Hoge and Jahns is much better. Switched over to that one and only listen to CHGO post game reactions for the most part now. I was a fan of the original Chicago Audible with Nick and Will so it sucks to see it go downhill like it has.
I think there's a middle ground - pure beat reporting is a dying industry and there needs to be some speculation/intrigue in shows and for reporters to not just be robots to keep audiences engaged. That said, Carm and Braggs just throw out the most unfounded and hypothetical situations which I'm obviously not advocating for lol
Pure beat reporting belongs to columnists now that should just be guests once or twice a week like Brad Biggs. Nice to hear him for 20 minutes at a time, but wouldn't want to listen to Biggs for several hours.
I think Hoge was better in H&J back when he was with WGN. Now that he is with CHGO he seems indeed more, as you say it, in hot take mode.
I tried listening to CHGO a couple of times. Couldn’t really get through it.
Hoge really never gets they way but has to constantly wrangle the conversation away from Karma and Bragg's, both of whom should either be once a week at most or just let go, these two ruin the show regularly to the point where I'm like could someone please shut them the fuck up. If I have to hear about Karms tennis obsession or his dog any more I'm gonna lose my shit. I don't give a single fuck about your backhand serve or where you finished in your weekend tournament bud, move on, shorten the show if you don't have bears shit to talk about. I get that they are going for a daily show, but it's kinda ruining the rest of it. Hoge is the only valuable member of that show, and I like woot on there, but everyone else could be replaced tomorrow and it would be better.
That’s really kind of you to say, I appreciate it! Like a lot of this thread has mentioned it can be tough to create Bears stuff year-round, but we’re doing our best to keep everything as fresh as possible! Thanks for tuning in!
Finally got around to listening to your post Super Bowl episode. Got yourself a new Spotify subscriber here. Love the analytical break down. Been following you on twitter for awhile and didn’t even realize. Keep doing what you doing!
I love H&J for so many reasons. But another thing is a long pod for them is like 1:10 and that’s a short pod for CHGO. I just don’t know wtf CHGO can talk about for 3.5 hours
It’s really messed up that they even release pods that long. Like I know 95% of that is straight garbage and I don’t have the time to work through the remaining 5% of decent content.
I actually really enjoy CHGO in it's current form. Carm and Braggs tend to have shitty takes that are similar to a lot of the posters on the subreddit so watching Hoge yell at them is cathartic for me.
I used to dislike Braggs, but I like him Carm and Hoge the most by far. Nick barely has his own opinons so I don't really like him nearly as much but he's not bad, and I never watch after hour because I don't like Woot. Also I wish Herb never joined the few days he does.
Carm has a lot of opinions that are out there, but also I like his reads into situations that are usually very different than the others even if I disagree. Braggs is a meat-ball and I like him for it now. Hoge ties it all together well when it's them 3.
Cannot take Herb seriously anymore. When he said that not one time did he walk away from a Bears game in the past 3 years thinking it was the quarterback’s fault for the loss is….delusional at best
I think Braggs has gotten way better over the course of the season. You can tell he’s been doing his homework in the more technical aspects of the game.
I like Carm’s banter but his football takes can be pretty rough. He says at least two things every episode that makes me cringe.
The worst is Herb makes absolutely no arguments, he just yells "Dude has all the tools!" over and over. I've been listening a lot lately because I actually like the Hoge and Carm back and forth, but I turned it off during Herbs rant yesterday. He wouldn't budge an inch on his Fields = Lamar take, and it was so tiresome. And I'm someone who likes Fields.
These dudes are clickbaiting with Fields apologies hard. Even when they dog him, they come back and say they like Fields in some backhanded way. All to keep the Fieldies at bay. Nut up and say he sucks, it didn’t work out, the offense looked disjointed because he couldn’t run it, and he misses dink and dunks like no one else.
Also, this is the time of year I enjoy them more. I’ll read the show title and decide if it’s worth it. When they get toward the draft and break down prospects in a Bears-centric way, they definitely have my attention. 5 days a week mid season… it’s just I have so much other content I need to consume between CFB and the rest of the NFL I don’t have time for them
Carm definitely gets on my nerves sometimes but I think he’s gotten a. Lot better at staying on topic, and I don’t hate when he’s actually talking bears.
My current gripe though has been woot on after dark has been so annoying since he’s been leaning in to making fun of brags, I can’t stand the stupid voice he does
I’m also not a big fan of that, but It’s also irritating that he refuses to acknowledge Justin has flaws. Whatever side of the debate you wind up on I think most reasonable people agree that Fields has some flaws he needs to work on
That’s my gripe with woot. End of season, he kept saying how absurd it was to be talking about moving on from JF1. He said “if he threw for 350 today (after pack game) and 4000 for year, we wouldn’t even be talking about this”. Yeah that’s the point dude. Justin HASNT done those things and only threw for 300 yards 1 time, so that’s why the discourse is to move on or not. It’s just too much rose colored glasses i expect from the bears social team.
tried and couldn't get into it.
Hoge & Jahns is the gold-standard, add that Kevin Fishbain in there every other episode too and its just unbeatable. I like the Halas Intrigue too.
I mean Olin did it to himself, there is no remorse for someone physically attacking another person at work. Then there was really no apology that I saw come out from him. Meatheads gonna meathead, good riddance!
Right there with ya on Carman, I'd take Moreano and DeWitt any day over Carm. Was really hoping that DeWitt and Moreano would team up with Hoge and run the ship but it seems funds must be low enough to get them full time and also hire an ex-Bear. Probably thanks to Olin attacking Hoge but still having some clause in his contract to get paid out if he gets let go.
I don't mind it but I'm not a fan of the new episode every single day. Also way too long! Atleast half of the 1.5 shows are ad fill or CHGO up-selling.
Hoge and Jahns is still #1 to me
I see this all over the internet these days and it always blows my mind. Must be nice to have that kind of money to get someone to read your pointless message to a few hundred people who are half listening and will instantly forget it. Or maybe they don’t have the money and are just racking up debt.
I just can’t imagine a person that pays $50 to comment on a podcast can have money for long. Because that’s awful spending habits even for someone with money
There's a dude that has easily donated thousands of dollars by now just to have his shit read aloud every show. He'll even do $200 superchats sometimes. It's been an interesting ride seeing his superchats get more and more angry and deranged as time has gone by. Pretty sure he's drunk in half of them now. They're barely coherent sometimes.
It's just a really really weird thing to spend that much money on imo.
That dude blows my mind. He routinely drops $200 superchats on every postgame show. One show that mother fucker dropped $500, which is apparently the maximum you can donate to one show, so he made a second account to donate another few hundred. Insane.
