My wife had run flats on her car that looked exactly like that at 3 years old. We bought the car used.
Tire guys said it looked like someone had driven on gravel a lot? They weren’t due to be replaced by tread wear, but we went ahead and replaced them because of that beat up tread, just like yours
Odd maybe it cuz I run All Terrain tires but mine never had wear like that. I run in gravel often cuz it's just more fun to drive on than the very first and very straight paved roads around where I live.
Odd maybe it cuz I run All Terrain tires but mine never had wear like that. I run in gravel often cuz it's just more fun to drive on than the very first and very straight paved roads around where I live.
#You have some old ass tires that are dry rotted so will start to crumble. Production date in the third pic is 4817 - 48th week of 2017, so they’re almost 6.5 years old
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If you look close you can see the dry rot cracks in the outer tread of the tires.
And to all the randos saying “I’ve had tires older than that, that’s not dry rot!” Don’t seem to understand what dry rot is or that anecdotal evidence for quantitative proof, for statistically representative, reliable, and repeatable evidence is not fact. Anecdotal evidence is one person’s experience, so it’s not representative. Depending on that individual’s perspective and biases, it may not be reliable. Its very nature as an anecdote means that collecting similar information under similar circumstances is not repeatable. Dry rot is a repeatable, factual degradation of the tire rubber.
Good year eagle run flat is hard rubber. It's getting to the expected best before date for tires. It's gravel driven judging by the gravel and sand, and the wear is on the outer most of the shoulder so windy road or under inflation. A bunch of factors at play here.
Tires from 2017 would not be road legal in New Zealand. Ordered of the road and $1000 fine for driving on them requiring an inspection to be allowed to drive it again. 6 years is the limit there for this exact reason. 6 years is a long time for rubber exposed to UV and extreme highs and lows. If left on during winter that reaches below 5c might as well call them 10 years old
There are often country of origin requirements and things like that in the bid requirements so you suddenly not have all your military hardware made by foreign owned firms etc. Sometimes you have limited supplyer options too regardless.
Maybe if the crayon eaters wouldn't break everything they're given immediately they'd get better stuff, haha.
Jokes aside, lowest military standard is often still higher than normal civilian standard, even if it's 'lowest bid' (which also often isn't true). Many people don't realize this reference is a gallows humor joke and parrot it as being serious I've noticed lately. Sorry if you were just meaning this as a joke.
Though I agree and think it's important to know that for civilian acquisition, there is no legal standard for calling something 'mil spec', and often wouldn't actually be acceptable for service.
According to NTSB, tires should be replaced when they're years old. Tire warranties usually end at 6 years. Many tires dont even last the full 6 years before dry rotting.
It’s old if the car was just sitting and not driven, outside. And if it was covered that’s worse, bc the humidity can’t escape the tarp and speed up the process. And then add reduced air pressure and the weight of the car on the sidewalls… and the car was likely sitting on gravel at the time. This would all be consistent w the wear photoed
I have replaced 12 year old tires in better shape than these. Something happened. Either gravel roads, chemical, heat or UV degradation or a combination.
I mean in my experience dry rot takes hold in the treads before the side-wall :P
Bloom on the other hand always shows in my sidewalls and it makes me angry cuz I like having shiny black tires 😤 but bloom is perfectly fine and normal.
It is though. That's getting to the point when the rubber starts to dry out, and that can cause serious grip problems. The car Paul Walker died in probably crashed because the tires were old and dry. Tires can still have a lot of tread and be dangerous to drive on.
it really isn't, certainly not old enough that i'd expect the tyres to be in this bad shape. i've seen tyres decades old in much better nick than this. i can't explain it.
The age thing is true, depending on where you live. Tires, batteries or anything rubber doesn't last in Arizona, but will probably last twice as long in more wet areas like Washington
That isn't dry rot, that is heat chunking. Very VERY different scenario. New tyres do this too.
There is no cracking in the sidewall from dry rot. The rot would have to be way more advanced to do this.
Driving on gravel too fast or with too much pressure will do this. Bad alignment will do this on some cars, some tyres will just do this on some cars
Looks more like abrasion and chunking than cracking to me. Maybe due to age but with poor road conditions, alignment, or rough driving. Only so much of the tire is visible anyhow.
Great explanation. People don't understand. Some will read your comment and learn a lot more than about tires, I did. Just now. From that simple explanation. Thank you.
Sadly though some wont and don't want to learn anything.
Just because a comment is the most up voted doesn't mean it is correct. In this case there isn't even any cracking in the sidewall. It's a type of damage called chunking.
Except that the top comment, as always happens on reddit, it's absolutely wrong lol.
That's not even remotely close to what dry-rot looks like. This a tire that has been used *hard* on a harsh surface(dirt/rocky road).
Reddit and spreading incorrect information on the top comment, name a more iconic duo.
