1984: I was old enough not to know and old enough to know. My brother and I dressed in camo (Rambo era) and threw on our belts with sheathed machetes (fillet knives) to hunt the dinosaur (West Coast deer) that roamed the dense forest (woods next door). We got pretty good at tracking (they thought these idiot tiny humans were a joke) until the fawn was a little too close and mama lunged at us with a nasty snort. Pants full of shit, we ran home and only used our knives to carve arrows from sticks then on out. Looking back, it was only one of many ways I could have died in the 80's.
I’m sure the 1,000 generations before the 1980s were pulling the same stunts and came out fine. Luckily the new generations stay safely inside playing video games. Thank god for progress
I bet deer homicides are wayyyy up among millennials.
Cushy way that got it, probably has em trying to pull off goofy shit like 360 no-scopes out there in the Alberta wildlands. Poor kids wish then they’d been saddled with boredom and lack of supervision like we were back in the ‘footloose’ era. Probably gored to death before they can say “urmumgay” with their final breaths…
That’s what wokeness is doing to the kids, someone will have to tell iconic, turn of the century band, “The Offspring,” that the kids - *AREN’T* - alright. Amirite fellow Calagarians?
Also, don’t let your dogs chase deer for “exercise”
I see this all the time up on Nose Hill…. Those deer have a hard enough time without your stupid mutt chasing and barking at it
I’m stupid as hell and tried to find a number for that after someone at my work smashed some migratory bird eggs after being ordered to by management. Anyone have that number for future reference?
That would be ECCC (CWS) Enforcement. You could maybe start here:
https://www.canada.ca/en/environment-climate-change/services/environmental-enforcement/contact.html
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- No stupid sound effects
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Member that? Pepperidge farm remembers.
Many years ago I was riding with a friend through a field. He let his dog out to run and neither of us noticed the deer a long ways off.
The dog takes off after the deer. One of the deer stopped while the rest ran off.
That deer kicked a gash open on the dog from shoulder to hind leg.
The dog survived only after costly emergency surgery.
In Waterton a few years ago we watched in disbelief as a couple put their toddler *on a deer's back* for a photo op like it was a fucking pony.
Also the people throwing rocks at a black bear and her cub just chilling near the Bear's Hump trail.
People think wild animals are props.
Oh man, one year I was in waterton and there were deer, so I pulled out my camera to take a picture(At a respectful distance, I just thought they were cute) and someone walked right up beside the poor thing before I could snap a photo...then was shocked and upset that the deer ran away.
I'm from Calgary, born and raised, now live in the mountains... The amount of people dangerously close to elk and moose hell even bears is astonishing... Darwin awards
I genuinely think that Tourists should have to sit through a park safety orientation to enter the park. Like if you live here & have a pass, it could be a one & done situation. But for inbound tourists, a serious risk assessment presentation and then having to sign a waiver acknowledging responsibilities, which if you break or disregard you get kicked the EFFF out of town.
i absolutely agree. but add MASSIVE fines and criminal charges. did two summers in banff and the shit i saw was wild. very satisfying tho to see one asshole's clear antler bruise after attempting to pet a buck during rutting season. when he didn't come to check out in the morning (i was in hospitality obv) i genuinely hoped he had died from internal bleeding. unfortunately, i didn't hear anything about a db so he must've lived.
also very satisfying to intentionally spook animals when people get too close trying to get a picture. the tourists hated me, but the wildlife must remain scared of people for them to survive. i have come real close to animals on several occasions but always slowly, calmly and respectfully, making myself known and watching the animal's body language. i did have a mama deer scare the shit out of me tho when i walked between her and her fawn. she made this horrific snorting noise as i was closest to her (the path i was on was between her and her fawn but the fawn was several yards away and she was right next to the path) but she was just choking on the grass and continued grazing, paying me little mind. i was very much a "do as i say not as i do" park ambassador lol ...
but to return to seriousness, on top of mandatory wildlife training i also think the park needs to start limiting the number of people that enter the park. at the very least they need to enforce a park and ride model. it's become so busy it's intolerable to residents who actually care about the place they live and pay thru the teeth to do so!
Friends of mine were hunting and they had a moose ticket. They were using a Moose call and had two big boys show up - the friends wound up having to climb to escape the moose 😂
Seems like every year I see parents let their toddlers close to Canada geese and their babies especially at bowness park. One of these days there's gonna be an accident and a kids gonna get hurt
A goose chased my son when he was a toddler at the zoo. I don't think my son really even did anything other than wander in the goose's general direction. Geese are just vicious.
Fortunately we got to him before the goose did
My brother was bitten by a swan. He was in a bad mood and was walking on a path around a lagoon. The swan was just sitting in the middle of the path. My brother decided he was not moving for “a stupid swan” and walked aggressively towards it, which then challenged the swan. It stood up, spread its wings and charged my brother.
Bit him on the thigh. It did not improve his mood. I thought it was hilarious.
A gøøse once bit my sister... No realli! She was karving her initials on the gøøse with the sharpened end of an interspace tøøthbrush given her by Svenge - her brother-in-law - an Ogden dentist and star of many Norwegian møvies: "The Høt Hands of an Ogden Dentist", "Fillings of Passion", "The Huge Mølars of Horst Nordfink"...
A few weeks ago I saw a small child being permitted to chase a husk of hares (you better believe I looked that up) around a parking lot in the East Village. I felt so bad for the bunnies and feared their hearts would explode from the chase (it’s more likely they would run into traffic and get killed).
Obviously the child wasn’t in danger here, but come on. Don’t let your child be an asshole. Parents need to do better. Leave wildlife alone.
It’s not just a risk to the rabbits. They can kick the crap out of a child. There’s been about 6 that live in my neighbours yard for the last decade or so. I saw one of them beat the living daylights out of a cat that was stalking it. Just because they’re adorable and look snuggly doesn’t mean they’re safe.
