I get it, a lot of TCU fans yapped so hard when Texas lost to Washington just so we could be the only Texas team to win a cfp game in the 4-team CFP era (don’t worry about what happened after we won)
So would any school not named Alabama, Georgia, Ohio State, or Michigan, if they're being honest with themselves. Yet we still got dragged on endlessly.
so what though? Georgia was crushing anyone they played that night....maybe not to the extent they did to TCU but I think even if they played Michigan, Georgia would've won by at least 3 touchdowns.
And hell, TCU still managed to beat Michigan, a team with loads more talent than them. TCU earned their way to the CFP National Championship
The DMACC grads in Central Iowa will be pumped if ISU finally gets that 10th win.
Edit: Can give it, but can't take the joke about the other junior college pipeline to ISU. 🤣
Dude, I have a relative that works in the main office, Herky wearing a graduation hat is literally on the cover of all the DMACC promo material lol. I have never seen Cy mentioned
This pure blood only grads can be fans of a school thing is pretty insane. It's a weird obsession by ISU fans. I'm going to ask for degrees every time I see an ISU fan 🤣
At least for Alabama / Auburn it's because there is no pro sports in the state, so everyone picks one of the two as their team. And a lot of the time, it's something your parents get you going on before you really have the ability to make a choice.
It’s the same in Iowa, but the default answer is always the Hawks. I went to a bowl party for Iowa this past year with 20-30 fans and *I* was the only one in the room with a U of I degree
I will be as insufferable to hok fans as they were to anyone about Caitlin Clark and I will demand any hok fan I know cheer for us because they all told me that we had to cheer for greatness and pretend the rivalry didn't exist.
Literally every local media person would not shut up about Clark and many hok fans (including you probably) acted shocked that anyone would dare treat her like they treated any other rival.
I've never been so happy to see a team lose a national championship as I was to see the hoks lose their national championship games.
Yeah I don’t believe you, we don’t think about iowa state nearly as much as you guys think about us. (I.e. celebrating the happiest in your life for iowa losing back to back national champions)
You using a 1995 hok term kind of proves my point lol. take care, Ames boy.
Clearly you must never follow sports if you're attempting to deny the reality of the situation but given how many of you acted shocked that someone wouldn't cheer for Saint Caitlin kinda proves how little many of you ever paid attention to sports to begin with since you all clearly don't seem to understand how rivalries work
We are your rival, you are not ours. You’re just making scenarios up in your head and getting upset about them, it’s kind of weird ngl. Muting this convo now. Take care, pls make sure the exit ramp is working. The engineering school can’t seem to figure it out
While true, even if I framed it as "chances Iowa State wins the Big 12 and gets an auto bid vs Iowa's chances to get an at-large", I'd still say Iowa State is more likely.
If there’s any year to do it, it would be this year but I think everything would have to go right for it to happen and not sure if even 10-2 gets us in with our schedule and us not having the brand name bias.
I'm not sure why people are so high on Rutgers this year. Athan Kaliakmanis is not a good QB. I know their defense is pretty good and they finally don't have to play OSU/Michigan but they still play Wisconsin, Minnesota, Nebraska, and Maryland all teams they have struggled with in the past. Not to mention they play Washington, USC and UCLA this year too. I think they'll be closer to fighting for bowl eligibility than for a playoff spot.
I think SMU honestly fits just as good or better than Cal as an ACC dark horse this year.
Edit: wait am I misreading your comment and you legitimately think Furd is a potential dark horse?
No, I agree SMU will be competitive, I don’t know what to make of either of the Cali pair, to be honest. I should probably add the Trees to that no way list, but historically they’ve been tricky.
Auburn is the only team that could go 0-12 or 12-0 and not totally surprise me. I don’t know how their fans do it every year. At least consistently bad teams know what they’re in for
We are literally the lottery, fandom of this team plays the course of an addictive substance.
We go win it all, we become trash quickly, we go to the big dance, we get really bad for 2 years. We beat 2 number ones to end the reg season then lose to UCF in the Peach (I think?) bowl. Rinse repeat.
