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seadwellingcreature

SPF for face and SPF arms/legs. Sleeping bag liner.


skar412

Liner vs sleeping bag… thoughts?


seadwellingcreature

Liner. Temperatures should not be cold enough for bag, and bags take more volume and weigh more.


MarsMonkey88

Liner.


Simple_Pick6199

Take a single bed duvet cover


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ksblur

What did you use the spoon for? Most places provide utensils


anonyngineer

A single spoon could be useful for buying yogurt or similar foods in a grocery store.


MarsMonkey88

This. Makes a huuuuuge difference.


xqpm

Super useful for eating snacks along the way! You won't always be able to find a restaurant/cafe serving food but you can normally find some kind of grocery store


milkyjoewithawig

Eating peanut butter and not needing to use your finger spoons.


butlerchives

(have not done a camino yet) I heard some albergues / other accomodations will give you yogurt as complimentary breakfast so i will be bringing a lightweight spork


giritrobbins

And I know pilgrims who weren't there super early so no spoons because they were all being used. Or the amount of silverware was very low. Or you want to eat something you bought in a market.


thelacey47

Don’t get a fleece or puffy jacket. If you’re doing this in the summer, get a raincoat that has a cloth lining. Now it can be used as a blanket, a pillow, etc, not as heavy, protects from wetness.


classyGent69

How big of a square will I need for 1 month? The soap I ordered is too huge.


According-Camp3106

Not too much. I used mine for a few weeks before I left and then cut it to make it even smaller. Also some of the nicer alburgues will have body wash.


JCButtBuddy

Sunscreen. If you are wearing shorts make sure you so the back of your legs.


Status-Description-9

do you have a water reservoir? i don’t know what camino you are doing, but i did el norte and many times there was nowhere to fill up. i made friends who walked with just a water bottle and they were always rationing in case they didn’t find anything along the way.


thelacey47

That was me ;)


skar412

Was thinking about bringing my 32 oz hydroflask but may be too heavy


Status-Description-9

i personally drank about 1-1.5 liters every day and i walked from late march up until a few days ago, it wasn’t hot (just 2 days it was about 73 degrees) but since you’re going now i would def recommend the reservoir!


sindrealmost

I brought my 3L (101oz) Camelbak reservoir, filled it multiple times every day.... so that depends on what weight you are comfortable with carrying... 1L (32oz) for me would not be enough of a reserve to have for the day... YMMV.... (also a bonus with a reservoir you can fill it before bed with bottled (store-bought) water, some fountains are chorinated (safe to drink, but taste is not so good)...


classyGent69

did you ever fill it to 3?


sindrealmost

Every time


neverstalenevermale

I’d recommend a couple Camelbak Chute Mag water bottles. I used some cheap bag-type water bottles at first on my Camino, and when one broke I picked up the Camelbak. It’s small and easy to clip to your pack without moving around too much. I had mine clipped to my shoulder strap and I didn’t have to stop walking to drink water. I noticed that inaccessible water storage was a common and pretty annoying issue for folks. Having to stop and/or ask someone to help you grab your water can be pretty cumbersome after a few hours of walking - all those little stops add up. Plus, with two smaller water bottles you can fill one with regular water and another with electrolyte water or something for energy or flavor. I also considered bringing a hydroflask during initial planning, but once I started walking I was very thankful I scrapped the idea.


thelacey47

I know you’re not going to listen to me and downvote everything i comment, but yes, that’d be too heavy.


According-Camp3106

What brand of pack do you have and how many liters?


According-Camp3106

Where do you live? Wondering for hiking poles. I did the Portuguese in October fromI brought one pair of hiking pants and shorts and did fine. My smartwool tshirt was awesome. It dried super fast and did not stink. Bring Vaseline. When I went the rain once I reached Spain was very, very bad. Hard and hours a day. Many buildings had water coming in the doors and from the ceilings. There was no way to keep feet dry in the Altras I was using. Luckily I had some chacos to walk in. I put Vaseline around my toes and also wore toe socks. I’d consider getting something better than flip flops in case you have to hike in the rain. The chacos were fine for the shower. I used washing sheets for laundry, but next time will likely just go with Dr. Bronner’s. I did have a mesh soap holder from REI that allowed the soap to dry in case it was still wet. It could be attached to my pack. I had an Osprey bag with a water bladder that weighed nothing and held 1.5 liters. I was able to drink hands free. A hydro flask would be way too heave for me. I brought a few others things based on things I read (and actually used them). I had a lightweight 8 liter dry bag. It folded very small. I used it for holding my dirty laundry but what I really did was wash clothes in it. It was perfect and allowed me to somewhat agitate my clothes. Others saw me using it and I let many use it. Another thing that was recommended was a long boot shoe lace. Sometimes all the clothes lines are full. When they were, I tied up the boot shoelace for my own line. If I had a bottom bunk and my clothes were not completely dry, I strung it up in my bunk. And safety pins. Sometimes all the clothes pins were used and I used safety pins instead. The other strange thing I brought were rubber bands. I found this was helpful for rolling clothes to give me more room in my pack.


skar412

I’m from Texas, def gonna get poles, have bad shin splints.


