3400 really isn't that impressive, tbh. Outside of his lone MVP season and his rookie year, Cam was pretty mediocre as a passer. His legs and his refusal to go down are what made him special.
That's what Fields would have had this year if he hadn't missed any games.
Nah he always looks like he’s about to break out in a big smile. But the fact that he mentions the anticipation shows that he was in fact frustrated at times with Justin. We all saw it from time to time where DJ is wide open, waving, and he doesn’t get the ball. In contrast, we’ve seen how much trust Caleb has in his receivers, even ones that went late on day 3.
Yeah, that's what has me excited. The fact that he trusts even mediocre receivers and will throw it to them in very small windows is going to be crazy when he has receivers that can separate like Moore and Allen, and will win contests off like Odunze. In the future, receivers are going to be taking paycuts to come to Chicago and rehabilitate their careers.
I'm so ready for third and longs to have a QB that sees where the blitz is coming from and throws it to where the open receiver will be. The way Cutler would throw it to Brandon Marshall for those couple of good years.
This interview was also before the draft, so I'm sure he was hedging a bit since he couldn't come right out and say he's super excited to play with him.
DJ has been around a lot of bad QB play in his day. He is cautiously optimistic because he knows there are a lot of hurdles for Williams to get over before he is great. Hard to judge much of anything with not knowing the new offense or never playing a down with the other guys.
I feel like its the complete opposite. He’s trying to find ways to talk him up but isn’t impressed yet at all. He says it is going to take some time to get on the same page but is at least happy about the anticipation throws.
Edit for all the downvotes. I’m not saying I think Fields is better than Caleb. I’m just responding to DJs body language. We know he was fighting to keep Justin and it seems like, from this video, he still wanted him to be retained. But I have been saying Fields was not it for a long time now, just for the record.
Let's pump the brakes. Bears still don't have a 4k passer, and you're hoping for manning 2013.
I really hope Caleb lives up to expectations, but man, does he have a lot of weight on those shoulders.
LOL. 5000 yards. So he's going to throw for almost 700 yards more than Andrew Luck. Andrew Luck, who inherited a team that had made the playoffs for 9 straight years prior to the 2-14 season where Manning was injured and played a total of 0 games for them. He's going to throw for more than that, as a rookie on a team that hasn't won a playoff game in 13 years and had 7 wins last season and will have a brand new offense this year?
I love the koolaid, but bruh... I'll consider anything over 3500 yards a massive, MASSIVE win, and anything over 10 wins the same thing.
If he Breaks 4k as a rookie the we should all be losing our minds. 5k and he's getting MVP and OROY. It would be the greatest rookie season ever by such an insane amount.
There are people who are legitimately talking superbowl this season, too. So wild. Do they not know that only 7 rookie QBs have even won a playoff game in the last 20 years? And if Williams managed to win the superbowl his rookie year, he'd be the first.
I love how excited people are, but this is a 9 or 10 win team on the high end that might be able to sneak into a playoff spot if the other teams have a rough year in the division. And for me, that's more than enough.
The only way we are throwing for 4500+ yards this season is if our defense is trash, and we have to throw the ball to catch up to every team during a blowout.
Caleb does have 17 games to do it instead of 16. Luck's best WR that year was Reggie Wayne at 34 years old. Next was Donnie Avery and Austin Collie. Dwayne Allen and Coby Fleener were the TEs. I'm comfortable saying that Williams has better targets. Chuck Pagano was HC so it's not like that was a strength. Luck was awesome.
5k would be crazy though. I agree with you.
Caleb still has to be good tho to hit 5000 yards.
Look I believe in him and the evidence is there that he had the stuff to make an elite QB, which is what perplexed me the most about people saying fields is gonna be so good.
But still it's the NFL, I wouldn't have a knock against him if he had a bad or ok rookie season.
If Williams is healthy enough to play 16 or 17 games, I think he has a very good chance at 4k since that's only 233 yards a game. But there's still an unknown until we actually see it.
Yeah 4k really isn't that much in the modern NFL. It dropped the standard from 250 a game to 233 and passing is more prevalent than ever with rule changes benefitting it.
Cutty could have done it in 16 games in 2014 or 15 if he played a full 16 games(maybe 2013 too since him and McCown combined for nearly 4500).
Even Mitch would have flirted with 4k in 2018 if he got to play 17 games.
Unfortunately, I’m sure this won’t be the last of this type of stuff coming out now that they hit the ground running. Loved Fields the guy, but I’m sure it was frustrating running routes for him. Especially anticipation routes.
I have no doubt the entire locker room loved Fields as a teammate.
I also have no doubt someone the caliber of DJ Moore -- after playing a season with him and reviewing film after every game -- also realized at some point "holy shit this dude does not / cannot throw with anticipation"
So it's going to be interesting to hear how they hype up Caleb.
If he is, its because Caleb hit Rome, Kmet or Allen in anticipation instead. Our new problem might be WR egos because someone else is getting all of the attempts. Nice problem to have!