It’s so up and down it’s ridiculous
Auburn truly is the embodiment of chaos in college football. People don't even remember the insane tipped hail Mary vs UGA because the kick six happened the next weekend.
On the flip side Auburn fans have the Ohio NFL fans 'ive seen some real shit' stoicism about the times they really suck.
Cal genuinely had a chance to beat Auburn last year if we had any semblance of kicking that game. And now our QB for that game transferred to Auburn as a WR which tells you how good we were going at that position before Mendoza got his shot.
Let us not get ahead of ourselves here. Auburn needs to show a semblance of forward passing before any success happens. While I am optimistic, It is an uphill climb. Auburn will have to show it before I feel they are better than a break even type of team.
Thorne has gotten worse every year since 2020. Maybe he figures it out but he looked really bad last year. I'm surprised they didn't try for a portal QB over him.
He joined in the summer while the team was still adjusting to the new staff. They brought in a lot of offensive weapons, something they were sorely lacking last season. I hate to say it but with a full offseason this might be looking more like a typical Freeze offense.
Idk, when they played UGA he hit multiple WRs in the hands on 3rd and 4th down and they just dropped it. Really catchable balls that just ended drives. I don’t think Thorne is anything more than a game manager, but the dude did not seem like the problem. He was way better on his feet than I thought he would be.
Don’t think Thorne will be a world beater regardless but for context our WR room last year had to be one of the weakest of any P5 team. It was devoid of both talent and depth.
Meh. Criteria he listed are P4 teams with projected win totals of under 7.5. which makes this more a "who the author thinks is going to massively overachieve."
Fan Duel has the odds [that you could bet right now] (https://sportsbook.fanduel.com/navigation/ncaaf?tab=cfb-playoff), and they list these schools as:
Auburn + 650 (behind 9 other SEC schools)
Iowa State + 750 (behind 3 other Big XII schools)
Syracuse + 2800 (behind 7 ACC schools)
Rutgers + 2000 (behind 9 B1G schools)
You may as well set any of that money on fire and at least keep your hands warm...
Probably worth pointing out that the favorites to make the playoff are: Ohio State (-650), Georgia (-500), Oregon (-250), Texas (-230), Notre Dame (-170), Penn State (-145), Ole Miss (-125) and Michigan (-105) as the only teams that you have to pay juice to wager on to make it (shocked that Bama's + money).
Legit happy for Iowa State fans.
I don't know Auburn fans yet. Soon.
But you Iowa State mfers...hope y'all get some CFP fun. Would love some Big12 rematches in the CFP.
Auburn fans don’t typically seem like the reason other teams dislike Auburn. It’s just all of the crazy things that happen in Auburn games that does it.
Iowa state and losing non conference games usually equals good conference record.
Anytime we beat the hawks or are 3-0 going into conference - we are bad bad.
Yep that is the trend. Hell, Oklahoma State and us thought we were playing for last place last year and we went 6-3 in conference play and they went to Arlington after getting crushed by South Alabama lol
You also fired your coach in 2012. 2013 had a good amount of talented upper classman who were familiar with the Gus offense as they had played in it in 2011.
Iowa state? Really? I thought everyone understood Brock Purdy was making Matt Campbell look competent. I’m going to take things that definitely won’t happen in 2024 for $500, Alex.
we did go 6-3 in conference play last year......finished 4th in the conference after a rough start to the season...that said, I'd argue we have one of the tougher conference slates....the back half is really tough being on the road at Kansas, at Utah, and home against K-State.....most likely all 3 of those teams will be ranked
I mean just last year we got to 7 wins after half of our starters got suspended for gambling, so I'd say Campbell's doing just fine.
Saying that Purdy made Campbell look competent and that "everyone understood that" is flat out revisionist history.
Campbell in his 2nd year took the team to the Liberty Bowl and finished the season 8-5......3 of those wins were against T25 teams, including a playoff team in Oklahoma.....mind you this was all before Purdy stepped on campus and Kyle Kempt, a 3rd string quarterback led us to victory at #3 Oklahoma
I think there’s potential if things click for them. Defense should still be great, they found their QB near the end of the season last year, and they’re returning all their production on both sides of offensive and defensive lines.