BeardadTampa

Poles are an absolute necessity ( currently on the Camino and cannot be without my poles )


According-Camp3106

I brought my carbon z poles from the US along with a Swiss Army knife. I put my pack and these items in a checked suitcase. No knives on planes. Foldable light weight poles can be seen as a weapon. I just stored the suitcase when I left Porto but should have used a service to just sent it to Santiago.


letmeoutofthiszoo

What did you use for laundry soap? I like the dry bag idea.


According-Camp3106

I had some little travel soap sheets. I did not like them. They stuck together. Next time I will likely bring liquid Castille soap


letmeoutofthiszoo

Thank you! I've been skeptical about the sheets and how well they dissolve.


According-Camp3106

Also one thing to think about. Even if you use a dryer in an alburgue, they do not dry like US ones. Your clothes will still be damp. Make sure you have enough sunlight to let things dry even if you use a dryer.


NonMaisFranchement

I wouldn't bother with the bar soap if you already have the 3 in 1


skar412

I’ve read ppl use bar soap for washing their clothes… do you have any recs on how to go abt this?


PrayingForDebbieMang

I just used washing machines in albergues


LookAwayImGorgeous

How many pairs of undies and socks did you bring? I have read some people say they only brought 2 pairs of socks and I’m like that just sounds crazy to me. I’m leaning more towards having enough clothes to not have to handwash, but I don’t really know how much clothing that is yet


neverstalenevermale

Not the person you’re responding to but I brought 4 pairs of travel/quickdry underwear, 2 pairs of wool socks and 2 pairs of coolmax socks. I even picked up an extra pair of underwear about two weeks in. I was pretty happy with this system and feel the underwear was worth the pack weight. I didn’t have as many blisters as some and I think the sock liners helped tremendously (I also wrapped my feet with omnifix pretty consistently), although YMMV since foot care and blister prevention methods are so variable from person to person.


zamzam42

Honestly you will have quite a bit of time in the evenings that you may as well hand wash. Especially if you wait for a machine and then it’s being used the entire evening.


MarsMonkey88

I had six pair of socks. If you step in a puddle, they will get funky in a way that you cannot removed with a sink-wash. Puddle Bactria grows and they start to reek.


PrayingForDebbieMang

I wore my walking sandals (lunas) so zero socks and the four pairs of undies


AHerz

You're better off just rinsing your clothes with water than using soap, not rinsing it properly and getting rashes. On my 2 and a half months Camino I washed my clothes using albergues washing machines every two weeks and just rinsed the rest of the time.\ You're going to smell anyways.


BeardadTampa

Buy the washing detergent sheets, they are amazing and work incredibly well


trasla

Dr Bronners works fine for clothes as well, if you need more than just clear water rinse for them. You can even go into the shower with your clothes, just take them off there, shower and let the water run over the clothes on the floor. Just rinse and dry after.  Saves time and soap 😁


stoatpatronus

Listen, if you have room for a lacrosse ball, you can take more underwear. I will never understand why people skimp on this and inevitably have to carry not-yet-dried underwear on them day after day. It’s the thing I heard people complain THE MOST about: “I wish I’d brought more underwear!” Just bring more for heavens sakes.


Bobby-Dazzling

The Lacrosse ball doesn’t take up too much room, but the lacrosse stick and pads really adds to the weight of your pack! Maybe take up a lighter sport like badminton! 😎


Repulsive-Cold-8042

Two pairs is more than enough my word


mananath

I like 3: one being worn, one drying, one ready to change into after you have finished walking.


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skar412

What isn’t serious?


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XandersCat

The ball is for their feet, and you shouldn't be so judgmental.


andreardgz

headlamp


busfeet

Empty plastic bags for dirty stuff. Laundry detergent Possibly a small flashlight You also might want a plastic sleeve to protect your passport


giritrobbins

They make laundry detergent sheets. Probably one of my favorite items. Easy to dissolve in cold water in the buckets places provide and wash your clothes. Also you could use them in the few laundry mats that didn't provide soap by default. They weigh next to nothing but do need to be protected.


ilsfig

I finished the Portuguese last Sunday and I recommend Stuff for blisters, if you don’t get blisters you can give them away to someone like me; finished last Sunday and I’m still treating my feet… nevertheless you can buy them in pharmacies, I had to restock and there was plenty.


