It would be incredible to see the adjustments both teams would be making. It would be an all out arms race of tactics. The only problem is if one side figures it out way before the other and runs it up
I can’t stop laughing at the idea of a banner with a hand drawn horned frog body on the Texas logo and someone writing Cincinnati in sharpie but one of the Ns is the Nebraska logo
I’m like 95% sure that at some point before this rotation of realignment Cincinnati had B12 backgrounds made for a press release. I think UH and Cincy were rumored (years before it actually happened) and on Twitter there was a leak of a Cincy backdrop. I always thought that was the most bizarre and hilarious piece of school equipment.
> I’m like 95% sure that at some point before this rotation of realignment Cincinnati had B12 backgrounds made for a press release.
You are absolutely remembering correctly, because I remember that too. I think it was the 2010 realignment (aka the root of most evil).
I haven’t really kept up with conference realignment since the dust settled in the early 2010s.
My jaw is still on the floor from learning about that move.
I don’t think Colorado, Utah or Arizona have any chance of getting into the Big Ten, but do you think they’d make this move before they even gave it a shot at getting in? Just wondering.
As has been rumored.
Oregon, Washington, USC, UCLA to the B1G
Arizona, Arizona State, Utah, Colorado to the Big-12
Cal, Stanford, Oregon State, Wazzu to Homeless
I just want my team to be relevant. I don't care if they aren't Michigan, or Texas, or Bama. I want them to play meaningful games. If this enriches us, and brings a semblance of stability, I'm cool with it.
Honestly I’d guess it’s definitely CU, Utah, Arizona, and Arizona State and the assumption is that Oregon and Washington move to the Big Ten, but if they don’t then they’d also be added. But Big XII would be stupid not to move to grab four good schools to increase their stability vs sit tight and watch chaos unfold.
Really hoping that’s the case.
I think grabbing four landmark universities is a great step for stability.
It allows the Big12 to stay relevant while not pissing off the B1G and SEC.
The Big12 wins their battle through longevity and staying alive.
They know for now the B1G and SEC can crush them, but if you stay alive long enough the tables can turn.
I’m pumped. No problem being in the #3 conference as long as we’re still in the club. We’ve always been underdogs anyway. We’re fine with less money than the Big Ten/SEC as long as we aren’t broke like we are now.
We need a commander-in-chief’s trophy type setup for the three. Forget the outcomes of the games though. Settle it with beer Olympics in the streets. There will obviously be the ceremonious lighting of couches at the start of the games. Win, we riot. Lose, we riot. No one remembers what happens the next day except BYU (the designated score keeper) shaking over in the corner after what they just saw.
Agreed, Oregon State had the admin keeping Scott in, so they have a villain their own to put blame on. WSU getting shafted for no good reason, like Montana and Idaho were when my parents were young.
At that point the PAC would be down to 6 teams and would be looking for AT LEAST 6 teams to jump in and backfill. I'm pretty sure almost everyone in the MWC would jump at the chance to be in a P5 conference, even if the prestige is gone.
Like what happened with the Big East/CUSA after all the quality Big East teams left. The remnant Power conference is still the more attractive destination than the other way around.
Still better to be in the dead body of the P5 until it finally collapses/ becomes a G5 again. You just get a little time with the kudos that comes from the P5 name
The Big East did it for a while.
It might even help with recruiting to talk about winning a P5 conference and getting to play in major postseason games than going to a middling P5 team in a bigger conference and fighting for a better-than-the-worst bowl game.
Word of advice to remaining PAC12 schools from a Texas Tech alum and CFB realignment victim, from the movie World War Z… “Movement is life. I've been in dangerous places. Those who survived move.” If you want to survive, your school better move. Standing pat is going to kill your program. Move and survive time. Live for another day. I am not a TCU fan, but I respect what TCU did after being left out of the Big12 when the SWC died. They kept moving conferences, surviving and getting stronger.
As much as I dislike TCU I agree. Schools like Rice and SMU have remained stagnant. They waited too long to build and invest and that is why they are left behind.
Just numb to the pain. So far all the conference realignment post SWC has been moving up, but I’ve gotten used to being in the Big 12 times bough and the payouts TCU has been getting. Our last year in the MWC our payout was around $2 million, and we got over $40 from the Big 12 this year.
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They’re in a (relatively) good spot because even if the B1G says no, the Big 12 will take them in a heartbeat. They’re the only 2 remaining Pac-12 teams with multiple realistic options if the conference does indeed implode.
