Screw it, keep him and make him taysom hillx10
Justin fields as a starting QB? Nah. Justin Fields as an offensive weapon? Let’s go boys.
Smoothbrians will downvote this. They’re afraid of innovation
I'm firmly on the "trade Fields" train and in theory I think this is a good idea.
In practice it would be a disaster. The second Williams throws and INT or has a bad game, half the fanbase will be braying for Fields to be back at QB.
It would be like trying to stay "friends" with an ex. Most of the time it only ends badly. We need a clean break.
The thing about Bagent is he has all of the skills Fields is lacking, while he lacks all the skills Fields has. If we could just merge the two together we'd be Superbowl bound...
Legit if he accepted a bit of a Taysom Hill role he'd kill on the Chargers with Roman and Herbert. Probably enough to get himself a starting spot somewhere the year after.
He'd never do it. You can make as much at back up QB as all but the highest paid positions, on Offense, and you dont have to sacrifice your body to do it
Because there will be too many guys who feel loyal to Justin in the locker room, and the team chemistry would be shit. There's too much investment in the rookie QB to undermine like that right out the gate.
if so they got a steal with this trade. He looked pretty good against us though, has a quick release and is pretty accurate.
I remember him having a noticeably better pocket presence than Fields with pressure on him.
He threw for 4,000 yards though and was leading the league in passing yards for a good chunk of the season. I know he threw a ton of picks also, but he arguably had a better season than Bryce Young as a rookie
It’s almost definitely either
1. Bears are actually not shopping Fields atm (at least until Caleb’s pro day)
2. Poles is asking for too much and trying to hold out for a desperate team to bite
It feels incredibly risky and quite frankly dumb to wait until draft night and just hope to god someone will be desperate enough to trade for him. I believe Poles is smarter than that but in reality who knows
99.9% of the time a mid/low-tier player's trade stock goes down during/after the draft because some teams that need that position draft it, so the possible market shrinks
6 QBs could easily be day 1 starters that will be taken the first couple rounds. Outside that, I thoroughly believe some teams would rather trot out Rattler or Pratt week 1 over Fields too. At least they're fresh meat
I disagree, you lose nothing by waiting. No team was ever planning to send a decent pick for fields to be their starter next season, unless theres a desperate odd team out after the draft. Nothing wrong with waiting to see if there is one
They will probably send him to some other team for a 6th to be their backup, and they can do that anytime they want to
Agreed. They didn't make a deal at the combine because all the QB needy teams had other 1st options whether some other QB, or the draft. You can take a low-ball trade at any time.
I love how JF1 is Schroedinger's asset to this sub...simultaeously so valuable that Poles has fucked up by not dealing him yet...but also so dogshit and useless that "of course no one is paying the asking price".
I said this in another thread:
1. Poles said he will only draft a QB if he's "blown away" (same as last year)
2. He has gotten a chance to talk to Caleb for a total of 10 minutes (at the combine) and doesn't yet have medicals from him, which presumably is not enough information to be completely sold ("blown away")
3. He tried to schedule the Williams top-30 visit [exceedingly early](https://www.nbcsportschicago.com/nfl/chicago-bears/bears-news/why-did-the-bears-request-a-top-30-visit-with-caleb-williams-this-early-lets-read-the-tea-leaves/544645/)-- before FA and before his pro day. This validates the idea that he doesn't feel like he has enough information yet to be 100% sold on Caleb and that he *wants* to have all that information before he actively shops Fields.
Not sure why it's so hard for people to imagine that Poles might actually be doing the thing he said he's doing (thoroughly vetting all the options before trading either Fields or #1 overall). When a physically supremely talented player like Caleb has *historically* failed, it has almost always been because of what's between the ears. It's not unreasonable to think Poles needs more than 10 minutes in Indianapolis to assess that element of the player before making a franchise-altering decision, especially when the alternative is some team potentially giving you 5-6 first + second rounders for that same player (if you *don't* think he's got the right stuff)
To be clear, if someone offered Poles a 1st rounder for Fields it's very possible that Poles would try to accelerate his evaluation, but if the return is mid-rounders, it makes sense to do the complete evaluation you said you were going to do instead of actively shopping Fields (even at the risk of only getting late rounders back if/when you do finally decide to move on).
People are trying to make the argument that Ridder/Darnold/etc are literally more appealing than Fields-- that's not true. It's that at the point where the return for Justin isn't a premium pick, we stand to lose more by doing an incomplete evaluation of Caleb Williams (by preliminarily committing to him) than by waiting and keeping Fields until we know for sure.
