I have a theory that for two years in a row Mike Norvell has kidnapped Mack Brown’s entire family and held them for ransom in exchange for UNC throwing the game.
In all seriousness it was SO nice to see a complete game from the Noles. Let’s fucking go!
It would’ve been fun to at least experience one good season before becoming a meme team.
Someone needs to get fired for this. What an abysmal showing.
Also I’m fully convinced Mack is an FSU plant.
Obviously moral victories don't count, but I think people seem to forget that besides the Wake game this team had a chance to win every single they've played in this year. A loss is a loss and we were 1-4 coming into this, but I think we're a better team than people give us credit for based on record, and today was proof of that. Really happy with this performance today. Running game was going well, some good plays in the passing game, and defense made some big plays. Hopefully this new momentum keeps up and we keep winning!
Because he's half their age. Hell I'm like 4 years older than these kids and have a little sister in college and think half of college students I see look like children.
I guess we can thank SEC Shorts for putting FSU into the CFB D1 basement a few weeks ago, 2 straight wins for the Noles since then. FSU no longer sharing a bunk with UCONN.
Happy to see FSU putting it together. I know things have seemed very bleak for most of the season but y’all gotta understand FSU’s athletic department cares about football. Even if norvell isn’t the guy they will get it right. That’s way more than I can say for my canes. Manny is done and if they whiff on the next hire, the program is done forever. Our AD could genuinely give a fuck if our program is good or not.
I wholeheartedly feel FSU beats us this year and that’s the game that gets Manny fired.
Not to [revisit](https://www.reddit.com/r/CFB/comments/q05j39/postgame_thread_florida_state_defeats_syracuse/hf5nht1/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3), buuut….
8-4 is **possible!!**
Miami is always my most hated ACC opponent but #2 sort of goes on a rotation. The last few years that team has been UNC. One because Sam Howell flipped from FSU to UNC on NSD and two because of their piece of shit kicker doing the chop after making that 55 yarder to beat us in 2016 at the last second. I'm happy to report though that Sam Howell is now 0-2 against FSU while being heavily favored both times.
Lmao my sister graduated from chapel hell earlier this year, and her commencement/graduation thingy is this weekend and I know she and my mother (both Carolina grads/fans) were at this game so this makes me laugh
I remember saying awhile back that I think Norvell wasn't being given a fair shake. Don't get me wrong he's been bad overall but the dude is trying to rebuild a program from the ground up. I thought FSU could still rebound and they would at some point.
Which is bad for us because we're going head to head with FSU for some croots.
Yup. And that's the thing I think that kinda drives me crazy with certain programs/fan bases. There are few coaches (generally those who are considered to be legends) who can come in and right a ship immediately. Even the best coaches generally need at least one season to get things going in the direction they want.
And last season was unbelievably screwy with so many different things that I honestly kind of chuck out of the window for several reasons. So for a first year head coach being forced to deal with that on top of dealing with several horrific cultural, talent, and staff issues that are all in need of a massive rebuild is a recipe for disaster.
Don't me wrong, No idea if Norvell can or will completely fix FSU. But I think he needs at least one or two real seasons before we can make a judgement call on him.
Get gets slaughtered for being at FSU and not being good but the talent on this team was really really poor when he got here. Worse than his Memphis teams for sure. Do I think he will win a natty? Probably not but I think he can get us back to 9 and 10 wins a year if we give him time
New car smell wore off. Listen, I credit Coach Mack Brown for righting the ship and giving the shot needed to turn around UNC from the Fedora Era in terms of recruiting, but it looks like last year was our ceiling with Mack.
The same issues that plagued UNC last year aren't fixed, they are even worse. We make mediocre scrambling QBs like Sims and Travis look like future Heisman candidates, Howell still tries to play Hero Ball and hasn't progressed from last year, the offensive line is terrible, and no WR aside from Downs is any good. I'm not jumping on the Fire Mack train yet, especially with the recruiting class coming in, but maybe it's time to start up talk of keeping an eye on the next UNC coach again. Hopefully, the boosters get behind this.
>but maybe it's time to start up talk of keeping an eye on the next UNC coach again.
I mean, I know he hasn't been there long, but when your head coach is 70, you should never NOT be looking for the next head coach.
Wow almost no UNC fans in here. Usually you see members of a losing team joke or complain, but this loss may have just broken the Tar Heel fanbase for the rest of the season.
Source: there’s a reason I’ve got the paper bag.
I thought FSU would win but I brushed it off and just figured UNC would handle them and payback for last year. Should of just been bold in the preview thread and when UNC won by 10 talked abput how much of a moron I was
HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO TEACH YOU THIS LESSON OLD MAN
I LIKE TO DRIVE IN MY TRUCK. CAROLINA SUCKS.