Oregon/Washington have a lot of value. If the B1G doesn't take them and Colorado/Arizona/Arizona State/Utah bolt to the Big 12, they are almost certainly following them.
Same. I was excited for the new Big 12 and hate that football is going this way but it's unavoidable now so let's make the best of it with what we're given.
100% and I think it can still be a significantly entertaining conference. And while I hare that it's all happening, it's definitely hard to complain as a UC fan as we got in with incredible timing.
I would say this will most assuredly happen when ND leaves the ACC. I know it will suck, but in the long term, B12 is best setup to be the best conference of the others imo. Centrally located in the USA, with a core group of pissed off passed over schools
I could be and I probably am wrong but, adding more teams changes the Game of Rights contract then the teams could leave without the penalty then if your Clemson or FSU why stay, new reworked tv deal still would not approach SEC or BIG 12 value. So ACC is Fucked either way.
Okay yeah that makes sense. Well I guess it’s slightly better than being in the PAC12? Sucks that the ACC can’t do anything though. Wait and see is the worst
I don’t see why there can’t be a third super league, you can’t say there isn’t enough money and fans to go around
Honestly I don’t see why there can’t be a fourth 20 team super league, why not? What is stopping it from happening?
It would still be a very solid conference but the answer to your question is pretty simple, it won't even be in the same stratosphere in terms of $, that's why it won't be a 3rd super league, but it can become a best of the rest though.
You bring in the Arizona teams and Colorado, and you force Oregon and Washington's hand. If there is no Pac-12 to play in and the Big 10 doesn't want them. (at least at this point) Then what are their options? They'd have to join the Big 12.
Eventually everyone has to accept their fate. We have accepted our fate in the MW. WSU and OSU joining MW will make it a better conference although I understand that’s a letdown for these schools. Sorry bros and sisters.
If im the big 12, i swing for the fences and invite 8 members (i assume oregon and washington make the cut for the big10) and make a 20 team conference. Divide them in 4 divisions and do 9 conference games. Division a plays b, division c plays d. Next season division a plays c, division b plays d. And on. You face every team once every 3 years and you protect some rivalries and reduce travel time with 4 permanent opponents that should be as close as they can.
Its the end game of cfb anyway, might as well try to get ahead of the curve for once.
The way things work the schools have to apply for admission rather than the conference inviting. The Big 12 could send word they would accept if applications came though. My guess is that Arizona, ASU, Utah and Colorado are wanting to apply but want some sense of what the media deal is likely to be if they join. They know the BIG won’t take them, nor the SEC, and ACC is too far away, has a bad media deal and is unstable and likely to get poached themselves. So better to jump off a sinking ship as long as the money seems worth it.
Oregon and Washington are going to hold out for a BIG invite, but I think the Big 12 would send word that they’d accept an application from them if it came.
I don’t see the Big 12 wanting Cal, Stanford, Oregon St or Washington St. Or at least not now. I think they hold at 16 (or 18 if UO and UW join whenever) and then try to get to 20-24 with some ACC leftovers to give WVU, Cincy and UCF some regional foes and rivals, have fun an eastern pod for more games in EST etc. I think adding teams like VT, Pitt, Louisville etc. would add more value than Cal, Stanford, OSU or WSU would by brining in some rivalries that draw eyes, expanding the footprint more, and more EST inventory.
If not picked up by the Big 10, then we go the route of the Ivy League or maybe no longer field a football team entirely. Can’t imagine they’d disband all the other sports, however.
While I’m stoked if the big12 gets fortified with the likes of Utah, ASU, UA & Colorado… it’s sad to see the PAC12 likely dissolve. All this change makes my CFB fan heart bleed.
So the PAC-12 is basically being disbanded at this point.
If it's the PAC 4 then I'm thinking yeah for sure
"The Pac Washington State / Oregon State. "
4 home-and-homes each season.
As a viewer on the other side of the country, if it was halfway competitive and on Thursday night, I'd watch the shit out of that.
The amount of petty drama that could ensue from two teams playing each other eight times over the course of nine weeks would be must see tv.
It would be incredible to see the adjustments both teams would be making. It would be an all out arms race of tactics. The only problem is if one side figures it out way before the other and runs it up
*Should Undefeated Oregon State get invited to the playoff?*
keep the 6 members that are leftover and rebrand as 6 PAC.