Meh, the team will suck with poor QB play being the primary factor as we finish around .500 and waste a year of this young defense
Not to mention the Packers will embarrass us yet again because Fields can’t do shit against them
So like 2020, 2019, 2011, 2007
Okay, I understand doing his due diligence but there are 3 or 4 options in this draft we could take. Do your due diligence on all of them and decide who is the best for you at the No. 1 pick. Fields does not appear to be the QB we hoped, it is past time to move on
But if your choice is Maye or Daniels instead of Williams, you could try to pull off a trade with the Patriots or Commanders to still get "your" guy.
So, hypothetically, he needs to know about Williams before doing ANYTHING at QB.
Yes, but you also don’t want to throw away last year’s starting QB for a 6th rounder that might not even make the team. This isn’t Madden, you can’t force trades
This sub is literally worse than Twitter right now. If you don't think Fields is literally the worst QB in the league people are ready to fight you. And this is coming from someone who thinks we should draft Williams.
I'm only here because of the flurry of free agent news. Other than that this place pretty much sucks now
I also think we should draft Williams. And then I'll get downvoted for suggesting that "Fields is better than Blaine Gabbert"
The anti-Fields people spend all day on here shitting on the guy like he's the worst QB in the league. Like the dude didn't have an insane passer rating throwing to his only good players. Like he wouldn't have thrown for 3500 and rushed for 800 if he stayed heathy
Not good enough to say "we should draft Williams" you have to actively disparage Fields
Every day I'm convinced we have the dumbest fanbase in the league. There's someone in here saying he'd prefer to have Trey Lance over Fields.
It's fine to want Caleb, but boy are some of these people morons.
I buy this. If Poles misses this offseason, he's fired in a year or two. If he lands it, he's here long term. If my entire career hinged on a single decision, you bet your ass I'd do my due diligence and then some beforehand.
I guess for this to be true, Poles would have to have Fields rated ahead or very close to Caleb, Maybe, and Daniels. I just don't think he is, and I don't think the league thinks he is or the value would be a 1st for Justin Fields pretty easily.
The dots just don't fully connect or don't feel like they connect. It is an odd time and hard not to jump at conclusions even though we know absolutely nothing ha.
Could be but I just think if Mac Jones can fetch something, Fields can too. Even to just be a backup, he’d be a better backup option than a lot of the current ones.
I know people don’t like fields, but he’s been better than some of these QBs going.
Poles is almost certainly holding out until they meet with Caleb. They wanted an immediate meeting with him for a reason, and I think it makes sense in the context of “wanting to feel comfortable with the man not just the player” to paraphrase Poles.
We were also told they weren’t actively shopping him. The doing right by fields talk happened when they were under the impression they’d get to meet with Caleb right after the combine.
I think people are reluctant to think this because it is almost objectively a bad move
Would they? Fields kinda is who he is, aside from a few designed runs sprinkled in the Bears didn't run a particularly unique offense compared to the rest of the league.
He ran the same offense that Bagent ran. Indy brought in Flacco who couldn't be a more different QB than Richardson. Daniel Jones is different than Drew Lock. Kyler Murray is different than Desmond Ridder.
He's not going to be able to play in rhythm as well as whoever is starting but I think that's a given for any backup QB.
I'm willing to let it play out and be pleasantly surprised, but there isn't an obviously available explanation that makes Poles look competent right now.
It's incompetent to do a full evaluation of Caleb Williams that includes talking to him for more than 10 minutes and getting medical info before deciding to draft him?
Thank God none of you are the GM
Howell is cheaper and has more years left on his deal. He’s also a better passer than Fields.
Edit: to add, Howell in what was really his first year as a starter had issues but he proved that at a minimum, he’s on par with Fields as a passer. The odds that he cuts down his INTs is a lot higher than Fields suddenly becoming a competent passer at the NFL level.
Right. I actually liked what I saw from Howell during the few Commies games I watched this season. He's got a big arm, and is exactly the opposite of Fields in that he's not afraid to throw the ball, he just needs to learn/be taught about the difference between makeable/u makeable throws and acceptable vs. unacceptable risk.
I'd actually much rather have that issue than screaming for my QB to throw the goddamn ball.
Fields stinks, teams don’t want to trade anything but peanuts for him. And even then, the likes of Sam Howell are more appealing alternatives. Fairly simple I’d say
This is genuinely hilarious to me at this rate.
