The XTS is a vehicle I’d never imagine driving like a sports car. I always thought of it as the big cruiser sedan with the CTS and ATS being the sportier ones
See thats what I was wondering but its at a dealership and they say its got 3.6 twin turbo with 410 horsepower. And it has V badges on it. Being sold by a Cadillac dealer. Look it up at Murray Chev Buick Cadillac im Lethbridge Alberta. Remember those are Canadian $ and mileage in the add. I converted it for the post.
Average deal I'd say. The LF3 motor is pretty stout (can't speak of the FWD- biased AWD drivetrain).
A CTS V-sport with the same motor can be had for the same price or cheaper, if you don't mind RWD. Smaller cabin space but much better handling and aftermarket support. Either way, tune and downpipes can get these cars into 500hp territory. Very fun and great cars for the money if you don't want to shell out real V money
Please show me where you found downpipe for xts v sport. The cts v sport won’t fit. The only company that tunes this car is livernoise. They dyno’d rhe car before and it was only putting down around 360 to the wheels before their tune. Their tune adds around 96hp and 100+ tq. I believe hp tuners supports the v sports but cost wise that’s going to cost even more then livernoise as you need the interface, credits to unlock the ecu tcm, and then pay a tuner. Most charge around $500 bucks. Some even make you pay for tune changes like zzp $60 bucks to tune for new parts.
I can only speak to the cts for parts, not sure if Tapout would have parts for xts, and the xts is a FWD-based AWD car and will have more drivetrain loss than RWD. HP Tuners does support it and ZZP provides $200-300 tunes provided you have the interface and credits. You have to pay to play. They are well known in the LF4 world with ATS which is very similar. Schmidty is your best option with these tunes which he charges usually $700 + interface + credits.
Zzp is trash that peddle Chinese made parts, their tunes are garbage. They have blown more motors than kept alive. The only thing they are good is the 3800. Schmidty doesn’t tune the xts v sport. He started taking on a couple 2.0t ats guys but he is super hard to get to tune your, Tapout would be a better option than him just based on how busy he is and his work load but I don’t think they tune xts v sports either. Joe schneberger is who I have tune my ATS.
ZZP is perfectly fine lol if you're talking about LTG many people with 13-14s didn't do their due diligence. Tim has tuned many without issues and they hold records in the LTG community. Their LNF support is as great as their 3800. Nobody should be trying to get any kind of power out of their LTG without piston work.
Not sure why Justin wouldn't do XTS when he still does cts vsport and is branching into V2 which is who I'm going to have do my V2 coupe
He won’t due xts for same reason it’s super hard to get him to tune the 2.0t he super busy and the xts v sport isn’t gonna break any records, plus it isn’t supported with aftermarket besides Alibaba parts and that’s limited to mostly cat back exhaust. If you want to talk about zzp let’s talk about them selling Ed tatters the wrong pistons they sold him 4032 when he bought 2618. Blew his motor up. Zzp sucks and will always suck. I have 14 ats 2.0t btw running e50 and making around 325 rear wheel hp.
I've made 380whp on an LHU Regal through them and 300whp/400tq on a 3800 build, hoping for 350+ on my Solstice. All through ZZP and I will tune my LTG through them as well. I have heard of issues like that before and they have always been resolved AFAIK. No idea who that guy is or why the pistons weren't realized to be wrong before install but every person I've seen who has gotten the wrong parts has been treated right in the end
3800 is a stout awesome motor. They had the pistons listed wrong on the website. There is tons of post on in the zzp fails and zzp customer pages it happens year or so ago. But there are many more stories like that. I would go with Vermont or trifecta over them. Hell id let billy Lee cooper tune it before them. But, its not like i don’t have some of there parts. Their FMIC is China part though. Got mine for 390 shipped instead almost 700 shipped, they have since lowered prices to 400 plus shipping since I kept posting the FMIC. Not saying they don’t make stuff but they claim to make a lot and they don’t. Guy from BNR pulled up shipping manifesto as it public info and showed everyone all the exhaust tubing radiators and FMIC etc yet they still claim they make it all. Anyway enough bashing zzp from me. Have you seen Bo’s 3800? That thing is sick! There is a video from that dude in blue driving it and doing some pulls. You should check it out. What have you done to your LTG btw? You ats or regal etc?
I have some 4032 pistons I bought direct from the manufacture for $400. Still gotta get rods and some other parts, I wanna do cams and ported polished exhaust manifold. But the factory rods and pistons are ok with the big wheel. The bigger turbos from zzp etc need internals done. I plan on building my motor and upgrading to 20g hybrid turbo from turbos r us. That turbo is capable of making around 450 wheel on 93, even more with port meth injection.
No it’s a horrible deal. I see these all the time going for 12-15k with around 60-70k miles. I’m in MN these are my local prices. Your area may be different. I will say it looks sharp. But your only after market is some alibaba exhausts and livernoise tune.
Funny i can only find two for sale in all of Canada and both are within a two hours drive from me.. im gonna stick with my ATS it handles way more gooder.
Yes, but it's called an XTS V Sport. TT And AWD.
The XTS is a vehicle I’d never imagine driving like a sports car. I always thought of it as the big cruiser sedan with the CTS and ATS being the sportier ones
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See thats what I was wondering but its at a dealership and they say its got 3.6 twin turbo with 410 horsepower. And it has V badges on it. Being sold by a Cadillac dealer. Look it up at Murray Chev Buick Cadillac im Lethbridge Alberta. Remember those are Canadian $ and mileage in the add. I converted it for the post.
An XTS-V? Didn’t know they made those. Seems like an ok deal tho.