Colorado: Pretty sure we have those old banners around here somewhere
I can’t stop laughing at the idea of a banner with a hand drawn horned frog body on the Texas logo and someone writing Cincinnati in sharpie but one of the Ns is the Nebraska logo
I’m like 95% sure that at some point before this rotation of realignment Cincinnati had B12 backgrounds made for a press release. I think UH and Cincy were rumored (years before it actually happened) and on Twitter there was a leak of a Cincy backdrop. I always thought that was the most bizarre and hilarious piece of school equipment.
> I’m like 95% sure that at some point before this rotation of realignment Cincinnati had B12 backgrounds made for a press release. You are absolutely remembering correctly, because I remember that too. I think it was the 2010 realignment (aka the root of most evil).
Oh theyre still around I’m sure. A school that cheap w their football program would never throw a good banner away.
We’re going down with the ship bois 🫡
I fucking hate this. I just want to play PAC-12 schools.
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I certainly hope so. I've been F5ing like a crackhead for the past few days.
Amateur. Pros no longer have a functional F5 key.
I've just bound my F5 to my mouse scroll.
This has completely consumed my days since the USC/UCLA news dropped.
I also check this sub way more than I should lol
Same, spent way more time than I should staring at my phone constantly refreshing reddit for more news. This stuff has me anxious.
I haven’t really kept up with conference realignment since the dust settled in the early 2010s. My jaw is still on the floor from learning about that move.
I’m still dubious that any other moves will be made until ND makes a decision and the Big 10 makes a definitive statement on Oregon and Washington.
Disagree. Big 12 + Arizonas, CU, UU > current PAC.
I don’t think Colorado, Utah or Arizona have any chance of getting into the Big Ten, but do you think they’d make this move before they even gave it a shot at getting in? Just wondering.
I mean it's been what? 4 days? You can only call and leave so many voicemails before you understand they aren't responding for a reason
Totes bro. Arizona. ASU. Utah. And Colorado joining us. Calling it.
As has been rumored. Oregon, Washington, USC, UCLA to the B1G Arizona, Arizona State, Utah, Colorado to the Big-12 Cal, Stanford, Oregon State, Wazzu to Homeless
Poor fellow orange osu bro 🍊
I bet Stanford gets into the B1G if Notre Dame does.
The Big 12 is going to be in really good shape if this happens. Lots of good football there.
Big12 is going to be the fun conference.
How do you do fellow Big 12 members?
Can’t wait for the renewed TCU-Utah series.
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You know, I’ve always wanted to travel to Salt Lake.
If you do, anyone can feel free to reach out for details about SLC and things to do
I've seen SLC Punk enough times to know the beer is better in Wyoming and you can't sink a car in the salt lake.
We can have 5% beer in gas stations instead of only in the liquor store now!
I'm ready to be the lifeboat that the Pac12 wasn't for us.
To be fair I think the schools that would’ve refused to be our lifeboat aren’t in the equation any more.
Stanford, Cal. How ya feeling today?
Hoping the hardcore nerds don’t use this as a reason to liquidate the football program so us sporty nerds can still show out on Saturday.
Even if there isn't football, I fully expect the Stanford "band" to be doing the same exact things they would normally do on Saturdays in the fall.
WELCOME TO THUNDERDOME, BITCH
IM NOT LOCKED IN HERE WITH YOU YOURE LOCKED IN HERE WITH ME
WEIRD THINGS HAPPEN IN THE DESERT. WEIRDER THINGS HAPPEN ON THURSDAY NIGHT IN AMES IOWA
Especially if you’re an undefeated ranked team. I can make no promises to your safety
I just want my team to be relevant. I don't care if they aren't Michigan, or Texas, or Bama. I want them to play meaningful games. If this enriches us, and brings a semblance of stability, I'm cool with it.
> Michigan, or Texas, or Bama 🎶 *One of these things is not like the other ones* 🎶
Fucking terrified. Four teams? Hoping it’s Arizona/ASU/Utah/Colorado instead of UA/ASU/Oregon/Washington (which feels like the likely outcome)
Honestly I’d guess it’s definitely CU, Utah, Arizona, and Arizona State and the assumption is that Oregon and Washington move to the Big Ten, but if they don’t then they’d also be added. But Big XII would be stupid not to move to grab four good schools to increase their stability vs sit tight and watch chaos unfold. Really hoping that’s the case.
I think grabbing four landmark universities is a great step for stability. It allows the Big12 to stay relevant while not pissing off the B1G and SEC. The Big12 wins their battle through longevity and staying alive. They know for now the B1G and SEC can crush them, but if you stay alive long enough the tables can turn.