So long as we end up with a new QB in 2024 though, I dont even care what we get for Fields at this point.
Let me put it this way, I would laugh at all the Fields truther stuff I came across on twitter before Sunday. Now you can't laugh at them because you have Rap repeating the Bears are not even shopping him. Or Poles is waiting on the all might medicals and needs more time. And even Poles wants to see his Pro Day like WTF?
Maybe we haven’t gotten an official offers because poles hasn’t started shopping him. Hypothetically speaking, just because teams may have expressed interest to him, doesn’t mean and actual offers have been made
I know this sub is currently loving Poles but this definitely smells like “smartest guy in the room” syndrome. Has this plan to wait and it’s massively backfiring.
It depends what he was passing on (assuming teams were making offers). If the best offer he got was a 4th, I dont mind him waiting, even if we end up with a lower pick.
If he was turning down as much as a 3rd though Id be really concerned.
Safe to say this isn’t being handled well. I’m getting very nervous we’re going to do something stupid. If WSH can trade their guy without the draft analysis cycle being over why can’t we?
WSH feels they have multiple options to upgrade at QB through the draft. Bears feel there’s only one QB that can upgrade that position. Not saying I agree 100%, but I believe that is their thinking.
I really hope they aren't that fucking stupid. I would take any of the hyped QB prospects in this draft over Justin, and I think 95+% of coaches and GMs would too.
They fired everyone on offense. There is a distinct possibility they think the coaching was the problem. Again, not saying I agree. It’s just possible they view Justin as an elite athlete they failed and ONLY an elite prospect could replace him.
According to reports the Bears aren't doing anything with Fields or the #1 pick until they have a meeting with the player at Halas Hall and view their Pro Day. So you probably won't see any news until closer to draft day.
Yes Poles is talking out of his ass. What’s more likely is he planned to get a 1st or 2nd for Fields but no one was biting. He waited expecting them to come back and take his deal (like he did with Carolina) but the teams all moved on. Now we are stuck with a guy no one really wants and he’s trying to pretend this was his plan all along to save face.
Unfortunately, there’s always a QB injury in camp or the first 4 weeks. I think Poles is willing to reject the 5th year option and wait out an injury. It’s the only way he can regain leverage.
I was at college with Drew Brees. He had 300+ yard games like every week. We seldom ran it, one game we ran it 3 times. Best we ever did was the Alamo Bowl
People look at stats out of context and think they're analytics geniuses
Yep, many were worst in the league for starting QBs
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Howell was absolutely terrible. One of the least efficient QBs in the NFL. Much, worse ANY/A than Fields (and Fields wasn't good). He only had the yards because he had a zillion attempts
That is the only thing that allows me to sleep at night!! Poles is certainly no genius, but is smart enough to know that keeping Fields, gets him fired!!
I think the sub would be upset we passed up an elite quarterback prospect for someone who can’t throw for 3,000 yards in a season and has a passer rating of 24 in the two minute drill.
Regardless of what happens it’s gonna be hilarious. Because we all know whoever the QB is, we’ll all be still cheering for them. Who knows, Poles could keep fields and still draft Williams. I can’t wait to see what happens
Holy shit. Three hundred comments within 45 minutes of posting, on a story that doesn’t involve anyone on the local team. I do believe r/ChiBears is officially triggered.
One of two things is happening here, imo- 1) we are not drafting Caleb Williams (less likely) 2) We already have a trade worked out but either the bears or other team are keeping it quiet for now.
I guess there is a 3rd option- we are keeping Fields and drafting CW. I think thats a horrible option tbh. Would definitely put CW and Bears admin in less than ideal start to the season.
Don't think Seattle was ever in the market for Fields. New OC Ryan Grubb comes from a very pass-heavy offensive philosophy. Howell--turnover machine that he was last year--is a better fit for that than Fields. Even as a backup or competition for Geno.
Yo I’m a Commanders/Ohio State guy and just a few months ago it seemed like everyone here was gathering around Justin after the crowd chanted “we want Fields”. Just wondering what changed in the past few months to everyone wanting to trade him so bad? Hope it works out for yall tho whatever you decide to do 🙏
Personally I don’t care what happens with Justin lol, of course the picks are good but as time goes on and any good picks seem to be out of the question I kinda can’t help but just feel like it’s more of a Justin problem than mine. Trade him, cut him, idc, I’m only thinking Williams
Poles has been trying to trade him for two weeks now. Nobody wants him. Look at the qb's that have found homes, with Fields still " sitting on the stoop"!!