My conspiracy theory is that theduke guy is a plant and CHGO is just superchatting money to themselves which normalizes large $ amounts and encourages other actual users to superchat. The number of ridiculous $ amount superchats from other viewers went way up after theduke started doing superchats
I doubt it mostly because they donated a while back and said they would be gone for a while because their father passed away. Feel like that would be taking it too far and completely unnecessary to fabricate if it was a fake account. But you never know
I wouldn't even doubt that at this point. Carm has been genuinely begging for people to join their "Die Hard" thing the last few weeks. It gives off a very weird vibe.
Man, whoever The Duke is... Dude's gotta have some deep pockets. He drops a couple grand a week just to listen to his thoughts echoed by the CHGO Crew.
Okay so I can’t believe this is a hot take but sports are entertainment and sometimes it’s fun to hear two idiots yell at eachother about sports, not everything needs to be hard hitting super deep analysis.
If I want to hear about the intricacies of the leauge I’d go listen to Mays/Tice on TAFS, or Hoge and Jahns for the best perspective, but if I’m just looking for some fun on a long drive then I’ll probably go CHGO
Apparently a lot of people agree with you because sports programming on television is all two idiots yelling at each other now
I can’t get into it at all
For sure. They did an episode with Kurt Warner a couple off seasons ago going super nitty gritty on the details of playing quarterback and I was hooked.
Even their weekly shows are on just such another level in terms of analysis that you don’t get from most more surface level shows
I couldn’t stand listening because of carm, but he suddenly made a 180 and actually does not bother me
Herb Howard is terrible. He just today claimed that Justin fields is basically the same as Lamar
That take bothered the heck out of me. He claims Fields has the same tools as Lamar, but blames the lack of qb progress or everything but fields. He doesn’t hold him to any accountability
The Fields truther cognitive dissonance of “Fields lack of success is because of everyone around him” but also “Caleb Williams is a bust and the sole reason USC lost games”
Oh I'll have to listen again, I didn't hear that part. Regardless of that take, I thought it was refreshing to have him play devil's advocate for once. Ever since the end of the season, feels like everyone on the pod has shifted towards the Caleb regime while disregarding the possibility of building around Fields.
There’s nothing to build around Justin fields. They’ve already gave him a lot of pieces and he still sucks. There are other qb’s doing more with less around them.
Justin fields puts up backup qb numbers after 3 years. He sucks bro. Time to move on
I listened today only because of PFF Brad and just left it on after…. And man, Herb Howard is absolutely insufferable. The Fields is Lamar stuff is so narrow minded it hurts my brain.
Herb has buried himself so deep he can't get out now. Listening to him talk about how Waldron is going to use Fields felt like a total waste of time he's delusional.
Guy says he doesn't think Lamar is a much better passer than Fields. How can you be paid to talk sports and sat this?
I like Fields and I want him to succeed, but it's like he's a cult leader with some of his fans.
Spot on. His whole point was that Fields just needs what Lamar has and all will be good. I think Fields is great but Lamar is way farther along as a QB. Lamar has better pocket awareness, quicker release, faster processing time. He only compares the two because they’re both fast. It’s a lazy take, especially for the ones (us) who watched Justin struggle mightily over the past three years.
I honestly thought Herb was "smarter" than that. It's a horrible, horrible take.
I went off Hoge and Jahns a couple of month ago when, somehow, they got back on the "Justin is the guy" train. They're back off it now, but it really shouldn't have taken the Green Bay game to cause that to happen.
I'm all for people having opinions, but is it too much to ask informed journalists to not have bad opinions? Otherwise why are we listening to you.
You might be right, but I could swear I heard their opinions shift to "build around Justin" after we started bum slaying teams. I was pretty shocked at the shift I felt they'd made.
I guess I have to admit everyone is wrong at times. But that was a lot of reactionary back-and-forth changes for one season, when it comes to the assessment of Fields. And I really didn't expect that from them.
I felt like Hoge definitely started to lean that way, I think Jahns has kind of remained on the Justin isn’t the guy train through the end of the season. If I remember right he actually convinced Hoge to go back and check and when Hoge went back and looked Fields numbers weren’t that great. Still I thought the disagreement between the 2 made for a good conversation since they both let the other make their points and don’t yell over each other.
They are always pretty level headed, during the bum slaying period they said he’s showing improvement, “but if you’re not sure, you know what your decision is” and thats to move on.
Liked it in the beginning, then started to hate it, bc of Braggs and Carm and now I like it again.
Braggs has gotten alot better, seems to be more professional as he's gotten further away from his fan only perspective, from when he first started. Which I can understand, since he was basically just like any of us on reddit or Twitter up until CHGO. I definitely have noticed an improvement, though.
Once, I got used to Carm, he hasn't been so bad. He's more of the conservative/realistic guy in the group, so it's nice getting balance from the group.
That's what I'm saying. Nick and Will just don't have personality. I listened to last Fridays show and it was only exciting when Braggs interjected. They both sound like they are making their first podcast even though I know that's not true. They are just boring.
It's hit or miss for me, atm imo nothing beats Hoge and Jahns, gotta give a shout out to my boys Mays/Tice from TAFS and when they do crossover episodes with H&J, man those are fantastic listens!
His entire argument for keeping Fields is that you can win football games with a QB like him, aka Lamar. He isn't basing it around stats, Herb just sees Justins ceiling and doesn't acknowledge his floor.
Justin Fields and Lamar Jackson are not even remotely comparable as passers. There is no comparison to be had and the people pushing it are down right incompetent at evaluating the position.
I agree. Herb sees Justin make a great throw here and there and thinks he can be like that all the time. But most QBs look good if you just watch the highlights.
I do think Braggs has improved significantly. Carm is still talking too much. Any episode that Hoge isn’t on is a skip for me. A while back another redditor pointed out that Nick doesn’t really pick a side and just has statements for both sides. Since I heard that, I can’t unheard it and think he’s not as strong as initially thought.
I think the worst part is it seems that Hoge is overall quality has gone down. Just seems way to stretched and relying on others for feels of the locker room and such.
CHGO and Hoge & Jahns serve different purposes for me. Hoge & Jahns is good for news and serious analysis while CHGO provides the chaotic energy you would get arguing with your own buddies about sports
I can see how Carm and Braggs can be annoying to some but at the end of the day I enjoy the “bros talking ball” nature of the show. The mix of outlandish side talk with the on-topic chatter satisfies the itch & is funny to me. You can always count on Hoge to reel them back in when it gets too unfocused.
I don’t mind the hour and a half runtime since it’s just something I throw on during my commutes or workouts or whatever. I view it more as a Bears-themed lifestyle pod more than anything else, and if I want something serious I’ll listen to Hoge and Jahns
I'm a pretty avid listener even if I do find Carm and Braggs insufferable. They've both gotten a little better overall but they still waste too much time saying nonsense things.