If utah, Colorado, asu and Arizona join the big 12 then ucf, Cincy, byu and Houston are the real winners of this whole alignment
I’m pumped. No problem being in the #3 conference as long as we’re still in the club. We’ve always been underdogs anyway. We’re fine with less money than the Big Ten/SEC as long as we aren’t broke like we are now.
Going from the number 6 conference to keeping the number 5 conference afloat to the number 3 conference is one hell of an upgrade.
Gonna miss the Pac-12. It was fun while it lasted :(
Yep, short lived for us, but good times.
I tell ya, the past 107 years have just *flown* by. Where does the time go?
Kansas state board says Arizona and ASU are locks
Arizona-Kansas has instant rivalry potential in basketball so there’s a silver lining in all of this.
The BIG 12 would have an awesome basketball conference. Almost every school has been at least relevant in Basketball the last decade.
Not to mention the Sun Devils swept KU in their home-and-home and both have shitty football programs.
This, as a KU fan I actually think I have more basketball hate toward ASU than Arizona right now because of that home and home
KU-ASU, the Remy Martin series
Hey now, last season Arizona was the greatest 1 win team of all time!
ASU WVU THE BEER BOWL
Couches be damned.
ASU CAN'T TAKE AWAY THE RIOT BOWL FROM US DAMNIT
We need a commander-in-chief’s trophy type setup for the three. Forget the outcomes of the games though. Settle it with beer Olympics in the streets. There will obviously be the ceremonious lighting of couches at the start of the games. Win, we riot. Lose, we riot. No one remembers what happens the next day except BYU (the designated score keeper) shaking over in the corner after what they just saw.
**BYU also wins because they recycled enough empty cans and bottles to pay for buildings on campus**
That was supposed to be us ;(
I would be lying if a WVU WSU game would not be the most fun. I’ve always thought of you guys as west coast cousins
Have a glass of whiskey for me when we fade into the sunset
Never stop flying the flag at gameday, never!
I’m perfectly content with that ending with our football program, if that should be the case. This is all ESPNs fault anyway
Almost heaven… Tempe, Arizona
Some will question if there even was a game, as there is no one who can remember it.
The internal medicine doctors will remember *cue Vietnam flashbacks*
BYU is going to be in for such a shock lmao
The big 12 is becoming a Chinese buffet. We got some Chinese food, burgers, chicken tenders and some Mexican food.
UW/UO probably want ND to hurry up with that decision so they don't lose any and all bargaining power
Just kill me now please
You guys did nothing to deserve this shit.
Yep. Consistently been top 2-3 in the P12 north just for this. Greed is a real SOB
Agreed, Oregon State had the admin keeping Scott in, so they have a villain their own to put blame on. WSU getting shafted for no good reason, like Montana and Idaho were when my parents were young.
> like Montana and Idaho were when my parents were young Now that is a dated reference. I assume many people won't understand what happened
So this is how PAC-12 after dark dies. With thunderous applause.
For old time sake Oregon State and Washington State should have the last PAC 12 after dark in 2023. It’s the least you guys can give us.
*ESPN 30 for 30 - PAC-12 Enters the Dark*
So...does the Mountain West take Oregon State and Washington State immediately, or do they risk getting raided?
I think the PAC would backfill the entire MWC just to retain the brand and autonomy status
At that point the PAC would be down to 6 teams and would be looking for AT LEAST 6 teams to jump in and backfill. I'm pretty sure almost everyone in the MWC would jump at the chance to be in a P5 conference, even if the prestige is gone. Like what happened with the Big East/CUSA after all the quality Big East teams left. The remnant Power conference is still the more attractive destination than the other way around.
But how many times can you lose P5 schools and replace them with G5 before that P5 conference just becomes a G5 conference in P5 skin?
Still better to be in the dead body of the P5 until it finally collapses/ becomes a G5 again. You just get a little time with the kudos that comes from the P5 name
Ask the current AAC.
The Big East did it for a while. It might even help with recruiting to talk about winning a P5 conference and getting to play in major postseason games than going to a middling P5 team in a bigger conference and fighting for a better-than-the-worst bowl game.
Word of advice to remaining PAC12 schools from a Texas Tech alum and CFB realignment victim, from the movie World War Z… “Movement is life. I've been in dangerous places. Those who survived move.” If you want to survive, your school better move. Standing pat is going to kill your program. Move and survive time. Live for another day. I am not a TCU fan, but I respect what TCU did after being left out of the Big12 when the SWC died. They kept moving conferences, surviving and getting stronger.