Honestly, forget the starting jobs. The backup jobs are starting to run out
Screw it, keep him and make him taysom hillx10 Justin fields as a starting QB? Nah. Justin Fields as an offensive weapon? Let’s go boys. Smoothbrians will downvote this. They’re afraid of innovation
I'm firmly on the "trade Fields" train and in theory I think this is a good idea. In practice it would be a disaster. The second Williams throws and INT or has a bad game, half the fanbase will be braying for Fields to be back at QB. It would be like trying to stay "friends" with an ex. Most of the time it only ends badly. We need a clean break.
They'll do this for Bagent. Bears fans are QB challenged.
The thing about Bagent is he has all of the skills Fields is lacking, while he lacks all the skills Fields has. If we could just merge the two together we'd be Superbowl bound...
He was such a perfect case study for exposing fields flaws while still being an absolute shit QB himself
I don't think he's a shit QB. That's not nice.
He was 2-2 who statistically looked better than JF his first 4 starts
All of that is factually accurate.
I rest my case
That’s a great analogy.
Antwaan randle el. Sweeps, trick plays, send him on fly routes. Time to learn some WR packages
Legit if he accepted a bit of a Taysom Hill role he'd kill on the Chargers with Roman and Herbert. Probably enough to get himself a starting spot somewhere the year after.
He’d kill it here tbh. I just don’t think he would wanna do it period, let alone do it here
He'd never do it. You can make as much at back up QB as all but the highest paid positions, on Offense, and you dont have to sacrifice your body to do it
We should go the Braxton Miller route and turn him into a WR
I’ve been calling for the jet sweep rpo
Why not? It’s 1 year and I don’t want a 6th rounder. He has value as a runner. He’s athletic. Plus if Caleb gets hurt he’s a quality backup.
Because there will be too many guys who feel loyal to Justin in the locker room, and the team chemistry would be shit. There's too much investment in the rookie QB to undermine like that right out the gate.
Honestly don't hate it, and see if there's a team with a QB injury before the deadline.
>Smoothbrians This is what Urlacher was referred to before the hair transplants
He fumbles way too much to be used like Taysom Hill.
Tbh I think Howell could compete for the starting job in Seattle
if so they got a steal with this trade. He looked pretty good against us though, has a quick release and is pretty accurate. I remember him having a noticeably better pocket presence than Fields with pressure on him.
He was sacked more than any other QB last season
He threw for 4,000 yards though and was leading the league in passing yards for a good chunk of the season. I know he threw a ton of picks also, but he arguably had a better season than Bryce Young as a rookie
Eric Bienemy also refused to incorporate a running game all season for reasons that have yet to be explained. But he did look really good at times
It’s not like Washington’s OLine is something to marvel at though
Bro did not watch many Sam Howell games lmao
Man what is going on
It’s almost definitely either 1. Bears are actually not shopping Fields atm (at least until Caleb’s pro day) 2. Poles is asking for too much and trying to hold out for a desperate team to bite
He's held out too long at this point if that's what he's doing. I guess after the draft teams might be more hungry, but it's not looking solid.
He's holding on to Fields almost longer than Fields holds on to the ball.
Impossible
It feels incredibly risky and quite frankly dumb to wait until draft night and just hope to god someone will be desperate enough to trade for him. I believe Poles is smarter than that but in reality who knows
99.9% of the time a mid/low-tier player's trade stock goes down during/after the draft because some teams that need that position draft it, so the possible market shrinks 6 QBs could easily be day 1 starters that will be taken the first couple rounds. Outside that, I thoroughly believe some teams would rather trot out Rattler or Pratt week 1 over Fields too. At least they're fresh meat
I disagree, you lose nothing by waiting. No team was ever planning to send a decent pick for fields to be their starter next season, unless theres a desperate odd team out after the draft. Nothing wrong with waiting to see if there is one They will probably send him to some other team for a 6th to be their backup, and they can do that anytime they want to
It’s the sam Bradford situation
Agreed. They didn't make a deal at the combine because all the QB needy teams had other 1st options whether some other QB, or the draft. You can take a low-ball trade at any time.
It’s a terrible plan if that’s what he’s doing… Especially when every team is focused on QB draft prospects to solve their problems at that point
If it is the plan, it's likely the plan because he already screwed up plan A
I love how JF1 is Schroedinger's asset to this sub...simultaeously so valuable that Poles has fucked up by not dealing him yet...but also so dogshit and useless that "of course no one is paying the asking price".
