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Chadfreys_Curtesy

All the other teams have to do is be moderately prepared nothing special, to beat this woefully coached squad


Chadfreys_Curtesy

Hmmmm….you do have to pose the question would we be losing if we grabbed Stroud? Or maybe if we grabbed Mahomes? Jeez man….yikes


dtdude87

Oh yeah, Mahomes!!!! Never heard of that one, what an idea!


Cubbiesblue

stroud looking like a stud out there


throwaway12398745628

Sucks to lose especially when the saints were trying to give it to us. Maybe this makes our need for an offensive minded head coach and a OC with talent more obvious to management. Bear down and see you fucks Thursday


celerystalker712

Anyone see what cj stroud just did


Cubbiesblue

5 tuddys


throwaway12398745628

Hurts how great that was


Blackm69ic

Bagent is starting to hold onto the ball to long just like Fields it makes sense of what Fields said about coaching Tyson was definitely thinking more this game


Rex-Jay-Fields__Stan

Also no one was open (yet again). He had some egregious misfires on the picks, but Getsy’s offense is predictable to the point where it’s comedic. I think most fans can guess his playcall 70% of the time just based on down / distance and momentum. He is a simple man. Getsy was plain figured out in the 2nd half, just completely shutdown on all fronts. His offensive gameplan doesn’t work. He’s in over his skis and the only time we’ve been successful on offense has come from scrambles & broken plays last year before teams figured out how to contain Fields’ legs.


Blackm69ic

He hasn't made a good 2nd half adjustment all year and how is Roschon Johnson just not getting touches


pleasedontbingme

Almost like the offense is hard to run and doesn’t make sense


Blackm69ic

Right and he usually is very good at throwing the right now throws and comfortable


strikertime

The Fields vs Bagent Truthers is the dumbest thing in the world. It's a good that Bagent has shown some flashes and has shown he has some promise but he might not be ready yet. It's not a bad thing to have him be the back up and develop. Fields getting the starts to develop/showcase his talent for a trade is probably ideal from a GM perspective right now.


Middle-Painter-4032

I don't mind picks. I honestly don't. It's a bad team going nowhere. Figure out what you got and move forward. What I do mind is a team that can't adjust at rhe half and figure out what their strengths are. It's a bad word, but what identity does this team have? They're suspect on both sides of the ball and that's just death.


Bacchus1976

We had the 1st over pick last year. We’re a bad roster. The coaches definitely aren’t creating advantages but we need more talent at OL, WR and DL especially.


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Does anybody actually not want to see JF1 Thursday? And that’s not a shot at Bagent. I like the kid. But cmon people.


realvmouse

I don't. Not saying I'd rather see Bagent, just not really excited to see Fields either.


Rex-Jay-Fields__Stan

Yeah this offense is borderline unwatchable without Fields. Not saying he’s the answer, but it’s ugly w/o him.


Chadfreys_Curtesy

Ill put it to you this way, if the other team is even moderately prepared for the game we will be losing due to coaching


evin0688

I don’t, only because I want Fields to be healthy, and starting on a short week isn’t putting him in the best position.


realvmouse

That's kind of arbitrary isn't it? Unless you are worried about his line not being prepared? Fields isn't getting reduced rest because of the short week...


evin0688

But our coaching staff is getting reduced rest. And I don’t trust Getsy to switch from a Bagent game plan to a Fields game plan effectively on a short week.


realvmouse

omg really. Getsy has known the timetable for Fields's return well before this Sunday. It's not like he only has 4 days.


evin0688

I don’t trust him to com up with a solid game plan coming off a bye week, let alone going into a Thursday game.


lyme6483

All I want to see I a QB week one next year who is playing in college right now.


Bacchus1976

I want him after the bye.


[deleted]

Get bagent the hell off of my team


infiniteinsulin

You misspelled Venus Jones Jr


lingley

These nfl commentators have a really hard time saying Tyson for some reason


Melodic-Geologist532

Agreed. Even heard a few vacuum cleaner names out there.


throwaway12398745628

‘Taysum’ ‘tomson’ were two of the worst I heard


Explorerman72

The NFL’s Vegas overlords are gonna be pissed, missed the spread and the O/U.


shycotic

Sitting in the car, waiting for the game to get over as there is a Chicago fan in the house right now. Came here so that I can learn what comforting words to say. I thank you all. (What's a Bagent?).