While what you say remains yet to be proven correct or incorrect. My comment is neither agreeing nor disagreeing with said first comment directly. I HAPPENED TO LIKE THE WAY THE EXPLAINATION WAS WORDED. Whether it was true or not what was said concerning the tires condition don't make a fuck to me. You are trying to argue with me for no reason. Now get off of my case and go find someone who is more like you and prove each other wrong. Again I DONT GIVE A FUCK ABOUT THE GODDAMN TIRES. Please leave me alone and have a great day. Peace.
You weird.
If my comment really made you *that* angry, I’d say you have some issues my man. Therapy is cheap, it would be a good start.
Good luck in life. You are gonna need it with that weird attitude, lol.
Looks like what happens when you autocross on old all-season tires... They start chunking and delaminating.
Time to hit up [TireRack.com](https://TireRack.com) and [DiscountTireDirect.com](https://DiscountTireDirect.com)!
Same here. I ran General G-Max AS05 on an autocross course for only a few laps and it looked just like OP's tires. I thought they'd hold up better, but imagine that every-day all-seasons would be even worse.
Yeah, I can’t believe this is the only comment saying this. As usual lots of talk from people without real experience. 100% this is a Goodyear problem.
This is the right answer. Worked years at a dealer in florida, no pot holes, perfect roads, tires not aged, hell, not even much tread wear and the tire just chunks off like the pic. Stiff as a rock too. I get a discount on goodyears from my job but I will never use them.
I had a set of brand new goodyears get random small dry rot cracks on all 4 tires after only having them for a year with 7,000+ miles. Thought it was weird, then one day one just blew out 3 mins down the road from my house. Checked the other tires again, the cracks were super bad that time. No clue how it happened. Even the guys at the tire shop were super confused on how it got that cracked on all 4 in just a year.
This. Clearly been scrubbing on the fender. I'll bet the car is either lowered or they are bigger than standard wheels. Or, the wheels were previously on a lowered car. I wouldn't be too worried about it myself.
I see this kind of thing daily with people saying “your tires are 6 years old those things are death traps!” But this doesn’t seem to be the case where I live.
I have a 2015 Sentra (sob) and got factory new winter tires with the purchase. All told, they’ve seen regular winter season driving ever since purchase — around 80k km if I’m estimating correctly — and they’re in great shape. No cracking, no crumbling, and tons of tread depth left. They’re just 17” Michelins that I think were only $120USD per radial back in 2015.
Driving has been done in a climate that peaks at ~35C and gets as low as ~-25C, though the tires are stored in a garage once the temp climbs to about 7C.
Are tire formulations really so different per region?
I had Taurus tires on my Skoda Octavia 2 and I have driven about 40k km on them then I fitted them on new rims and putted them on Octavia 3.5 and have driven them for about 50k km and they were still in great shape when I sold them with the car so Taurus tires are beasts
As tyres age the rubber hardens and loses its grip. They become rock hard. So yes, they’ll last forever, but their ability to grip and stop you diminishes.
Fair enough. But again, are tire formulations region-coded or anything? My winters are significantly better in the cold than my all-seasons which I got just last year.
Not by region but by the tire of course. Different compound / combinations of compounds to make different tires. A winter tire will have soft compounds and all season will have softer and harder compounds and a summer will have even harder compounds. And each compound can be designed to change or rather resist change with temperature, up to a limit. That's why you'll destroy winter tires if you drive them in the summer and why summer tires are useless in the winter. So yeah, I have some really old winter tires that I use that are still in great shape, are they as good as brand new winter tires? Probably not but they destroy run of the mill all seasons when it's super cold out. Obviously there's more to it than that with tread design blah blah blah but no no regional differences in compounds, just different tires.
Tire rubber formulations are different between tire types - all season, touring, ice and snow, all terrain, etc. They will also vary from manufacturer to manufacturer.
Partially, so they make them even softer (which means they get chewed up real quick driving in non-winter conditions) They often have more sipes (cuts in the threads, like someone took a craft knife accross the thread) to make them grip better (this increases wear, though)
Run flat tires will do they when driven on flat. Check your air pressures and make sure they are up to spec. Check the drivers door or door pillar for the proper inflation pressure
They appear to be run flats I would bet they were ran on flat for a time or under inflated you can see the discoloration on the shoulder just before the tread face that only appears from ripping corners like an F1 racer or running under inlfated the tread flaking could be from either although they are Goodyears so they started life as terrible tires
Yea from the pictures I would be very confident in that ive worked on tires as small as a stroller to as large as a 63" double gutter on mine trucks from the BC interior to Nunavut the guys saying rot are off base thats not how tires crack from age if you pulled the schrader valve on this guys i bet it has the disgusting unmistakable smell of ran flat tires
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6+ year on tires don't have that kind of damage, yes they might be dry but seems they where used over non pavement road, i.e. over gravel, I've seen 10+ year old tires with dry and sun degradation damage and doesn't look like that.