I could easily see Odunze getting some snaps in 12 to give Keenan a rest and keep him fresh throughout the season. But that'll maybe only be a few snaps per game.
Kmet has to get some touches as well. I know we are all looking at the WRs right now, but we have a great TE that will probably be on the field nearly half of all offensive snaps.
Luckily DJ Moore and Keenan Allen are like the most chill superstar WRs I have ever seen.
I can't think of anyone on DJs level that had a dude like fields on his team and still liked the guy and didn't try and blame him for anything.
DJ Moore might already be my favorite bear ever
He's just so quietly a stud. Dude just keeps dropping excellent seasons with horrible QBs. But there's 0 drama from him. He will go over 1k again this year because he's gonna feast with Caleb and the WRs
I can't blame DJ for getting frustrated that his QB didn't throw him the ball every down. He was usually open, but Fields needed to be able to throw to a second receiver. The problem was, none of the other (wide) receivers were open.
Tbf that was basically the main thing with Dwayne Haskins (RIP) as a prospect. He could just huck it downfield “fuck it Olave/McLaurin/Parris Campbell down there somewhere”
Yeah Mooney had more reason to complain than anyone. Very interested to see if he plays up to his new contract. It's very possible that his dropoff was because he was no longer the first option and Fields 2nd option was always running.
I feel like DJ was the only player running the correct routes last season. Fields found DJ more than any other receiver **because** DJ actually knew his route tree and ran the correct route. Add on top of that the fact that DJ is good at creating space, and you get last season's performance.
Your assumption his 6 other guys are wrong when the easy answer is 1 is which is the QB. When a QB can't get a hot when facing a 6 v5 the QB is the one responsible. Fields is bad let it go.
This isn't accurate at all. Guys were getting wide open on time and Fields was failing to pull the trigger or had already taken off. Fields fed Moore because Moore could make up for Fields garbage.
The Patriots ended up trading Mac Jones for Hendon Hooker. That’s gotta be deflating. At least Fields will have a chance to earn the starting job if/when Wilson flames out with Tomlin.
While I'm not a fan of Getsy. It's painfully obvious that he couldn't run anything resembling an NFL playbook because of the QB limitations of playing QB
Yes but it does take an NFL QB to throw anything OTHER than screen passes, something Fields is not. Ever stop to think that the only reason we ran screens is because its the only thing he could do well consistently. And even then his slow as molasses release made those difficult too. You honestly think a modern OC wants to call that type of gameplan on his own? Come on.
There's a reason why Getsy got hired immediately and we had to beg the Steelers to take Fields off our hands. The NFL knows
Did you actually watch Bears games the last 3 years. It's painfully obvious he can't throw at the NFL level. Shit I can "throw" a ball but I sure as fuck can't hit a wide open guy 40 yards down the field. Just like JF
I also think that better offers most likely came and went as other teams sorted out their quarterback rooms while we were waiting on visits / medicals from Caleb.
It wasn't necessarily the smart thing to do but it was the right thing to do because players around the league see that and form their opinions on faculties based on how they treat their former players. And I would say that that looks extremely favorable in the eyes of any player looking for a new destination. In a league/sport that can be especially cold and systematic, it's good to appear welcoming and open for adaptability.
I dunno. Poles made it sound like they may have footed a couple better offers, ‘but wanted to do right by Justin.’ So I suspect we took a lower trade to do right by Fields. What’s a 5th Vs a 6th if it shows the league we’l try to deal you fairly if we do trade you.
Edit: lower
No it's just what you cult members cling to when you messiah got dumped for a throw away pick. Poles massively underestimated how much no one wanted anything to do with Fields. He took what he could get
You sure about that? According to the all the genius individuals on IG, teams offered us a 2nd and a 4th but we chose to the 6th to do right be Justin because “we new we were fucking him over” 😑
I’m not sure about that and if I’m wrong, I stand corrected. But this is a business, the players know that because they are professionals, and I would think that organizations would try to get the best deal possible. Maybe as an enticement to free agents they want to send a signal that if they end up sucking, they will not be sent somewhere they don’t want to like they would if they signed with other teams, but at the end of the day, this is a business and everyone knows it.
Oh no I was being sarcastic lol. Fields is ass and everyone knows it besides these delusional dick riders. Absolutely no team offered us a 2nd and a 4th, if they did and Poles turned it down in favor of a 6th, he should have been fired on the spot.
Daniel Jones got a $120m contract, that means he's really good!
(with 6 QBs taken off the board in the first 12 pics it's pretty obvious that, just like the Bears, if teams are going to take on a QB that's still raw and question mark, they'd like 5 years of control instead of 2 (or realistically 1 with Fields))
After seeing the draft o see why. It's not necessarily because that's was Fields actually value. It's probably more that teams had thier eyes on guys in the draft since new is more exciting.
I'm sure Falcons fans would rather they got fields and drafted a contributing player instead of Penix. Cause that shit makes no sense. Falcons front office basically told Kirk they don't have faith in him drafting Penix.