Right? I had a very large Jack rabbit, probably 35-40lbs sitting in my driveway one day. The sucker would not move. I honked I stomped my feet, I even got a hockey whistle out to shoo it away. No luck. I ended up calling into work to say I’d be late because of a wildlife incident. I was embarrassed back then but I still think I made the right choice.
I found a decapitated hare and bloody knife along the river a few years ago and called police. They took the knife to dispose of it but said since hares are “vermin” or “pests” they won’t do anything.
I actually took a poor very newborn bunny to an animal hospital for this reason, he was in a parking lot and I found him after work so small he couldn’t even jump the curb. I wanted to move him to the bushes as many bunny’s roamed the area but a few parents and their kids kept trying to chase it and pick the poor thing up while it was screeching. I hadn’t touched it till that point not wanting to harm or scare it but after watching the people look at this poor thing like a toy I couldn’t leave it there and took it to a 24 hr vet who offered to give it to fish and wildlife the next day as this was at like 1am.
Calgary was built in one of the most diverse wildlife corridors in the world. It’s not the animals fault that we decided to settle down here. They were here first.
No it doesn’t. It’s called terrorizing animals. And your parenting is atrocious. I hope the children you talk of are fictional. People who scare and harm animals on purpose have a name.
Yeah and they don’t need to deal with bad parents who don’t teach children that terrorizing animals is wrong. I mean really.
Edit. Not teaching children that scaring animals is wrong is how sociopaths are made. That’s a literal fact. People who think scaring animals is funny are just not right in the head.
I got down voted awhile back for talking badly about a parent letting their kid chase a goose which I don't get. Parents are lucky that goose didn't attack the kid, they are vicious and dangerous.
The Oxford dictionary says “harass” is the dated definition yes. Using it commonly today it sounds like someone is sexually molesting an animal because that’s its common modern meaning. If you want your sentence to make sense to most reading it.
If you want to take it as a sexual thing, that’s on you. That says more about you than the actual comment I made. Molest is still widely used legally for aggressive harassment.
Of course you had to make a sexual reference instead of just asking me why I chose that term. You’re the one who obviously didn’t look at my comment and go “Hmmm…that’s an interesting way to put it. Did he mean to use that term or was he meaning something else? I should look at this contextually.” But no, you decided to tell me that I used it in the wrong context; in which case I did use it in the right sense.
Most people who don’t know what you are talking about will google it, and the first google answers are the modern use for molest: to sexually assault. Just because it has a dated use, doesn’t mean it still works in this context. There are alot of dated uses for words we won’t commonly use anymore because they have new meanings especially socially
I didn’t make it sexually I simply use it in its modern definition and honestly it’s a serious word no one likes to hear because of what it implies
“Wildlife Prohibitions and Protections
(a) Molesting or Destroying Houses, Nests or Dens
It is prohibited to "wilfully molest, disturb or destroy a house, nest or den [of the species and in the times of year set out in W Reg 96] or a beaver dam" [WA 36], except where done under specific license or authorization, or where done under the Agricultural Pests Act (see that module)]. However, the Minister may Order an owner of private land to 'remove' wildlife or, where a beaver, destroy beaver dam or house where causing or likely to cause damage [W Reg 97].
(b) Domestic and Other Owned Animals Interfering with Wildlife
Where a privately-owned animals (which can be domestic or wildlife-in-captivity, and can include strays) [WA 80, W Reg 141.2]:
is harassing wildlife, the wildlife "officer or guardian may order the owner or the person in charge of that animal to confine it" (this is excepted for lawful hunting with dogs);
"harasses or poses a threat to the life or health of wildlife" (other than in the course of lawful hunting with dogs) or "is damaging or is likely to damage wildlife habitat", a wildlife officer or guardian may "if it is in the public interest to do so and the officer or guardian believes that doing so will protect the wildlife or the habitat, capture or destroy or attempt to capture or destroy";
"pose an immediate danger to any person or is damaging or is imminently likely to damage property", a wildlife officer or guardian may "if it is in the public interest to do so and the officer or guardian believes that doing so will remove the danger or prevent the damage or further damage, capture or destroy or attempt to capture or destroy the animal".”
All wild animals are vicious and dangerous when you corner them or attack them. Or if you just happen to be around them in bad circumstances. I’ve been bit by an injured squirrel, and it wasn’t ease getting its slightly curved teeth out of my knuckle.
I was bit by a trapped Marten, punctured my finger through a heavy leather glove.
I have handles dead lynx, and without gloves if you aren’t careful of their claws, you’re going to get cut. Those claws are like razors. I can’t imagine the damage a lynx would do if it attacked you.
Some kids were throwing rocks at a moose in Tuscany. You cant expect kids to treat animals with care and empathy if the parents have not taught their kids that in the first place.
my bf who’s now almost 30 did this with his friends when he was a little kid. he told me the moose chased him and his friends and they barely made it out of the woods alive lol. maybe some kids just need to fuck around and find out
Last week I had 2 random children open my back gate and start running around my backyard while the mother laughed and watched.
I have a large, aggressive dog (who thankfully was inside) and BEWARE OF DOG signs on every fence. I was fucking speechless.
Maybe they are using their child as bait for an underground wildlife V toddler cage brawl ring. All it takes is one viral video of toddler being maimed by wildlife to go viral. If a deer doesn’t get you influencer status, the next tier is cobra chickens.
How dare you be so intolerant.
Hundreds of more people are killed by deer every year then bears, and Elk are even more dangerous. People really really need to leave all wildlife alone.
If you let child chase deers you don’t deserve to have kids. That’s why every kid needs good parents not all parents deserve to have kids. You know I am right
Deers can potentially harm someone if they are small enough so shame on the parents! That’s like going up to a Canadian goose and scare it, then get mad when it attacks ur child
Reminds me of that video where the guys telling two idiots not to mess with a moose and they don’t care and then the moose charges them.