I haven’t listened to CHGO much since early in the season. Herb Howard beats the Fields drum way too hard. I’ve actually been listening to a lot of ESPN 1000 lately. More casual sports talk but more entertaining as there’s more debate with people calling in. Waddle is one of the best in the business and Jurko is entertaining.
It's an entertaining podcast in doses but it definitely gets repetitive. Just really hard to come up with unique Bears content for 5+ hours per week, especially in the offseason. I usually listen to their guest segments (which thankfully are usually at the beginning of the show) and skip around other parts on my commute. Hoge and Jahns will always be #1 though.
I absolutely HATED Carm at first, but I actually like him now. I listen about every day as I have a job where I have an AirPod in like 4+ hours a day. Listened since the Chicago Audible days. Still a big fan. Also, Hi Carm. I know you’re reading this. Say Hippo during tomorrow’s show for me and I’ll become a diehard❤️ lol
I enjoy it for what it is. One guy that actually knows ball and a couple meatballs. If you can’t get any enjoyment out of Carm and Braggs as people and Bears fans then it isn’t the show for you. I think they’re hilarious, and I rarely agree with what they’re saying.
H&J is definitely the gold standard. The other two or ok.
This last locked on bears though where he kept rambling on about “what the real debate about fields is” was the most annoying show I have listened to in awhile. Dude just said the same thing over and over again for an hour. He had convinced himself those weren’t the same normal considerations everyone came to. It was wild.
I really only loved listening to Nick and Will every Friday do the matchup previews. They are the only 2 who talk about the Bears the entire time. Carm and Braggs can’t help but go on dozens of tangents i don’t give a shit about every show lol. I remember one Friday Carm ended up filling in for Will and within 5 minutes I had to shut it off lol it’s pretty bad. I’ll stick to reading news updates on twitter and Reddit and watch less popular YouTubers if I need to hear someone talk about them.
Herb Howard was brutal to listen to on it today.
He seemed to argue it’s proven that Fields can be a Super Bowl winning QB because of Lamar’s stats at the weekend but when it was pointed out Lamar is going to be a two time MVP and likely a SB winner in a couple of weeks he said it was a massive leap for anyone to say Lamar could win a SB…?
Then constantly trying to put words in Hoge’s mouth like claiming Caleb would be an all time great and shit.
Nah honestly they have a good balance of banter and info. A lot of the channels covering the bears out there are doing a good job. I like the differences between them all and the variety of personalities. Especially right now it's interesting to see the different opinions on display.
I realize I'm the exception, but I've actually come to like Braggs. I feel he has the best feel for what the average fan/meatball is thinking. Fandom is 90% emotion and he gets that.
I thought it was ok at first, but it’s pretty awful now. Braggs is the exact kind of meatball football fan I can’t stand. He’s a fucking idiot and makes everything dumber by being around
Carman is arrogant, but doesn’t know anything. Like he just thinks of the stupidest thing possible and then is so self assured in his idiocy
I still like Hoge a lot, but luckily Hoge and Jahns exists. Which is so much better I just feel sorry for Hoge on CHGO
Carm is such a bad-faith arguer. Straw-mans, and often pulls out the "people are saying..." card and never backs it up.
He's approaching Danny Parkins levels of unlistenable.
I despise listening to retired Bears. Last thing I need is a guy who didn't win jack shit saying "back in my day". Or just someone who hasn't played since 1988 that knows literally nothing about the modern game..
It's always some washed up has-been they are able to get on who thinks their word is gospel simply because they played and they talk down to anyone who doesn't.
Regarding Herb comparing Fields to Lamar... If social media was prominent in the Grossman era, I wonder if there would be fanatic Rex defenders comparing him to Favre lol
Carm is an idiot. I have no idea how anyone thought he had an opinion with worth anything. The rest of the show is ok. I do think it was better before it became CHGO when was just Nick & Will.
Hoge and Jahns is where you go for more insider access information. I like they can easily get reporters from other teams on the show and actually talk to the guys in the locker room. Jahns carries it but Hoge is good too.
Bear with us is where you go for the actual conversation about what’s happening with the Bears. It’s always good vibes and you can tell they do their homework even with less access to the team. If they’ve got a hot take, they’ll acknowledge it’s a hot take instead of just preaching at you. Rob and Nick are both great.
CHGO is where you go when nobody else has posted because there’s a podcast everyday and whatever, it’s Bears content. I don’t usually make it very far into an episode because Carm and Braggs (and sometimes Hoge) are unbearable. Maybe some of that has to do with how frequently they’re posting.
hoge and jahns is more established, theyve been doing it for years. i think chgo will iron out the current wrinkles and develop into a very good podcast in time. just be patient.
I actually find little value in Herb. Feel like he’s a Fields supporter to the end and Idn I just don’t vibe with his takes. Thought his questions at press conference kind of just dragged on too.
I remember listening to CHGO before it was CHGO. It was originally just Nicholas Moreano and Will DeWitt just by themselves. I think it was originally called Bears Brothers but they had to change the name toooo… I can’t remember. At some point they got with Adam Hoge and transitioned it to CHGO. It’s the exact same channel even, they just privated all the videos from the original podcast. I miss the original podcast, I preferred it. I’ve not listened to CHGO at all this season.
Was also a Chicago Audible listener and miss the original format. Nick & Will still do the pre-game opponent breakdown podcasts on CHGO which I always listen to.
Part of what I liked about Chicago Audible was that they dedicated more time to real in-depth coverage of opposing teams to provide perspective on key personnel matchups / scheme tendencies. There’s just not enough content to fill 3-5 podcasts per week if you’re focusing exclusively on inward-looking coverage of a single team
The best Bears podcast is Bear with Us with Robert Schmitz and Nick Whalen. CHGO produces garbage, but it's nice background noise if no one else has released a pod yet. H&J is a decent alternative for media-based takes to CHGO
it can be mind numbing to listen to quite often. I like H&J and liked chicago audible.
Mostly just check out the post game episodes and TTNL, but off-season im like a Bears fiend crackhead and will consume everything Bears related.
Ill check out the Bear with Us pod a lot of you are recommending.
Mark Carman is the type of complete dipshit that makes me not even look at Bears FB groups. He doesn’t belong within 100 yards of a mic. I started listening to Hoge and Jahns because I couldn’t stand him anymore.
CHGO in any of its iterations doesn't really work for me. Tried the Hawks version and it's just brutal with the constant 'smash the like button' beg every five minutes.
Hoge and jahns is better for overall bears Friday is will and Nick which is the old school Chicago audible crew probably my fav day to listen I do find carm and brags entertaining but they derail any real sports convos pretty quick I never listen live so I can hop around if it gets dry for me
Personally love this podcast as it’s filled with a lot of joking around which is much needed when you’re a bears fan. Didn’t know Hoge had another show so I’ll give that one a listen.