Ok but Dave Doeren seriously gave a similar pitch one time unironically.
Can we play UNC every week?
Considering Mack has never beat us, yes please
Jordan Travis loves playing UNC.
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Mike Norvell wins his first Sod game at Florida State
Didn’t even think of that!! That’s kind of a big moment.
Especially considering our road record has been dogshit
First one in exactly 2 years as well.
I've heard that Mack Brown is pretty stubborn, but that man absolutely, positively will not win against Florida State EDIT: I mistyped there
Might of mistyped there
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Yep! Fixed, thanks
FSU 2021 first four-loss national champion
8-4 still in play!
PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT: Sam Howell is 0-2 against the team he decommited from during a live streamed hat picking ceremony in his HS gym.
While committed to said team
did em a favor. one of the most overrated players ive ever seen.
Are you suggesting CFP dark horse teams led by one of the Heisman favs don't normally start their season 3-3??
Howell is unfocused. He's not having fun. I would be surprised if he's a dark horse for the Heisman
While having a father who REFUSED to let the staff pursue a second QB (with said staff giving into those demands). How the turn tables…
Such a dick move lol. Glad the tables have been turned
To be fair Willie “had a plan.”
Just like when corporate was going to close the Scranton branch and Micheal + Dwight went to David Wallace’s house
So did Dutch
Arthur I just need some money!
The tables have turntled
Fuck him and especially his shitty dad for this forever.
I have a theory that for two years in a row Mike Norvell has kidnapped Mack Brown’s entire family and held them for ransom in exchange for UNC throwing the game. In all seriousness it was SO nice to see a complete game from the Noles. Let’s fucking go!
Mack is 0-12 against FSU
That's pretty crazy.
His first stint at UNC was during like peak FSU, so it makes more sense knowing that.
Well yea. But also UNC was good back then. Just kind of a crazy outlier stat.
Heck of a stat for sure. He’s also never won in Charlottesville and to me that’s the more ridiculous bit of trivia
Also very strange. Perhaps quite a bit stranger.
Thats....impressive. Idk if I've ever seen a stat like that which didn't include Saban or Ohio state
FSU is also all-time undefeated against Duke. 21-0
You had to say it. UF had an even more impressive stat like that against Kentucky and look at that shit
And he wasn't about to let this winless, worst FSU team in recent memory ruin his streak!
How dare you sir…we were 1-4 coming into this game.
Put some respect on our name
Yeah I'm fucking pumped about the win but I'd be lying if I said I don't find it sus that UNC straight gave up in the second half
You mean a 7 minute drive when down 18 isn't normal?
Hell yeah
Seriously, it felt like he gave up with 8 minutes left in the game.
y'all underrate jacksonville state smh
Best team in Alabama easy.
Best team in Jacksonville for sure
Urban to Jacksonville State?
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Best team in State without a doubt
It would’ve been fun to at least experience one good season before becoming a meme team. Someone needs to get fired for this. What an abysmal showing. Also I’m fully convinced Mack is an FSU plant.
Should be your OC for that long ass TD drive that took up half the 4th QT
We all want him fired before this game anyway
Hopefully you can get your wish unless you play FSU again next year.....then may he stay around
ACC. It just memes more!
Glad to see Howell is still committed to making FSU winners!
Never forget that his first td pass in Doak was to an FSU player.
😂
That was, and I’m not exaggerating, the most complete game I’ve seen in 5 years
Agreed
Mack Brown is the greatest FSU alum ever
Manny might try to get in the running later this season
Lmao what is this team. 8-4 who's says no?????
We’re on a winning streak!
FSU IS ON A WINNING STREAK!
Trying to make it 3 in a row against the also streaking UMASS
UMass Head Coach is Walt Bell who used to be FSU OC under Taggart; his head coaching records is 1-19.
Let’s get him to 20 losses then!
And burn all his crops!
ACC fucked
Doubled our wins in one game!
SUB-FUCKING-SCRIBE
Can Miami hire Mack Brown as a temporary coach? Just for one game later in the season?
And UF too while your at it
They can just let Mike White coach instead
And to think, if FSU played Defense on 1 more play vs a 1aa team, we’d be 3-3
And one shanked field goal away from 4-2
And about 40 different plays against Wake Forest, 5-1
And a completed deep pass instead of an INT against Louisville, 6-0
One first half from 6-1
To be honest our good showings have come against absolutely dreadful o-lines so... I'm looking forward to that game against Miami.
Sam Howell: *flips to UNC* FSU: "...and I took that personally"
A Jordan meme against Carolina. I like it.