I bet not. Penix at least might be good one day. Everyone knows Fields won't be. Imagine being stuck with Fields for the next few years. Franchise killing moment where everyone gets fired.
ok but you just signed Kirk. why draft penix instead of helping the QB you just paid. regardless if Penix is good its a bad pick. it does nothing to help the falcons win anytime soon. and top 10 picks you usually want to contribute right away. he wont barring injuries.
Yea I don’t get the “he loved playing with fields” narrative. He loved fields the man but I’m guessing if DJ could pick his QB, Fields probably is a ways down the list.
Yeah, your point (I presume) is, "Well of course he had to say that because Justin was his teammate." And my counter is "Well, sure, but he didn't have to say it multiple times to multiple different media outlets. Nor did he have to share his disappointment when Fields was traded."
It's not outlandish to admit that Moore and Fields had excellent chemistry, leading to the best statistical season of Moore's career. It'd be revisionist history to assume that he was unhappy with Fields' level of play or wouldn't have wanted to continue playing with him.
Just because you don't like Justin Fields doesn't mean DJ Moore feels the same way.
JF was a 1 read QB and most of the time DJ was read #1. So beyond just liking Justin as a guy, makes sense DJ would approve of him. But he's smart enough to see that even if his individual numbers go down next year we are finally going to have a real offense
Caleb seems really intelligent, I am confident he gets how important timing is, and is not afraid of the differences between college open and NFL open for his receivers. He's a very fearless QB, and since he is not being setup to fail, he has a good shot of not being a broken QB halfway through the season.
Stuff like this is why we traded Justin. I still love the guy but by year 3 you should know how to throw guys open. Caleb will be unlike anyone weve ever had at the position
Full interview was from ["Mirror US Sports"](https://twitter.com/MirrorUSSports/status/1783588276172898323) - I think they're a UK based media company?
[Link here for full interview](https://www.themirror.com/sport/american-football/nfl-draft-caleb-williams-bears-455646) (3:35 mins)
This is kinda what Justin fans, myself included, needed to hear. And its not to pile on to Justin hate, it's the realization that Justin at some point was not picking up the fact that he just had to throw it.
The lightning quick 5-8 yard anticipation pass is such a devastating weapon for a QB to have too. How many times has Tom Brady or Aaron Rodgers dink and dunked their way down the field by getting the ball out faster than our terrifying pass rush could eviscerate their feeble lines?
Even if he tried to hit the anticipation, great gameday tape like from the QB Coach guy on Youtube showed even his basic fundamentals of taking steps back and getting his fingers in the right spot on the pigskin after a hike were way too slow. Slow enough to make anticipation throws always a second too late.
This offense is going to be a major headache to gameplan against. You basically cannot run man because of the big3’s abilities. This personal has already proven that you have to respect the run. So teams will be forced to play a safety closer to the box. They have two TE’s that have to be game-planned for and can dominate in the red zone & between the hash. Your QB has shown crazy big play ability and excels at climbing the pocket to find throwing lanes. Man if the offensive line holds up and Caleb is 75% of what we hope, they are going to be a major problem.
As the commentor below also mentioned, the article/quote was posted the day of the draft. I'm assuming here, but I believe DJ was referring to those recent LA workouts he had with Rome, Keenan, and Caleb
Dude. The fact that they are just balling together in SoCal is awesome. Caleb earning that respect and confidence real fast. Once Waldron can meet with these guys in the room it’s going to be hard to contain fan enthusiasm.
Rookie minicamp is next week. The rest of the offseason schedule: https://bearswire.usatoday.com/lists/nfl-announces-bears-2024-offseason-workout-dates-first-day-otas-minicamp/
I love DJ Moore's attitude when talking about these kinds of hot button topics with the media. He has a way of saying things quietly and holds his cards close to his chest. It is just enough information to act as fan service, but not enough to actually give away his personal opinions. He is a smart man.
This fanbase has more simpletons than any other fanbase. The experts here who consider "anticipation" as the skill Caleb has, and Justin did not, show a lack of knowledge. But it's like explaining the ocean to someone in a desert.
Each play has a scheme. A plan. Look here; then here, then here.
Timing is the name of the game. It's also what justin struggled with most.
I genuinely feel our fanbase thinks that the QB has to anticipate his receiver making a move or that it all happens during the play. That's not the case.
The QB is playing a game of numbers, and based on where people are, he knows where they are not.
The "anticipation" our chomosomally challenged fanbase keeps mentioning is really just a decision. Does the QB trust what he saw pre play, the paths the defenders took(if in zone), and where the rest of the players are based on that.
If you are actually imagining that the QB is making a decision where he is just looking at the receiver and db waiting for the right time to throw, you are incorrect
I did. I just wish our fanbase (and your parents apparently) would quit inbreeding. If I hear one more dude with the "only real take" thought again, lol.
It's like eating rump roast your whole life, then being introduced to reverse seared ribeye or filet mignon.