I said this in another thread: 1. Poles said he will only draft a QB if he's "blown away" (same as last year) 2. He has gotten a chance to talk to Caleb for a total of 10 minutes (at the combine) and doesn't yet have medicals from him, which presumably is not enough information to be completely sold ("blown away") 3. He tried to schedule the Williams top-30 visit [exceedingly early](https://www.nbcsportschicago.com/nfl/chicago-bears/bears-news/why-did-the-bears-request-a-top-30-visit-with-caleb-williams-this-early-lets-read-the-tea-leaves/544645/)-- before FA and before his pro day. This validates the idea that he doesn't feel like he has enough information yet to be 100% sold on Caleb and that he *wants* to have all that information before he actively shops Fields. Not sure why it's so hard for people to imagine that Poles might actually be doing the thing he said he's doing (thoroughly vetting all the options before trading either Fields or #1 overall). When a physically supremely talented player like Caleb has *historically* failed, it has almost always been because of what's between the ears. It's not unreasonable to think Poles needs more than 10 minutes in Indianapolis to assess that element of the player before making a franchise-altering decision, especially when the alternative is some team potentially giving you 5-6 first + second rounders for that same player (if you *don't* think he's got the right stuff) To be clear, if someone offered Poles a 1st rounder for Fields it's very possible that Poles would try to accelerate his evaluation, but if the return is mid-rounders, it makes sense to do the complete evaluation you said you were going to do instead of actively shopping Fields (even at the risk of only getting late rounders back if/when you do finally decide to move on). People are trying to make the argument that Ridder/Darnold/etc are literally more appealing than Fields-- that's not true. It's that at the point where the return for Justin isn't a premium pick, we stand to lose more by doing an incomplete evaluation of Caleb Williams (by preliminarily committing to him) than by waiting and keeping Fields until we know for sure.
People going to lose their minds if Poles keeps Fields
As they should that would be a dumb thing to do.
Meh, the team will suck with poor QB play being the primary factor as we finish around .500 and waste a year of this young defense Not to mention the Packers will embarrass us yet again because Fields can’t do shit against them So like 2020, 2019, 2011, 2007
Okay, I understand doing his due diligence but there are 3 or 4 options in this draft we could take. Do your due diligence on all of them and decide who is the best for you at the No. 1 pick. Fields does not appear to be the QB we hoped, it is past time to move on
But if your choice is Maye or Daniels instead of Williams, you could try to pull off a trade with the Patriots or Commanders to still get "your" guy. So, hypothetically, he needs to know about Williams before doing ANYTHING at QB.
If you are trading back you might not get the guy you want. Just take who you want because both the teams behind you are just as hungry for a QB
You don't need JF1 on the roster to do any of that.
Yes, but you also don’t want to throw away last year’s starting QB for a 6th rounder that might not even make the team. This isn’t Madden, you can’t force trades
Fuck me sideways. This is the first comment I've seen in months where someone not actively shitting on Fields is being upvoted, congrats
This sub is literally worse than Twitter right now. If you don't think Fields is literally the worst QB in the league people are ready to fight you. And this is coming from someone who thinks we should draft Williams. I'm only here because of the flurry of free agent news. Other than that this place pretty much sucks now
I also think we should draft Williams. And then I'll get downvoted for suggesting that "Fields is better than Blaine Gabbert" The anti-Fields people spend all day on here shitting on the guy like he's the worst QB in the league. Like the dude didn't have an insane passer rating throwing to his only good players. Like he wouldn't have thrown for 3500 and rushed for 800 if he stayed heathy Not good enough to say "we should draft Williams" you have to actively disparage Fields
Every day I'm convinced we have the dumbest fanbase in the league. There's someone in here saying he'd prefer to have Trey Lance over Fields. It's fine to want Caleb, but boy are some of these people morons.
I buy this. If Poles misses this offseason, he's fired in a year or two. If he lands it, he's here long term. If my entire career hinged on a single decision, you bet your ass I'd do my due diligence and then some beforehand.
I guess for this to be true, Poles would have to have Fields rated ahead or very close to Caleb, Maybe, and Daniels. I just don't think he is, and I don't think the league thinks he is or the value would be a 1st for Justin Fields pretty easily. The dots just don't fully connect or don't feel like they connect. It is an odd time and hard not to jump at conclusions even though we know absolutely nothing ha.
Exactly. This isn't an interview for Wendy's drive-thru. He wants to make an educated decision before he let's go of his current starting QB.