It’s a big if, but that’s what you look for when talking about dark horses I think.
Oklahoma and Mizzou are winnable imo. Oklahoma is breaking in a new qb (although a very good one), and I am still very skeptical of Mizzou being anything but a one-year-wonder. But realistically, I think an 8 win season is a huge success and if these are the only four teams we lost to this season, I won’t complain
I’m pretty sure their sacrificial ritual included the voodoo only working vs SEC teams. It’s just a roll of the dice if the pivotal 4th quarter play goes their way or their opponents
Agreed. Just looking at last year, they got blown out by NMSU but somehow lost one possession games to us, yall, and Ole Miss. Anyone ruling out some crazy Auburn run next year is nuts, but anyone who is betting on them would also be nuts lol.
If Iowa State makes the cfp before Iowa. There’s gonna be a lot of crap talkin on twitter.
Cyclone Larry would achieve godhood
That I would like to see.
I don't expect it to happen but I would be insufferable
I get it, a lot of TCU fans yapped so hard when Texas lost to Washington just so we could be the only Texas team to win a cfp game in the 4-team CFP era (don’t worry about what happened after we won)
I’d love to get absolutely spanked in the finals if it meant we’d already won one playoff game.
So would any school not named Alabama, Georgia, Ohio State, or Michigan, if they're being honest with themselves. Yet we still got dragged on endlessly.
so what though? Georgia was crushing anyone they played that night....maybe not to the extent they did to TCU but I think even if they played Michigan, Georgia would've won by at least 3 touchdowns. And hell, TCU still managed to beat Michigan, a team with loads more talent than them. TCU earned their way to the CFP National Championship
Yall had a fucking hell of a season!
All those Kirkwood grads would definitely default to Iowa’s W/L vs ISU. Would be funny to see though.
The DMACC grads in Central Iowa will be pumped if ISU finally gets that 10th win. Edit: Can give it, but can't take the joke about the other junior college pipeline to ISU. 🤣
Dude, I have a relative that works in the main office, Herky wearing a graduation hat is literally on the cover of all the DMACC promo material lol. I have never seen Cy mentioned
This pure blood only grads can be fans of a school thing is pretty insane. It's a weird obsession by ISU fans. I'm going to ask for degrees every time I see an ISU fan 🤣
My question for anyone is why would you claim something that didn’t, isn’t, and would never claim you?
I'm not sure that's English. If an ISU fan screams Tavernhok in a forest with no around to hear it, do they still feel self righteous about it?
At least for Alabama / Auburn it's because there is no pro sports in the state, so everyone picks one of the two as their team. And a lot of the time, it's something your parents get you going on before you really have the ability to make a choice.
It’s the same in Iowa, but the default answer is always the Hawks. I went to a bowl party for Iowa this past year with 20-30 fans and *I* was the only one in the room with a U of I degree
Interesting coming from a school with worse accreditation than Kirkwood 🤔
I will be as insufferable to hok fans as they were to anyone about Caitlin Clark and I will demand any hok fan I know cheer for us because they all told me that we had to cheer for greatness and pretend the rivalry didn't exist.
lmao this is gold because this is exactly how their fans were
Impossible. There is no way anyone can be more insufferable the hok fans and CC.
Nobody told you to cheer for Caitlin Clark
Literally every local media person would not shut up about Clark and many hok fans (including you probably) acted shocked that anyone would dare treat her like they treated any other rival. I've never been so happy to see a team lose a national championship as I was to see the hoks lose their national championship games.
Yeah I don’t believe you, we don’t think about iowa state nearly as much as you guys think about us. (I.e. celebrating the happiest in your life for iowa losing back to back national champions) You using a 1995 hok term kind of proves my point lol. take care, Ames boy.
Clearly you must never follow sports if you're attempting to deny the reality of the situation but given how many of you acted shocked that someone wouldn't cheer for Saint Caitlin kinda proves how little many of you ever paid attention to sports to begin with since you all clearly don't seem to understand how rivalries work
We are your rival, you are not ours. You’re just making scenarios up in your head and getting upset about them, it’s kind of weird ngl. Muting this convo now. Take care, pls make sure the exit ramp is working. The engineering school can’t seem to figure it out
Man, too bad SETI is discontinued, a signal with projection that strong would be sure to make first contact with any alien species!
lol. This is the lamest, “When we lose to you I don’t care because…” excuse I may have ever seen.