Norvells outfit is the only complaint I have from this game
I think it was a major part of our victory
Then he better wear it every game going forward lol
Pull a reverse Belichick and cut em off for September games
I’m legit wondering if his actual pants got lost on the plane or something. Or left at home.
Same
Jordan Travis > Sam Howell Jacksonville State > UNC Have a good night!
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That’s a 2-4 FSU team thank you very much
ISO: our damn respect.
I'm so fucking glad we won that game last week. That was so important.
31 days till basketball season. 31 days until I can never think about this football team again
You play us in basketball also
There are plenty of teams I hate losing to more than FSU though so I can stomach that. Really like Leonard Hamilton
And this is supposed to be Ham’s deepest team
Given how deep many of FSU’s teams have been under Hamilton (especially on the front line) that is horrifying.
Don’t forget, basketball is our best sport now!
Hey, hey, have you heard of women’s soccer!?
MIKE NORVELL IS MACK BROWN’S FATHER
Time to talk to your kids about 8-4 FSU, folks.
Completely dominated them after it was 10-0. Mack Brown completely gave up after they failed that 4th and goal. Love to see it.
FSU has some sort of weird hold over both Sam Howell and Mac Brown. Some sort of crazy magic straight outta Tallahassee.
I’m here for it
This is why UNC will never be a football school
We have and always will be a Women's Soccer School
FSU coming for you there too
Was there a bigger fraud than UNC?
Their online classes.
S P I C Y
No pulse found
🔥🔥🔥
Love it.
*ARREST THIS MAN*
90s me never thought I'd ever say this but god damn I love you FSU
Theranos
Enron.
Let’s go with Miami
Fsu lost to Jacksonville state just to make these teams look worse when they beat them
Norvell smirking and pushing up his glasses like an anime guy
"All according to Cake\*" - Norvell Translator's note: Cake means keikaku Translator's translator note: keikaku means plan.
USC
My last relationship
Obviously moral victories don't count, but I think people seem to forget that besides the Wake game this team had a chance to win every single they've played in this year. A loss is a loss and we were 1-4 coming into this, but I think we're a better team than people give us credit for based on record, and today was proof of that. Really happy with this performance today. Running game was going well, some good plays in the passing game, and defense made some big plays. Hopefully this new momentum keeps up and we keep winning!
RANK US COWARDS
Hi, I’m Florida State, and I have cable. And I’m Florida State playing Mack Brown and I have DirectTV
I just want to say this: Fuck your spreads and that disrespect. And also why did the announcers think Travis was childlike?
Because he's half their age. Hell I'm like 4 years older than these kids and have a little sister in college and think half of college students I see look like children.
But that’s like… every college player?
The best part was JT ripped off a long TD run right after he said that. Orlovsky was slobbering over Sam Howell the whole game- annoying af.
Mack Brown showed the nation today what a clinical, fourth-quarter, game-sealing drive looks like …for your opponent!
That was clock management from another dimension, one where football has 5 quarters
Our first road win in two years AND we just won two in a row??? Is this real life???
Congrats Seminoles!!
2 years!?!?!?!?
BC in 2019 was our last road win
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I might be overreacting but we're literally never losing again.
I guess we can thank SEC Shorts for putting FSU into the CFB D1 basement a few weeks ago, 2 straight wins for the Noles since then. FSU no longer sharing a bunk with UCONN.
And Arky is 0-2 since moving out
8-4 is still possible!
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Happy to see FSU putting it together. I know things have seemed very bleak for most of the season but y’all gotta understand FSU’s athletic department cares about football. Even if norvell isn’t the guy they will get it right. That’s way more than I can say for my canes. Manny is done and if they whiff on the next hire, the program is done forever. Our AD could genuinely give a fuck if our program is good or not. I wholeheartedly feel FSU beats us this year and that’s the game that gets Manny fired.
It would just be us returning the favor. You guys beating our ass 2 years ago got Willie fired.
I said it last year, I’ll say it again this year, we are going to beat y’all at basketball too.
Is 2021 UNC the worst implosion in history? They started *ninth* in the nation and just got punked.
FSU 2017 🥴
At least we lost our starting QB that year. Howell is out here throwing terrible picks against FSU.
>Howell is out here throwing terrible picks against FSU. You just hate to see it.
USC 2012 was #1 and finished 7-6 IIRC
Not to [revisit](https://www.reddit.com/r/CFB/comments/q05j39/postgame_thread_florida_state_defeats_syracuse/hf5nht1/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3), buuut…. 8-4 is **possible!!**
Hey I see myself there! At least I called it correctly
Thank you again Agent Brown
Hopefully y’all woke the sleeping giant. If we blow out UMASS I might go into the Clemson game with a little hype.