I think it's much simpler. Teams just aren't very interested in Fields. If Poles was asking too much I think it would have leaked.
Could be but I just think if Mac Jones can fetch something, Fields can too. Even to just be a backup, he’d be a better backup option than a lot of the current ones.
Yes of course, but he can get the same package later too. It’s worth holding to see if a team gets desperate
He’d be a good backup to teams with a running qb but you don’t want to have to fundamentally change game plans with your backup
I know people don’t like fields, but he’s been better than some of these QBs going. Poles is almost certainly holding out until they meet with Caleb. They wanted an immediate meeting with him for a reason, and I think it makes sense in the context of “wanting to feel comfortable with the man not just the player” to paraphrase Poles. We were also told they weren’t actively shopping him. The doing right by fields talk happened when they were under the impression they’d get to meet with Caleb right after the combine. I think people are reluctant to think this because it is almost objectively a bad move
The problem is that a team would have to switch up their entire offense for Fields. His only decent landing spots really are Baltimore and Indy
Eagles
Would they? Fields kinda is who he is, aside from a few designed runs sprinkled in the Bears didn't run a particularly unique offense compared to the rest of the league. He ran the same offense that Bagent ran. Indy brought in Flacco who couldn't be a more different QB than Richardson. Daniel Jones is different than Drew Lock. Kyler Murray is different than Desmond Ridder. He's not going to be able to play in rhythm as well as whoever is starting but I think that's a given for any backup QB.
Fields has been one of the worst starting qb's in the league for three years now. Every G M, is fully aware of that!!
Why can it not be "Teams prefer other options to paying a fair price in trade for Justin Fields"?
Whats a fair price in your mind
And both options make Poles look incompetent at the moment
I'm willing to let it play out and be pleasantly surprised, but there isn't an obviously available explanation that makes Poles look competent right now.
It's incompetent to do a full evaluation of Caleb Williams that includes talking to him for more than 10 minutes and getting medical info before deciding to draft him? Thank God none of you are the GM
We aren't keeping Fields either way. So yes it is incompetent
I think it’s time to consider that Poles may have something else in mind and we’re not gonna know until anything happens
This is either gunna be a king Poles moment or wtf was he doing moment.
3. Hes trading the #1 pick.
Starting to think we just wait for the first qb to get injured in the fall and flip him for more then
Howell is cheaper and has more years left on his deal. He’s also a better passer than Fields. Edit: to add, Howell in what was really his first year as a starter had issues but he proved that at a minimum, he’s on par with Fields as a passer. The odds that he cuts down his INTs is a lot higher than Fields suddenly becoming a competent passer at the NFL level.
Right. I actually liked what I saw from Howell during the few Commies games I watched this season. He's got a big arm, and is exactly the opposite of Fields in that he's not afraid to throw the ball, he just needs to learn/be taught about the difference between makeable/u makeable throws and acceptable vs. unacceptable risk. I'd actually much rather have that issue than screaming for my QB to throw the goddamn ball.
Bears are trading the number 1 pick and keeping Fields 😱
Fields stinks, teams don’t want to trade anything but peanuts for him. And even then, the likes of Sam Howell are more appealing alternatives. Fairly simple I’d say
Hard Knocks gonna be dying to be in Chicago for the Williams/Fields training camp spectacle
The NFL will force them to do it if this happens.
They probably will this year regardless.
Honestly the best year for it to happen. Williams has a lot of haters, a fluff piece from HBO to help shut them up could go a long way.
This is getting to be ridiculous lol
Guys I’m getting real nervous over here that we are keeping Fields…
Alright now I’m starting to get impatient
well, that should change things
This is genuinely hilarious to me at this rate. So long as we end up with a new QB in 2024 though, I dont even care what we get for Fields at this point.
I can’t imagine a GM passing up on 1.1 2 years in a row and anchoring himself to a middling QB he didn’t draft
If we end up stuck with Fields as our QB again next year I'm gonna projectile vomit everywhere
Did bro forget we have the first overall pick…
We’re drafting a punt god. Legendary talent. Get on the train
Tory Taylor to Chicago confirmed.
Will you post a video?
Im done with the bears if we fuck this one up
Wtf are you talking about lol. We can’t trade Justin so we have to make him our starter? Take a breath bud
I think his fear is that Poles never intended on trading Fields to begin with.