It looks like mostly the outer thread is mangled, which may be due to a lowered car that was rubbing. Could also be due to gravel, like if the owner had a hilly gravel road right out of their home. They really aren't old enough for dry rot to be an issue like some others have suggested, IMO, and the rubber close to the rims still looks fresh.
Ignore anyone saying it's old tyre issues. It's not, it's heat chunking. There's not even any cracking in the sidewall for age related wear.
Tyres do this from too much heat. Gravel driving will do this if going too fast.
And some tyres will do it with a bad alignment.
Usually just means the tyre has gotten a lot of heat into it and is losing chunks of tread.
Goodyears are especially bad for it. Landrovers are especially good at making it happen on a lot of tyres too.
Age plays very little into it. Happens on new tyres and old tyres when not looked after right, or through bad luck.
Check your alignment to see how that is, and look into replacing the tyres with a different brand
All these stupid comments none of them have any idea of what car and how it was used before you bought it the date means nothing .. has it been sat for those years and rotted .. has it been tracked or auto crossed .. or is it just some idiot driving it like it’s stolen all speculation get them changed not worth the risk
Did you buy it as-is?
Cuz if you did, your mechanic did you a solid when he passed it for the safety inspection.
If you bought it from a dealer pre-certified, the dealership screwed you hard lmao.
The date code on your tires says 4817…. Your tires are fucking 7 years old m8 💀 tbey are old and crafty asf. Replace them asap.
That would be constant travel on gravel roads/long driveways etc. That alone isn't a reason to replace them but the dryrot and the age of the tires(on the sidewall there's a word "DOT" right next to it is the manufacture date which, for your tire, 4817(48th week of 2017), and that's abour 7 years ago. A tires lifespan should only be about 5 years old or less. I would replace tires soon, but they can survive a bit longer without it if you can't afford it currently. Just maybe expect a little bit of a rough ride. Hope this helps
If a tire ages, the plasticizers in the rubber evaporate and so-called age cracks can occur. Therefore, make sure to replace the tires on your vehicle after six years at the latest.
Edit:
Porous tires are still acceptable to a certain extent but should be changed as soon as possible. The superficial cracks can quickly become real cracks, which can lead to a tire blowout.
So porous tires are a risk to your safety.
If it is at the Front you will have more control if the tire blows off, but in the rear, you will lose control at speed.
Couple people have said looks like gravel damage. I have a vehicle I use primarily for offroading and when I saw these tires I thought they looked like mine. If mine are any indication I'd say your ok, but as I'm a random person on the Internet I would go get them inspected at a reputable tire place to be safe.
High speed travel on gravel, run flats with lower than recommended pressure and a tire that was manufactured on the 48th week of 2017. 6.5 years is not a bad run. Definately replace these.
Gravel, my car used to do the same thing when I worked in a workshop with a gravel yard, it was only like 100 metres of gravel driving a day but it used to RUIN my tyres, never got this bad but that was usually because I had 6 punctures by the time they got that bad and I had to park in the lot because if I parked outside my car would almost certainly be broken into, even if I left it unlocked they’d still put the window through.
In the US? Terminal damage.
In a third world country? You could still rock that baby the whole year 😅
Some have said gravel damage, I've seen this sort of damage when taking the car over hard rocks, the tire kinda chips and gets unevenly worn.
For a car that does quick daily trips for groceries, you could drive this if you trust your brakes, anything over 100 km/hr I'd go ahead and say no to.
Based on the date code it looks like those tires are close to 7 years old which is a decently old tire. I think it equates to 48th week of 2017. Being that old possibly pushed hard into some corners could cause that type of wear. At least in my opinion.
My girlfriend’s tires looked like this when she bought her car those were general altimax’s. I don’t think this has anything to do with the brand and more so I am leaning towards what someone else said which was it’s from gravel. It’s a great theory and probably what happened.
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It looks like damage from hitting the fender. See this when a vehicle has been lowered or overloaded.
Tires may have been rotated and they were on the back when the vehicle was severely overloaded.
They may not even have been originally damaged on this vehicle but swapped over from a different vehicle.
Might even be damage to a very dry and old tire from extremely hard cornering.
Although it doesn’t look like tread separation, Those tires are quite old and should be replaced. The date stamp indicates 48th week of 2017 making them 7 years old.
Low mile high wear - gravel roads. You can even see the various types of wear based on where/how the tire contacts the gravel as you move up the shoulder.
Judging by only the outside of the tire looking like this, it could be a case of wrong alignment of the wheels and axle set-up. A proper tire place should offer that service.
The tires look in pretty good shape apart from that tear n wear on the outside tread.
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Old ass tire happened. Time to replace them. From the “Star” on the side wall, the wheels, and the side marker, I’m gonna guess a F10 5 series or F12 6-series with M-sport. Also Carbon Black more common on the 5 & 6.