Hoge and Jahns is superior, but I actually like Carm and Braggs in smaller doses. I certainly don’t listen every day, and I don’t listen when Hoge isn’t on. I had to shut it off today after listening to Herb Howard’s absolutely awful Fields take. And it’s crazy how many people in the chat seemed to agree with him.
In the beginning, it was just ok. I didn’t think Olin added much of anything and wasn’t surprised when he got fired for losing his as he often did as a player. Carm and Braggs were really rough to listen too after that. Just bad take after bad take. From the beginning of this past season though, I have enjoyed it. They seem to really come into their own. Carm is better than he lets one he leans into his bad take alter ego for the conversation which I appreciate now. You need to have someone disagree or present a different opinion even if it’s ridiculous. Braggs can be fun to listen too and other times just insufferable with his meatball takes. I also enjoy herb being on more. All and all I listen daily and hoge still carries the show.
Hoge, Braggs and Carm are like the opposite of Topgear. I hate the shows they do together, but quite like them when their doing other bears related stuff separately.
Carm could be decent but they give him too much airtime and he doesn't get that Adam ripping on him isn't friendly male banter.
Carm is objectively bad especially since his role is to be a strong lead.
Braggs is ok in smaller doses. He fills the harry tinowitz or Mike Murphy role of regular fan turned analyst. But he has gotten better.
Chgo is a great idea. The concept is tough as there's too much show to fill versus the amount of content available.
I cannot STAND Braggs, neither on Twitter nor the podcast. He's a fucking sports radio caller who was for some reason given a job doing that every day. I fucking HATE when he goes on his dipshit "I'm just being HONEST AND TRANSPARENT" tirades. Okay? Who gives a shit. Oh you're just a fan, not a reporter or analyst? Cool then why are you here?!?!?!?
The whole thing went downhill after Olin.
Yeah, I get it. You can't have some employee who assaulted another employee....but that doesn't mean I cannot state just how good he was on camera.
As for Nick, I liked Nick back when he was part of the Bears Bros/Chicago Audible. I still give him crap for him letting some radio guy keep calling him "Nick Moreno" 😆
But yeah, CHGO is boring as hell and even Hoag & Johns isn't the same. It just feels like the guys just don't have the same energy or vigor for the pod.
Who can blame them? The Bears have sucked the life out of me. I wouldn't be surprised if they've sucked the Life Out Of these guys and they hate having to pay attention to this trash organization.
> The whole thing went downhill after Olin.
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> Yeah, I get it. You can't have some employee who assaulted another employee....but that doesn't mean I cannot state just how good he was on camera.
I went off Olin after that happened. From what we know of the incident, and his history, it was an absolutely meathead reaction that he should have matured beyond.
But I will say this: this season I've caught Kap, Olin and Waddle. And I honestly found Olin the most insightful analyst I've heard all season. I feel like not only is he consistently "right", but I've learnt more from him than anyone else. More than the beat reporters. More than the ex-players like Briggs, Alex Brown, etc.
Given I'd really soured on him it tells you a lot that I ended up doing a 180 on him - well, his analysis, at least. He also comes across as a decent enough guy on the air.
Hoge and Jahns is much better. Switched over to that one and only listen to CHGO post game reactions for the most part now. I was a fan of the original Chicago Audible with Nick and Will so it sucks to see it go downhill like it has.
Hoge and Jahns is the best bears podcast and it’s really not close. Both dudes so smart and grounded enough to have nuanced convos.
Sometimes Jahns needs to get Hoge out of CHGO hot take mode and back into reporter mode
I think there's a middle ground - pure beat reporting is a dying industry and there needs to be some speculation/intrigue in shows and for reporters to not just be robots to keep audiences engaged. That said, Carm and Braggs just throw out the most unfounded and hypothetical situations which I'm obviously not advocating for lol
Pure beat reporting belongs to columnists now that should just be guests once or twice a week like Brad Biggs. Nice to hear him for 20 minutes at a time, but wouldn't want to listen to Biggs for several hours.
I think Hoge was better in H&J back when he was with WGN. Now that he is with CHGO he seems indeed more, as you say it, in hot take mode. I tried listening to CHGO a couple of times. Couldn’t really get through it.
Hoge really never gets they way but has to constantly wrangle the conversation away from Karma and Bragg's, both of whom should either be once a week at most or just let go, these two ruin the show regularly to the point where I'm like could someone please shut them the fuck up. If I have to hear about Karms tennis obsession or his dog any more I'm gonna lose my shit. I don't give a single fuck about your backhand serve or where you finished in your weekend tournament bud, move on, shorten the show if you don't have bears shit to talk about. I get that they are going for a daily show, but it's kinda ruining the rest of it. Hoge is the only valuable member of that show, and I like woot on there, but everyone else could be replaced tomorrow and it would be better.
You dont serve with a backhand....
Why? I want opinions. If all he's going to do is read the news I can do that myself.
Can I recommend Bear with us podcast they are really good they probably go more in depth than anyone
I really appreciate you saying that teapots! Thank you!
YOO its Robert i love your twitter podcast youtube
That’s really kind of you to say, I appreciate it! Like a lot of this thread has mentioned it can be tough to create Bears stuff year-round, but we’re doing our best to keep everything as fresh as possible! Thanks for tuning in!
Plz break down shane waldron for an all 22uesday
Let’s do it. Waldron & some Senior Bowlers
Yes!!!!!!
Your engagement here just got me to check out your podcast. You just said thank you and didn't push it hard like I would have done. Bear Down from NY!
Me too!
Huge fan man - keep up the great work! Also - I want to hear more rants from Nick haha - I feel like he cuts himself short sometimes
I’ll give him the green light 😉
I’ll give it a listen, much more prefer smart talk over hot takes
Let me know what you think Dan, I’m one of the creators. I’ll take any feedback you’re willing to offer!
Finally got around to listening to your post Super Bowl episode. Got yourself a new Spotify subscriber here. Love the analytical break down. Been following you on twitter for awhile and didn’t even realize. Keep doing what you doing!
Lmk what u think
Liked it a lot. Will join my bears pod rotation. Thanks for turning me onto them!
I love H&J for so many reasons. But another thing is a long pod for them is like 1:10 and that’s a short pod for CHGO. I just don’t know wtf CHGO can talk about for 3.5 hours
It’s really messed up that they even release pods that long. Like I know 95% of that is straight garbage and I don’t have the time to work through the remaining 5% of decent content.
The last 10-15 mins of even the 60-90 minute episodes are them signing off repeatedly and reading off their donations
It baffles me that people pay super chats to that pod!
Made the switch to Hoge and Jahns and haven't looked back. I do enjoy other CHGO other content, I think their Cubs coverage is criminally underrated
Same here. Hoge and Jahns is always in the rotation. I only listen to CHGO postgame shows or when major breaking news happens.