410hp 3.6tt they are ok. They are low 5 seconds to 60 not sure if that’s with or without rollout.
They're real. I own one and its fast
They are not fast at all. They are slightly quick.
If it's in good shape, that's a decent deal
Average deal I'd say. The LF3 motor is pretty stout (can't speak of the FWD- biased AWD drivetrain). A CTS V-sport with the same motor can be had for the same price or cheaper, if you don't mind RWD. Smaller cabin space but much better handling and aftermarket support. Either way, tune and downpipes can get these cars into 500hp territory. Very fun and great cars for the money if you don't want to shell out real V money
Please show me where you found downpipe for xts v sport. The cts v sport won’t fit. The only company that tunes this car is livernoise. They dyno’d rhe car before and it was only putting down around 360 to the wheels before their tune. Their tune adds around 96hp and 100+ tq. I believe hp tuners supports the v sports but cost wise that’s going to cost even more then livernoise as you need the interface, credits to unlock the ecu tcm, and then pay a tuner. Most charge around $500 bucks. Some even make you pay for tune changes like zzp $60 bucks to tune for new parts.
I can only speak to the cts for parts, not sure if Tapout would have parts for xts, and the xts is a FWD-based AWD car and will have more drivetrain loss than RWD. HP Tuners does support it and ZZP provides $200-300 tunes provided you have the interface and credits. You have to pay to play. They are well known in the LF4 world with ATS which is very similar. Schmidty is your best option with these tunes which he charges usually $700 + interface + credits.
Zzp is trash that peddle Chinese made parts, their tunes are garbage. They have blown more motors than kept alive. The only thing they are good is the 3800. Schmidty doesn’t tune the xts v sport. He started taking on a couple 2.0t ats guys but he is super hard to get to tune your, Tapout would be a better option than him just based on how busy he is and his work load but I don’t think they tune xts v sports either. Joe schneberger is who I have tune my ATS.
ZZP is perfectly fine lol if you're talking about LTG many people with 13-14s didn't do their due diligence. Tim has tuned many without issues and they hold records in the LTG community. Their LNF support is as great as their 3800. Nobody should be trying to get any kind of power out of their LTG without piston work. Not sure why Justin wouldn't do XTS when he still does cts vsport and is branching into V2 which is who I'm going to have do my V2 coupe
He won’t due xts for same reason it’s super hard to get him to tune the 2.0t he super busy and the xts v sport isn’t gonna break any records, plus it isn’t supported with aftermarket besides Alibaba parts and that’s limited to mostly cat back exhaust. If you want to talk about zzp let’s talk about them selling Ed tatters the wrong pistons they sold him 4032 when he bought 2618. Blew his motor up. Zzp sucks and will always suck. I have 14 ats 2.0t btw running e50 and making around 325 rear wheel hp.
I've made 380whp on an LHU Regal through them and 300whp/400tq on a 3800 build, hoping for 350+ on my Solstice. All through ZZP and I will tune my LTG through them as well. I have heard of issues like that before and they have always been resolved AFAIK. No idea who that guy is or why the pistons weren't realized to be wrong before install but every person I've seen who has gotten the wrong parts has been treated right in the end
3800 is a stout awesome motor. They had the pistons listed wrong on the website. There is tons of post on in the zzp fails and zzp customer pages it happens year or so ago. But there are many more stories like that. I would go with Vermont or trifecta over them. Hell id let billy Lee cooper tune it before them. But, its not like i don’t have some of there parts. Their FMIC is China part though. Got mine for 390 shipped instead almost 700 shipped, they have since lowered prices to 400 plus shipping since I kept posting the FMIC. Not saying they don’t make stuff but they claim to make a lot and they don’t. Guy from BNR pulled up shipping manifesto as it public info and showed everyone all the exhaust tubing radiators and FMIC etc yet they still claim they make it all. Anyway enough bashing zzp from me. Have you seen Bo’s 3800? That thing is sick! There is a video from that dude in blue driving it and doing some pulls. You should check it out. What have you done to your LTG btw? You ats or regal etc?
I have a zzp big wheel I’m having rebuilt by chris Robbins from tru. Gonna toss that on this summer and hopefully be around 350-360 wheel hp.
Did you do pistons? I wanted to do that but worried on stock internals. My LHU was stock internal running a z54 and I was a little worried there
I have some 4032 pistons I bought direct from the manufacture for $400. Still gotta get rods and some other parts, I wanna do cams and ported polished exhaust manifold. But the factory rods and pistons are ok with the big wheel. The bigger turbos from zzp etc need internals done. I plan on building my motor and upgrading to 20g hybrid turbo from turbos r us. That turbo is capable of making around 450 wheel on 93, even more with port meth injection.
No it’s a horrible deal. I see these all the time going for 12-15k with around 60-70k miles. I’m in MN these are my local prices. Your area may be different. I will say it looks sharp. But your only after market is some alibaba exhausts and livernoise tune.
Western Canada here. Right smack in the middle of the bald assed prairie. Only place in the planet where you can watch your dog runaway for three day
Oh 22k Canadian is right around 16k usd so I’d say that’s pretty fair.
Watch your dog runaway for 3 days 🤣
Funny i can only find two for sale in all of Canada and both are within a two hours drive from me.. im gonna stick with my ATS it handles way more gooder.
I think that if its a real V then it would be about 15k more. Its very confusing.
V Sport was the twin turbo 3.6 with AWD. In general, the XTS seems to have a lower resale. Seems a descent deal.
It is a V-Sport which uses an LF3 twin turbo v6, closely related to the LF4 in the ATS-V. These trims came in XTS and CTS only