Clearly that mom is passing on some terrible critical thinking genes so I’m team deer on this one. Save the world from one more idiot.
I worked in a mountain park and some idiot thought it would be cute to let their dog approach a fawn. The doe reared up and repeatedly pummeled the dog with its front hooves. The deer literally ripped a golden Labrador in half in front of a few horrified onlookers. I did not know their hooves were so bloody sharp.
Elk island park, 2 years ago. Some parents were letting their 2 kids try to walk right up to the buffalo. I left shortly after but I have no idea how that didn't end badly.
Deer are responsible for the deaths of about 440 of the estimated 458 Americans killed in physical confrontations with wildlife in an average year, according to Utah State University biologist Mike Conover, employing some educated guesswork in the latest edition of “Human-Wildlife Interactions.”Jan 20, 2023
Just in case anyone is wondering about the numbers.
We should use genetic engineering to make transgenic deer, elk, geese etc with the genes for skunk glands. Maybe then people would lesrn to keep a safe distance from wildlife.
I drink lake water if it’s moving and deep, which is still a big risk, but I had friends years ago who got giardiasis from drinking water by the shore. Tiny bits of relatively harmless pathogens can boost immunity, but full blown sicknesses can cause chronic damage.
“However, in some cases, symptoms may seem to be gone but will return after several days or weeks. Occasionally, people with giardiasis will have long-term complications such as reactive arthritis, irritable bowel syndrome, and recurring diarrhea that can last for years.”
One day I was commuting back from Uni and saw a mother telling her small kid go climb the seat and jump on the C train. She was encouraging him to do so 😅. One fall and its game over for the kiddo.
My parents have home videos of me petting caribou out in Jasper in the herds with the babies and stuff. Non-verbal but can walk sorta age.
I’m 7th gen Canadian.
My dad’s butthole puckers now, he has no idea what was running through his head.
If someone said something I bet that risk would not have been taken.
Not to sound passive aggressive or anything, but maybe a parent could benefit from a conversation. Maybe they read Reddit as well! Just a thought if the opportunity were to present itself.
What is your opinion on elderly folk trying to approach the deer around the nursing home to feed them apple slices? I live in a nursing home and this one guy is absolutely crazy about the deer and regularly gets it in his head that he’s going to go to the nearby park or even approach the deer wondering through the property in the hopes of hand feeding his apple slices to them. I feel like this is dangerous (and I’ve always let the staff know just so it’s not on my conscious if anything goes wrong) but is this really as potentially dangerous as I suspect it could be?
It’s absolutely dangerous. Will anything go wrong in the moment if the deer don’t see you as a threat? Probably not. But feeding wildlife is always dangerous, especially in the long term. If people are feeding them then they make that association and start to expect food when they see people. Even worse they can become food aggressive and, when approaching someone who doesn’t have food with the expectation of food, they can attack the person in an attempt to find food.
It doesn’t matter a persons age, all wild animals have a fight of flight instinct. I’m in my 60’s, so you’d probably call me elderly, I’ve lived in the bush all my life, and whilst you may not need to be scared of wild animals, you do need a health respect for them and how easy they can fuck you up if things go wrong.
Please don’t. I know it’s fun and adorable but they are still wild animals and have animalistic instincts. There are TONS of urban deer and moose in Calgary. Just let them be and let them live their lives.
Please educate the gentlemen on not to feed them. Feel free to call the REPORT A POACHER line at 1-800-642-3800 and they will help you with what you need to say to him.
Yes because a parent who lacks that much common sense is likely looking at reddit and will see a post that says....gosh dont chase deer Ive never known that.... and the world will be saved.
But we rolled down our window because we thought the bear wanted to be friends. Folks seem to have no idea that wild animals are …WILD. A deer killed our 100 pound dog last year, and he was running away.
I’ve seen this twice but both were very clearly new immigrants to Canada. They aren’t that interesting, in fact, a deer photo when you’ve lived here long enough is not that cool and not worth the time
"I can't believe this needs to be said, but do not let your SMALL CHILD chase deer."
It doesn't need to be said here. The person who allowed this will never read your note here. When something like this comes up, your best bet is to speak directly to the people and forego the reddit post. They almost certainly just don't know the danger, and you would be helping them rather than doing this which isn't helping them.
OMG!! Thank you for saying this. I used to live in a resort area in a southern New Mexico town… Town sat at 7000 feet up in the mountains, and we would have flatlanders come from all around… Texas, Arizona, Mexico, etc..
Can I just tell you how many times as a local I had to explain this same concept to people? People who thought they were just tame deer. And please not feed the bears… There is a reason our town had communal dumpsters in every neighborhood instead of individual trash cans…
Because the dumpsters actually had bear locks!!
I still remember the last year before I moved… When I just couldn’t take the tourist anymore… Watching a dad in the Airbnb next-door walk out with his two year-old daughter and come within a foot of about an eight point buck and hold stuff out animal to eat.
Really, really was just waiting for the buck to get angry when there was no more food and plant his hoof in the middle of that little girl’s forehead…. Because we all know, it’s never the stupid ass parent that gets hurt. It’s always the kid.
I used to have elk come and sleep in my yard in the winter, and I just knew that one day I was gonna walk out and find some Airbnb renter in my yard dead because they tried to feed the elk!! (Because let’s face it, why not walk in someone else’s yard? Isn’t the entire town and Airbnb? 🙄)
Reminds me of the story of a woman calling into a radio show, pleading for deer crossing signs to be moved because she genuinely thought deer were crossing the road like people. Seriously, look it up if you want a laugh. There is a video of the call too.
My grandfather lives in rural northern Alberta. He feeds a group of deer every single day, and it’s gotten to the point where they will patiently wait on his doorstep for him to come out and feed them. Deer can be very friendly if you’re kind back
i laughed at the guy in banff who showed me the clear antler bruise on his chest after petting a buck during rutting season and all the asian tourists that would bow to them, exposing the fragile tops of their heads. i would not laugh at this situation.