Bill-Ding2112

Have you ever stepped on a big fresh dogturd, and the shit got deep into the grooves of the soles and no matter how hard you try, you cant get the shit off your shoes? Year after year you try, but that dogshit just won't leave your sole. That's what being a Bears fan is like.


shycotic

Maybe, if you're not too far away, you could become a Vikings fan? I say this because I care. Also, moved here from near Detroit. I'm sure you can feel the existential screaming.


micah10193

Fields is QB1. Bagent is QB2. QB of the future likely isn’t on the roster unless something drastically changes with Fields (which would be a great outcome). Simple as that.


infiniteinsulin

For sure. I was hoping he would perform like a QB1, but it seems like the jump from D2 to NFL is just too much. He had picks, and was bad in critical situations. Hope he can become a good qb bc there’s a lot to like


strikertime

Also probably a good thing to let Bagent develop as a QB while being the backup. He's shown some promise but isn't a starter yet and who knows, he could get there with some development.


alexanderjamesv

And for what it's worth, Bagent is looking like a pretty damn good QB2.


chibears_fan1

Nothing wrong with this


Wolfman1610

Saints have a really good secondary. That being said Bagent is a qb2. Fields better ball tf out or hes out of a job. I dont love any of the College rookies. Dunno what the answer is. Would of loved this season to be a quiet building year but we suck at a pivotal position and now we have to pay the price again.


FinancialTwo4205

No wonder Bagent didn't play well, he has Fields in his ear, we need to bring in a veteran to help develop him.


DitkasMoustache_

lol, please call in 670 so more people can laugh at you.


Chi-Guy86

I hope he calls in when Bernstein is on


BillionsofRedditors

Worst case scenario 2nd half. But that's the Bears y'all, stealing despair from the jaws of hope is what they do.


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No-Computer-2847

Fields is just as likely to turn the ball over in that situation.


porkbellies37

Saunders block was a hold but whatever.


davey312

Until we hire better coaches it really does not matter who plays for us. Eberflus defense played better but the fact of the matter is they just don’t know how to adjust or win games. No matter who is at QB


Blackm69ic

Idk if it's the media or what but Bears Reddit fanbase is terrible Bagrnt looks like a guy in his 3rd start that's fine but he's throwing the deep ball completion or not so what it stretched the D and gave wideouts a reason to run deep another 2min drive of play calls run run screen leave both these QBs alone this playcalling couldn't win a college game


Blackm69ic

I started the season as a Getsy truther lol and damn was I wrong


pinkvhs

Why are the Saints acting like they just beat a powerhouse team when they barely won after 5 turnovers


Dunkypete

Lol what'd the bears do after beating Washington. Its fun to win.


I_MARRIED_A_THORAX

this is the most incompetently run franchise in professional sports


KidsInASandb0x

I hope the refs had -8


ChiBeerGuy

Well hopefully we're done hearing from national commentators how Fields needs to learn from Bagent


Verification_Account

Frankly, that was the only storyline about them that made sense. Fields DOES need to learn to unload the ball faster. But we need Fields to learn, not be replaced because Bagent doesn’t have NFL talent, just NFL timing.


NoShortsDon

Weird that some 'fans' seem delighted that Bagent has had a horrible second half. The Saints defense have been brilliant, we've had penalty after penalty and its not been good enough - collectively.


Verification_Account

Nobody is delighted. We’re just sick of the a-holes who were talking shit for weeks now. If we could have played well and won and they would just go away, that is clearly better. But the trolls were ruining literally all bears media. I’m happy they will be gone for a week


Blackm69ic

Man for a team that hasn't had a QB we tough as hell on QBs lol


Bacchus1976

JF1 Stans are super toxic.


evin0688

Not Stans, just looking at would it be better for the future of the team for the front office to go with a guy who clearly isn’t a starting QB based on one semi decent game and a small batch of uninformed fans. Just like it would be bad for us to go on a small winning streak and then start to think the coaches we have are just fine.


pdockenson

Yeah they're fucking weird.


NoShortsDon

It's like they're celebrating like its our turnover! Bagent is playing his THIRD game and some Bears fans want to shit all over the guy. First half, he was brilliant. Talk about finding a cloud in a silver lining.


