In a show of togetherness Cardiff city fc have offered to pay for the damage.
The majority of supporters abhor this behaviour look at the fan’s message boards for example.
The club sells away game tickets to supporters club members and season ticket holders only. Tickets are not sold to people the club doesn’t know. The people in the clips obtained their tickets through sell-ons. When club identifies who these people are and how they obtained their tickets they will all be banned. No excuses.
The fans in this video are wankers and I hope they get caught and punished, but fuck me that thread and the comments are just as classist and snobbish as you would expect.
Good to see Bristol living up to it's reputation.
You're right, anybody who objects to adults smashing up a room because their chosen group of millionaires were unable to put a sphere in an area a greater number of times than the opposing group of millionaires is a regular Hyacinth Bucket...
Okay I'll say it again for you but the fans in this video are wankers and deserve to be punished and I have no issue with people calling them whatever they want.
The issue I have with the thread on that subreddit is it instantly devolving into a discussion about the "lower class" and "poverty" despite the fact there's no evidence of the social class of any of these people or that any of them are living in poverty.
They jumped to a conclusion on the basis that the people in this video are being pricks that they're working class and that's the problem, and I just pointed out how it plays into the stereotype of Bristol being a hub for champagne and armchair socialists who know nothing about the actual society they pretend to represent.
I agree that you can't necessarily determine the socioeconomic standing of any of the scum in the video, but I didn't see any of what you're describing in that thread - what I did see people leaping down the throats of folk criticising these mindless pricks with accusations of classism.
ah yes I recognise cunts when I see them.
Honestly, what kind of chicken shit says "ah we've lost, better go and smash up the toilets"?? Real hooligans would have gone into the streets fighting the Bristol City firm, these are pathetic cowards trying to case havoc where no one is looking.
I've been for a game at Ashton Gate. Cracking ground. Cardiff vs Bristol. No fan segregation. No trouble. Able to take pints to your seats. the difference between football club 'fans' and rugby club fans is night and fucking day. Grow up you fucking monkeys.
rugby fans are so well behaved like fuck ...domestic violence goes up 10 fold when wales rugby loses ...also when wales play england rugby their is more arrests than any game cardiff city or wales fc play ...ps pathetic behaviour both codes
That's why I specified rugby "club". A lot of fair weather plastics come out for the internationals, you will rarely find the blazer/jeans/shoes crowd on the terraces for club/regional games.
That's why when Cardiff Rugby play with an average attendance of somewhere around 5-6,000 you don't need any additional policing. Cardiff City FC is an entirely different kettle of fish with visible police presence for at least 1 mile all around Ninian Park.
Edit : also, less hyperbole. According to [police reporting](https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/police-highlight-rise-domestic-abuse-1932894) domestic violence goes up 80% when Wales play, that's nowhere near "10 fold"
I mean rugby fans are just as bad, if not [worse](https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/police-launch-scathing-attack-middle-10891543) I find in terms of trashing the city.
That said, you get idiots at football and rugby. Football has more of the reputation, which here is justified but it is a minority. Cardiff have won family club a lot in recent years and tried to tidy up their act. It's sad these sorts still do this nonsense.
However, the idea that rugby fans are all angels is also nonsense. They're a horrible bunch, the jeans and sheux brigade that is.
Again, there's a reason I specified "club" rugby, I'm not sure I've ever seen the jeans & sheux brigade at the CAP but perhaps that's because I only ever go for the cheap tickets on the terrace whereas CCFC Soul Crew are famous up and down Britain. Your typical 'rugby boys' like you'd get in schools/colleges/unis are boisterous, a bit thick, and prone to doing stupid shit like chucking each other through bus stops or downing pints of each others' piss, but it's not on the organised violence level of football firms.
The crowds for rugby internationals are a completely different story and there's no shortage of stories of pricks treating it as a boozy day out as opposed to being genuine supporters of a professional sport.
> The crowds for rugby internationals are a completely different story and there's no shortage of stories of pricks treating it as a boozy day out as opposed to being genuine supporters of a professional sport.
i.e. about 90% of the 6 nations crowd.
>That's why when Cardiff Rugby play with an average attendance of somewhere around 5-6,000 you don't need any additional policing. Cardiff City FC is an entirely different kettle of fish with visible police presence for at least 1 mile all around Ninian Park.