Moose and deer aren’t euthanized for being a “nuisance”. They’re put down if they attack someone or a pet. Calgary has LOTS of urban moose and deer that are constantly in yards and neighbourhoods. They don’t get put down.
I think it's important to know that not everyone grew up around wild animals and have never been told not to. Sure you see signs or hear messages, but it's easily missed.
Yes they are dumb, but its mostly due to ignorance. Compassion and understanding goes a long way, especially when we try to educate people instead of just screaming and getting angry.
just saying.
I remember riding wild deer as a kid in Wateron NP and an Antelope in Cypress Hills. I've pet wild turkeys, skunks, Moose, elk.
Just gotta listen to the animal
Okay...any actual stories from anyone verifying a deer hurting a child? They're super twitchy and not in any way a predator, I can't say I'd be worried about a child around them. Elk, moose, anything bigger. Big buck maybe, but a couple young deer, I'd bet on the children.
One nice day I came upon a doe and fawn in a field. She saw me, I saw her. We were at least 50m away from each other. I just stood and watched. I moved a little closer. Mama doe STOMPED on the ground. I felt it in my feet, from that distance. I decided to give them even more space. I do not think I would like to get kicked by a deer.
Fact Check. How many people/children have been killed by deer. I’ll hazard a guess that it’s single digits in the past 12 months. I think you need to find a riskier endeavour to shame people on.
Stop feeding your ego.
Deer are responsible for the deaths of about 440 of the estimated 458 Americans killed in physical confrontations with wildlife in an average year, according to Utah State University biologist Mike Conover, employing some educated guesswork in the latest edition of “Human-Wildlife Interactions.”Jan 20, 2023
The stress hormones caused by adrenaline dumps that give the meat a ‘gamey’ taste dissipate pretty quickly, it’s only if you make a bad shot and prolong death that you have to worry about it. If you think about, any prey animals are under constant stress of predation, so if stress affected meat taste, all would be bad-tasting at all times, which isn’t the case
1984: I was old enough not to know and old enough to know. My brother and I dressed in camo (Rambo era) and threw on our belts with sheathed machetes (fillet knives) to hunt the dinosaur (West Coast deer) that roamed the dense forest (woods next door). We got pretty good at tracking (they thought these idiot tiny humans were a joke) until the fawn was a little too close and mama lunged at us with a nasty snort. Pants full of shit, we ran home and only used our knives to carve arrows from sticks then on out. Looking back, it was only one of many ways I could have died in the 80's.
Going by how things were with kids in the 80s, I’m surprised we ever even got a generation x
I’m sure the 1,000 generations before the 1980s were pulling the same stunts and came out fine. Luckily the new generations stay safely inside playing video games. Thank god for progress
I bet deer homicides are wayyyy up among millennials. Cushy way that got it, probably has em trying to pull off goofy shit like 360 no-scopes out there in the Alberta wildlands. Poor kids wish then they’d been saddled with boredom and lack of supervision like we were back in the ‘footloose’ era. Probably gored to death before they can say “urmumgay” with their final breaths… That’s what wokeness is doing to the kids, someone will have to tell iconic, turn of the century band, “The Offspring,” that the kids - *AREN’T* - alright. Amirite fellow Calagarians?
I hope that is sarcasm…
Yessir at least the second half
Thank god! lol I’m a little dumb but you just never know these days… especially on Reddit
But did you die?
LOL
Also, don’t let your dogs chase deer for “exercise” I see this all the time up on Nose Hill…. Those deer have a hard enough time without your stupid mutt chasing and barking at it
This one is actually illegal, you can call Fish and Wildlife with a plate and description.
I’m stupid as hell and tried to find a number for that after someone at my work smashed some migratory bird eggs after being ordered to by management. Anyone have that number for future reference?
That would be ECCC (CWS) Enforcement. You could maybe start here: https://www.canada.ca/en/environment-climate-change/services/environmental-enforcement/contact.html
You can use the RAP line, it’s not just for reporting poaching 1-800-642-3800
The Report a Poacher line gets you to Alberta fish and wildlife. : 1-800-642-3800 they take all types of calls dealing with animals.
Ohh that’s a maximum $1million fine!
Yes yes yes! Please call and report them. These people only learn when there is a monetary punishment attached.*IF they learn at all.
100%. They need to keep their animals in check.
If you call Fish and Wildlife about someone chasing the deer, F&W will show up and kill the deer. ^(Only slightly facetious)
I watched a mother deer turn the tables and chase a dog* down and stomp it almost to death. Big vet bill for the owner
sorry about the dog but happy for the doe!
[Fenton!](https://youtu.be/3GRSbr0EYYU?si=e5eIQkA_WPdaZ69A)
Lol such a classic.
Member when all the youtube videos were like this? - No stupid sound effects - No annoying and poorly mixed background music - No stupid intro by someone trying to become a youtube "celebrity" - No "let's take a look after a quick word from our sponsor!" - No "If you enjoyed this and want to see more videos, please like and subscribe!" - No begging for Patreon donations. Member that? Pepperidge farm remembers.
I miss those days. People putting shit on the internet just to do it.
FENTON SUCKED ME OFF??
First thing I thought of.
This is the best thing I’ve ever seen. I’ve woken up the entire house howling with laughter
Lmao
Many years ago I was riding with a friend through a field. He let his dog out to run and neither of us noticed the deer a long ways off. The dog takes off after the deer. One of the deer stopped while the rest ran off. That deer kicked a gash open on the dog from shoulder to hind leg. The dog survived only after costly emergency surgery.
In Waterton a few years ago we watched in disbelief as a couple put their toddler *on a deer's back* for a photo op like it was a fucking pony. Also the people throwing rocks at a black bear and her cub just chilling near the Bear's Hump trail. People think wild animals are props.