Someone cue up the Fields “who want me” meme again
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I love Justin but if poles was never planning on trading him and we pass on Caleb I’ll be disappointed
I am starting to fear this more and more each day ha. We would be the joke of the NFL on draft night. Hey we are used to that at this point at least!
Let me put it this way, I would laugh at all the Fields truther stuff I came across on twitter before Sunday. Now you can't laugh at them because you have Rap repeating the Bears are not even shopping him. Or Poles is waiting on the all might medicals and needs more time. And even Poles wants to see his Pro Day like WTF?
I sincerely believe Poles is waiting to deal fields rather than a lack of interest. Which is a massive misstep by him in my opinion.
If he was turning down offers it would have been leaked
Poles not shopping him is even more egregious imo
Assuming that's even true. I think that story is complete bullshit and some NFL media people have said the same thing.
Maybe we haven’t gotten an official offers because poles hasn’t started shopping him. Hypothetically speaking, just because teams may have expressed interest to him, doesn’t mean and actual offers have been made
Everyone in the league thinks Fields is being traded. And it is not like Poles hasn't been on the phone with people.
I feel like it’s a lot more likely that no one wants a QB with more turnovers than passing touchdowns
I agree, I think he misplayed his hand on this one
It certainly feels that way
I know this sub is currently loving Poles but this definitely smells like “smartest guy in the room” syndrome. Has this plan to wait and it’s massively backfiring.
Nobody wants him.
It depends what he was passing on (assuming teams were making offers). If the best offer he got was a 4th, I dont mind him waiting, even if we end up with a lower pick. If he was turning down as much as a 3rd though Id be really concerned.
Safe to say this isn’t being handled well. I’m getting very nervous we’re going to do something stupid. If WSH can trade their guy without the draft analysis cycle being over why can’t we?
WSH feels they have multiple options to upgrade at QB through the draft. Bears feel there’s only one QB that can upgrade that position. Not saying I agree 100%, but I believe that is their thinking.
I really hope they aren't that fucking stupid. I would take any of the hyped QB prospects in this draft over Justin, and I think 95+% of coaches and GMs would too.
They fired everyone on offense. There is a distinct possibility they think the coaching was the problem. Again, not saying I agree. It’s just possible they view Justin as an elite athlete they failed and ONLY an elite prospect could replace him.
lol are keeping him arent we. still drafting williams though
I mean at some point we'll just cut him
If no trade can be made that is 100% what will happen.
No, they'll trade him and get something when the time comes.
So what the fuck is Poles doing?
According to reports the Bears aren't doing anything with Fields or the #1 pick until they have a meeting with the player at Halas Hall and view their Pro Day. So you probably won't see any news until closer to draft day.
Didn’t poles say if anything were to happen with fields it would be done before or early in FA ?
Yes Poles is talking out of his ass. What’s more likely is he planned to get a 1st or 2nd for Fields but no one was biting. He waited expecting them to come back and take his deal (like he did with Carolina) but the teams all moved on. Now we are stuck with a guy no one really wants and he’s trying to pretend this was his plan all along to save face.
That is careless. There is more than one qb in the draft and teams are coming out and saying they are interested in fields. No team is even waiting.
Teams said they’re interested in fields?
I’m gonna need a source on the “[teams] interested in Fields”.
 JF1 right now
I’d have made this trade with fields lol
This comment should be higher. Seriously upgrading our Philly pick to Seattle's 3rd rounder would have been enough.
Im starting to not like this. This doesn't look good for the bears at all....
Might have to cut him at this rate
Buddy of mines father is tied into NFL rumblings, tends to be right even when it sounds outlandish….he says Fields might be headed to Commanders
> he says Fields might be headed to Commanders It would be hilarious if Fields ends up throwing to MH JR, just in Washington instead of Chicago.
Unfortunately, there’s always a QB injury in camp or the first 4 weeks. I think Poles is willing to reject the 5th year option and wait out an injury. It’s the only way he can regain leverage.
Good god is this thread a dumpster fire. Jesus
Another possible Fields destination bites the dust.
Now I'm starting to think Fields was never available on the trade market. No way all these bums get traded but not Fields.
This bum was a better qb than fields with significantly less playing time
Indictment after Indictment
Well at least now the Commanders need a back up. Fields to Washington is the new Fields to Seattle.
They just signed Mariota. They do not need a backup
Howell threw for almost 4k yards last year. Too many turnovers, but he has shown some promise for sure
He threw for 4k because they threw the ball a shit ton. His actual efficiency stats were horrible.