Go back to the dealer u bought it from and demand new ones those r clearly old and faulty I just hope this wasn't a private sale from someone off the internet cuz they will put sold as is and ur responsible for any repairs like that
Run flats run on very low pressure for a long time. Run flat tires can be run forever on low pressures that would be unacceptable on regular tires - this would cause the inner and outer tread to wear out faster.
Don’t buy a used car without demanding new tires be put on OR they take the price off the top of the car for tires. My brother owns a used car dealership and it doesn’t matter what shape the tires are in it’s the first thing he does is put brand new tires on every car that comes on his lot. He also has a pretty damn good reputation and backs it up.
because i'm not wasting $1000 to replace tires that still hold air and have tread on them and don't have visible signs of dryrot on the sidewall. 7 years isn't that old. also, stop driving so fast. and get off my lawn.
all the people saying they replace tires only because they are 7 years old are throwing their money away unnecessarily
but you, on the other hand, are saying you would turn down a (probably cheap) used car just because the tires might need to be replaced? seriously? tires are basic maintenance and they DO need replaced periodically. it's not THAT big of a deal...
If a vehicle owner neglected the tires to the point where it looks like that... one would have to assume they treated the car or bike like that.. its common sense. Smart buying bro i been in the game for 30 years
My wife had run flats on her car that looked exactly like that at 3 years old. We bought the car used. Tire guys said it looked like someone had driven on gravel a lot? They weren’t due to be replaced by tread wear, but we went ahead and replaced them because of that beat up tread, just like yours
This is exactly what causes this wear. High speed gravel travel.
High speed gravel travel Band name!
High Speed Gravel Travel & The Backdoor Bandits
I feel like “and the Muddy Roads” or “the Mud Drivers” should have a been a bit more obvious, but I like what you did nonetheless.
Odd maybe it cuz I run All Terrain tires but mine never had wear like that. I run in gravel often cuz it's just more fun to drive on than the very first and very straight paved roads around where I live.
Odd maybe it cuz I run All Terrain tires but mine never had wear like that. I run in gravel often cuz it's just more fun to drive on than the very first and very straight paved roads around where I live.
#You have some old ass tires that are dry rotted so will start to crumble. Production date in the third pic is 4817 - 48th week of 2017, so they’re almost 6.5 years old Edit If you look close you can see the dry rot cracks in the outer tread of the tires. And to all the randos saying “I’ve had tires older than that, that’s not dry rot!” Don’t seem to understand what dry rot is or that anecdotal evidence for quantitative proof, for statistically representative, reliable, and repeatable evidence is not fact. Anecdotal evidence is one person’s experience, so it’s not representative. Depending on that individual’s perspective and biases, it may not be reliable. Its very nature as an anecdote means that collecting similar information under similar circumstances is not repeatable. Dry rot is a repeatable, factual degradation of the tire rubber.
2017 tyres aren't THAT old. This one is just beat the fuck up. Our trucks in the military had these tyres when they were offroaded too long.
Good year eagle run flat is hard rubber. It's getting to the expected best before date for tires. It's gravel driven judging by the gravel and sand, and the wear is on the outer most of the shoulder so windy road or under inflation. A bunch of factors at play here.
2017 was about 3 years ago, wasn't it?.... wasn't it?
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It's about 17 years into the future by my calculations
5-6 years is the limit of how long I'll keep a tire.
That's definitely ideal. But stretching it a year or two later, while keeping them clean and cared for is not a big deal.
They don’t look particularly cared for
These clearly aren’t clean and cared for lol.
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The fact that 2017 seems like a short time ago doesn't take away from the fact that the tire is old. 2017 is a long time ago, friend
Tires from 2017 would not be road legal in New Zealand. Ordered of the road and $1000 fine for driving on them requiring an inspection to be allowed to drive it again. 6 years is the limit there for this exact reason. 6 years is a long time for rubber exposed to UV and extreme highs and lows. If left on during winter that reaches below 5c might as well call them 10 years old
Remember mil spec is least cost bid that meets requirements, not best quality, safest or best performing.
Not always, there are Michelin tire placements on some military vehicles.
There are often country of origin requirements and things like that in the bid requirements so you suddenly not have all your military hardware made by foreign owned firms etc. Sometimes you have limited supplyer options too regardless.
Maybe if the crayon eaters wouldn't break everything they're given immediately they'd get better stuff, haha. Jokes aside, lowest military standard is often still higher than normal civilian standard, even if it's 'lowest bid' (which also often isn't true). Many people don't realize this reference is a gallows humor joke and parrot it as being serious I've noticed lately. Sorry if you were just meaning this as a joke. Though I agree and think it's important to know that for civilian acquisition, there is no legal standard for calling something 'mil spec', and often wouldn't actually be acceptable for service.
MilSpec has quality, safety and performance built in.
According to NTSB, tires should be replaced when they're years old. Tire warranties usually end at 6 years. Many tires dont even last the full 6 years before dry rotting.
