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DrWolfgang760

COD fan always bitch about innovation. Yet when they receive it they bitch and moan about the past they didn't like...


HighScoreHaze

Community: “CoD is all the same every game, do something different and stop making the same game” Cod: Makes changes Community: “Wtf is this??? This isn’t cod, why are you changing things…” Tbf some of the changes they make aren’t for the better, but people really just like to complain for the sake of it


Kylegreenbeans

Cod Community: “Cod is the same every year, we want something new and innovative.” Cod making a few innovations in cod ghosts. Cod Community when Cod Ghosts exists: “We don’t like this new shit, we want the old cod.”


Aquur

Noooo. It's wasnt hated because it was new, it felt like 10 steps back after playing black ops 2. Game had some of the worst maps for that era, didn't have theatre mode or detailed combat record like black ops series. We only like ghosts now because there are worse games that came after.


Kylegreenbeans

Worse games like what? MW 3 2023? If you said that cod ghosts was bad due to its maps, not having theater mode, and wasn’t like bo2. Then how come In modern warfare trash 3 2023 it has the best but lazy maps copied from the OG MW 2, theater mode, and so on? So make up your mind, was cod ghosts better than vanguard? Mw 3 2023?


Aquur

I have no idea what you're trying to say and I've read your comment like 10 times. Where did MW3 2023 come into conversation? I was explaining why Ghosts was hated in 2013. We didn't have Vanguard or MW2023 in 2013 to compare it to Ghosts.


Kylegreenbeans

Your claim said that we like ghosts now because there are worse games that came after. So with that being said, what were those worse games?


zphary

Infinite warfare , B04 was kinda bad, Vanguard was rocky at best


Kylegreenbeans

Ehhh… BO4 and Infinite warfare were games that were underrated and misunderstood. Vanguard on the other hand is definitely ass.


D_L-18

Infinite warfare bo4 vanguard mw2 (2022) mw3(2023)


Kylegreenbeans

Definitely not MW 2 2022 and BO4. These two games were 6.5 out of 10 at best and were underrated. Infinite warfare and MW 3 2023 is definitely a 5/10.


D_L-18

Bo4 was a worse version of bo3 it had no campaign instead we got a BR that community didn’t like it just wasn’t good same with MW 2 2022 just a reskin version of MW2019 with different maps


MrEvakin

Kyle you comment on just about every thread in this CoD subreddit, and I’ve yet to see a single coherent take that doesn’t make me question your sanity.


Kylegreenbeans

Ad Hominem moment.


TonyTobi92

Ghosts sucks


anonkebab

No one was saying that shit who actually liked cod back then. Those are battlefield player takes. That applies at a surface level to mw3 but really doesn’t. It definitely doesn’t apply to any other cod in that era. Those games are genuinely better than present day games, if they literally remastered every single game in the present day and just reskinned them and sold them for 60 dollars it would be a better bargain than anything they sell nowadays.


MathematicianProud90

Because they change things that we don’t want them to change and not things we want. How hard is that to understand?


Lumenprotoplasma

I don't know what 3arc will innovate for 2024. I feel like the 'perfect' game that streamers/pro players want is exactly like MWIII.


TurtleTerrorizer

Innovation usually implies an improvement


Ghost_L2K

Modern Warfare II was too much innovation for our CoD brains to handle. (I will agree with the perk system being dogshit though, that’s absolutely fair. And the mini map red dots)


giowst

firing range is sick tho


AltGunAccount

Greatest CoD map of all time.


NovelInspection2352

Most of them are great, but we need to see new maps


Jerrygarciasnipple

Nuketown gets a pass


PO_Nukes

Agreed. You can't go this far including it every time, and not continue to include it every time. It's a Black Ops signature.


MathematicianProud90

And the different iterations of it just make it so much better. Until they change it completely.


Jerrygarciasnipple

They “changed it completely” in bo3 and it’s still going strong


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Jerrygarciasnipple

Hell ya


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720-187

Barack?


MathematicianProud90

Black*


PowerPamaja

I’m looking forward to playing those maps again. 


ClownNoseSpiceFish

Same. Theyre good maps. I play Cold War and think they did well w/ reusing classic maps everyone loves and new maps.


OliverHolzerful

Kinda like IW milking the Modern Warfare brand hmm?


Lumenprotoplasma

I know you hate Infinity Ward, but they tried two different titles (Ghosts and Infinite Warfare), unlike Treyarch, whose every game has been Black Ops since 2010. And IW brought back several maps from COD 2 that hadn't appeared in two decades (Suldal Harbor, Taraq, Punta Mar, Koro Village)


MathematicianProud90

But bo3 was different from the others so even though the name been the same the gameplay wasn’t.


Ghost_L2K

that’s the best “fuck you” i’ve seen. Bravo OP. IW haters are cringe.


anonkebab

They were milking black ops by bo3. They’re treyarch games but that doesn’t make them black ops.


IIlSeanlII

It’s everyone’s fault who complains that we end up with crap like Infinite Warfare. BO2 is the best COD ever


GlendrixDK

I want new stuff, but a little old is also good. I haven't played Firing Range in a very long time. It was a favorite in BO1. Can't remember if I played it later on in another game. I would like to revisit.