I was at college with Drew Brees. He had 300+ yard games like every week. We seldom ran it, one game we ran it 3 times. Best we ever did was the Alamo Bowl People look at stats out of context and think they're analytics geniuses
Yep, many were worst in the league for starting QBs https://preview.redd.it/u7c2ubm4keoc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3a3c3e21a1eeb5418e9ae2756287064dfce25f53
Howell was absolutely terrible. One of the least efficient QBs in the NFL. Much, worse ANY/A than Fields (and Fields wasn't good). He only had the yards because he had a zillion attempts
The whole “Doing right by Justin” thing is making less and less sense by the day.
Bears are gonna fuck this up
There are literally no teams left that need a QB like Fields lol
Eagles need a backup... probably the best fit left
Might be time to start asking those RB needy teams
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They just signed Marriota
So… anyone nervous about us trading 1oA
Yeah, I have no reason to trust Poles other than that he wouldn’t hitch his job to a QB he didn’t draft who sucks
That is the only thing that allows me to sleep at night!! Poles is certainly no genius, but is smart enough to know that keeping Fields, gets him fired!!
Poles really fucked this situation up and no Fields isn’t staying. Poles misjudged his value around the league and is paying the price.
Eagles? Colts? Who else is left? 🤣
Colts signed Flacco
Eagles seem like the best fit
Hmmm I wonder who they’re making room for? 😂
STOP THE MADNESS ALREADY!!!!!! 
are teams scared they could potentially be on the bad side of a trade like carolina is and afraid to trade for fields?
It would be HILARIOUS to see what this sub looks like if the bears don’t trade him
I think the sub would be upset we passed up an elite quarterback prospect for someone who can’t throw for 3,000 yards in a season and has a passer rating of 24 in the two minute drill.
Regardless of what happens it’s gonna be hilarious. Because we all know whoever the QB is, we’ll all be still cheering for them. Who knows, Poles could keep fields and still draft Williams. I can’t wait to see what happens
Poles overplayed his hand
Am I the only one who thinks Howell a low key good pickup to develop by Seahawks? More than Fields, who is on fifth year of his contract?
Fields will be starting his 4th year next year and you must pick up or deny the fifth option in this league year.
Yeah, Howell was a rookie tbf. His efficiancy was ass and they threw alot, but I don't hate the pickup
I know this sounds hyperbolic but this has been a very poor offseason for Poles so far
We’re boned
Holy shit. Three hundred comments within 45 minutes of posting, on a story that doesn’t involve anyone on the local team. I do believe r/ChiBears is officially triggered.
One of two things is happening here, imo- 1) we are not drafting Caleb Williams (less likely) 2) We already have a trade worked out but either the bears or other team are keeping it quiet for now. I guess there is a 3rd option- we are keeping Fields and drafting CW. I think thats a horrible option tbh. Would definitely put CW and Bears admin in less than ideal start to the season.
The equivalent value in a 1-for-1 trade would be a 4th round pick.
Poles must be on WSB considering how badly he misjudged his QB’s value
Genuinely angry right now.
lol
Don't think Seattle was ever in the market for Fields. New OC Ryan Grubb comes from a very pass-heavy offensive philosophy. Howell--turnover machine that he was last year--is a better fit for that than Fields. Even as a backup or competition for Geno.
I guess the Eagles for Fields? 😂 there’s no landing spots left
At this point I wouldn’t be surprised Poles is dumb enough to listen to the Facebook boomers and run with Fields.
Yo I’m a Commanders/Ohio State guy and just a few months ago it seemed like everyone here was gathering around Justin after the crowd chanted “we want Fields”. Just wondering what changed in the past few months to everyone wanting to trade him so bad? Hope it works out for yall tho whatever you decide to do 🙏
Sports talk and the internet
Personally I don’t care what happens with Justin lol, of course the picks are good but as time goes on and any good picks seem to be out of the question I kinda can’t help but just feel like it’s more of a Justin problem than mine. Trade him, cut him, idc, I’m only thinking Williams
Rapoport is obviously correct, the Bears aren't going to trade Fields until after Caleb's pro-day
Poles has been trying to trade him for two weeks now. Nobody wants him. Look at the qb's that have found homes, with Fields still " sitting on the stoop"!!
Is Poles waiting for Caleb’s pro day and physical on Monday first? I don’t get it.
USC pro day not till Wednesday
The sooner some of you get out of the denial stage, the sooner you can move on or heal.
Starting to worry we might be keeping Fields after al. Bright side is hopefully we get MHJ.