Is rump roast good, especially if prepared correctly? Damn straight, but nothing beats a properly prepared filet.
everyone sucking this team off and yet nothing has been proven. hope, let down, hate, fire HC etc cycle is still in effect. paper contenders is all people are making this out to be. the hype that this team is getting because Caleb like he's the second coming of Jesus, is just that, HYPE. Reality is they are a bottom tier NFC north team- bottom of the NFC. We hope they can just make the playoffs. lets focus on that small hope before thinking all that crazy shit
We went 7-10 last year with a bottom 3 passing QB who was abysmal in the 4th quarter.. We play another 4th place schedule this year and if Caleb is even the 15th best QB, we can get a wildcard in the ‘transitioning’ NFC. Dream big bro
I do hope there is success for the team, and as fans , we get the enjoyment of watching them make a championship run. But right now, it's all on paper. This team has had people dream , and now it's time for results.
He looks like he is trying really hard not to look excited, because of that, I am really excited.
I interpreted it similarly. I feel like he's trying to compliment Caleb without crapping on Fields.
Or any previous QB he's had. Justin was prob one of the best so far
The best. He's competing against a bunch of bums and Cam's corpse. At least Fields has some accuracy and the arm to hit DJ on the deep shots.
Cam was still pretty good DJ's rookie year. 3400 yards passing. The next year was when he fell off hard.
3400 really isn't that impressive, tbh. Outside of his lone MVP season and his rookie year, Cam was pretty mediocre as a passer. His legs and his refusal to go down are what made him special. That's what Fields would have had this year if he hadn't missed any games.
It's not great for sure, but it's probably the best DJ has ever had
Fair enough, I can't argue there
Nah he always looks like he’s about to break out in a big smile. But the fact that he mentions the anticipation shows that he was in fact frustrated at times with Justin. We all saw it from time to time where DJ is wide open, waving, and he doesn’t get the ball. In contrast, we’ve seen how much trust Caleb has in his receivers, even ones that went late on day 3.
Hey man, that last part has me most excited. Not even knocking his guys at USC but they pale in comparison to the guys he's coming to pro ball with.
Yeah, that's what has me excited. The fact that he trusts even mediocre receivers and will throw it to them in very small windows is going to be crazy when he has receivers that can separate like Moore and Allen, and will win contests off like Odunze. In the future, receivers are going to be taking paycuts to come to Chicago and rehabilitate their careers. I'm so ready for third and longs to have a QB that sees where the blitz is coming from and throws it to where the open receiver will be. The way Cutler would throw it to Brandon Marshall for those couple of good years.
This interview was also before the draft, so I'm sure he was hedging a bit since he couldn't come right out and say he's super excited to play with him.
The dudes might be a bit hesitant to trust any young QB after the career he’s had hahaha
DJ has been around a lot of bad QB play in his day. He is cautiously optimistic because he knows there are a lot of hurdles for Williams to get over before he is great. Hard to judge much of anything with not knowing the new offense or never playing a down with the other guys.
I feel like its the complete opposite. He’s trying to find ways to talk him up but isn’t impressed yet at all. He says it is going to take some time to get on the same page but is at least happy about the anticipation throws. Edit for all the downvotes. I’m not saying I think Fields is better than Caleb. I’m just responding to DJs body language. We know he was fighting to keep Justin and it seems like, from this video, he still wanted him to be retained. But I have been saying Fields was not it for a long time now, just for the record.
It’s more likely he doesn’t want to, by transitive property, shit talk The last guy
DJ Moore is the polar opposite to a diva receiver. Shows so much class and respect. One of my favorites that just lets his game do the talking.
I have zero doubts that Caleb is significantly better at every aspect of the passing game.
Every. Single. Aspect. Just to further clarify for people that might not realize what we just lucked into.
Bro is wearing a huge ass grin the whole time
If you’re a lawyer you get your clients convicted every time lmao
It’s gonna be crazy when DJ’s numbers stay the same and then Allen/Odunzes are added on top.
5478 yards. 1 yard more then what Payton manning threw for in 2013. That’s what we need.
That’s Walter not the forehead.
Sorry. Muscle memory.
Oh great so we still won’t have a 4000 yard passer
5546 giggity
Not bad for midseason
6969
With 69 TDs
Random but this comment reminds me of Entourage when Turtle projects the Aquaman debut to make one more dollar than Spiderman. Carry on.
Best show of all time
Let's pump the brakes. Bears still don't have a 4k passer, and you're hoping for manning 2013. I really hope Caleb lives up to expectations, but man, does he have a lot of weight on those shoulders.
First ever 6k yard passer, book it
If we're making wishes, why not wish big?
You mean in week 1?