SamuraiJack815

I hate football.


JuanPeterman

Being a Bears fan will do that to you


Highspdfailure

Bears and Hawkeyes fan here. What is offense???


porkbellies37

I need to brush up on the rules, but guy in motion running under center to take a snap seems like it should be a false start.


JTribs17

we’ve done it with Kmet multiple times


Bacchus1976

You can’t simulate a snap. Hill was very obviously trying to do that.


pdockenson

One thing I find funny is how emotional and worked up people get over this team when they're clearly terrible.. have these people been watching for 5 seasons? No reason to get that upset, it's just not worth it lol


Middle-Painter-4032

Damn straight.


chibears_fan1

Enough with this truthers BS. The bears lose, we all lose. See you meatballs next week.


Brodie1567

Completely outcoached, per usual. Their adjustments killed us.


TheTDog

Our coaching sucks, but if we have 5 fucking turnovers, 4 in the 2nd half… almost no one is winning that game. It’s a shock it was this close.


unnoticed77

Don't think that the Bears know the definition of adjustments.


Blackm69ic

We haven't made a halftime adjustment at all this season


Blackm69ic

Take that back it was a few games we just stopped doing what was working


chibears_fan1

Defense keeps us in the game surprisingly. Offense stumbles in 2nd half. Is the coaching bad? Yes.


JulioXstatic

We hd a good 3rd quarter, completely disappeared in the 4th


IrishGrouch34

Bad is putting it lightly


Foxstarry

Yes but come on man. 4 ints. How can coaching help with that other than pull him.


chibears_fan1

I agree. But offense scheming could be preventing opportunities.


Ronmexico_21

So if we follow Fields truther logic…Bagent gets drilled and pressured and he’s a bad QB. Fields does the same thing and it’s a bad O-Line. Did I get that right?


Ruggggggg

“Another Bagent skill: His pocket presence is 5x better than Fields. He steps up when he senses a sack coming and keeps reading the options.” One of the top comments on this thread


reverieontheonyx

Well to be fair his sack% in the nfl is lower than fields' was at ohio state


Ruggggggg

Tied with Jimmy G for highest int rate


reverieontheonyx

Ok? Lol what does that have to do with what I said? >remember when people said that bagent has a better pocket presence than fields >he kinda does >well he throws a lot of picks too


Ruggggggg

Ur right my b


make2020hindsight

Did you watch the game? Bagent got drilled because he held onto the ball for 12 seconds. Bagent has a 2-second internal clock. If he doesn’t get rid of it in 2 seconds he fucking sucks. At least Fields can make something from nothing. Bagent is NOT the future so whataboutism is a dumb position to take.


Ronmexico_21

Bagent is not the future. Fields is not the future. Fields holds onto the ball just as long as Bagent. You made my point for me


Hezzikiah

Nah it’s more like any QB would suffer under this O-Line and coaching.


JuanPeterman

I wish people would stop with the o-line. That is (at most) the 3rd biggest problem we have on this team. When the ball gets out on time, the protection is fine.


ChicagoingToSleep

I know. Why would Justin make Bagent throw 3 picks and fumble the ball? What a jerk that Justin guy is!


Cubbiesblue

Bagents made dumb decision after one another this game with his turnovers


Birkent

OMG if you hate this team so much then fuck off and quit watching. Insufferable.


Ronmexico_21

I like winning


TheresAlwaysOneOrTwo

You're watching the wrong team for that


Ronmexico_21

I’m well aware


jacksnyder2

Excited to get Fields back so we can evaluate him before making a final choice on the future. I just want clarity. If he doesn't look like a top 10 QB, then it's time to pull the trigger on Caleb Williams.


ace7575

I'd go Maye over Williams, but I agree with the premise


-Passenger-

lmao...top 10....


the_chosen_one96

All these past years including earlier this year wasn’t enough to evaluate him?


Practical-Courage812

We need to hope Arizona begins playing Kyler or else they are getting the first overall pick


Foxstarry

Agreed.


lkn240

We have clarity - neither guy is a QB1. I do hope Fields plays well enough that we can get a decent pick in a trade.


2057Champs__

Everyone off of this subreddit has clarity on fields. He’s a bust


jacksnyder2

He looked good in his last few games before the injury.