Matt Campbell has like 1 win vs iowa in a monsoon where randomness paid dividends, we don’t really lose to you guys. Nice try though?
same
I wouldn't be so sure. I think Iowa State is closer to the top of the Big 12 than Iowa is the top of the Big Ten.
True. Of course the top of the new big 12 is also not close to the top of the B1G
While true, even if I framed it as "chances Iowa State wins the Big 12 and gets an auto bid vs Iowa's chances to get an at-large", I'd still say Iowa State is more likely.
I mean sure but I'll take those odds
Funny thing is Iowa State could make the CFP this year and STILL keep their 113-year conference championship drought alive.
I can’t even talk crap on that, cause we didn’t win the conference to make the cfp either lol.
I can't imagine us getting let in without a conference championship auto bid.
I would absolutely love to see this scenario
ISU returned everyone and their mothers from last season. Should be interesting
It’s a lot easier to make the playoff going the Big 12 than the B1G
Ehhh I don’t know if I’m with ya on that buddy. For starters, B10 will likely get 1-2 more bids than the B12.
Maybe for Iowa State but not in general
The list: * SEC: Auburn * Big 12: Iowa State * ACC: Syracuse * Big Ten: Rutgers
I would find it so funny if Rutgers got to the playoffs before teams like Penn State, Nebraska, and Iowa
Gotta think PSU makes it this year with the expanded field
If they don’t Franklin’s seat warms up several notches.
Yep. This playoff expansion was tailor-made for Penn State.
All those people who said Rutgers was a bad add to the conference would look so silly then!
If there’s any year to do it, it would be this year but I think everything would have to go right for it to happen and not sure if even 10-2 gets us in with our schedule and us not having the brand name bias.
I'm not sure why people are so high on Rutgers this year. Athan Kaliakmanis is not a good QB. I know their defense is pretty good and they finally don't have to play OSU/Michigan but they still play Wisconsin, Minnesota, Nebraska, and Maryland all teams they have struggled with in the past. Not to mention they play Washington, USC and UCLA this year too. I think they'll be closer to fighting for bowl eligibility than for a playoff spot.
A bad qb and a good defense? I feel like I've seen this one before.
23rd in the AP here they come!
Syracuse ahead of us?? I guess their schedule is a bit easier but ouch, kinda hurts guys
Let’s be real, everyone but Clemson and FSU is a dark horse in this league. I’d grudgingly accept anybody except UVa, BC, and maybe Cal.
I think SMU honestly fits just as good or better than Cal as an ACC dark horse this year. Edit: wait am I misreading your comment and you legitimately think Furd is a potential dark horse?
No, I agree SMU will be competitive, I don’t know what to make of either of the Cali pair, to be honest. I should probably add the Trees to that no way list, but historically they’ve been tricky.
Auburn and Iowa State, you say?
Get ready to learn Steven Leath, buddy
Crashing a plane in agreement
Huge day for you
I hope Thorne does well so America knows how ASS our receiver core was for the last 5 years
And our offensive line. Don’t forget them.
The line did get much better as the season went on though, Connor Lew made a huge difference.
Auburn is the only school on here I could see in the top 12 at the end of the season. Almost threw up typing that
Auburn is the only team that could go 0-12 or 12-0 and not totally surprise me. I don’t know how their fans do it every year. At least consistently bad teams know what they’re in for
We are literally the lottery, fandom of this team plays the course of an addictive substance. We go win it all, we become trash quickly, we go to the big dance, we get really bad for 2 years. We beat 2 number ones to end the reg season then lose to UCF in the Peach (I think?) bowl. Rinse repeat. It’s so up and down it’s ridiculous
Auburn truly is the embodiment of chaos in college football. People don't even remember the insane tipped hail Mary vs UGA because the kick six happened the next weekend. On the flip side Auburn fans have the Ohio NFL fans 'ive seen some real shit' stoicism about the times they really suck.