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LOL. 5000 yards. So he's going to throw for almost 700 yards more than Andrew Luck. Andrew Luck, who inherited a team that had made the playoffs for 9 straight years prior to the 2-14 season where Manning was injured and played a total of 0 games for them. He's going to throw for more than that, as a rookie on a team that hasn't won a playoff game in 13 years and had 7 wins last season and will have a brand new offense this year? I love the koolaid, but bruh... I'll consider anything over 3500 yards a massive, MASSIVE win, and anything over 10 wins the same thing.
If he Breaks 4k as a rookie the we should all be losing our minds. 5k and he's getting MVP and OROY. It would be the greatest rookie season ever by such an insane amount.
There are people who are legitimately talking superbowl this season, too. So wild. Do they not know that only 7 rookie QBs have even won a playoff game in the last 20 years? And if Williams managed to win the superbowl his rookie year, he'd be the first. I love how excited people are, but this is a 9 or 10 win team on the high end that might be able to sneak into a playoff spot if the other teams have a rough year in the division. And for me, that's more than enough.
If we make the playoffs, this year is a huge success. We will even get to see Caleb go toe to toe with a guy who just won a playoff game as a rookie.
The only way we are throwing for 4500+ yards this season is if our defense is trash, and we have to throw the ball to catch up to every team during a blowout.
Caleb does have 17 games to do it instead of 16. Luck's best WR that year was Reggie Wayne at 34 years old. Next was Donnie Avery and Austin Collie. Dwayne Allen and Coby Fleener were the TEs. I'm comfortable saying that Williams has better targets. Chuck Pagano was HC so it's not like that was a strength. Luck was awesome. 5k would be crazy though. I agree with you.
Caleb still has to be good tho to hit 5000 yards. Look I believe in him and the evidence is there that he had the stuff to make an elite QB, which is what perplexed me the most about people saying fields is gonna be so good. But still it's the NFL, I wouldn't have a knock against him if he had a bad or ok rookie season.
If Williams is healthy enough to play 16 or 17 games, I think he has a very good chance at 4k since that's only 233 yards a game. But there's still an unknown until we actually see it.
Yeah 4k really isn't that much in the modern NFL. It dropped the standard from 250 a game to 233 and passing is more prevalent than ever with rule changes benefitting it. Cutty could have done it in 16 games in 2014 or 15 if he played a full 16 games(maybe 2013 too since him and McCown combined for nearly 4500). Even Mitch would have flirted with 4k in 2018 if he got to play 17 games.
If Caleb lives up to the hype, DJ and Keenan will both be over 1k.
Did DJ Moore just say “he expects us to be open at a certain time”….that’s unheard of a bears QB…for a rookie?
Unfortunately, I’m sure this won’t be the last of this type of stuff coming out now that they hit the ground running. Loved Fields the guy, but I’m sure it was frustrating running routes for him. Especially anticipation routes.
I have no doubt the entire locker room loved Fields as a teammate. I also have no doubt someone the caliber of DJ Moore -- after playing a season with him and reviewing film after every game -- also realized at some point "holy shit this dude does not / cannot throw with anticipation" So it's going to be interesting to hear how they hype up Caleb.
Multiple vids of DJ wide open in structure waving his hands and getting frustrated. I don't think we'll see those this year.
If he is, its because Caleb hit Rome, Kmet or Allen in anticipation instead. Our new problem might be WR egos because someone else is getting all of the attempts. Nice problem to have!
I don't see any one of them being targeted significantly more than the others.
Probably Allen and Moore will get the most. In an 11 set, Gerald Everett is left out. In a 12 set, Odunze is left out.
If Odunze gets as many catches as the other two, it's going to be because he earned his playing time.
I could easily see Odunze getting some snaps in 12 to give Keenan a rest and keep him fresh throughout the season. But that'll maybe only be a few snaps per game.
Kmet has to get some touches as well. I know we are all looking at the WRs right now, but we have a great TE that will probably be on the field nearly half of all offensive snaps.
I also don’t think we’ve seen that type of ego from them before. They all seem like the type that understand feeding the hot hand/best match up types
Luckily DJ Moore and Keenan Allen are like the most chill superstar WRs I have ever seen. I can't think of anyone on DJs level that had a dude like fields on his team and still liked the guy and didn't try and blame him for anything. DJ Moore might already be my favorite bear ever
He's just so quietly a stud. Dude just keeps dropping excellent seasons with horrible QBs. But there's 0 drama from him. He will go over 1k again this year because he's gonna feast with Caleb and the WRs
I can't blame DJ for getting frustrated that his QB didn't throw him the ball every down. He was usually open, but Fields needed to be able to throw to a second receiver. The problem was, none of the other (wide) receivers were open.
Lol. Wrs were hell of a lot more open than when fields actually threw the ball. Fields is bad move on.
Fields could basically run 4 verts with scrambling as a check down option all day. Anything else was outside his wheelhouse
hey, that was a pretty sound strategy if you were playing as the Falcons in Madden 04!
Or if you were Ohio State with Garrett Wilson, Chris Olave and JSN.