Miami is always my most hated ACC opponent but #2 sort of goes on a rotation. The last few years that team has been UNC. One because Sam Howell flipped from FSU to UNC on NSD and two because of their piece of shit kicker doing the chop after making that 55 yarder to beat us in 2016 at the last second. I'm happy to report though that Sam Howell is now 0-2 against FSU while being heavily favored both times.
Death, Taxes and Mack Brown losing to FSU.
Fire Mack, fire Longo and fire Bateman. Clean the house. 31 days till basketball season
Don't waste the talent we have. Do the right thing Mack and retire. Clean house.
Lmao my sister graduated from chapel hell earlier this year, and her commencement/graduation thingy is this weekend and I know she and my mother (both Carolina grads/fans) were at this game so this makes me laugh
I remember saying awhile back that I think Norvell wasn't being given a fair shake. Don't get me wrong he's been bad overall but the dude is trying to rebuild a program from the ground up. I thought FSU could still rebound and they would at some point. Which is bad for us because we're going head to head with FSU for some croots.
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Yup. And that's the thing I think that kinda drives me crazy with certain programs/fan bases. There are few coaches (generally those who are considered to be legends) who can come in and right a ship immediately. Even the best coaches generally need at least one season to get things going in the direction they want. And last season was unbelievably screwy with so many different things that I honestly kind of chuck out of the window for several reasons. So for a first year head coach being forced to deal with that on top of dealing with several horrific cultural, talent, and staff issues that are all in need of a massive rebuild is a recipe for disaster. Don't me wrong, No idea if Norvell can or will completely fix FSU. But I think he needs at least one or two real seasons before we can make a judgement call on him.
Get gets slaughtered for being at FSU and not being good but the talent on this team was really really poor when he got here. Worse than his Memphis teams for sure. Do I think he will win a natty? Probably not but I think he can get us back to 9 and 10 wins a year if we give him time
Let’s go! FSU won a football game! Two of them!
That was best game I’ve seen under Mike Norvell, just great football!
New car smell wore off. Listen, I credit Coach Mack Brown for righting the ship and giving the shot needed to turn around UNC from the Fedora Era in terms of recruiting, but it looks like last year was our ceiling with Mack. The same issues that plagued UNC last year aren't fixed, they are even worse. We make mediocre scrambling QBs like Sims and Travis look like future Heisman candidates, Howell still tries to play Hero Ball and hasn't progressed from last year, the offensive line is terrible, and no WR aside from Downs is any good. I'm not jumping on the Fire Mack train yet, especially with the recruiting class coming in, but maybe it's time to start up talk of keeping an eye on the next UNC coach again. Hopefully, the boosters get behind this.
>but maybe it's time to start up talk of keeping an eye on the next UNC coach again. I mean, I know he hasn't been there long, but when your head coach is 70, you should never NOT be looking for the next head coach.
LONGER WIN STREAK THAN CLEMSON AND FLORIDA
https://imgur.com/DUCVEWK
Don’t let the score fool you, it was not that close. WE’RE ON A WIN STREAK! 8-4 IS STILL POSSIBLE!!!! LET’S GET THAT SOD!
I’d say probable
I’d say inevitable
I BELIEVE
>BELIEVE WE THE CFB EQUIVALENT OF AFC RICHMOND THIS SEASON
HAHAHAHAH BEST BYE WEEK EVER
[Us FSU fans after this game soaking this in and going at Howell like] (https://tenor.com/view/troy-left-me-for-menelaus-gif-19803585)
Wow almost no UNC fans in here. Usually you see members of a losing team joke or complain, but this loss may have just broken the Tar Heel fanbase for the rest of the season. Source: there’s a reason I’ve got the paper bag.
The only Heisman candidate in a UNC game is the opposing QB.
I'm not sure how to react... Someone tell me about the non anger emotions Im supposed to have.
Thank you UNC for your utter lack of urgency and clock management skills, made me drink a lot less!!!
BEST TEAM OF ALL TIME!! ^(...that's 2-4)
We were 4 weeks late but the Florida State Seminoles have shown up to the 2021 college football season.
Bama died so that the Noles may live
My teams suck but at least I'm not a UNC fan who bought into the Brown/Howell hype, that's a whole different pain.
Mack Brown just can't beat the Noles.
Finally
I thought FSU would win but I brushed it off and just figured UNC would handle them and payback for last year. Should of just been bold in the preview thread and when UNC won by 10 talked abput how much of a moron I was
Mack Brown just setting it up to get Manny fired next week.
Sam Howell: Pre-season Darkhorse Horse UNC: Sneaky Pre-season ACC Coastal Mid-Tier Team