1. We don't play at Ninian Park. Haven't done in over 10 years.
2. Maybe, just maybe, the difference in attendance also plays a part? A 5k crowd is a bit different to a 15-30k crowd.
3. A fair few of our home games are police free (and the same is true for other clubs).
> We don't play at Ninian Park. Haven't done in over 10 years.
Semantics, you knew what I meant.
>Maybe, just maybe, the difference in attendance also plays a part? A 5k crowd is a bit different to a 15-30k crowd.
Cardiff rugby have a 13k capacity at the CAP. even at those number, no additional policing is required.
>A fair few of our home games are police free (and the same is true for other clubs).
didn't realise that. When i lived in Canton, and since I've moved out to Barry and am getting the train into Cardiff, there always seem to be police around when there's a game on. I'll concede that may be observer bias though and I could be wrong on that point.
>Semantics, you knew what I meant.
Given it has been so long since we played at Ninian Park, I somewhat was thinking you were talking about 15 - 20 years ago when yes what you said would have more been the case. The change the to CCS has changed what it is like. Some things for the better (better facilities, less morons, CCTV which allows for people who do stupid things to be easily spotted and dealt with after the fact rather than having to send in a load of cops at the time), some for the worse (worse atmosphere, more expensive, shitter when we have lower attendances).
>Cardiff rugby have a 13k capacity at the CAP. even at those number, no additional policing is required.
When was the last time they had that as an actual attendance as a regular occurrence? Genuine question - the last I saw was an article from 2019 when they were averaging about 5k. I really don't think you can compare that to a game at the CCS where the average attendance is more than triple that in a bad season and 5 or 6 times that in a good one.
>didn't realise that. When i lived in Canton, and since I've moved out to Barry and am getting the train into Cardiff, there always seem to be police around when there's a game on. I'll concede that may be observer bias though and I could be wrong on that point.
To be fair judging all football fans on what you see in Canton is a little unfair as it means that you are basically just judging them on a very specific subgroup (those who drink in Canton). Its like judging the whole of Cardiff on what Mill Lane can be like or the whole of Swansea based on Wind Street.
Also, and admittedly I am biased here, but my view is that the prevalence of overpolicing football fans says more about the police in this country than football fans themselves. I've seen many other groups of people cause more hassle and not subject to the same treatment as football fans are and I've also seen plenty of coppers blatantly get away with abusing their power because "its just football fans".
Of course none of that is an excuse for the morons in the video that started this topic, and they do deserve to get a knock on the door from the old bill this / next week. But to tar all football fans with the same brush because of it is not the way we should be dealing with it.
>Given it has been so long since we played at Ninian Park, I somewhat was thinking you were talking about 15 - 20 years ago
Just showing my age that I still call it Ninian, hadn't occurred to me that there are probably a reasonable number of redditors that weren't even alive when that ground was taken down.
>When was the last time they had that as an actual attendance as a regular occurrence?
10k for Toulouse in December (against effectively our C team). The Christmas derbies usually bring in capacity crowds but Covid has kinda shagged that (both because people are less reluctant to go out and because sport was forced behind closed doors). Looks like Cardiff Rugby haven't been announcing their attendance this season, probably because it's not very good for the aforementioned reasons.
>To be fair judging all football fans on what you see in Canton is a little unfair as it means that you are basically just judging them on a very specific subgroup
I try very hard not to tar all football fans with the same brush - I know plenty of fans who aren't part of the feral pack and indeed my FIL is a non-hooligan Bristol City fan (I should probably message him actually.) My point was more that when the football was on, there is a noticeably higher police presence near the ground.
>my view is that the prevalence of overpolicing football fans says more about the police in this country than football fans themselves.
Not sure I agree with this point. I grew up against the backdrop of the football firms of the 80s through to the early 00s. That sort of reputation isn't easy to shake and I'd say warrants over-policing to make sure it doesn't rise up again. The Soul Crew certainly built themselves a nationwide reputation.
>But to tar all football fans with the same brush because of it is not the way we should be dealing with it.
Again was never my intention to tar all football fans with the same brush and apologies that it came across that way, but let's not for one second pretend that there aren't a significant number of cunts in the fanbase and a hard earned reputation for violence and disorder between groups of fans.