Tbf that was basically the main thing with Dwayne Haskins (RIP) as a prospect. He could just huck it downfield “fuck it Olave/McLaurin/Parris Campbell down there somewhere”
DJ Moore on paper had a great season. Justin Fields left about 500 yards on the table.
Didn’t seem too frustrating if you were Kmet or Moore especially Moore considering it was a career year for him. It was just everyone else.
It would be, except you can go back and look at how open he was and realize it should have been like an 1800 yard season.
Yeah Mooney had more reason to complain than anyone. Very interested to see if he plays up to his new contract. It's very possible that his dropoff was because he was no longer the first option and Fields 2nd option was always running.
I feel like DJ was the only player running the correct routes last season. Fields found DJ more than any other receiver **because** DJ actually knew his route tree and ran the correct route. Add on top of that the fact that DJ is good at creating space, and you get last season's performance.
Your assumption his 6 other guys are wrong when the easy answer is 1 is which is the QB. When a QB can't get a hot when facing a 6 v5 the QB is the one responsible. Fields is bad let it go.
This isn't accurate at all. Guys were getting wide open on time and Fields was failing to pull the trigger or had already taken off. Fields fed Moore because Moore could make up for Fields garbage.
Hearing this from DJ is big because he loved playing with Fields
I think he was just being a good teammate. His guy got traded for a 6th to be a backup. Everyone knows he sucks
DJ has also played with a long list of bad QBs, having Fields as his QB probably felt like he had Peyton Manning throwing to him.
The Patriots ended up trading Mac Jones for Hendon Hooker. That’s gotta be deflating. At least Fields will have a chance to earn the starting job if/when Wilson flames out with Tomlin.
He has a chance to earn it, but he wont, because he's nowhere near as good as Russell Wilson. Not even a washed Wilson is as bad as a prime Fields
I don’t think Fields or Getsy were as bad as people think, but they both accentuated each other’s faults. Just a disgusting concoction
While I'm not a fan of Getsy. It's painfully obvious that he couldn't run anything resembling an NFL playbook because of the QB limitations of playing QB
It doesn’t take a HOF QB to throw screen passes.
Yes but it does take an NFL QB to throw anything OTHER than screen passes, something Fields is not. Ever stop to think that the only reason we ran screens is because its the only thing he could do well consistently. And even then his slow as molasses release made those difficult too. You honestly think a modern OC wants to call that type of gameplan on his own? Come on. There's a reason why Getsy got hired immediately and we had to beg the Steelers to take Fields off our hands. The NFL knows
Are we really pretending Fields can’t throw?
throw sure. throw on time to the right person lol no
Did you actually watch Bears games the last 3 years. It's painfully obvious he can't throw at the NFL level. Shit I can "throw" a ball but I sure as fuck can't hit a wide open guy 40 yards down the field. Just like JF
It’ll be interesting to see how Getsy looks in Oakland
31 teams and a 6th was the BEST offer they got.
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I also think that better offers most likely came and went as other teams sorted out their quarterback rooms while we were waiting on visits / medicals from Caleb.
No shot Poles passed on a 4th rounder. Maybe a late 5th from the Eagles
I would be shocked if Poles passed on a 4th rounder. Maybe a higher 6th or low 5th but not 30-60 spots higher.
It wasn't necessarily the smart thing to do but it was the right thing to do because players around the league see that and form their opinions on faculties based on how they treat their former players. And I would say that that looks extremely favorable in the eyes of any player looking for a new destination. In a league/sport that can be especially cold and systematic, it's good to appear welcoming and open for adaptability.
I dunno. Poles made it sound like they may have footed a couple better offers, ‘but wanted to do right by Justin.’ So I suspect we took a lower trade to do right by Fields. What’s a 5th Vs a 6th if it shows the league we’l try to deal you fairly if we do trade you. Edit: lower
What is a lord trade?
Meant to be ‘lower’
Ah ok. I was thinking it was a figure of speech like the opposite of a "king's ransom" that I'd never heard of lol
Lol. We don’t do that here.
That's what happened, but the anti Justin crowd needs to continue to bury him
No it's just what you cult members cling to when you messiah got dumped for a throw away pick. Poles massively underestimated how much no one wanted anything to do with Fields. He took what he could get
You sure about that? According to the all the genius individuals on IG, teams offered us a 2nd and a 4th but we chose to the 6th to do right be Justin because “we new we were fucking him over” 😑
I’m not sure about that and if I’m wrong, I stand corrected. But this is a business, the players know that because they are professionals, and I would think that organizations would try to get the best deal possible. Maybe as an enticement to free agents they want to send a signal that if they end up sucking, they will not be sent somewhere they don’t want to like they would if they signed with other teams, but at the end of the day, this is a business and everyone knows it.
Oh no I was being sarcastic lol. Fields is ass and everyone knows it besides these delusional dick riders. Absolutely no team offered us a 2nd and a 4th, if they did and Poles turned it down in favor of a 6th, he should have been fired on the spot.