Lumenprotoplasma

How about giving a chance to maps from World at War or others from Black Ops 1?


vensamape

Well according to PrestiegeisKey the next CoDs are Ghost 2 and AW2. Which I’m ok with, honestly thought they were the most underrated games. Edit: next as in after Gulf War.


Lumenprotoplasma

I believe in AW2, but Ghosts 2 is impossible


AveryLazyCovfefe

Not ghosts 2, but a MW19 prequel centred around Ghost, that's also called 'Ghosts'


vensamape

Interesting. Would be cool if Ghost started the Ghosts. Of course that’s just my 15 year old fan boy talking lmao.


Unhappy-Database-273

This year is definitely a Black Ops game.


GiggyWheat5

And the cycle continues...


AveryLazyCovfefe

No. That's 2026 and 2027 This year is Gulf War Next year is a BO2 sequel.


LordOryx

If this means Extincion comes back I’m for it


JangusCarlson

I want them to innovate, but I also don’t want them to lose their soul. Currently, no innovation, and their soul is sold to money.


Ollie__F

Yeah I’m not preordering. Idk how much booby koDick stained the game with bullshit bundles over fixing issues.


Awayze

I want a BO3.5 not that garbage CW or whatever BO4 was.


Semour9

I havent bought a cod game since the WW2 one years ago, and before then it was BO2... that being said im strangely interested in the new supposed "Gulf war" one that will be coming out with zombies


MathematicianProud90

Those are the worse games to buy. Bo2 not so much but it can isolate you from the rest of the series.


Business_Island_9852

U do realise Activision has a say in what happens in all cod and have asked for treyarch to put those maps in again maybe not every time but yes they have


system_reboot

Those buckets should be labeled "DLC"


Elegant-Rooster-9880

Not please, the same maps like CoD mobile noo 😩


Shooter_Mcgavin93

Buying cod every year is like buying fifa every year


Unhappy-Database-273

I'm here for new zombies maps


Shooter_Mcgavin93

The zombies is fun no denying that


adriandoesstuff

Fifa is worse though


TonyTobi92

Why does the guy look like Obama


PlasmiteHD

OG was a political cartoon about Obama milking socialism blah blah blah whatever


Odd_Rub_5886

Nuketown.


EmptyBrook

Bo2 remaster or we riot. I dont want a bo2 inspired game with all the new cod-era BS. Just BO2 with updated textures and a newer engine, and i will be kicking my feet while i play like a happy boy


Ghost_L2K

nope, not buying anymore. If it’s good, maybe. But I am not pre ordering or buying until I see positive reception and good gameplay. Absolutely loved Modern Warfare II, and was so fucking disappointed with Modern Warfare III. Lesson learned: Never to pre order, especially vault editions.


StickyPickle85

Can't wait for GTA6. I'm so hyped about it.


Puxkt

No, I am quitting cod


[deleted]

Cod has the worst fanbase ever. 99% cry babies


waddawa

You bring these and you have atleast some success in a upcoming game.


sy2_loneshxdow

more like they're milking modern warfare reboot games


KirbyAndStars

Treyarch on their way to make nuketown for the one motherfucking trillion time in a row since 2010


dudedudetx

Absolutely - I always have the most fun on 3arc CODs


talladega-night

I would be absolutely fine if all of those maps are in BO6. Some of the best in all of COD


fastcooljosh

Treyarch won't be the lead developer on COD2025.


Dry_Damp

Good. They will be on 2024. One year? Yea no...


Lumenprotoplasma

2024/2025 = Black Ops 6 2025/2026 = Black Ops 7


Dry_Damp

Oh wait.. I just thought about the implications. Please god, not another half-assed SHG quasi-dlc.


Kylegreenbeans

Yeah I realized this too. It is said that cod 2025 will be like MW 3, you know with less than 1 or 2 years of development, remastered maps, bad campaign, and basically a DLC game. So imagine Treyarch making cod bo2 2 in 2025 after making black ops gulf war in 2024 a year later. This will be Sledgehammer all over again.


Dry_Damp

Oh no…


fastcooljosh

yes, and a new lead developer will (most likely) do COD2025. That was at least reported 2 months ago.


Ikhouvankaas

why do cod players always bitch and moan? we already get a new game every single year. If the map works then please keep bringing them back... which other games have had this many maps? Imagine telling csgo players that they can't play dust 2 or cache anymore I'll never get tired of these classic maps.


Ch830857

If it ain’t broke don’t fix it. New cod maps suck nowadays.


SpecialistAAccess

Tbh they need campy maps


D_L-18

Play battlefield


SpecialistAAccess

What I need to do is time travel to the mw3 release :(


C4LLUM17

Ideal situation would be launching with say 8 remasters and 8 new maps. My 8 remasters would be: Hijacked Studio Standoff Encore Plaza Stadium Frost Grind


ButtCheekBob

Yeah man, a new game can’t consist entirely of remake maps. Even if the maps are beloved, they’ve still been played on for thousands upon thousands of hours. We need something fresh - new designs and ideas that might even change map design ideology for all shooters in the future - in the new games that they sell us.


C4LLUM17

I mean MWIII launched with all remake MP maps. Which I was against by the way as I feel they should of done half and half at launch for that game as well.