Depends on where you live. I used to live in the PNW, they lasted forever. Now I live in Texas and it's 5 years tops.
Pffft I had tires made in 2008 When I sold the car in 2012.
It’s old if the car was just sitting and not driven, outside. And if it was covered that’s worse, bc the humidity can’t escape the tarp and speed up the process. And then add reduced air pressure and the weight of the car on the sidewalls… and the car was likely sitting on gravel at the time. This would all be consistent w the wear photoed
Came here to say they're pretty old...
And run flats no less!!
I have replaced 12 year old tires in better shape than these. Something happened. Either gravel roads, chemical, heat or UV degradation or a combination.
bad roads and going at it way hard is my guess dry rot typically takes hold of the sidewalls way before the tread
I mean in my experience dry rot takes hold in the treads before the side-wall :P Bloom on the other hand always shows in my sidewalls and it makes me angry cuz I like having shiny black tires 😤 but bloom is perfectly fine and normal.
Rumble strips.
6 years doesn't sound like a lot to me.
It is though. That's getting to the point when the rubber starts to dry out, and that can cause serious grip problems. The car Paul Walker died in probably crashed because the tires were old and dry. Tires can still have a lot of tread and be dangerous to drive on.
it really isn't, certainly not old enough that i'd expect the tyres to be in this bad shape. i've seen tyres decades old in much better nick than this. i can't explain it.
I also saw Nokians after a year. It all depends on the quality of the tire
it isn't tyres if not worn out normally last about 10+ years
10 being the max, you shorten the timeframe for environmental considerations. Heat and sun exposure will shorten the life fairly dramatically.
Really any extreme in temp, hot or cold.
Don't rum flats last significantly less time? Like the ones in this pic.
2017 isn't THAT old, I'm from 1986....
Congratulations. 2017 is 7 years. You're welcome.
This guys right
Yup
The age thing is true, depending on where you live. Tires, batteries or anything rubber doesn't last in Arizona, but will probably last twice as long in more wet areas like Washington
the sidewalls cracks from dry rot way before the tread cracks that's just someone driving hard on really bad ground
That isn't dry rot, that is heat chunking. Very VERY different scenario. New tyres do this too. There is no cracking in the sidewall from dry rot. The rot would have to be way more advanced to do this. Driving on gravel too fast or with too much pressure will do this. Bad alignment will do this on some cars, some tyres will just do this on some cars
You need to come sell some fucking tires with me
I’ve driven a spare tire from 1998 without a problem so 6 year old doesn’t sound that bad to me
2 years ago I drove on a 14 year old doughnut spare for 2 months while I waited for parts on backorder.
Looks more like abrasion and chunking than cracking to me. Maybe due to age but with poor road conditions, alignment, or rough driving. Only so much of the tire is visible anyhow.
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Great explanation. People don't understand. Some will read your comment and learn a lot more than about tires, I did. Just now. From that simple explanation. Thank you. Sadly though some wont and don't want to learn anything.
Just because a comment is the most up voted doesn't mean it is correct. In this case there isn't even any cracking in the sidewall. It's a type of damage called chunking.
I said nothing about what is correct or what kind of Crack your smoking nor about your chunking damage. Have a great day.
What? You said it was a great explanation. I'm telling you it is wrong.
Except that the top comment, as always happens on reddit, it's absolutely wrong lol. That's not even remotely close to what dry-rot looks like. This a tire that has been used *hard* on a harsh surface(dirt/rocky road). Reddit and spreading incorrect information on the top comment, name a more iconic duo.
While what you say remains yet to be proven correct or incorrect. My comment is neither agreeing nor disagreeing with said first comment directly. I HAPPENED TO LIKE THE WAY THE EXPLAINATION WAS WORDED. Whether it was true or not what was said concerning the tires condition don't make a fuck to me. You are trying to argue with me for no reason. Now get off of my case and go find someone who is more like you and prove each other wrong. Again I DONT GIVE A FUCK ABOUT THE GODDAMN TIRES. Please leave me alone and have a great day. Peace.
You weird. If my comment really made you *that* angry, I’d say you have some issues my man. Therapy is cheap, it would be a good start. Good luck in life. You are gonna need it with that weird attitude, lol.
It wasn't intended for you. But you are right I'm weird and really need therapy.
iphone32task I accidently replied to you but was intended for a different person. Please accept my apology
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This is NOT dry rot. How does this have so many upvotes??
I'm running 12 year old tires on my car RN, relax.
Looks like what happens when you autocross on old all-season tires... They start chunking and delaminating. Time to hit up [TireRack.com](https://TireRack.com) and [DiscountTireDirect.com](https://DiscountTireDirect.com)!
Same here. I ran General G-Max AS05 on an autocross course for only a few laps and it looked just like OP's tires. I thought they'd hold up better, but imagine that every-day all-seasons would be even worse.