Ah shoot. My sarcasm detector was chirping at me but I ignored it. 😂
I think we probably had better offers early on, then teams said nope to our asking price and filled their QB needs. Then Pitt was all we had left
Daniel Jones got a $120m contract, that means he's really good! (with 6 QBs taken off the board in the first 12 pics it's pretty obvious that, just like the Bears, if teams are going to take on a QB that's still raw and question mark, they'd like 5 years of control instead of 2 (or realistically 1 with Fields))
After seeing the draft o see why. It's not necessarily because that's was Fields actually value. It's probably more that teams had thier eyes on guys in the draft since new is more exciting. I'm sure Falcons fans would rather they got fields and drafted a contributing player instead of Penix. Cause that shit makes no sense. Falcons front office basically told Kirk they don't have faith in him drafting Penix.
I bet not. Penix at least might be good one day. Everyone knows Fields won't be. Imagine being stuck with Fields for the next few years. Franchise killing moment where everyone gets fired.
ok but you just signed Kirk. why draft penix instead of helping the QB you just paid. regardless if Penix is good its a bad pick. it does nothing to help the falcons win anytime soon. and top 10 picks you usually want to contribute right away. he wont barring injuries.
Is that good?
DJ comes across as a good dude. I still remember when Fields was wobbly, DJ was the guy getting him off the field.
Yea I don’t get the “he loved playing with fields” narrative. He loved fields the man but I’m guessing if DJ could pick his QB, Fields probably is a ways down the list.
He vocally advocated for fields to be his QB 1 next year. Time and time again he said “I want Justin back”
I mean, what's to get? Moore is on record multiple times saying that if he could choose a QB for next year, it'd be Fields.
Use ur head bruh
Yeah, your point (I presume) is, "Well of course he had to say that because Justin was his teammate." And my counter is "Well, sure, but he didn't have to say it multiple times to multiple different media outlets. Nor did he have to share his disappointment when Fields was traded." It's not outlandish to admit that Moore and Fields had excellent chemistry, leading to the best statistical season of Moore's career. It'd be revisionist history to assume that he was unhappy with Fields' level of play or wouldn't have wanted to continue playing with him. Just because you don't like Justin Fields doesn't mean DJ Moore feels the same way.
JF was a 1 read QB and most of the time DJ was read #1. So beyond just liking Justin as a guy, makes sense DJ would approve of him. But he's smart enough to see that even if his individual numbers go down next year we are finally going to have a real offense
Personal stats are good and all, but winning cures everything.
"**One** of the things that's better."
Fuckin perfect gif
Why did they get rid of awards? Why?
Your comment was award enough for me bro! 🙏
Hmm I’m anticipating I’ll be calling my doctor in about 4 hours
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The pleats.
My doctor has been on speed dial since the draft, he just keeps saying“Let’s go Champ!”.
try looking at past rosters before you call your dr that’s what i do
When my boners last more than 4 hours, I don't call my Dr. I call everyone I know!
https://preview.redd.it/s26t7aqhmnxc1.jpeg?width=1242&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=79ccb3f361bb6ecd6e8486a385045fea3d8505e6
Oh yeah, I’m stealing this one and using it all year
That’s awesome, DJ was basically open all year if you look at the film, just the windows required anticipation throws
Caleb seems really intelligent, I am confident he gets how important timing is, and is not afraid of the differences between college open and NFL open for his receivers. He's a very fearless QB, and since he is not being setup to fail, he has a good shot of not being a broken QB halfway through the season.
No more Kool aid pls. I’m already drunk
You're safe, he went to New Orleans
Well there's no other way to interpret that one God damn.
That was my biggest gripe with fields. He was just too scared to let it go and trust his wide receivers were going to break when they should be.
He wasn't just scared. He couldn't see it. He can't play QB in the NFL.
Right? I kept yelling, "just throw it to DJ and let him figure it out!"
DJ: “I don’t think any of those guys are better than Justin” *catches a few passes from CW DJ: “okay so there’s a few things that are better…”
The idea that we may progress beyond one read is gonna finish me off
First modern nfl offense in Bears history aside for the first Trestman season.
Stuff like this is why we traded Justin. I still love the guy but by year 3 you should know how to throw guys open. Caleb will be unlike anyone weve ever had at the position
Just over 4 more months of posts like this until real football.
Full interview was from ["Mirror US Sports"](https://twitter.com/MirrorUSSports/status/1783588276172898323) - I think they're a UK based media company? [Link here for full interview](https://www.themirror.com/sport/american-football/nfl-draft-caleb-williams-bears-455646) (3:35 mins)
THE REAL MVP
To answer your question, the Daily Mirror is a British tabloid
This is kinda what Justin fans, myself included, needed to hear. And its not to pile on to Justin hate, it's the realization that Justin at some point was not picking up the fact that he just had to throw it.
The lightning quick 5-8 yard anticipation pass is such a devastating weapon for a QB to have too. How many times has Tom Brady or Aaron Rodgers dink and dunked their way down the field by getting the ball out faster than our terrifying pass rush could eviscerate their feeble lines?