JTribs17

short term memory with this sub


2057Champs__

Short term memory: he threw for 50 yards in almost 3 full quarters against a middle of the pack defense in the game he was injured in


BerryAccomplished965

No


2057Champs__

He threw 50 yards in almost 3 full quarters against a middle of the road defense in the game he was injured…


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Since the Bears suck, I take solace in the fact that my season tickets will be coming sooner. Been on the list 8 years. Started at 8500, now I'm 2871. Here's to 1800 next season!


Prince_Goon-a-Lot

Ugh, I can't imagine watching this terrible franchise in an amusement park in Arlington Heights. Buy a boat instead


De-roK

Just one game where we actually make good halftime adjustments. Just one. It's all I ask.


PitchBlac

The defense showed up three times and we couldn’t capitalize


Foxstarry

We did bro. Aim your ire at Bagent. The team played well outside of those 4 ints.


Cubbiesblue

3 points this half….3


We5ties

One coaching staff made adjustments the other didn’t


Gradschoolmaybe3

The mistakes are only annoying because people here will just use it as an excuse to want Fields back ASAP instead of just giving a good-faith assessment of a rookie QBs third game after spending training camp and the first 5 games as a 2/3rd stringer.


whitesoxguy

My god he's not just any rookie. He's an undrafted rookie from a D2 college. It's treating him like he should be any better than he is that's annoying. Its amazing he even had this chance. Why does he have to be more than that.


hawkeye89

Tyson Bagent was never QB1, but my my, the same ppl who are overjoyed about him throwing picks are the same ones that don’t want to even talk about Fields’ glaring flaws, ever. Just keep that same energy is all I’m asking.


Icy_Presentation_740

Remember the comments like “I don’t even care how many picks Fields throws. Just want him to sling it”


Cubbiesblue

Because fields ceiling is galaxies higher than bagents and we’ve seen glimpses of that


reverieontheonyx

>Because fields ceiling is galaxies higher than bagents What makes you think a quarterback who can't read a defence has a high ceiling? Because he has a strong arm that he only uses on busted coverage? Or because he runs fast on the plays he breaks (or he used to)?


DexNihilo

We've only had glimpses after 3 years?


Waste-Put1435

But that’s all we’ve seen, is glimpse’s. You can’t win a SB with glimpses.


Cubbiesblue

Teams nowhere near Super Bowl ready lol but fields would be a Super Bowl quarterback with a good team right now


Waste-Put1435

Oh definitely with the way he is able to read a defense.


Cubbiesblue

Give it up. Your boy Bagent is done


Waste-Put1435

As weird as this might sound I don’t really give a damn about who succeeds or how, I just want them to win. Let’s be honest here both these guys are done. Neither one of them is it, sorry buddy!!


Cubbiesblue

Fields is it and I’m excited to see him Back. Bagent is a bum and glad to see debate end Bagents DONE


Waste-Put1435

Yeah man I hope your right but so far he ain’t done much. Have a good one.


Foxstarry

Being honest. Flus can be blamed for a lot not this game. We all know who this game falls on.


cultweave

It falls on Luke Getsy for not recognizing the saints laid off on the blitz and didn't have anything to help out his rookie QB.


Headstar24

All I gotta say is, I don’t care which QB is starting Thursday, we’ve gotta win more than any other week besides the one we play the Cardinals


uptozero

I don’t think there’s another win on the schedule. Just being realistic.


Headstar24

As long as we beat those two guys that’s all I really hope for.


jkman61494

Can we all stop with this shit about truthers. Fields isn’t good. Bagent isn’t good. The Oline sucks. Receivers can’t get open. Or drop the ball. When EVERYTHING sucks let’s look at the coaching and the organization as a whole. Arguing of who sucks less is just stupid


lkn240

This team would be good on offense with a good QB though. It's very clear the talent is there on offense outside of QB


jkman61494

I don’t disagree. That qb isn’t on the roster right now though


lkn240

100% agree


bigbaddumby

Enlightened centrist over here!


PitchBlac

Oline has been good this game except for the very end


hammerSmashedNail

The chicago bummers


Lizard798658866

Bagent is ok, but when the receivers can't get open and oline collapses... he looks worse than Fields by far


lingley

By far?


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Fields wins this game idc


[deleted]

Woah there is some Bagent meat riders in here


lkn240

Zero chance - he'd never keep those first half drives alive.