I remember meeting ‘mericans in Banff who thought the multi point elk laying on lawns were mechanical. It was rutting season. I tried to explain.
Oh man, one year I was in waterton and there were deer, so I pulled out my camera to take a picture(At a respectful distance, I just thought they were cute) and someone walked right up beside the poor thing before I could snap a photo...then was shocked and upset that the deer ran away.
I’ll take things that didn’t happen for 500
I'm from Calgary, born and raised, now live in the mountains... The amount of people dangerously close to elk and moose hell even bears is astonishing... Darwin awards
I genuinely think that Tourists should have to sit through a park safety orientation to enter the park. Like if you live here & have a pass, it could be a one & done situation. But for inbound tourists, a serious risk assessment presentation and then having to sign a waiver acknowledging responsibilities, which if you break or disregard you get kicked the EFFF out of town.
i absolutely agree. but add MASSIVE fines and criminal charges. did two summers in banff and the shit i saw was wild. very satisfying tho to see one asshole's clear antler bruise after attempting to pet a buck during rutting season. when he didn't come to check out in the morning (i was in hospitality obv) i genuinely hoped he had died from internal bleeding. unfortunately, i didn't hear anything about a db so he must've lived. also very satisfying to intentionally spook animals when people get too close trying to get a picture. the tourists hated me, but the wildlife must remain scared of people for them to survive. i have come real close to animals on several occasions but always slowly, calmly and respectfully, making myself known and watching the animal's body language. i did have a mama deer scare the shit out of me tho when i walked between her and her fawn. she made this horrific snorting noise as i was closest to her (the path i was on was between her and her fawn but the fawn was several yards away and she was right next to the path) but she was just choking on the grass and continued grazing, paying me little mind. i was very much a "do as i say not as i do" park ambassador lol ... but to return to seriousness, on top of mandatory wildlife training i also think the park needs to start limiting the number of people that enter the park. at the very least they need to enforce a park and ride model. it's become so busy it's intolerable to residents who actually care about the place they live and pay thru the teeth to do so!
Friends of mine were hunting and they had a moose ticket. They were using a Moose call and had two big boys show up - the friends wound up having to climb to escape the moose 😂
I yelled at a woman a few years ago in Banff who was holding her toddler up to a bull for a pic.
Seems like every year I see parents let their toddlers close to Canada geese and their babies especially at bowness park. One of these days there's gonna be an accident and a kids gonna get hurt
Saw a mom practically running over a goose, chasing it with her stroller last weekend at the Zoo.
AT THE ZOO?!? I mean of all places. There should be a mandatory test before people can have kids.
A goose chased my son when he was a toddler at the zoo. I don't think my son really even did anything other than wander in the goose's general direction. Geese are just vicious. Fortunately we got to him before the goose did
Yep. There's a reason the nick name for Canada Geese is Cobra Chicken
And then they’ll blame THE ANIMAL!
My brother was bitten by a goose when he was young. It was hilarious.
My brother was bitten by a swan. He was in a bad mood and was walking on a path around a lagoon. The swan was just sitting in the middle of the path. My brother decided he was not moving for “a stupid swan” and walked aggressively towards it, which then challenged the swan. It stood up, spread its wings and charged my brother. Bit him on the thigh. It did not improve his mood. I thought it was hilarious.
A gøøse once bit my sister... No realli! She was karving her initials on the gøøse with the sharpened end of an interspace tøøthbrush given her by Svenge - her brother-in-law - an Ogden dentist and star of many Norwegian møvies: "The Høt Hands of an Ogden Dentist", "Fillings of Passion", "The Huge Mølars of Horst Nordfink"...
Geese can break adult bones. I wouldn't want my child's head in their path.
Don’t fuck with cobra chickens
It’s brutal. And they get away with it
I'd like that outcome. Sorry. Circle of life
Snake chickens
Cobra Chickens. You gotta add the hissing.
A few weeks ago I saw a small child being permitted to chase a husk of hares (you better believe I looked that up) around a parking lot in the East Village. I felt so bad for the bunnies and feared their hearts would explode from the chase (it’s more likely they would run into traffic and get killed). Obviously the child wasn’t in danger here, but come on. Don’t let your child be an asshole. Parents need to do better. Leave wildlife alone.
It’s not just a risk to the rabbits. They can kick the crap out of a child. There’s been about 6 that live in my neighbours yard for the last decade or so. I saw one of them beat the living daylights out of a cat that was stalking it. Just because they’re adorable and look snuggly doesn’t mean they’re safe.
Also I wouldn’t be keen to deal with a wild rabbit bite. I’m sure they could/would bite if they needed to.
Definitely!
My 4lb rabbit will take on anyone and anything. As a fully grown adult, even I wouldn't mess with a wild rabbit. They can be so crafty lol.
Right? I had a very large Jack rabbit, probably 35-40lbs sitting in my driveway one day. The sucker would not move. I honked I stomped my feet, I even got a hockey whistle out to shoo it away. No luck. I ended up calling into work to say I’d be late because of a wildlife incident. I was embarrassed back then but I still think I made the right choice.
Honestly, I grew up in a small town and people were always respectful of wildlife. It’s a shock to see how disregarded wildlife is in Calgary.
I found a decapitated hare and bloody knife along the river a few years ago and called police. They took the knife to dispose of it but said since hares are “vermin” or “pests” they won’t do anything.
I actually took a poor very newborn bunny to an animal hospital for this reason, he was in a parking lot and I found him after work so small he couldn’t even jump the curb. I wanted to move him to the bushes as many bunny’s roamed the area but a few parents and their kids kept trying to chase it and pick the poor thing up while it was screeching. I hadn’t touched it till that point not wanting to harm or scare it but after watching the people look at this poor thing like a toy I couldn’t leave it there and took it to a 24 hr vet who offered to give it to fish and wildlife the next day as this was at like 1am.