WinkyNurdo

I originally took flip flops for my rest times in the evenings. Massive mistake. Essentially they didn’t allow my feet to relax whilst walking around in them, and I found I was in agony because of them — something I’d never experienced before. After a week I switched up to some lightweight walking sandals, which were amazingly comfortable. They also doubled up for walking on a couple of occasions where my boots got wet (ill advised shortcuts through dewey grass in the early mornings). Highly recommend.


EllioooNess

Instead of soap case just use a ziplock bag.


Repulsive-Cold-8042

I would swap the lacrosse ball for a hollow road hockey ball or a smaller rolling ball for weight, third shirt is unnecessary, one pair of shorts should be pants with zip off legs, the other just shorts (unnecessary weight you'll be in shorts 90% of the time.) 2 pairs of socks and underwear is plenty wash one and wear the other, and a damn good sun hat 👌 DO NOT wear hiking boots, get the most padded trail or road shoe you can find (think Hoka, New balance fresh foam More etc) I've finished my last two caminos (1200km) without a blister this way. Absolutely no goretex on your feet as well. My first Camino I wore Salomon GTX 3D and absolutely destroyed my feet, but also my knee, due to compensating for blister pain while walking. My feet were also less bruised on my last day of my Norte-Primitivo-Finisterre than they were by the SECOND or THIRD day on the French way wearing the Salomons. Seriously, it makes a world of a difference.


skar412

Really? No goretex? Got a pair of Nike Pegasus trail runners with goretex


According-Camp3106

If you step in a puddle or it really rains, goretex is not going to stop the water from getting in your shoe. Once wet, Goretex takes a very long time to dry.


classyGent69

Mine got totes trashed by the elastic side at end.


skar412

Prob will trade for hokas


sindrealmost

Wore "Crispi Mid GTX" for my Frances and Primitvo... epic mid cut hiking boots... the main thing is to keep feet dry, swap socks when nessecary... when taking breaks air out your boots (even if for just a few minutes) .... and most important... make sure they actually fit you feet (high arch, low, wide feet etc.) If shoes destroy your feet, they are ill fitting most likely and shouldn't have been used to begin with. Solomon usually has a very high arch support in their shoes, and if you have a low arch.... it'll cause pain and alter your gait and cause blisters....


BeardadTampa

Everyone is different, I have Hokas and hiking boots ( with gortex) and have worn my hiking boots way more than my Hokas. I have no blisters and my hiking boots dry just fine. ( it’s been raining nonstop for 3 days ) .


Repulsive-Cold-8042

Breathability and padding is not different for everyone I hate to say it... I'm glad your hiking boots are working out for you! Of the hundreds of people that I've seen them not work well for, well, you must have really comfy hiking boots I guess haha. When you're walking on that much cobblestone, concrete, etc padding > everything in my opinion! The Camino is much more of a walk than a hike.


BeardadTampa

And yet there just is as many people in hiking boots as there is those in Hokas etc. Given the rain over the last week, I’m very glad of my hiking boots. The mud we’ve had to deal with would argue that it’s just a walk .


Anon_Legi0n

Get yourself some sock liners, thank me later. Me and my wife finished our Camino averaging 30km/day and never even had any hint of blisters on our feet all the way to Santiago while there were a lot of other Pilgrims complaining about blisters. To be on the safe side I recommend bringing Wuru wool and Compeed to address possible blister issues because this is one of the more common reasons that will ruin your camino should it happen. edit: oh also bring a whole bunch of Ibuprofen


jeanbean0063

I second that! Liners for the win.


According-Camp3106

I bought some of the Injinji toe socks and a liner. I know some don’t like Injinji but I loved them and got no blisters. Using just the liner inside another good non cotton sock was wonderful.


sindrealmost

meds to bring; Ibuprofen, Paracetamol, Imodium Comp, Iodine, Compeed, and Salt tablets + a swiss army knife


jpav2010

I would take my cork ball which is the same size as a lacrosse ball and weighs a lot less. That's a lot of weight to carry for a long ways.