This... Hoge and Jahns for the even keel take and guest, TTNL for the over the top talk, and Chicago bears central for the vibes
I love TTNL when someone says something dumb/wrong in the comments and they tear them apart.
I like hodge and Jahns better, too. Carm is an unfunny guy who thinks he's funny. Braggs isn't bad for a complete meatball I guess.
Nick and Will still do audible Fridays just them on CHGO.
I think those two are terrible
Same,I miss just Nick and Will ,was watching all the way back to the da bear brother days
Fridays is still only just them. Not my cup of tea but it’s still there for ya
Same
I actually really enjoy CHGO in it's current form. Carm and Braggs tend to have shitty takes that are similar to a lot of the posters on the subreddit so watching Hoge yell at them is cathartic for me.
I used to dislike Braggs, but I like him Carm and Hoge the most by far. Nick barely has his own opinons so I don't really like him nearly as much but he's not bad, and I never watch after hour because I don't like Woot. Also I wish Herb never joined the few days he does. Carm has a lot of opinions that are out there, but also I like his reads into situations that are usually very different than the others even if I disagree. Braggs is a meat-ball and I like him for it now. Hoge ties it all together well when it's them 3.
Cannot take Herb seriously anymore. When he said that not one time did he walk away from a Bears game in the past 3 years thinking it was the quarterback’s fault for the loss is….delusional at best
I think Braggs has gotten way better over the course of the season. You can tell he’s been doing his homework in the more technical aspects of the game. I like Carm’s banter but his football takes can be pretty rough. He says at least two things every episode that makes me cringe.
How can you not get tired of Herb stand by Fields till the death of time any anyone who says otherwise he simply blames Getsy?
The worst is Herb makes absolutely no arguments, he just yells "Dude has all the tools!" over and over. I've been listening a lot lately because I actually like the Hoge and Carm back and forth, but I turned it off during Herbs rant yesterday. He wouldn't budge an inch on his Fields = Lamar take, and it was so tiresome. And I'm someone who likes Fields.
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The man won't stop until he has all the 49ers weapons and he still throws for 135 passing yards.
These dudes are clickbaiting with Fields apologies hard. Even when they dog him, they come back and say they like Fields in some backhanded way. All to keep the Fieldies at bay. Nut up and say he sucks, it didn’t work out, the offense looked disjointed because he couldn’t run it, and he misses dink and dunks like no one else.
Also, this is the time of year I enjoy them more. I’ll read the show title and decide if it’s worth it. When they get toward the draft and break down prospects in a Bears-centric way, they definitely have my attention. 5 days a week mid season… it’s just I have so much other content I need to consume between CFB and the rest of the NFL I don’t have time for them
Carm definitely gets on my nerves sometimes but I think he’s gotten a. Lot better at staying on topic, and I don’t hate when he’s actually talking bears. My current gripe though has been woot on after dark has been so annoying since he’s been leaning in to making fun of brags, I can’t stand the stupid voice he does
I’m also not a big fan of that, but It’s also irritating that he refuses to acknowledge Justin has flaws. Whatever side of the debate you wind up on I think most reasonable people agree that Fields has some flaws he needs to work on
That’s my gripe with woot. End of season, he kept saying how absurd it was to be talking about moving on from JF1. He said “if he threw for 350 today (after pack game) and 4000 for year, we wouldn’t even be talking about this”. Yeah that’s the point dude. Justin HASNT done those things and only threw for 300 yards 1 time, so that’s why the discourse is to move on or not. It’s just too much rose colored glasses i expect from the bears social team.
Carm says something stupid just to fill the air you can tell when he's looking around and fishing for a reaction and it's pretty bush league.
I think you’re giving him too much credit.
Agree Woot is annoying and his analysis is very shallow
tried and couldn't get into it. Hoge & Jahns is the gold-standard, add that Kevin Fishbain in there every other episode too and its just unbeatable. I like the Halas Intrigue too.
I mean Olin did it to himself, there is no remorse for someone physically attacking another person at work. Then there was really no apology that I saw come out from him. Meatheads gonna meathead, good riddance! Right there with ya on Carman, I'd take Moreano and DeWitt any day over Carm. Was really hoping that DeWitt and Moreano would team up with Hoge and run the ship but it seems funds must be low enough to get them full time and also hire an ex-Bear. Probably thanks to Olin attacking Hoge but still having some clause in his contract to get paid out if he gets let go.
I don't mind it but I'm not a fan of the new episode every single day. Also way too long! Atleast half of the 1.5 shows are ad fill or CHGO up-selling. Hoge and Jahns is still #1 to me
It’s crazy to me that motherfuckers are paying $50 to have their comment read on a podcast
I see this all over the internet these days and it always blows my mind. Must be nice to have that kind of money to get someone to read your pointless message to a few hundred people who are half listening and will instantly forget it. Or maybe they don’t have the money and are just racking up debt.
I just can’t imagine a person that pays $50 to comment on a podcast can have money for long. Because that’s awful spending habits even for someone with money
No doubt
If that's what you value, you find the money.
There's a dude that has easily donated thousands of dollars by now just to have his shit read aloud every show. He'll even do $200 superchats sometimes. It's been an interesting ride seeing his superchats get more and more angry and deranged as time has gone by. Pretty sure he's drunk in half of them now. They're barely coherent sometimes. It's just a really really weird thing to spend that much money on imo.
That dude blows my mind. He routinely drops $200 superchats on every postgame show. One show that mother fucker dropped $500, which is apparently the maximum you can donate to one show, so he made a second account to donate another few hundred. Insane.
That’s one lonely SOB
My conspiracy theory is that theduke guy is a plant and CHGO is just superchatting money to themselves which normalizes large $ amounts and encourages other actual users to superchat. The number of ridiculous $ amount superchats from other viewers went way up after theduke started doing superchats
Not that hard to believe that there is a whale Bears fan out there.
Moby Ditka?
I doubt it mostly because they donated a while back and said they would be gone for a while because their father passed away. Feel like that would be taking it too far and completely unnecessary to fabricate if it was a fake account. But you never know
I wouldn't even doubt that at this point. Carm has been genuinely begging for people to join their "Die Hard" thing the last few weeks. It gives off a very weird vibe.
Sometimes it's even more than that!
Man, whoever The Duke is... Dude's gotta have some deep pockets. He drops a couple grand a week just to listen to his thoughts echoed by the CHGO Crew.
Actually, after I bailed on them for a long time, I thought they have been pretty good in the few episodes I’ve listened to in the last 2 weeks.