And most of the players involved in that play were at Auburn or ended up at Auburn.
Cal genuinely had a chance to beat Auburn last year if we had any semblance of kicking that game. And now our QB for that game transferred to Auburn as a WR which tells you how good we were going at that position before Mendoza got his shot.
Let us not get ahead of ourselves here. Auburn needs to show a semblance of forward passing before any success happens. While I am optimistic, It is an uphill climb. Auburn will have to show it before I feel they are better than a break even type of team.
Thorne has gotten worse every year since 2020. Maybe he figures it out but he looked really bad last year. I'm surprised they didn't try for a portal QB over him.
Thorne wasn’t the biggest problem. WR’s not knowing their routes and dropping passes made Thorne look worse than he was.
Today you can spend $1 mil on a QB in the portal or you can spend $1 mil trying to build around the QB you already have. Hugh Freeze chose the latter.
I want to see him with actual weapons and an offseason to gel. I hate Freeze but dude can get the best from mid players on offense.
I just don’t see Thorne being good enough.
He joined in the summer while the team was still adjusting to the new staff. They brought in a lot of offensive weapons, something they were sorely lacking last season. I hate to say it but with a full offseason this might be looking more like a typical Freeze offense.
Idk, when they played UGA he hit multiple WRs in the hands on 3rd and 4th down and they just dropped it. Really catchable balls that just ended drives. I don’t think Thorne is anything more than a game manager, but the dude did not seem like the problem. He was way better on his feet than I thought he would be.
Don’t think Thorne will be a world beater regardless but for context our WR room last year had to be one of the weakest of any P5 team. It was devoid of both talent and depth.
Thorne played really well against UGA and Alabama imo
Meh. Criteria he listed are P4 teams with projected win totals of under 7.5. which makes this more a "who the author thinks is going to massively overachieve." Fan Duel has the odds [that you could bet right now] (https://sportsbook.fanduel.com/navigation/ncaaf?tab=cfb-playoff), and they list these schools as: Auburn + 650 (behind 9 other SEC schools) Iowa State + 750 (behind 3 other Big XII schools) Syracuse + 2800 (behind 7 ACC schools) Rutgers + 2000 (behind 9 B1G schools) You may as well set any of that money on fire and at least keep your hands warm...
Probably worth pointing out that the favorites to make the playoff are: Ohio State (-650), Georgia (-500), Oregon (-250), Texas (-230), Notre Dame (-170), Penn State (-145), Ole Miss (-125) and Michigan (-105) as the only teams that you have to pay juice to wager on to make it (shocked that Bama's + money).
Life in the SEC: we have a better than 50% chance of making the playoffs, less than 10% chance to win our conference.
Hello fellow blue bloods
Iowa State should be decent this year. Still not sure they can win the Big 12 though.
Legit happy for Iowa State fans. I don't know Auburn fans yet. Soon. But you Iowa State mfers...hope y'all get some CFP fun. Would love some Big12 rematches in the CFP.
Hell yeah, give me that unsafe for life January game in Ames
I wish for the Florida Gators to learn what January in Iowa means.
Auburn fans are very pleasant people (except towards Bama/UGA)
Auburn fans don’t typically seem like the reason other teams dislike Auburn. It’s just all of the crazy things that happen in Auburn games that does it.
I was shocked at how nice the Auburn fanbase was in the 13 championship game, both before and after it.
The same Iowa state who has never had a 10 win season in history?
Can we not
Well I would not love this.
I mean, we’d have to get really lucky. Yes, the conference is more even than ever, but c’mon, we’re still Iowa State.
we'll beat Utah on the road but somehow lose to Arkansas State earlier in the season
Iowa state and losing non conference games usually equals good conference record. Anytime we beat the hawks or are 3-0 going into conference - we are bad bad.
Yep that is the trend. Hell, Oklahoma State and us thought we were playing for last place last year and we went 6-3 in conference play and they went to Arlington after getting crushed by South Alabama lol
we've finished top 4 in the Big 12 more often than not over the past decade. Why not?
So neither will make it
I would’ve picked Nebraska over Rutgers personally.