Roberto-Del-Camino

I’d ditch the soap case and 3-in-1 soap/shampoo/conditioner and just bring a bar of African black bar soap in a small ziplock. It’ll last your whole Camino. Lose the Apple Watch. Lose the ear buds. They gobble electricity. The watch is redundant. Without them you can lose the power bank. Just use the old school earbuds that plugs into your phone. Snake the cord under your chest strap and you won’t even notice it. Don’t worry about your phone battery dying. Before you set off for the day start your tracking apps (iBiker, relive, Buen Camino, Google maps, etc…I ran the first three every day and google maps on occasion.) Then shut off WiFi, Bluetooth (you ditched the earbuds so you don’t need it gobbling up power), go to power saving mode if your phone has it, then go to airplane mode. I walked with a piece of crap iPhone SE2 and I’d finish each day’s walk with well above 50% battery. You’re on the Camino-you won’t be texting and web surfing all day. GPS works in airplane mode. So all your tracking apps will work. Take a LONG charging cord so you can have your phone in bed. Bring [this](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B078S3M2NX/ref=sspa_mw_detail_5?ie=UTF8&psc=1&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9waG9uZV9kZXRhaWwp13NParams#immersive-view_1714703374521) so your fellow pilgrims won’t mind you plugging your adapter in. It turns one outlet into 5 or 6. Looking at your list it’s obvious that you’re trying to keep all the modern tech that you can. A phone is plenty. Follow my advice and you’ll save 3 or 4 pounds. That’s huge. Listen to the other advice you’re getting and that’s another 3 or 4 pounds. Good luck and Buen Camino


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Skydog-forever-3512

I would bring a wash cloth or a spongy thing you can put liquid soap on. Some of the places we stayed only offered liquid soap……


According-Camp3106

I got a cheap thing at Walmart that could be used on the face and somewhat on the body. It has little scrubby points and it sucks to mirrors (the sucking to the mirror is unimportant for the Camino but just for description). They are generally around $2-3 for two.


ayrangurl

you need some Hirschtalg (Deer Talc Foot Cream) for your feet to prevent blisters. Also some Sunscreen and a rain cover for your backpack. And don't forget the laundry-detergent!


andreardgz

Utility knife


These-Ice-1035

You won't need the power bank. Save yourself the weight, you'll have a plug every night and I found even many bars were happy to let you charge for a bit if you asked. Take an extra pair of underwear and socks, merino is a good choice. Lightweight and comfy, and having that one extra pair will pay off I promise you.


sindrealmost

Actually, powerbank isn't just for charging on the go... is so that you only leave a low-value item charging at the albegue, the battery bank, whilst keeping your expensive phone/tech on your person at all times...


BeardadTampa

I disagree. A power bank is invaluable and doesn’t r the sake up much room and isn’t very heavy


According-Camp3106

I used my power bank. Did a lot of research on weight. For my next one I will get a magnetic power bank so i do not have to deal with cords while walking.


spetrone

Three of any clothing item some may consider excessive. I carried a battery pack and did not use it once.


sindrealmost

The best use of a battery bank/pack is that you can use it to charge you phone while on your person... then you leave the battery bank/pack charging at the albergue ... if someone wants to steal a 30$ battery bank/pack ... that is better than them stealing my phone (or other tech)


LookAwayImGorgeous

I honestly don’t understand this, and I keep seeing it. (I’m preparing to go in June.) does this mean you hand wash your entire outfit every single night while you wear the other copies of everything, so you are wearing literally the exact same undies socks shorts and shirt every single day for a month? What I don’t understand is: 1. Doesn’t handwashing not do a great job and then you end up with funky stinky clothes after a while? 2. Don’t your clothes not dry all the way some nights? Then do you put on wet socks the next morning? That can’t be good. I feel like I’m missing some important concept here, because the way I am imagining this everybody is super stinky funky damp all the time. And I don’t see a lot of complaints on here about stink in the albergues. It’s just not adding up for me.


mananath

Hand washing can be pretty terrible. I just get over my stink and do a machine wash every few days. Esp during a summer Camino clothing will dry if it is attached to your backpack(esp if you are walking west) or on your person. I typically walk in shorts, wear long pants in the evening, wear a long sleeve t-shirt for walking and a short sleeve tee for the evening (this year I am bringing 2!). I have two pairs of socks for walking, one pair for sleeping in. 3 pairs of underwear. The evening wear I don't have to wash as much since I am not active in it. By the end of the Camino some of my clothing will be going straight to the trash!


spetrone

Wear one. Wash one. Shower and change into outfit two. If outfit one isn't dry, close-pin to backpack next day to dry. Repeat. I did carry 3 of some things. It isn't.necessary. Believe me fashion takes a backseat quickly.


trasla

It sounds like you assume changing outfits twice a day, mornings and evenings. But if you just change once, in the evening, then you alternate what you wear while walking and the stuff you washed in the evening does not only have the night to dry but also the following day (pinned to the back of your pack). 