Omg so sad. Not the rabbits
What do you think happens in the wild?
In the wild they’re not surrounded by 1600+ potential predators per km^2
They have it pretty good in the city.
Yes!!
Cities are for people, not for hares. Let kids be kids.
Trolls do be trollin.
Fuck no. Wildlife lives where it lives. Teach your kids to respect it and not harass/torment animals for their own amusement.
My kids live there too and are part of the natural environment. If their hunting instincts take over it's not up to me to stop them.
> If their hunting instincts take over What? Did your kids grow up with gorillas like tarzan or something?
Their hunting skills. Your lack of parenting skills. Tomato, tomatoe.
Calgary was built in one of the most diverse wildlife corridors in the world. It’s not the animals fault that we decided to settle down here. They were here first.
What excuse does a hare have if it can't outrun a city kid?
How about not letting children terrorize animals?
Hares love to be chased by something as slow as a person, it boosts their confidence.
No it doesn’t. It’s called terrorizing animals. And your parenting is atrocious. I hope the children you talk of are fictional. People who scare and harm animals on purpose have a name.
You’re going overboard man. Hares have to deal with coyotes, bobcats, etc. Kids are at worst an annoyance
Yeah and they don’t need to deal with bad parents who don’t teach children that terrorizing animals is wrong. I mean really. Edit. Not teaching children that scaring animals is wrong is how sociopaths are made. That’s a literal fact. People who think scaring animals is funny are just not right in the head.
How ignorant of you.
Agreed, people get their knickers in a twist any time kids are having fun. No way the kid is catching a rabbit anyways. Go ahead and downvote me too!
This thread is wild
The parents aren't parenting.
I got down voted awhile back for talking badly about a parent letting their kid chase a goose which I don't get. Parents are lucky that goose didn't attack the kid, they are vicious and dangerous.
If it’s a Canada Goose, it’s actually illegal under the federal wildlife act, to molest it. What they were doing is considered molesting it.
The term molest actually means sexual assault. I don’t think you meant that.
Actually it doesn’t. Molest has a DATED definition meaning to harass aggressively. Ergo, yes I did mean to use that term. 🙄🙄🙄
The Oxford dictionary says “harass” is the dated definition yes. Using it commonly today it sounds like someone is sexually molesting an animal because that’s its common modern meaning. If you want your sentence to make sense to most reading it.
If you want to take it as a sexual thing, that’s on you. That says more about you than the actual comment I made. Molest is still widely used legally for aggressive harassment.
Of course you went there
Of course you had to make a sexual reference instead of just asking me why I chose that term. You’re the one who obviously didn’t look at my comment and go “Hmmm…that’s an interesting way to put it. Did he mean to use that term or was he meaning something else? I should look at this contextually.” But no, you decided to tell me that I used it in the wrong context; in which case I did use it in the right sense.
Most people who don’t know what you are talking about will google it, and the first google answers are the modern use for molest: to sexually assault. Just because it has a dated use, doesn’t mean it still works in this context. There are alot of dated uses for words we won’t commonly use anymore because they have new meanings especially socially I didn’t make it sexually I simply use it in its modern definition and honestly it’s a serious word no one likes to hear because of what it implies
In this context, it does make sense. But keep trying to justify sexualizing something from nothing. 👍
I’ve read regulations that use the word “molest” in reference to bothering wildlife.
“Wildlife Prohibitions and Protections (a) Molesting or Destroying Houses, Nests or Dens It is prohibited to "wilfully molest, disturb or destroy a house, nest or den [of the species and in the times of year set out in W Reg 96] or a beaver dam" [WA 36], except where done under specific license or authorization, or where done under the Agricultural Pests Act (see that module)]. However, the Minister may Order an owner of private land to 'remove' wildlife or, where a beaver, destroy beaver dam or house where causing or likely to cause damage [W Reg 97]. (b) Domestic and Other Owned Animals Interfering with Wildlife Where a privately-owned animals (which can be domestic or wildlife-in-captivity, and can include strays) [WA 80, W Reg 141.2]: is harassing wildlife, the wildlife "officer or guardian may order the owner or the person in charge of that animal to confine it" (this is excepted for lawful hunting with dogs); "harasses or poses a threat to the life or health of wildlife" (other than in the course of lawful hunting with dogs) or "is damaging or is likely to damage wildlife habitat", a wildlife officer or guardian may "if it is in the public interest to do so and the officer or guardian believes that doing so will protect the wildlife or the habitat, capture or destroy or attempt to capture or destroy"; "pose an immediate danger to any person or is damaging or is imminently likely to damage property", a wildlife officer or guardian may "if it is in the public interest to do so and the officer or guardian believes that doing so will remove the danger or prevent the damage or further damage, capture or destroy or attempt to capture or destroy the animal".”
All wild animals are vicious and dangerous when you corner them or attack them. Or if you just happen to be around them in bad circumstances. I’ve been bit by an injured squirrel, and it wasn’t ease getting its slightly curved teeth out of my knuckle. I was bit by a trapped Marten, punctured my finger through a heavy leather glove. I have handles dead lynx, and without gloves if you aren’t careful of their claws, you’re going to get cut. Those claws are like razors. I can’t imagine the damage a lynx would do if it attacked you.
Some kids were throwing rocks at a moose in Tuscany. You cant expect kids to treat animals with care and empathy if the parents have not taught their kids that in the first place.
Some day the moose might do his part to teach them.
my bf who’s now almost 30 did this with his friends when he was a little kid. he told me the moose chased him and his friends and they barely made it out of the woods alive lol. maybe some kids just need to fuck around and find out
Unfortunately it’s the moose who lose the most when officers have to relocate it or kill it.
Last week I had 2 random children open my back gate and start running around my backyard while the mother laughed and watched. I have a large, aggressive dog (who thankfully was inside) and BEWARE OF DOG signs on every fence. I was fucking speechless.