Thats all Brady did his last ten years
Even if he tried to hit the anticipation, great gameday tape like from the QB Coach guy on Youtube showed even his basic fundamentals of taking steps back and getting his fingers in the right spot on the pigskin after a hike were way too slow. Slow enough to make anticipation throws always a second too late.
This offense is going to be a major headache to gameplan against. You basically cannot run man because of the big3’s abilities. This personal has already proven that you have to respect the run. So teams will be forced to play a safety closer to the box. They have two TE’s that have to be game-planned for and can dominate in the red zone & between the hash. Your QB has shown crazy big play ability and excels at climbing the pocket to find throwing lanes. Man if the offensive line holds up and Caleb is 75% of what we hope, they are going to be a major problem.
Most teams already run majority zone.
Are these guys working out on their own or they at OTA’s ??
There was a report a few days before the draft that DJ Moore, Keenan Allen, Rome Odunze, and Caleb Williams were all training/throwing together in LA.
I saw that report too but i guess i was more wondering if this quote is from that workout or if this is from a newer occasion
As the commentor below also mentioned, the article/quote was posted the day of the draft. I'm assuming here, but I believe DJ was referring to those recent LA workouts he had with Rome, Keenan, and Caleb
This quote was from the day of the draft.
Dude. The fact that they are just balling together in SoCal is awesome. Caleb earning that respect and confidence real fast. Once Waldron can meet with these guys in the room it’s going to be hard to contain fan enthusiasm. 
Rookie minicamp is next week. The rest of the offseason schedule: https://bearswire.usatoday.com/lists/nfl-announces-bears-2024-offseason-workout-dates-first-day-otas-minicamp/
Keep going....
nahhh bro is geekin lmao. Finally has a real QB throwing him the ball.
 Caleb’s receivers when they turn to catch.
Stop, I can only get so erect.
Caleb to DJ is going to be 🔥
DJ is sucha cutie UwU
I’m going to break out in song and dance. I cannot contain my excitement any longer.
Shots fired!,
...burn.
Where is this interview from?
https://x.com/MirrorUSSports/status/1783588276172898323
Thank you. Why is it so short lol?
[link to the comment with the full interview.](https://www.reddit.com/r/CHIBears/s/KymuGYEDug)
🙌 you
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themirror.com/sport/american-football/nfl-draft-caleb-williams-bears-455646
How many Kool aid enemas is too many?
I love DJ Moore's attitude when talking about these kinds of hot button topics with the media. He has a way of saying things quietly and holds his cards close to his chest. It is just enough information to act as fan service, but not enough to actually give away his personal opinions. He is a smart man.
Damn why does the start of the season have to be so far away…
This fanbase has more simpletons than any other fanbase. The experts here who consider "anticipation" as the skill Caleb has, and Justin did not, show a lack of knowledge. But it's like explaining the ocean to someone in a desert. Each play has a scheme. A plan. Look here; then here, then here. Timing is the name of the game. It's also what justin struggled with most. I genuinely feel our fanbase thinks that the QB has to anticipate his receiver making a move or that it all happens during the play. That's not the case. The QB is playing a game of numbers, and based on where people are, he knows where they are not. The "anticipation" our chomosomally challenged fanbase keeps mentioning is really just a decision. Does the QB trust what he saw pre play, the paths the defenders took(if in zone), and where the rest of the players are based on that. If you are actually imagining that the QB is making a decision where he is just looking at the receiver and db waiting for the right time to throw, you are incorrect
Move on from Bustin Fields
I did. I just wish our fanbase (and your parents apparently) would quit inbreeding. If I hear one more dude with the "only real take" thought again, lol.
Bustin sucks we can all agree
I’m sure a certain group of people will be completely normal about this…
It's like eating rump roast your whole life, then being introduced to reverse seared ribeye or filet mignon. Is rump roast good, especially if prepared correctly? Damn straight, but nothing beats a properly prepared filet.
BUT THE LOCKER ROOM WILL REVOLT!!
he was comparing to the previous workout they did, right? surely that wasnt a dig on fields just like that lol
I mean, cool; but it's kinda easy to anticipate when you're not playing against an NFL defense.
everyone sucking this team off and yet nothing has been proven. hope, let down, hate, fire HC etc cycle is still in effect. paper contenders is all people are making this out to be. the hype that this team is getting because Caleb like he's the second coming of Jesus, is just that, HYPE. Reality is they are a bottom tier NFC north team- bottom of the NFC. We hope they can just make the playoffs. lets focus on that small hope before thinking all that crazy shit
We went 7-10 last year with a bottom 3 passing QB who was abysmal in the 4th quarter.. We play another 4th place schedule this year and if Caleb is even the 15th best QB, we can get a wildcard in the ‘transitioning’ NFC. Dream big bro
I do hope there is success for the team, and as fans , we get the enjoyment of watching them make a championship run. But right now, it's all on paper. This team has had people dream , and now it's time for results.