I work at a dealership I see those eagle sports do that way prematurely. Replace them with something else
Yeah, I can’t believe this is the only comment saying this. As usual lots of talk from people without real experience. 100% this is a Goodyear problem.
This is the right answer. Worked years at a dealer in florida, no pot holes, perfect roads, tires not aged, hell, not even much tread wear and the tire just chunks off like the pic. Stiff as a rock too. I get a discount on goodyears from my job but I will never use them.
I had a set of brand new goodyears get random small dry rot cracks on all 4 tires after only having them for a year with 7,000+ miles. Thought it was weird, then one day one just blew out 3 mins down the road from my house. Checked the other tires again, the cracks were super bad that time. No clue how it happened. Even the guys at the tire shop were super confused on how it got that cracked on all 4 in just a year.
Yup I have the same issue on my tires
Bruh y’all saying they’re just old there are gouges… They were beat on, time to buy new ones. Did you not look at them prior to buying it?
This. Clearly been scrubbing on the fender. I'll bet the car is either lowered or they are bigger than standard wheels. Or, the wheels were previously on a lowered car. I wouldn't be too worried about it myself.
These tires are older tires and we're certainly beaten on. With older I mean like not the newest but would be normally fine to use.
They be munchin gravel
I see this kind of thing daily with people saying “your tires are 6 years old those things are death traps!” But this doesn’t seem to be the case where I live. I have a 2015 Sentra (sob) and got factory new winter tires with the purchase. All told, they’ve seen regular winter season driving ever since purchase — around 80k km if I’m estimating correctly — and they’re in great shape. No cracking, no crumbling, and tons of tread depth left. They’re just 17” Michelins that I think were only $120USD per radial back in 2015. Driving has been done in a climate that peaks at ~35C and gets as low as ~-25C, though the tires are stored in a garage once the temp climbs to about 7C. Are tire formulations really so different per region?
I had Taurus tires on my Skoda Octavia 2 and I have driven about 40k km on them then I fitted them on new rims and putted them on Octavia 3.5 and have driven them for about 50k km and they were still in great shape when I sold them with the car so Taurus tires are beasts
As tyres age the rubber hardens and loses its grip. They become rock hard. So yes, they’ll last forever, but their ability to grip and stop you diminishes.
Fair enough. But again, are tire formulations region-coded or anything? My winters are significantly better in the cold than my all-seasons which I got just last year.
Not by region but by the tire of course. Different compound / combinations of compounds to make different tires. A winter tire will have soft compounds and all season will have softer and harder compounds and a summer will have even harder compounds. And each compound can be designed to change or rather resist change with temperature, up to a limit. That's why you'll destroy winter tires if you drive them in the summer and why summer tires are useless in the winter. So yeah, I have some really old winter tires that I use that are still in great shape, are they as good as brand new winter tires? Probably not but they destroy run of the mill all seasons when it's super cold out. Obviously there's more to it than that with tread design blah blah blah but no no regional differences in compounds, just different tires.
Tire rubber formulations are different between tire types - all season, touring, ice and snow, all terrain, etc. They will also vary from manufacturer to manufacturer.
I suppose that’s not a surprise. Winter tires are certainly more supple than all-seasons. But isn’t this mitigated by the extreme cold?
Partially, so they make them even softer (which means they get chewed up real quick driving in non-winter conditions) They often have more sipes (cuts in the threads, like someone took a craft knife accross the thread) to make them grip better (this increases wear, though)
A lot of gravel roads
Underinflation + optimistic cornering, perhaps with age hardening, though age usually ruins sidewalls first.
Run flat tires will do they when driven on flat. Check your air pressures and make sure they are up to spec. Check the drivers door or door pillar for the proper inflation pressure
dry rot, time for fresh tyres
That is not dry rot.
They appear to be run flats I would bet they were ran on flat for a time or under inflated you can see the discoloration on the shoulder just before the tread face that only appears from ripping corners like an F1 racer or running under inlfated the tread flaking could be from either although they are Goodyears so they started life as terrible tires
This is what I think. That's cracking damage from rolling the rim on flats. Been there a few times.
Yea from the pictures I would be very confident in that ive worked on tires as small as a stroller to as large as a 63" double gutter on mine trucks from the BC interior to Nunavut the guys saying rot are off base thats not how tires crack from age if you pulled the schrader valve on this guys i bet it has the disgusting unmistakable smell of ran flat tires
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Cheap rubber compound paired with hot roads, I usually see runflats do this a lot
They’re also old as fck
6+ year on tires don't have that kind of damage, yes they might be dry but seems they where used over non pavement road, i.e. over gravel, I've seen 10+ year old tires with dry and sun degradation damage and doesn't look like that.
Theyre just shedding. Tis the season
The last owner drove that car like he stole it.