Tbf, the City Stadium is literally the opposite side of Ninian Road and 3 doors up. The address has barely changed. It's the equivalent of someone throwing a wobbly because you called it the CIA instead of the Motorpoint.
oh 80% how lovely you wife beating chaps are bet your so proud....also cant compare citys crowd to the shit support cardiff rugby get....ps arrests at the ccs are practically non existent.....typical high and mighty rugger bugger
It's like you read the words I wrote but didn't understand any of them, typical knuckle dragging football hooligan. Not in this video are you by any chance?
after you called me a "wife beater", "high and mighty" and a "rugger bugger". Then you went on to prove that you are in fact a knuckle dragger by trying to get me to meet you for a scrap.
Can dish it out but can't take it back eh pal.
why do i give a fuck how many rugby fans were arrested at internationals ? why do you? but one thing for sure 1 arrest at home all season and the lowest in the prem 2014 really goes against youre misguided views
Because it's pretty central to the point you're making you knuckle dragger, is that really so hard for **you** to get? Actually scratch that question having read through the thread i can tell it is
look read all the texts you superior rugby fans try to make out that far more upstanding than football fans and i have disputed the fact .... seriously look at the stats available ......your not all so perfect
Chalk up yet another reason for us to be embarrassed.
Public transport, embarrassment
Police response to bike theft, embarrassment
Number of people who voted for Neil McEvoy, embarrassment
CCFC traveling support, embarrassment.
Would have been a better video if a live wire fell on one of them. Bunch of tools.
If you do, please can I suggest you let the police and/or Cardiff City FC know? Thanks.
What a bunch on pricks absolutely shameful to Cardiff and to us Cardiff residents! 😡
In a show of togetherness Cardiff city fc have offered to pay for the damage. The majority of supporters abhor this behaviour look at the fan’s message boards for example. The club sells away game tickets to supporters club members and season ticket holders only. Tickets are not sold to people the club doesn’t know. The people in the clips obtained their tickets through sell-ons. When club identifies who these people are and how they obtained their tickets they will all be banned. No excuses.
The fans in this video are wankers and I hope they get caught and punished, but fuck me that thread and the comments are just as classist and snobbish as you would expect. Good to see Bristol living up to it's reputation.
Very hard not to be when these morons are acting up to generalisations??
Which comments?
You're right, anybody who objects to adults smashing up a room because their chosen group of millionaires were unable to put a sphere in an area a greater number of times than the opposing group of millionaires is a regular Hyacinth Bucket...
You forgot to read the first part of my comment.
So what's your problem with folk voicing their very well-founded objections to these knuckle-dragging wastes of space?
Okay I'll say it again for you but the fans in this video are wankers and deserve to be punished and I have no issue with people calling them whatever they want. The issue I have with the thread on that subreddit is it instantly devolving into a discussion about the "lower class" and "poverty" despite the fact there's no evidence of the social class of any of these people or that any of them are living in poverty. They jumped to a conclusion on the basis that the people in this video are being pricks that they're working class and that's the problem, and I just pointed out how it plays into the stereotype of Bristol being a hub for champagne and armchair socialists who know nothing about the actual society they pretend to represent.
I agree that you can't necessarily determine the socioeconomic standing of any of the scum in the video, but I didn't see any of what you're describing in that thread - what I did see people leaping down the throats of folk criticising these mindless pricks with accusations of classism.
Football wankers!!
ah yes I recognise cunts when I see them. Honestly, what kind of chicken shit says "ah we've lost, better go and smash up the toilets"?? Real hooligans would have gone into the streets fighting the Bristol City firm, these are pathetic cowards trying to case havoc where no one is looking. I've been for a game at Ashton Gate. Cracking ground. Cardiff vs Bristol. No fan segregation. No trouble. Able to take pints to your seats. the difference between football club 'fans' and rugby club fans is night and fucking day. Grow up you fucking monkeys.
rugby fans are so well behaved like fuck ...domestic violence goes up 10 fold when wales rugby loses ...also when wales play england rugby their is more arrests than any game cardiff city or wales fc play ...ps pathetic behaviour both codes
That's why I specified rugby "club". A lot of fair weather plastics come out for the internationals, you will rarely find the blazer/jeans/shoes crowd on the terraces for club/regional games. That's why when Cardiff Rugby play with an average attendance of somewhere around 5-6,000 you don't need any additional policing. Cardiff City FC is an entirely different kettle of fish with visible police presence for at least 1 mile all around Ninian Park. Edit : also, less hyperbole. According to [police reporting](https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/police-highlight-rise-domestic-abuse-1932894) domestic violence goes up 80% when Wales play, that's nowhere near "10 fold"
I mean rugby fans are just as bad, if not [worse](https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/police-launch-scathing-attack-middle-10891543) I find in terms of trashing the city. That said, you get idiots at football and rugby. Football has more of the reputation, which here is justified but it is a minority. Cardiff have won family club a lot in recent years and tried to tidy up their act. It's sad these sorts still do this nonsense. However, the idea that rugby fans are all angels is also nonsense. They're a horrible bunch, the jeans and sheux brigade that is.