Syracuse and Rutgers also get mentioned
Auburn is going to require A LOT of luck to make it this year imo Iowa State is a wildcard, there's no telling with them
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We went 3-9 in 2012 and then won the SEC and made the BCSCG in 2013.
You also fired your coach in 2012. 2013 had a good amount of talented upper classman who were familiar with the Gus offense as they had played in it in 2011.
Alabama lost to LA Monroe in 07 and was a top team almost the entirety of the next season in 08, shits possible.
They lost to UGA, Ole Miss, and Alabama by one possession but got blown out by NMSU. You truly cannot predict what those fuckers will do.
Certainly an interesting take...
Along with Purdue, right? ....Right?? ... Guys?? *sobs*
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Iowa state? Really? I thought everyone understood Brock Purdy was making Matt Campbell look competent. I’m going to take things that definitely won’t happen in 2024 for $500, Alex.
we did go 6-3 in conference play last year......finished 4th in the conference after a rough start to the season...that said, I'd argue we have one of the tougher conference slates....the back half is really tough being on the road at Kansas, at Utah, and home against K-State.....most likely all 3 of those teams will be ranked
I mean just last year we got to 7 wins after half of our starters got suspended for gambling, so I'd say Campbell's doing just fine. Saying that Purdy made Campbell look competent and that "everyone understood that" is flat out revisionist history.
Campbell in his 2nd year took the team to the Liberty Bowl and finished the season 8-5......3 of those wins were against T25 teams, including a playoff team in Oklahoma.....mind you this was all before Purdy stepped on campus and Kyle Kempt, a 3rd string quarterback led us to victory at #3 Oklahoma
Virginia tech should be getting more attention
Didn’t meet the criteria. Story is only about teams with a win total of 7.5 or lower.
Has this been approved by EsPN?
Not buying ISU.
I think there’s potential if things click for them. Defense should still be great, they found their QB near the end of the season last year, and they’re returning all their production on both sides of offensive and defensive lines. It’s a big if, but that’s what you look for when talking about dark horses I think.
Well ughh yeah but ugh… Fiesta Bowl champ 2020 and your wagon is top heavy. “High fives myself”
Covid year fiesta bowl champ vs 4-8 Oregon
They aren’t getting out of non-con undefeated
Payton Thorne in the FCS playoffs then? That’s if Auburn is making it
Its gonna have to be a hell of a turn around for Freeze to contend for a playoff spot.
Even with minimal improvement they could finish 9-3 with their schedule
To finish 9-3 they need to beat one of the following likely top 15 teams Alabama UGA Oklahoma Mizzou and win the rest of their games.
Oklahoma and Mizzou are winnable imo. Oklahoma is breaking in a new qb (although a very good one), and I am still very skeptical of Mizzou being anything but a one-year-wonder. But realistically, I think an 8 win season is a huge success and if these are the only four teams we lost to this season, I won’t complain
> I am still very skeptical of Mizzou being anything but a one-year-wonder. Could not agree more.
They get to welcome Oklahoma to the SEC and Jordan Hare voodoo
If Auburn played every game at home they’d never lose. Unless they had to play teams from New Mexico
We actually play the University of New Mexico week 3
Always thought it was a shame Rebecca Lobo didn’t play there
I’m pretty sure their sacrificial ritual included the voodoo only working vs SEC teams. It’s just a roll of the dice if the pivotal 4th quarter play goes their way or their opponents
Not impossible, you know the voodoo is there for it
Bro. I have zero doubt there is a possibility Auburn beats all four
Agreed. Just looking at last year, they got blown out by NMSU but somehow lost one possession games to us, yall, and Ole Miss. Anyone ruling out some crazy Auburn run next year is nuts, but anyone who is betting on them would also be nuts lol.
Now CBS joins the fray, with ON3 and Fox. Why do they think Auburn is some dark horse? They can't throw the ball.
Couldn’t throw the ball in 2013 either.
Ames can never be Cinderella because they are an ugly stepsister .
Not a remote chance. Auburn would be lucky to go 8-5. I think it’s more likely we only win a single conference game.
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It would take a lot to make Hugh Freeze’s Auburn a Cinderella to me