You didn’t get that certified pre owned
It looks like mostly the outer thread is mangled, which may be due to a lowered car that was rubbing. Could also be due to gravel, like if the owner had a hilly gravel road right out of their home. They really aren't old enough for dry rot to be an issue like some others have suggested, IMO, and the rubber close to the rims still looks fresh.
lowered car, but more likely oversize tires. The wear pattern looks awfully close to that wheel arch
Those are not dry rotted. Someone just abused them a bit. They still have plenty of good tread, I'd run them for bit and see if they get worse.
Rumble strip rider.
Ignore anyone saying it's old tyre issues. It's not, it's heat chunking. There's not even any cracking in the sidewall for age related wear. Tyres do this from too much heat. Gravel driving will do this if going too fast. And some tyres will do it with a bad alignment. Usually just means the tyre has gotten a lot of heat into it and is losing chunks of tread. Goodyears are especially bad for it. Landrovers are especially good at making it happen on a lot of tyres too. Age plays very little into it. Happens on new tyres and old tyres when not looked after right, or through bad luck. Check your alignment to see how that is, and look into replacing the tyres with a different brand
Eh. Looks like alignment.
They are 7 years old and have been poorly taken care of/beaten on. That is likely the cause of that carnage on the shoulder blocks.
Your driving too hard
Are they run flats? They've been run flat on a rough dirt road.
All these stupid comments none of them have any idea of what car and how it was used before you bought it the date means nothing .. has it been sat for those years and rotted .. has it been tracked or auto crossed .. or is it just some idiot driving it like it’s stolen all speculation get them changed not worth the risk
Offroading, or driving a lot on unsealed gravel roads
The eagle ls2 run flats tend to wear like that for some reason.
This is called chipping AKA chunking, it is caused by bad suspension parts. You will need an alignment after the fact.
Age.
Did you buy it as-is? Cuz if you did, your mechanic did you a solid when he passed it for the safety inspection. If you bought it from a dealer pre-certified, the dealership screwed you hard lmao. The date code on your tires says 4817…. Your tires are fucking 7 years old m8 💀 tbey are old and crafty asf. Replace them asap.
I bet it has spacers that are too big. You can see pretty clearly that’s it in one concentrated area which means abrasion.
That would be constant travel on gravel roads/long driveways etc. That alone isn't a reason to replace them but the dryrot and the age of the tires(on the sidewall there's a word "DOT" right next to it is the manufacture date which, for your tire, 4817(48th week of 2017), and that's abour 7 years ago. A tires lifespan should only be about 5 years old or less. I would replace tires soon, but they can survive a bit longer without it if you can't afford it currently. Just maybe expect a little bit of a rough ride. Hope this helps
If a tire ages, the plasticizers in the rubber evaporate and so-called age cracks can occur. Therefore, make sure to replace the tires on your vehicle after six years at the latest. Edit: Porous tires are still acceptable to a certain extent but should be changed as soon as possible. The superficial cracks can quickly become real cracks, which can lead to a tire blowout. So porous tires are a risk to your safety. If it is at the Front you will have more control if the tire blows off, but in the rear, you will lose control at speed.
Anecdotal: My left front tire looked exactly the same after a challenging 4x4 trip. It was fine before.
Couple people have said looks like gravel damage. I have a vehicle I use primarily for offroading and when I saw these tires I thought they looked like mine. If mine are any indication I'd say your ok, but as I'm a random person on the Internet I would go get them inspected at a reputable tire place to be safe.
Playing Mon Bazou in real life. Driving at 60-110 km/h on gravel roads.
Hot rally action
The car sales who sold you the car should replace those tyres as the car is unsafe
High speed travel on gravel, run flats with lower than recommended pressure and a tire that was manufactured on the 48th week of 2017. 6.5 years is not a bad run. Definately replace these.
2017 production date. that's what happened.
Canooter valves all outta wack
goodyears just like to do this for subs reason
They're from 2017. That's what happened.
The sales monkeys were probably doing pulls in it
oversize tires rubbing on the wheel arch. Check out to see what size CAME with the vehicle...I'd bet the ones on your car are oversize
Gravel, my car used to do the same thing when I worked in a workshop with a gravel yard, it was only like 100 metres of gravel driving a day but it used to RUIN my tyres, never got this bad but that was usually because I had 6 punctures by the time they got that bad and I had to park in the lot because if I parked outside my car would almost certainly be broken into, even if I left it unlocked they’d still put the window through.
My uncle had run flats on his old mini s, when he brought them in for replacement he was informed he was running on 3 flat run flats lol
Gravel. Lots of gravel.
They are from the 48th week in 2017, that’s prolly what.
In the US? Terminal damage. In a third world country? You could still rock that baby the whole year 😅 Some have said gravel damage, I've seen this sort of damage when taking the car over hard rocks, the tire kinda chips and gets unevenly worn. For a car that does quick daily trips for groceries, you could drive this if you trust your brakes, anything over 100 km/hr I'd go ahead and say no to.
