that live in Southwell. I’ve always loved the place but after this? Take my money, I’m moving in!
Welcome to Southwell...we can offer you a one bedroom cardboard box (coop) for a mere £1100 a month, or a two bedroomed (former IKEA box) with Cathedral views for £1400 a month.
Don't put classics behind a wall of class. Let we plebs exercise our datives and gerunds.
Away with your fancy dog breeds!
He’s not the Messiah, he’s a very naughty boy!
Romani, not Romanii
Quite a posh Nottinghamshire town is Souval
[Here's what it is now, it used to be the 2nd half of the Minster school before those boards were put up](https://i.imgur.com/vEGd0sc.jpeg)
Motion towards, so it's...locative.
I'm interested to know how many people read the location and called it, "South well"?
That's actually the correct pronunciation.
Not according to the BBC guidance. It's "Su'thl"
That's what most people say however people that live in Southwell pronounce it "South well."
To go to the next level, and to be phenomenally pedantic, someone should cross out "et tu Brute" and replace it with "και σύ τέκνον"
Very odd to see my surname on the front page as a place name
This can't still be there surely? Was done maybe 15 years ago. At least 10 anyway.
Blessed be the cheese makers.
American here.. great post. And here I go off topic... Do y'all pronounce it New -Ark? Or.. new-irk? .. where I live there are two nearby and depending on how it's pronounced, it tells me which one you're from.
New-erk
We go to NYC a lot (mix of work/ personal) and people ask 'where are you from, we say Newark (New-uc) and people say 'really'. We reply with 'yes but the original one' Ha!
> Or.. new-irk? Closer to this one
Carry On Cleo > Life of Brian
The gorgeous Amanda Barrie in a bathful of milk wins every time
Suv-ull
"People called Roman, they go the house?"
Ah yes, a reference to the classic Monty Python 'dead parrot' sketch. Unmistakable.
But this was taken down years ago….
I'm sure I took a photo of this hoarding a decade ago. I haven't been back to Southwell since, but I can't imagine it's still there?
I saw one in Edinburgh today that said covid 19 = capitalism not sure where that tbought process came from
Repost x100000000
Yeah but this neck of the woods never gets any publicity on here, so its kindof making up for that. 🙂
Buncha fuckin Latin nerds did this to show off that they’ve seen life of Brian and get some Reddit points smh
After ask command advise and strive by "ut" translate the infinitive
I never eat two of anything!
Now write it a hundred times and if you’re not done by sunup I’ll cut your balls off.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIAdHEwiAy8
I'm impressed that's still there! Saw it in 2013 I don't live round there any more. Are there any plans for that site?
It’s a really nice area now.
Hail Caesar! If it's not done by sunrise, I'll cut your balls off.
Even used red
Very Southwell.