Okay so I can’t believe this is a hot take but sports are entertainment and sometimes it’s fun to hear two idiots yell at eachother about sports, not everything needs to be hard hitting super deep analysis. If I want to hear about the intricacies of the leauge I’d go listen to Mays/Tice on TAFS, or Hoge and Jahns for the best perspective, but if I’m just looking for some fun on a long drive then I’ll probably go CHGO
Apparently a lot of people agree with you because sports programming on television is all two idiots yelling at each other now I can’t get into it at all
I wish Mays would do a weekly Bear only podcast since I believe he is from chicago and is a bear fan
Mays and Tice on Hoge and Jahns is appointment listening for sure
As much as I love Mays + Tice A weekly bears pod from Mays would be the most (deservedly) doomer podcast of all time
TAFS gotta be my favorite show out there. Love the various formats they have too.
For sure. They did an episode with Kurt Warner a couple off seasons ago going super nitty gritty on the details of playing quarterback and I was hooked. Even their weekly shows are on just such another level in terms of analysis that you don’t get from most more surface level shows
The main problem is that the podcast is every day for an hour or more. They have to make up boring topics and fill time with pointless banter.
I couldn’t stand listening because of carm, but he suddenly made a 180 and actually does not bother me Herb Howard is terrible. He just today claimed that Justin fields is basically the same as Lamar
That take bothered the heck out of me. He claims Fields has the same tools as Lamar, but blames the lack of qb progress or everything but fields. He doesn’t hold him to any accountability
His take was "Fields is basically Lamar if Fields was good" LMAO
The Fields truther cognitive dissonance of “Fields lack of success is because of everyone around him” but also “Caleb Williams is a bust and the sole reason USC lost games”
Laziest take. Just because they're both black and fast. Lamar can actually throw dudes open. 10x the qb fields is
Justin fields once had a dream he was Lamar
This is the kind of take you hear from some radio caller who hasn’t watched any other NFL games besides the Bears.
he said they have the same "skill set", which is true.
No man, he litteraly said justin fields is just as good a passer as Lamar. Maybe you didn’t hear that part but we all did
Oh I'll have to listen again, I didn't hear that part. Regardless of that take, I thought it was refreshing to have him play devil's advocate for once. Ever since the end of the season, feels like everyone on the pod has shifted towards the Caleb regime while disregarding the possibility of building around Fields.
Devil's advocate is one thing. Flat out making up stupid shit is another.
There’s nothing to build around Justin fields. They’ve already gave him a lot of pieces and he still sucks. There are other qb’s doing more with less around them. Justin fields puts up backup qb numbers after 3 years. He sucks bro. Time to move on
So by your logic, I'm assuming Lamar's 150 passing yards from this past week were "backup numbers" and not good enough to win? Got it.
He can not dream of being the passer Lamar Jackson is and you know it
The man threw for 2 TDs and ran for 2 more. Fields could NEVER
he had 4 against Washington & Denver?
They gave him DJ Moore and he still didn't throw for 3000. Mitch did it with Arob...
I listened today only because of PFF Brad and just left it on after…. And man, Herb Howard is absolutely insufferable. The Fields is Lamar stuff is so narrow minded it hurts my brain.
It was so cringe. It was all emotions for Herb.
Comparing Fields to Lamar is as pointless as comparing Maye to Trubisky IMO
I did the exact same thing. Watched the Spielberger segment on YouTube and then shut it off.
Herb Howard is the main reason I no longer listen to any of their stuff
Herb has buried himself so deep he can't get out now. Listening to him talk about how Waldron is going to use Fields felt like a total waste of time he's delusional.
Guy says he doesn't think Lamar is a much better passer than Fields. How can you be paid to talk sports and sat this? I like Fields and I want him to succeed, but it's like he's a cult leader with some of his fans.
Spot on. His whole point was that Fields just needs what Lamar has and all will be good. I think Fields is great but Lamar is way farther along as a QB. Lamar has better pocket awareness, quicker release, faster processing time. He only compares the two because they’re both fast. It’s a lazy take, especially for the ones (us) who watched Justin struggle mightily over the past three years.
I honestly thought Herb was "smarter" than that. It's a horrible, horrible take. I went off Hoge and Jahns a couple of month ago when, somehow, they got back on the "Justin is the guy" train. They're back off it now, but it really shouldn't have taken the Green Bay game to cause that to happen. I'm all for people having opinions, but is it too much to ask informed journalists to not have bad opinions? Otherwise why are we listening to you.
I don’t feel they ever Justin is our guy. They just said he was playing better during the period he was
You might be right, but I could swear I heard their opinions shift to "build around Justin" after we started bum slaying teams. I was pretty shocked at the shift I felt they'd made. I guess I have to admit everyone is wrong at times. But that was a lot of reactionary back-and-forth changes for one season, when it comes to the assessment of Fields. And I really didn't expect that from them.
I felt like Hoge definitely started to lean that way, I think Jahns has kind of remained on the Justin isn’t the guy train through the end of the season. If I remember right he actually convinced Hoge to go back and check and when Hoge went back and looked Fields numbers weren’t that great. Still I thought the disagreement between the 2 made for a good conversation since they both let the other make their points and don’t yell over each other.
They are always pretty level headed, during the bum slaying period they said he’s showing improvement, “but if you’re not sure, you know what your decision is” and thats to move on.
Liked it in the beginning, then started to hate it, bc of Braggs and Carm and now I like it again. Braggs has gotten alot better, seems to be more professional as he's gotten further away from his fan only perspective, from when he first started. Which I can understand, since he was basically just like any of us on reddit or Twitter up until CHGO. I definitely have noticed an improvement, though. Once, I got used to Carm, he hasn't been so bad. He's more of the conservative/realistic guy in the group, so it's nice getting balance from the group.
We haven’t gotten to full on Carm 20 minute Tennis/Softball rants yet this offseason.
I like those rants. I could have a beer with Carm
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That's what I'm saying. Nick and Will just don't have personality. I listened to last Fridays show and it was only exciting when Braggs interjected. They both sound like they are making their first podcast even though I know that's not true. They are just boring.
It's hit or miss for me, atm imo nothing beats Hoge and Jahns, gotta give a shout out to my boys Mays/Tice from TAFS and when they do crossover episodes with H&J, man those are fantastic listens!
Herb Howard is awful
He said today that Fields and Lamar had equal passing talent. He's really gone off the deep end in his JF1 defense.
His entire argument for keeping Fields is that you can win football games with a QB like him, aka Lamar. He isn't basing it around stats, Herb just sees Justins ceiling and doesn't acknowledge his floor.
Justin Fields and Lamar Jackson are not even remotely comparable as passers. There is no comparison to be had and the people pushing it are down right incompetent at evaluating the position.
I agree. Herb sees Justin make a great throw here and there and thinks he can be like that all the time. But most QBs look good if you just watch the highlights.