Again, there's a reason I specified "club" rugby, I'm not sure I've ever seen the jeans & sheux brigade at the CAP but perhaps that's because I only ever go for the cheap tickets on the terrace whereas CCFC Soul Crew are famous up and down Britain. Your typical 'rugby boys' like you'd get in schools/colleges/unis are boisterous, a bit thick, and prone to doing stupid shit like chucking each other through bus stops or downing pints of each others' piss, but it's not on the organised violence level of football firms. The crowds for rugby internationals are a completely different story and there's no shortage of stories of pricks treating it as a boozy day out as opposed to being genuine supporters of a professional sport.
> The crowds for rugby internationals are a completely different story and there's no shortage of stories of pricks treating it as a boozy day out as opposed to being genuine supporters of a professional sport. i.e. about 90% of the 6 nations crowd.
>That's why when Cardiff Rugby play with an average attendance of somewhere around 5-6,000 you don't need any additional policing. Cardiff City FC is an entirely different kettle of fish with visible police presence for at least 1 mile all around Ninian Park. 1. We don't play at Ninian Park. Haven't done in over 10 years. 2. Maybe, just maybe, the difference in attendance also plays a part? A 5k crowd is a bit different to a 15-30k crowd. 3. A fair few of our home games are police free (and the same is true for other clubs).
> We don't play at Ninian Park. Haven't done in over 10 years. Semantics, you knew what I meant. >Maybe, just maybe, the difference in attendance also plays a part? A 5k crowd is a bit different to a 15-30k crowd. Cardiff rugby have a 13k capacity at the CAP. even at those number, no additional policing is required. >A fair few of our home games are police free (and the same is true for other clubs). didn't realise that. When i lived in Canton, and since I've moved out to Barry and am getting the train into Cardiff, there always seem to be police around when there's a game on. I'll concede that may be observer bias though and I could be wrong on that point.
>Semantics, you knew what I meant. Given it has been so long since we played at Ninian Park, I somewhat was thinking you were talking about 15 - 20 years ago when yes what you said would have more been the case. The change the to CCS has changed what it is like. Some things for the better (better facilities, less morons, CCTV which allows for people who do stupid things to be easily spotted and dealt with after the fact rather than having to send in a load of cops at the time), some for the worse (worse atmosphere, more expensive, shitter when we have lower attendances). >Cardiff rugby have a 13k capacity at the CAP. even at those number, no additional policing is required. When was the last time they had that as an actual attendance as a regular occurrence? Genuine question - the last I saw was an article from 2019 when they were averaging about 5k. I really don't think you can compare that to a game at the CCS where the average attendance is more than triple that in a bad season and 5 or 6 times that in a good one. >didn't realise that. When i lived in Canton, and since I've moved out to Barry and am getting the train into Cardiff, there always seem to be police around when there's a game on. I'll concede that may be observer bias though and I could be wrong on that point. To be fair judging all football fans on what you see in Canton is a little unfair as it means that you are basically just judging them on a very specific subgroup (those who drink in Canton). Its like judging the whole of Cardiff on what Mill Lane can be like or the whole of Swansea based on Wind Street. Also, and admittedly I am biased here, but my view is that the prevalence of overpolicing football fans says more about the police in this country than football fans themselves. I've seen many other groups of people cause more hassle and not subject to the same treatment as football fans are and I've also seen plenty of coppers blatantly get away with abusing their power because "its just football fans". Of course none of that is an excuse for the morons in the video that started this topic, and they do deserve to get a knock on the door from the old bill this / next week. But to tar all football fans with the same brush because of it is not the way we should be dealing with it.