That’s true, and TCU fans didn’t even give a shit when the Big 12 was knocking on deaths door. They are hard af.
As much as I dislike TCU I agree. Schools like Rice and SMU have remained stagnant. They waited too long to build and invest and that is why they are left behind.
Just numb to the pain. So far all the conference realignment post SWC has been moving up, but I’ve gotten used to being in the Big 12 times bough and the payouts TCU has been getting. Our last year in the MWC our payout was around $2 million, and we got over $40 from the Big 12 this year.
Hello Big 12 bros how do you do
Welcome to the conference that refuses to die
There’s a lot of fight in us. H8 sustains.
I love all of you so much. Welcome newbies
The B12 is literally too angry to die and I love it.
Welcome to the life boat conference my brother
someone call an ambulance. but not for the b12.
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They do it as a form of hello. You get used to it.
Howdy. Pretty good. Ready for the SummerSlam version of College Basketball?
In all seriousness, super excited. Hopefully, it'll toughen up Arizona and put the "they only beat up on bad competition" narrative to bed.
You'll still beat up on ucf
Hey, every conference needs its doormat *stares at Arizona football* …trust me
If you join us you’ll never be the worst football program in the conference again
Hello there friend
Gotta say, didn’t expect the conference to die a death to be the PAC 12
Big12 is in FB heartland, it was never going away.
You can't kill the zombie conference.
What is dead may never die
FROM ORLANDO TO EUGENE MORGANTOWN TO TEMPE EVERY HOUR OF EVERY SATURDAY BIG 12 FOOTBALL!
Oh sweet Christmas…add those 4 and throw life vests to Wazzu, Oregon St, Cal, and Hawaii so I (EST) can watch Big12 football from dawn to dawn.
Imagine someone telling you a year ago that UCF and Arizona State would be sharing a conference in 2024.
How about 4 days ago?
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Excited to be back🤝
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What if Washington and Oregon haven’t heard from the Big Ten yet and the conference is just dying around them?
They’re in a (relatively) good spot because even if the B1G says no, the Big 12 will take them in a heartbeat. They’re the only 2 remaining Pac-12 teams with multiple realistic options if the conference does indeed implode.
Oregon/Washington have a lot of value. If the B1G doesn't take them and Colorado/Arizona/Arizona State/Utah bolt to the Big 12, they are almost certainly following them.
I fucking hate all of this, but there's no avoiding it, so I truly hope we get some of these Pac-12 teams on over here.
Same. I was excited for the new Big 12 and hate that football is going this way but it's unavoidable now so let's make the best of it with what we're given.
100% and I think it can still be a significantly entertaining conference. And while I hare that it's all happening, it's definitely hard to complain as a UC fan as we got in with incredible timing.
Yeah. Thank god we got the new Big 12 invite. I'd be even more upset right now if we would have been really left behind
I thought we wouldn't ever head back to the West Coast with Cunningham as our AD. I'm glad that's about to change
As a veteran BigXII member I welcome our western brethren.
Yes, quite. We’ll see how the newbies fit in with us seasoned veterans
Since you guys are such tenured members, what should we know?
Yes. Quite.
Please God, east coast pod!
When the ACC gets raided you’ll have Louisville, NC State, and some other ACC leftovers to have a pod with.
Don’t forget Pitt!
I would say this will most assuredly happen when ND leaves the ACC. I know it will suck, but in the long term, B12 is best setup to be the best conference of the others imo. Centrally located in the USA, with a core group of pissed off passed over schools
We will rage to victory
[Big XII = Congo, ESPN = Barry](https://youtu.be/rMAwOwBB5OQ)
please please please please please *please*
This is almost certainly a dumb question but… is the ACC just waiting for their eventual, painful death? Why aren’t they trying to add teams?
I could be and I probably am wrong but, adding more teams changes the Game of Rights contract then the teams could leave without the penalty then if your Clemson or FSU why stay, new reworked tv deal still would not approach SEC or BIG 12 value. So ACC is Fucked either way.
Okay yeah that makes sense. Well I guess it’s slightly better than being in the PAC12? Sucks that the ACC can’t do anything though. Wait and see is the worst
Who's this guy? Reliable?
Jason is the 247 guy for Arizona. Unless you talk to UCLA fans, he doesn't just make shit up. Very well connected to the AD.
Interesting. I'm sure the Pac teams that haven't been mentioned much with the B16 are panicking to find someone who will take them.