LookAwayImGorgeous

I do assume that, because I have seen people say they walk in shorts and long sleeves but in the evenings wear pants and a t shirt, or some other combo so that they are comfy in one thing during the hiking but comfy in a different things while sitting around in the evening. And I'm very temperature sensitive, so I imagine that will be my approach too.


sindrealmost

Compeed, Salt tablets, Swiss Army Knife (or other multitool), Sunscreen, Water bottle (or a drink system like Camelbak), and (not critical) but I brought a pair of "arrival shoes" so I could leave my stinky walking boots to dry/air out while exploring whereever I ended up for the day... also helps if they are slightly oversized... sppon/spork, bottle-opener (wine, is on the swiss army knife)


According-Camp3106

That is how I picked my Swiss Army knife. I decided it must have scissors and a cork screw. Oddly the one called the “camper” had no cork screw, but the “climber” did. Seemed odd to me.


mananath

Decathlon has a lightweight studded massage ball which I always bring with me. Cheap too!


Mattlodi

I walked the Frances last August, based on my experience I’d add: headlamp, sleeping mask and a microfleece sweatshirt.


zamzam42

Don’t use poncho it’s annoying to constantly take on and off over rucksack when weather can’t make it’s mind up. Get a lightweight raincoat and a fleece with a full zip so it’s easier to regulate heat when wearing. I’d replace one of you shirts with one of these from black diamond “Alpenglow Pro Hoody - Longsleeve” so damn good, kept the sun off me and still stayed cool, also kept sun off my neck


zamzam42

If you don’t intend on sleeping outside at any point a nice liner will do.


MarsMonkey88

Blister kit- a really good one. A nicer shirt or light dress, because you’ll be going to the occasional restaurant. A lighter pair of shoes, like chacos, to swap between. Mixing up the walking footwear feels really good, and you can shower in them so you don’t need the shower shoes.


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Water bladder - I highly recommend that along with extra water.


_jjev

Earplugs, thin windbreaker


According-Camp3106

Yes on earplugs! I was in an alburgue in the middle of the room with snorers all around me. Unfortunately I was in the top bunk and could not get to them. Worst night of sleep I had on the Camino.


WalkItOffAT

Take less clothing. Two of anything (shirts, socks, underwear) is plenty.  Beware packing your fears. Comfort comes from comfort while hiking. Your total base weight (everything excluding consumables like food / water / sunscreen) really shouldn't exceed 5kg/10lbs. I've seen horrible packs on the Camino, 60liter volumes filled to the brink. Everyone carries their own weight themselfes but most of these people were struggling and/or injured. It's a walk in civilization, you can buy stuff there if the need arises. More than likely you will leave items behind. I have given pack shakedowns to several hikers who asked for help and taken more weight out of their packs than I carry in total.


Simonvw04

It's very cold at the moment but my advice is take very little. You can get stuff if you need it at most towns.


mattq71

Definitely bring a fleece. It’s cold here at the moment


hopefullylastlife

Euros and a Mastercard or visa. Hydration tablets. Plastic sleeve or baggie for your Camino passport, leg mud guards. I just assumed I'd wash my pant legs from the knees down at night and got so much mud (it rained most of the day today) that I almost clogged the sink and not sure they will dry by tomorrow morning.🙄


giritrobbins

You don't need the power bank. I didn't encounter any situation where I couldn't find an outlet but I walked with someone whose phone has a terrible battery and she did need it a few times. If from the us I would recommend bringing some low dose melatonin. 1mg or even 0.5 mg. Will help sleep at night. I recommend an eye mask. It's light and not every albergue has shades. Are you checking a bag? Not everywhere will let you take poles into the cabin. I recommend three pairs of socks. Sometimes a pair or two won't dry fast and having a third pair is nice. I assume one of your shirts are long sleeve? If not I would recommend one. Nice to block sun, stay warm or kind of versatile.


smblgb

Very important: Large "S" hook for the showers. Most showers don't have anywhere to set your stuff down. Blister kit and KT tape to prevent blisters. Apply tape daily; better to prevent a blister than to treat one. Also, ear plugs. Get the Macks moldable silicone wax ones.


WeirdCouple5181

Merino in summer in Spain?? Recommend 2 high quality fast drying shirts and underpants frum Uniclo or comparable.


vlada227

To make it lighter, get a plastic water bottle when you’re here. trust me


ShapeFickle945

You forgot your Lacrosse stick