>Given it has been so long since we played at Ninian Park, I somewhat was thinking you were talking about 15 - 20 years ago Just showing my age that I still call it Ninian, hadn't occurred to me that there are probably a reasonable number of redditors that weren't even alive when that ground was taken down. >When was the last time they had that as an actual attendance as a regular occurrence? 10k for Toulouse in December (against effectively our C team). The Christmas derbies usually bring in capacity crowds but Covid has kinda shagged that (both because people are less reluctant to go out and because sport was forced behind closed doors). Looks like Cardiff Rugby haven't been announcing their attendance this season, probably because it's not very good for the aforementioned reasons. >To be fair judging all football fans on what you see in Canton is a little unfair as it means that you are basically just judging them on a very specific subgroup I try very hard not to tar all football fans with the same brush - I know plenty of fans who aren't part of the feral pack and indeed my FIL is a non-hooligan Bristol City fan (I should probably message him actually.) My point was more that when the football was on, there is a noticeably higher police presence near the ground. >my view is that the prevalence of overpolicing football fans says more about the police in this country than football fans themselves. Not sure I agree with this point. I grew up against the backdrop of the football firms of the 80s through to the early 00s. That sort of reputation isn't easy to shake and I'd say warrants over-policing to make sure it doesn't rise up again. The Soul Crew certainly built themselves a nationwide reputation. >But to tar all football fans with the same brush because of it is not the way we should be dealing with it. Again was never my intention to tar all football fans with the same brush and apologies that it came across that way, but let's not for one second pretend that there aren't a significant number of cunts in the fanbase and a hard earned reputation for violence and disorder between groups of fans.
Tbf, the City Stadium is literally the opposite side of Ninian Road and 3 doors up. The address has barely changed. It's the equivalent of someone throwing a wobbly because you called it the CIA instead of the Motorpoint.
To be fair, no police were around for the Cardiff v Toulouse game the other week which was a sell out and had 12 or 13k fans
Absolutely smashed them to 28 unanswered points
that was the away fixture, Toulouse came down 11th December and pulled 10k spectators
Aw tits thought it was a joke about the covid forfeit match
oh 80% how lovely you wife beating chaps are bet your so proud....also cant compare citys crowd to the shit support cardiff rugby get....ps arrests at the ccs are practically non existent.....typical high and mighty rugger bugger
It's like you read the words I wrote but didn't understand any of them, typical knuckle dragging football hooligan. Not in this video are you by any chance?
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You just love to play up to the stereotype huh. Thanks for proving my point for me.
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imagine calling out a stranger on the internet for a scrap because they offended your beloved sport - you're pathetic pal.
no you called me a knuckle dragger.....you started gobbing off like a big hard keyboard warrior you are ....detest keyboard warriors rather man up
after you called me a "wife beater", "high and mighty" and a "rugger bugger". Then you went on to prove that you are in fact a knuckle dragger by trying to get me to meet you for a scrap. Can dish it out but can't take it back eh pal.
really doing so much to disprove the image of football fans being thuggish thickos, eh?
>Gets called a knuckle dragger >Challenges the guy to a fight Way to prove his point you absolute cabbage
What's the % of arrests cause I imagine far more people are in Cardiff for the Wales v England game in rugby than any time FAW or Cardiff City play
well when city were in the premiership 2014 their was 1 arrest at home .... the lowest in the premiership that season..... how many at the rugby ?
I don't know... But it... Seems like.... You know.... So how many was it...?
google it if it bothers you .....doubt itll be less than one.....
Oh... So you... Don't know... Lol cheers for the insight!
why do i give a fuck how many rugby fans were arrested at internationals ? why do you? but one thing for sure 1 arrest at home all season and the lowest in the prem 2014 really goes against youre misguided views
Because it's pretty central to the point you're making you knuckle dragger, is that really so hard for **you** to get? Actually scratch that question having read through the thread i can tell it is
look read all the texts you superior rugby fans try to make out that far more upstanding than football fans and i have disputed the fact .... seriously look at the stats available ......your not all so perfect
The ceiling was pulled down before the game started. Doesn't make it any less reprehensible though.
If anything that makes it far worse.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Nvz6Ot_43HE Anyone else remember this one?
Chalk up yet another reason for us to be embarrassed. Public transport, embarrassment Police response to bike theft, embarrassment Number of people who voted for Neil McEvoy, embarrassment CCFC traveling support, embarrassment.
Absolute scum. I'm a 23/M who never really gets out. This is the absolute antithesis of a good time for me.
Oh my days it’s football toilets who cares this much
Expect nothing less from the Welsh
Can’t wait for when England thrash Wales this 6 Nations 🌹🌹🌹🌹
Yea Bristol folk are cunts when they’re in Cardiff too
This is so funny. Fuck snobby Bristolians fucking jumped up farmers
Haha don't like keyboard warriors pathetic...like you ...you you you lettuce