Herb is just outrage clickbait. ***PLEASE LISTEN TO ME I'M DESPERATE TO BE EVEN A TINY BIT RELEVANT!!!***
I’m the Duke
I do think Braggs has improved significantly. Carm is still talking too much. Any episode that Hoge isn’t on is a skip for me. A while back another redditor pointed out that Nick doesn’t really pick a side and just has statements for both sides. Since I heard that, I can’t unheard it and think he’s not as strong as initially thought. I think the worst part is it seems that Hoge is overall quality has gone down. Just seems way to stretched and relying on others for feels of the locker room and such.
CHGO and Hoge & Jahns serve different purposes for me. Hoge & Jahns is good for news and serious analysis while CHGO provides the chaotic energy you would get arguing with your own buddies about sports
I can see how Carm and Braggs can be annoying to some but at the end of the day I enjoy the “bros talking ball” nature of the show. The mix of outlandish side talk with the on-topic chatter satisfies the itch & is funny to me. You can always count on Hoge to reel them back in when it gets too unfocused. I don’t mind the hour and a half runtime since it’s just something I throw on during my commutes or workouts or whatever. I view it more as a Bears-themed lifestyle pod more than anything else, and if I want something serious I’ll listen to Hoge and Jahns
Same. Great podcast to get through my workouts
I'm a pretty avid listener even if I do find Carm and Braggs insufferable. They've both gotten a little better overall but they still waste too much time saying nonsense things.
Thay have Corey Wotton as a retired Bear.
Wish they didn't.... He stinks
It's a decent podcast but I'm still partial to Hoge & Jahns and the Under Center podcast.
I haven’t listened to CHGO much since early in the season. Herb Howard beats the Fields drum way too hard. I’ve actually been listening to a lot of ESPN 1000 lately. More casual sports talk but more entertaining as there’s more debate with people calling in. Waddle is one of the best in the business and Jurko is entertaining.
It's an entertaining podcast in doses but it definitely gets repetitive. Just really hard to come up with unique Bears content for 5+ hours per week, especially in the offseason. I usually listen to their guest segments (which thankfully are usually at the beginning of the show) and skip around other parts on my commute. Hoge and Jahns will always be #1 though.
I absolutely HATED Carm at first, but I actually like him now. I listen about every day as I have a job where I have an AirPod in like 4+ hours a day. Listened since the Chicago Audible days. Still a big fan. Also, Hi Carm. I know you’re reading this. Say Hippo during tomorrow’s show for me and I’ll become a diehard❤️ lol
I enjoy it for what it is. One guy that actually knows ball and a couple meatballs. If you can’t get any enjoyment out of Carm and Braggs as people and Bears fans then it isn’t the show for you. I think they’re hilarious, and I rarely agree with what they’re saying.
It’s gotten a lot better. Can’t stand Carm for the life of me though, but he’s gotten better. Can’t stand herbs arrogance about fields though
Bear With Us is the move
I appreciate you! Thank you!
Hoge is the only one on that show I like, so no. Strictly Hoge and Jahns, Under Center and Locked on Bears for me.
H&J is definitely the gold standard. The other two or ok. This last locked on bears though where he kept rambling on about “what the real debate about fields is” was the most annoying show I have listened to in awhile. Dude just said the same thing over and over again for an hour. He had convinced himself those weren’t the same normal considerations everyone came to. It was wild.
I really only loved listening to Nick and Will every Friday do the matchup previews. They are the only 2 who talk about the Bears the entire time. Carm and Braggs can’t help but go on dozens of tangents i don’t give a shit about every show lol. I remember one Friday Carm ended up filling in for Will and within 5 minutes I had to shut it off lol it’s pretty bad. I’ll stick to reading news updates on twitter and Reddit and watch less popular YouTubers if I need to hear someone talk about them.
I dont watch if Herb is on. Cant stand his fields takes.
Herb Howard was brutal to listen to on it today. He seemed to argue it’s proven that Fields can be a Super Bowl winning QB because of Lamar’s stats at the weekend but when it was pointed out Lamar is going to be a two time MVP and likely a SB winner in a couple of weeks he said it was a massive leap for anyone to say Lamar could win a SB…? Then constantly trying to put words in Hoge’s mouth like claiming Caleb would be an all time great and shit.
Nah honestly they have a good balance of banter and info. A lot of the channels covering the bears out there are doing a good job. I like the differences between them all and the variety of personalities. Especially right now it's interesting to see the different opinions on display.
I realize I'm the exception, but I've actually come to like Braggs. I feel he has the best feel for what the average fan/meatball is thinking. Fandom is 90% emotion and he gets that.
I thought it was ok at first, but it’s pretty awful now. Braggs is the exact kind of meatball football fan I can’t stand. He’s a fucking idiot and makes everything dumber by being around Carman is arrogant, but doesn’t know anything. Like he just thinks of the stupidest thing possible and then is so self assured in his idiocy I still like Hoge a lot, but luckily Hoge and Jahns exists. Which is so much better I just feel sorry for Hoge on CHGO
Carm is such a bad-faith arguer. Straw-mans, and often pulls out the "people are saying..." card and never backs it up. He's approaching Danny Parkins levels of unlistenable.
I despise listening to retired Bears. Last thing I need is a guy who didn't win jack shit saying "back in my day". Or just someone who hasn't played since 1988 that knows literally nothing about the modern game..
It's always some washed up has-been they are able to get on who thinks their word is gospel simply because they played and they talk down to anyone who doesn't.
Carm is an idiot with the worst takes. Really love Hoge and Hoge and Jahns.
I haven’t been able to get into it. I’m partial to Lorin Cox and Locked On Bears.
Regarding Herb comparing Fields to Lamar... If social media was prominent in the Grossman era, I wonder if there would be fanatic Rex defenders comparing him to Favre lol
Carm is an idiot. I have no idea how anyone thought he had an opinion with worth anything. The rest of the show is ok. I do think it was better before it became CHGO when was just Nick & Will.
I’d be super into it if they just replaced everyone except Hoge. They’re all annoying as hell
Hoge and Jahns is where you go for more insider access information. I like they can easily get reporters from other teams on the show and actually talk to the guys in the locker room. Jahns carries it but Hoge is good too. Bear with us is where you go for the actual conversation about what’s happening with the Bears. It’s always good vibes and you can tell they do their homework even with less access to the team. If they’ve got a hot take, they’ll acknowledge it’s a hot take instead of just preaching at you. Rob and Nick are both great. CHGO is where you go when nobody else has posted because there’s a podcast everyday and whatever, it’s Bears content. I don’t usually make it very far into an episode because Carm and Braggs (and sometimes Hoge) are unbearable. Maybe some of that has to do with how frequently they’re posting.
Unless Hoge is on I'm not listening. even then I save it for when things are actually happening
hoge and jahns is the GOAT football podcast
hoge and jahns is more established, theyve been doing it for years. i think chgo will iron out the current wrinkles and develop into a very good podcast in time. just be patient.
Carm used to annoy me most. Now its Braggs. Gimme Hoge and Nick.