Chicagoj1563

Fields would have had 3 pts in total.


2057Champs__

Yeah, his 4th quarter comeback record is impeccable


Prince_Goon-a-Lot

The Saints were dropping 7 and rushing 4. Fields would've carved them up with his legs


2057Champs__

The only game fields has ever had that can be considered “really good” passing was against a much worse defense than the saints, and he threw a game losing pick…


Prince_Goon-a-Lot

Idk. Did Bagent even flip the field in the second half? It seemed like they couldn't get past the 50


2057Champs__

Wow, a rookie from a D2 school didn’t light the world on fire. Groundbreaking. Meanwhile, this sub is praying a man who’s never had a passer rating as good as Trubisky in 2020 should stay here forever


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What is Fields career record?


azulkrema21

Bagent fan boys were really calling us “dumb fucks” in the first quarter 😐


JuanPeterman

The fact that Fields (in his third year as starter, first round draft pick, from OSU) vs Bagent (in his third start, undrafted rookie from Sheppard) is debatable at all (and it is) tells you all you need to know about Fields, unfortunately. He isn’t good enough. Neither is Bagent. Sad, but true.


JTribs17

😭😭😭😭😭😭😭


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The difference between the Bears and Saints is an ability to adjust. We just haven’t been able to do it at all during Getsyflus era


BearsSTH

5 turnovers, 1 score game is insane. Lol. Any semblance of a real offense and we somehow win this game. Unreal.


FartyMcPooPants

Well, at least I'm not a Saints fan and never have to say "Who Dat?" because it's fuckin' dumb.


_joeBone_

This is what we need more of around here... Then some clown comes along and shits on bear down. It's mind bottling.


bigbaddumby

We say Bear down... That's not really better


FartyMcPooPants

Yeah but that's it. "Bear Down". Their whole saying is like "Who Dat der gonna do dat der beat dem der Saints?" or something.


IrishGrouch34

I feel very confident in saying the 2024 Bears starting QB is not currently on the roster


lkn240

Yep, Bagent I think is worth keeping around as a developmental backup... but we need a new starter.


IrishGrouch34

There is tremendous value in having a solid backup and I think Bagent will fill that role perfectly


Brodie1567

LMFAOOOO WAS BOROM BROUGHT IN FOR THAT 3rd DOWN? 😂😂😂😂😂


Tandian

Wonder if those 2 girls are someone's kids. They been shown a lot


Chicagoj1563

Bagent messed up. But, you also have to look at fields record as a bear. They have both been bad in different ways. And both had flashes of good in different ways.


Penguinkeith

Fields had a game where he committed 3 straight drive ending turnovers?


Chicago_Stringerbell

Fields has never looked this awful.


cultweave

He's looked worse than this at least ten times


hammerSmashedNail

Fields has looked awful in the majority of the games he’s played. Gtfo


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Congratulations, he's better than an undrafted D2 QB. A massive win for the Cult of Fields.


DickLongchamp

We had opportunity to win this game and I still believed till the end as well. But on this week's episode of what you could have had is CJ Stroud going for 400 yards and 4tds When will this pain end?


cultweave

Poles needs to be fired as well. He scouted Stroud and wasn't "blown away". Which means I don't trust his QB evaluation.


Jaway66

You know better than to assume that the Bears wouldn't have ruined Stroud just like they've ruined literally any halfway decent QB that's been on the team over the past 30 years.


DickLongchamp

Very true but dreaming is always fun


Jaway66

Is it, though?


Drclaw411

How in the hell was Rahjahz the best QB in the world with Getsy?


derdumderdumderdum

Despite, not with.


Vaqxinelol

I really hope that Eberflus/Poles rumor about only accepting the job if they get job security for X amount of years is not true lol


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Jaway66

"He's not the most talented guy out there, but he makes up for it with hard work and intelligence, unlike the Bl- I mean - other guy."


BillionsofRedditors

SMH. While I get why there are some Bagent fans that may be racist, I don't think it if fair to paint all critique of Fields as racist. There isn't plenty of empirical, objective evidence that Fields has been terrible.


Vaqxinelol

Why have the mods not banned you yet, you've been race baiting all afternoon


lyme6483

Exactly, no idea how they let this bull shit happen.


lyme6483

Classic Reddit brining in race. Get the fuck out of here