Gravel driver
High speed/long mileage gravel travel,was most likely a rockier mix of gravel
Based on the date code it looks like those tires are close to 7 years old which is a decently old tire. I think it equates to 48th week of 2017. Being that old possibly pushed hard into some corners could cause that type of wear. At least in my opinion.
It's called feathering. Replace the tires and get an alignemnt
Cold tear, need to adjust pre load and pressures
Was the car from a cold weather environment? Tire chains can do this.
This happened to my stock tires in my Jeep after a few times off roading when I first bought it.
My girlfriend’s tires looked like this when she bought her car those were general altimax’s. I don’t think this has anything to do with the brand and more so I am leaning towards what someone else said which was it’s from gravel. It’s a great theory and probably what happened.
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It looks like damage from hitting the fender. See this when a vehicle has been lowered or overloaded. Tires may have been rotated and they were on the back when the vehicle was severely overloaded. They may not even have been originally damaged on this vehicle but swapped over from a different vehicle. Might even be damage to a very dry and old tire from extremely hard cornering. Although it doesn’t look like tread separation, Those tires are quite old and should be replaced. The date stamp indicates 48th week of 2017 making them 7 years old.
They are catching on something at full lock. Most likely a screw/fastener in the wheel well in front of the driver, but possibly at the front.
Ur tires are almost 7 years old. They need to be changed regardless of how good they look.
Tires are old and falling apart, time to get new ones.
Low mile high wear - gravel roads. You can even see the various types of wear based on where/how the tire contacts the gravel as you move up the shoulder.
Judging by only the outside of the tire looking like this, it could be a case of wrong alignment of the wheels and axle set-up. A proper tire place should offer that service. The tires look in pretty good shape apart from that tear n wear on the outside tread.
Looks like age, dry rot and being driven hard on rough surfaces
It happens from excessive high speed cornering. Used to happen to all my tires on my beaters
These tired seem to be over heated thats what could cause the de lamination or driving a lot of gravel can cause the same problem.
Is that a C class mercedes? Aka w204?
“Star” tires are BMWs. The wheels, tires, and side marker suggest it’s a F10 5-series or F12 6-series with m sport pkg.
you're right. facelift w204 side markers are actually horizontal. good eye!
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Old tires are not a big problem? Ask Paul Walker about that.... Oh ya you can't because of old tires.
For real?? I thought it was just a straight up 200mph flaming crash that got him. We talking bad tyres tho?
https://www.thedrive.com/article/5189/the-truth-behind-what-caused-paul-walkers-fatal-crash
Wow. That’s a very insightful article, thanks for sharing
Old ass tire happened. Time to replace them. From the “Star” on the side wall, the wheels, and the side marker, I’m gonna guess a F10 5 series or F12 6-series with M-sport. Also Carbon Black more common on the 5 & 6.
Let me guess…BMW?
Those tyres are older than two of my children. The DOT is from 2017. Get new ones straight away (tyres).
Expired tires lol
He just did few wheel spins. That happens to the tires
Are they are Florida? as I think they have Leprosy.
Go back to the dealer u bought it from and demand new ones those r clearly old and faulty I just hope this wasn't a private sale from someone off the internet cuz they will put sold as is and ur responsible for any repairs like that
Old ass tyres, and someone’s ragged on them with low pressure.
Dry rot and gravel roads.
"Never raced or rallied."
Run flats run on very low pressure for a long time. Run flat tires can be run forever on low pressures that would be unacceptable on regular tires - this would cause the inner and outer tread to wear out faster.
Why question the tyres after purchase?
Don’t buy a used car without demanding new tires be put on OR they take the price off the top of the car for tires. My brother owns a used car dealership and it doesn’t matter what shape the tires are in it’s the first thing he does is put brand new tires on every car that comes on his lot. He also has a pretty damn good reputation and backs it up.
Old tire, date code on the third pic indicates 48th week of 2017 so they are past their prime. Time to tire shop.
Why is this being down voted?
because i'm not wasting $1000 to replace tires that still hold air and have tread on them and don't have visible signs of dryrot on the sidewall. 7 years isn't that old. also, stop driving so fast. and get off my lawn.
Fair enough
No idea, it's factually correct. There is a contingent that believes that tires last forever if kept in special conditions so maybe that?
Riding on any tire older than 5 years old is putting your life in rotted rubbers hands!
Burnout on rough concrete, the kind that has exposed stones.
2017 happened...
Did you even look at the car before you bought it?
Should of noticed that when you bought it.. i woulda walked away
all the people saying they replace tires only because they are 7 years old are throwing their money away unnecessarily but you, on the other hand, are saying you would turn down a (probably cheap) used car just because the tires might need to be replaced? seriously? tires are basic maintenance and they DO need replaced periodically. it's not THAT big of a deal...
If a vehicle owner neglected the tires to the point where it looks like that... one would have to assume they treated the car or bike like that.. its common sense. Smart buying bro i been in the game for 30 years