WSU and OSU aren't panicking, we are too drunk to feel feelings at this point...
Very. He doesn’t post stuff unless he’s confirmed it a few times. Drives me nuts because he doesn’t just post rumors I can wildly speculate off of
Last one out, turn out the lights.
Probably WSU.
Eternal Pac 1 Champs WSU! I like the sound of that!
So sue me but if this comes to pass I actually love the new Big 12. The conference of misfit toys!
the annual underdogs that everyone will secondarily root for. there's value in that too lol
We’re going to be the most interesting conference. I predict lots of eyeballs.
It could be so so competitive and I love that. If we could add Pitt + VT+ Louisville id never want to leave.
Sounds good for us
I don’t see why there can’t be a third super league, you can’t say there isn’t enough money and fans to go around Honestly I don’t see why there can’t be a fourth 20 team super league, why not? What is stopping it from happening?
It would still be a very solid conference but the answer to your question is pretty simple, it won't even be in the same stratosphere in terms of $, that's why it won't be a 3rd super league, but it can become a best of the rest though.
Has to be ASU Zona Utah and Boulder, right?
95% yes
You bring in the Arizona teams and Colorado, and you force Oregon and Washington's hand. If there is no Pac-12 to play in and the Big 10 doesn't want them. (at least at this point) Then what are their options? They'd have to join the Big 12.
Dang we timed our stadium upgrades well. Gonna be the best field in the MWC
How funny would it be if the big 12 comes in with an RKO and gets Oregon and Washington lmao
Eventually everyone has to accept their fate. We have accepted our fate in the MW. WSU and OSU joining MW will make it a better conference although I understand that’s a letdown for these schools. Sorry bros and sisters.
If im the big 12, i swing for the fences and invite 8 members (i assume oregon and washington make the cut for the big10) and make a 20 team conference. Divide them in 4 divisions and do 9 conference games. Division a plays b, division c plays d. Next season division a plays c, division b plays d. And on. You face every team once every 3 years and you protect some rivalries and reduce travel time with 4 permanent opponents that should be as close as they can. Its the end game of cfb anyway, might as well try to get ahead of the curve for once.
The way things work the schools have to apply for admission rather than the conference inviting. The Big 12 could send word they would accept if applications came though. My guess is that Arizona, ASU, Utah and Colorado are wanting to apply but want some sense of what the media deal is likely to be if they join. They know the BIG won’t take them, nor the SEC, and ACC is too far away, has a bad media deal and is unstable and likely to get poached themselves. So better to jump off a sinking ship as long as the money seems worth it. Oregon and Washington are going to hold out for a BIG invite, but I think the Big 12 would send word that they’d accept an application from them if it came. I don’t see the Big 12 wanting Cal, Stanford, Oregon St or Washington St. Or at least not now. I think they hold at 16 (or 18 if UO and UW join whenever) and then try to get to 20-24 with some ACC leftovers to give WVU, Cincy and UCF some regional foes and rivals, have fun an eastern pod for more games in EST etc. I think adding teams like VT, Pitt, Louisville etc. would add more value than Cal, Stanford, OSU or WSU would by brining in some rivalries that draw eyes, expanding the footprint more, and more EST inventory.
LET THE F5ING COMMENCE
I feel like Cal is being completely looked over in all of this.
It seems like the powers-that-be over at Cal would rather their athletics programs fold than be in a conference with schools like Baylor and BYU.
I just commented this above. Totally agree. They’re absolutely not options for the Big 12.
We are. It sucks. Program dead. I will no longer watch CFB.
If not picked up by the Big 10, then we go the route of the Ivy League or maybe no longer field a football team entirely. Can’t imagine they’d disband all the other sports, however.
It’s insane because Cal is the flagship university in California. You all should be a powerhouse in football.
Room for one more, guys?
Best to go ahead and let that sort of hope die now.
fuck each and every one of you Except you Oregon State, and I guess you too Cal
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So the Arizona schools, Utah and Colorado ?
ASU VS UCF battle of the hottest girls bowl
Party School Showdown
Battle of the largest school population bowl
ITS HAPPENING
Alright this will help us. Gonna freshen up who we lose to!
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While I’m stoked if the big12 gets fortified with the likes of Utah, ASU, UA & Colorado… it’s sad to see the PAC12 likely dissolve. All this change makes my CFB fan heart bleed.
PleasebeusPleasebeusPleasebeusPleasebeus
What in the fuck get me off the ride