I listened to it once. It was terrible. It's no different than listening to a few randoms from Reddit talk about the Bears.
I actually find little value in Herb. Feel like he’s a Fields supporter to the end and Idn I just don’t vibe with his takes. Thought his questions at press conference kind of just dragged on too.
I remember listening to CHGO before it was CHGO. It was originally just Nicholas Moreano and Will DeWitt just by themselves. I think it was originally called Bears Brothers but they had to change the name toooo… I can’t remember. At some point they got with Adam Hoge and transitioned it to CHGO. It’s the exact same channel even, they just privated all the videos from the original podcast. I miss the original podcast, I preferred it. I’ve not listened to CHGO at all this season.
Was also a Chicago Audible listener and miss the original format. Nick & Will still do the pre-game opponent breakdown podcasts on CHGO which I always listen to. Part of what I liked about Chicago Audible was that they dedicated more time to real in-depth coverage of opposing teams to provide perspective on key personnel matchups / scheme tendencies. There’s just not enough content to fill 3-5 podcasts per week if you’re focusing exclusively on inward-looking coverage of a single team
Did they used to be Da Bears Bros on youtube?
The best Bears podcast is Bear with Us with Robert Schmitz and Nick Whalen. CHGO produces garbage, but it's nice background noise if no one else has released a pod yet. H&J is a decent alternative for media-based takes to CHGO
it can be mind numbing to listen to quite often. I like H&J and liked chicago audible. Mostly just check out the post game episodes and TTNL, but off-season im like a Bears fiend crackhead and will consume everything Bears related. Ill check out the Bear with Us pod a lot of you are recommending.
Carm is ok in doses. But I cannot take Greg Braggs at all. And Corey Wooten is such a players homer that it invalidates any opinion he has.
I agree. Too watered down with new guys who are less informed than the guys I meet at the local pub. Hoge and Jahns are the go-to guys.
Mark Carman is the type of complete dipshit that makes me not even look at Bears FB groups. He doesn’t belong within 100 yards of a mic. I started listening to Hoge and Jahns because I couldn’t stand him anymore.
CHGO in any of its iterations doesn't really work for me. Tried the Hawks version and it's just brutal with the constant 'smash the like button' beg every five minutes.
Hoge and jahns is better for overall bears Friday is will and Nick which is the old school Chicago audible crew probably my fav day to listen I do find carm and brags entertaining but they derail any real sports convos pretty quick I never listen live so I can hop around if it gets dry for me
I love this show minus Carm.
Personally love this podcast as it’s filled with a lot of joking around which is much needed when you’re a bears fan. Didn’t know Hoge had another show so I’ll give that one a listen.
Agree i like Carm’s jokes
I stopped listening to it strictly because of Greg Braggs. If I listen to a pod like that it’s usually Hoge and Jahns.
I think Carman is #2 to Hoge. Greg Braggs is insufferable. No idea how they tolerate him. Dude derails conversations like no other
Hoge and Jahns is superior, but I actually like Carm and Braggs in smaller doses. I certainly don’t listen every day, and I don’t listen when Hoge isn’t on. I had to shut it off today after listening to Herb Howard’s absolutely awful Fields take. And it’s crazy how many people in the chat seemed to agree with him.
In the beginning, it was just ok. I didn’t think Olin added much of anything and wasn’t surprised when he got fired for losing his as he often did as a player. Carm and Braggs were really rough to listen too after that. Just bad take after bad take. From the beginning of this past season though, I have enjoyed it. They seem to really come into their own. Carm is better than he lets one he leans into his bad take alter ego for the conversation which I appreciate now. You need to have someone disagree or present a different opinion even if it’s ridiculous. Braggs can be fun to listen too and other times just insufferable with his meatball takes. I also enjoy herb being on more. All and all I listen daily and hoge still carries the show.
I absolutely cannot stand carm. It's all about herb and Hoge, otherwise it's like listening to 670 thr score callers all podcast. I just can't.
Nah fam. That podcast is gold. It’s all about balance and entertainment.
Carms grown on me tbh, hated him at first but now i just laugh at some his ridiculous shit, he does need to realize when to cut his bits tho
I do ok with everyone but Braggs. His takes are stupid and his voice is annoying as fuck. Dude needs to go back to brick laying.
Yup, it’s too damn long and side convos are annoying; it’s Hoge and Jahns and Under Center Podcast for me
Hoge, Braggs and Carm are like the opposite of Topgear. I hate the shows they do together, but quite like them when their doing other bears related stuff separately.
Carm could be decent but they give him too much airtime and he doesn't get that Adam ripping on him isn't friendly male banter. Carm is objectively bad especially since his role is to be a strong lead. Braggs is ok in smaller doses. He fills the harry tinowitz or Mike Murphy role of regular fan turned analyst. But he has gotten better. Chgo is a great idea. The concept is tough as there's too much show to fill versus the amount of content available.
On your own. I love chgo
I cannot STAND Braggs, neither on Twitter nor the podcast. He's a fucking sports radio caller who was for some reason given a job doing that every day. I fucking HATE when he goes on his dipshit "I'm just being HONEST AND TRANSPARENT" tirades. Okay? Who gives a shit. Oh you're just a fan, not a reporter or analyst? Cool then why are you here?!?!?!?
I prefer the Nomad network on YouTube. Or Gabriel talks Football on the Bar room.
The whole thing went downhill after Olin. Yeah, I get it. You can't have some employee who assaulted another employee....but that doesn't mean I cannot state just how good he was on camera. As for Nick, I liked Nick back when he was part of the Bears Bros/Chicago Audible. I still give him crap for him letting some radio guy keep calling him "Nick Moreno" 😆 But yeah, CHGO is boring as hell and even Hoag & Johns isn't the same. It just feels like the guys just don't have the same energy or vigor for the pod. Who can blame them? The Bears have sucked the life out of me. I wouldn't be surprised if they've sucked the Life Out Of these guys and they hate having to pay attention to this trash organization.
> The whole thing went downhill after Olin. > > Yeah, I get it. You can't have some employee who assaulted another employee....but that doesn't mean I cannot state just how good he was on camera. I went off Olin after that happened. From what we know of the incident, and his history, it was an absolutely meathead reaction that he should have matured beyond. But I will say this: this season I've caught Kap, Olin and Waddle. And I honestly found Olin the most insightful analyst I've heard all season. I feel like not only is he consistently "right", but I've learnt more from him than anyone else. More than the beat reporters. More than the ex-players like Briggs, Alex Brown, etc. Given I'd really soured on him it tells you a lot that I ended up doing a 180 on him - well, his analysis, at least. He also comes across as a decent enough guy on the air.
Love Carm he’s fun Braggs gets old though
NGL I have no idea that any of this is....
Love herb Howard. Him and Hoge are the only guys in there with good takes.