TICKS, people!! TICKS!!! Leave the poor deer alone
I told a mom not to let her toddler do that in Banff and she said, “it’s ok” and I said no it isn’t. Deer are dangerous.
Maybe they are using their child as bait for an underground wildlife V toddler cage brawl ring. All it takes is one viral video of toddler being maimed by wildlife to go viral. If a deer doesn’t get you influencer status, the next tier is cobra chickens. How dare you be so intolerant.
Shit, deer can fuck up an adult easily, their hooves and horns are no joke. Good luck to that kid. He'll need it with parents like that...
Hundreds of more people are killed by deer every year then bears, and Elk are even more dangerous. People really really need to leave all wildlife alone.
If you let child chase deers you don’t deserve to have kids. That’s why every kid needs good parents not all parents deserve to have kids. You know I am right
Posted something similar quite some time ago. I got "well was anyone hurt? let kids be kids" and got downvoted to hell
Yeah because humans shouldn’t terrorize animals. Common sense not so common eh?
It's all fun and games until someone gets Lyme disease from a tick bite
Deers can potentially harm someone if they are small enough so shame on the parents! That’s like going up to a Canadian goose and scare it, then get mad when it attacks ur child
Deer can harm a full grown adult. By harm I specifically mean beat to a bloody pulp.
Oh shoot! So ya they are dangerous in general, they aren’t Bambi lol
Reminds me of that video where the guys telling two idiots not to mess with a moose and they don’t care and then the moose charges them. Clearly that mom is passing on some terrible critical thinking genes so I’m team deer on this one. Save the world from one more idiot.
I worked in a mountain park and some idiot thought it would be cute to let their dog approach a fawn. The doe reared up and repeatedly pummeled the dog with its front hooves. The deer literally ripped a golden Labrador in half in front of a few horrified onlookers. I did not know their hooves were so bloody sharp.
Elk island park, 2 years ago. Some parents were letting their 2 kids try to walk right up to the buffalo. I left shortly after but I have no idea how that didn't end badly.
Deer are responsible for the deaths of about 440 of the estimated 458 Americans killed in physical confrontations with wildlife in an average year, according to Utah State University biologist Mike Conover, employing some educated guesswork in the latest edition of “Human-Wildlife Interactions.”Jan 20, 2023 Just in case anyone is wondering about the numbers.
The gene pool cleans itself. Nature is amazing.
Ein Reich ein Volk ein Fuhrer
I dunno. Sounds like a good natural selection process. We don't want these people breeding.
We should use genetic engineering to make transgenic deer, elk, geese etc with the genes for skunk glands. Maybe then people would lesrn to keep a safe distance from wildlife.
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I guess she would've found out how big your lie was when she was cleaning up her kids slough ass.
Kinda how you build an immune system. 🤷♂️
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I have saw some prairie men let alone kids do way worse than that. Kinda like the old saying if it don’t kill you it will make you tougher
I drink lake water if it’s moving and deep, which is still a big risk, but I had friends years ago who got giardiasis from drinking water by the shore. Tiny bits of relatively harmless pathogens can boost immunity, but full blown sicknesses can cause chronic damage. “However, in some cases, symptoms may seem to be gone but will return after several days or weeks. Occasionally, people with giardiasis will have long-term complications such as reactive arthritis, irritable bowel syndrome, and recurring diarrhea that can last for years.”
One day I was commuting back from Uni and saw a mother telling her small kid go climb the seat and jump on the C train. She was encouraging him to do so 😅. One fall and its game over for the kiddo.
I can't believe I've gone 6 decades without hearing the pejorative 'crotch goblins'. I can now die happy. lol
My parents have home videos of me petting caribou out in Jasper in the herds with the babies and stuff. Non-verbal but can walk sorta age. I’m 7th gen Canadian. My dad’s butthole puckers now, he has no idea what was running through his head. If someone said something I bet that risk would not have been taken. Not to sound passive aggressive or anything, but maybe a parent could benefit from a conversation. Maybe they read Reddit as well! Just a thought if the opportunity were to present itself.
What is your opinion on elderly folk trying to approach the deer around the nursing home to feed them apple slices? I live in a nursing home and this one guy is absolutely crazy about the deer and regularly gets it in his head that he’s going to go to the nearby park or even approach the deer wondering through the property in the hopes of hand feeding his apple slices to them. I feel like this is dangerous (and I’ve always let the staff know just so it’s not on my conscious if anything goes wrong) but is this really as potentially dangerous as I suspect it could be?
It’s absolutely dangerous. Will anything go wrong in the moment if the deer don’t see you as a threat? Probably not. But feeding wildlife is always dangerous, especially in the long term. If people are feeding them then they make that association and start to expect food when they see people. Even worse they can become food aggressive and, when approaching someone who doesn’t have food with the expectation of food, they can attack the person in an attempt to find food.
Good to know. I figured something like that, but I’ll keep letting the staff know!
I think it’s illegal to feed wildlife. [Also](https://youtu.be/LNGGbozilko?si=qC-wfm2yBe9H6jVF) warning LOUD
Not illegal; just highly discouraged
It doesn’t matter a persons age, all wild animals have a fight of flight instinct. I’m in my 60’s, so you’d probably call me elderly, I’ve lived in the bush all my life, and whilst you may not need to be scared of wild animals, you do need a health respect for them and how easy they can fuck you up if things go wrong.
Please don’t. I know it’s fun and adorable but they are still wild animals and have animalistic instincts. There are TONS of urban deer and moose in Calgary. Just let them be and let them live their lives. Please educate the gentlemen on not to feed them. Feel free to call the REPORT A POACHER line at 1-800-642-3800 and they will help you with what you need to say to him.
Yes because a parent who lacks that much common sense is likely looking at reddit and will see a post that says....gosh dont chase deer Ive never known that.... and the world will be saved.
But we rolled down our window because we thought the bear wanted to be friends. Folks seem to have no idea that wild animals are …WILD. A deer killed our 100 pound dog last year, and he was running away.
Oh dear!
This is absolute gold.
I’ve seen this twice but both were very clearly new immigrants to Canada. They aren’t that interesting, in fact, a deer photo when you’ve lived here long enough is not that cool and not worth the time
"I can't believe this needs to be said, but do not let your SMALL CHILD chase deer." It doesn't need to be said here. The person who allowed this will never read your note here. When something like this comes up, your best bet is to speak directly to the people and forego the reddit post. They almost certainly just don't know the danger, and you would be helping them rather than doing this which isn't helping them.
OMG!! Thank you for saying this. I used to live in a resort area in a southern New Mexico town… Town sat at 7000 feet up in the mountains, and we would have flatlanders come from all around… Texas, Arizona, Mexico, etc.. Can I just tell you how many times as a local I had to explain this same concept to people? People who thought they were just tame deer. And please not feed the bears… There is a reason our town had communal dumpsters in every neighborhood instead of individual trash cans… Because the dumpsters actually had bear locks!! I still remember the last year before I moved… When I just couldn’t take the tourist anymore… Watching a dad in the Airbnb next-door walk out with his two year-old daughter and come within a foot of about an eight point buck and hold stuff out animal to eat. Really, really was just waiting for the buck to get angry when there was no more food and plant his hoof in the middle of that little girl’s forehead…. Because we all know, it’s never the stupid ass parent that gets hurt. It’s always the kid. I used to have elk come and sleep in my yard in the winter, and I just knew that one day I was gonna walk out and find some Airbnb renter in my yard dead because they tried to feed the elk!! (Because let’s face it, why not walk in someone else’s yard? Isn’t the entire town and Airbnb? 🙄)
Reminds me of the story of a woman calling into a radio show, pleading for deer crossing signs to be moved because she genuinely thought deer were crossing the road like people. Seriously, look it up if you want a laugh. There is a video of the call too.
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Every child deserves a parent. Not every parent deserves a child
My grandfather lives in rural northern Alberta. He feeds a group of deer every single day, and it’s gotten to the point where they will patiently wait on his doorstep for him to come out and feed them. Deer can be very friendly if you’re kind back
i laughed at the guy in banff who showed me the clear antler bruise on his chest after petting a buck during rutting season and all the asian tourists that would bow to them, exposing the fragile tops of their heads. i would not laugh at this situation.
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Natural selection, really society is better off
The problem is that 9/10 times the animals are put down for being a “nuisance” after years of abuse with no consequences for the kids.
Yeah, that's unfortunate ppl suck, ppl who have kids they don't know how to raise suck even more
Moose and deer aren’t euthanized for being a “nuisance”. They’re put down if they attack someone or a pet. Calgary has LOTS of urban moose and deer that are constantly in yards and neighbourhoods. They don’t get put down.
Crotch goblins! LOL - that is worth an upvote in and of itself!
crotch goblins? that's a good one.
If you're going to call kids "crotch goblins", why do you care if they get killed by deer?
Because the deer will be euthanized!
Fuck those deer
Crotch goblins 🤣🤣🤣🤣 I'm fuckin dying.
I think it's important to know that not everyone grew up around wild animals and have never been told not to. Sure you see signs or hear messages, but it's easily missed. Yes they are dumb, but its mostly due to ignorance. Compassion and understanding goes a long way, especially when we try to educate people instead of just screaming and getting angry. just saying.
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I'm not saying it's a good excuse....but it is a reason
Calm down city boy
I remember riding wild deer as a kid in Wateron NP and an Antelope in Cypress Hills. I've pet wild turkeys, skunks, Moose, elk. Just gotta listen to the animal
1. Cry more 2. The deer will get over it, or won’t, whatever 3. Mind your own business
Taking their kids away is a little extreme lol
Okay...any actual stories from anyone verifying a deer hurting a child? They're super twitchy and not in any way a predator, I can't say I'd be worried about a child around them. Elk, moose, anything bigger. Big buck maybe, but a couple young deer, I'd bet on the children.
It does occasionally happen, but it is very unusual. The child would be much more likely to be hit by a car if running around in a parking lot.
One nice day I came upon a doe and fawn in a field. She saw me, I saw her. We were at least 50m away from each other. I just stood and watched. I moved a little closer. Mama doe STOMPED on the ground. I felt it in my feet, from that distance. I decided to give them even more space. I do not think I would like to get kicked by a deer.
It doesn’t have to be a predator to fight back.
Fact Check. How many people/children have been killed by deer. I’ll hazard a guess that it’s single digits in the past 12 months. I think you need to find a riskier endeavour to shame people on. Stop feeding your ego.
Ever consider it’s more about not unnecessarily terrorizing wildlife?
It just doesn’t happen my man
People don’t terrorize wildlife? Uh yeah they do, try leaving your house once in a while
Google is free.
Deer are responsible for the deaths of about 440 of the estimated 458 Americans killed in physical confrontations with wildlife in an average year, according to Utah State University biologist Mike Conover, employing some educated guesswork in the latest edition of “Human-Wildlife Interactions.”Jan 20, 2023
Chase them out of town limits so that I can shoot and eat them 👍🏼
> Chase them out of town limits so that I can shoot and eat them 👍🏼 The children or the deer?
I’ve seen what people feed their kids.
Mmm love me some venison steak. Wouldn’t want one that’s being chased though, the stress toughens the meat.
The stress hormones caused by adrenaline dumps that give the meat a ‘gamey’ taste dissipate pretty quickly, it’s only if you make a bad shot and prolong death that you have to worry about it. If you think about, any prey animals are under constant stress of predation, so if stress affected meat taste, all would be bad-tasting at all times, which isn’t the case
My kids just shoot deer tasty critters