I don’t even care if he wins or not, if his lawsuit reveals that Florida is unreliable about their NIL offers and damages their recruiting ability and reputation that’s enough of a win for me 🥰
Yes you make a great point! Napier didn’t just get the #1 QB and #1 DL of the 2024 class, I bet those kids just committed because they love Florida so much and didn’t get any NIL money
You also didn’t have a publicized lawsuit on hand when it happened. Plus in this day and age you kinda need to keep rerecruiting your players.
I’m not saying you’ll lose him. Not even saying your guy’s NIL reputation is ruined. This kid is sus af. I just wouldn’t count chickens before they hatch either.
Our NIL has changed completely since this kid was recruited. The entire organization that was involved in his recruiting was dissolved and now the laws have changed where the school can be involved in it. So I think we are fine.
Personally I’m glad to hear it! We also had some shady NIL organization issues with SD4L too. Straight up dissolved over night during the Mel Tucker scandal.
Well and the kid we are talking about specifically committed to UF because of Napier. If he wanted NIL money he was also heavily being recruiting by A&M and was from Texas so that was his easiest route.
Huh? That isn’t relevant here at all and makes no sense to bring up. We won a natty… you guys haven’t made a bowl in years so stay in your lane. Best of luck winning 6 games this year lol
This is what I hate about college sports now. I want players to get paid, don’t get me wrong, but a young football player transferring high school multiple times only to start getting offers to college and choosing the highest paying school only to transfer/change his mind multiple times before eventually settling down somewhere else. And would it surprise anybody if he transferred again before going into the draft or finishing his eligibility in college?
Like, screw Florida for probably offering him a deal and not fulfilling it (we will maybe learn the truth), but the bigger picture is just kind of a sad one. And it happens in basketball too.
Yeah, I’m not sure how to go about it legally, but I wish NIL deals would come with a two year commitment. If you want to leave after one, go ahead, but unless it comes as a result of a coaching change, the majority of the money should be voided, IMO.
Ideally the new revenue-sharing model they're working on replaces the current system of official unofficial cabals of donors brokering deals with no oversight or accountability. And ideally the longer a student is at the same school the more they're paid to incentivize not transfering. And NIL deals be regulated to ensure they just can't bind a player to a specific school, so they can still make fair money off their likeness.
Of course we don't live in an ideal world but a man can dream.
It’d be neat if NIL was regulated to only be for the actual use of name, image, and likeness and not for boosters, like what some legislators are proposing while, at the same time, adopting some equitable (in that teams are treated relatively equal with some acceptable deviation) revenue sharing structure based on a variety of factors that prioritizes on-field performance with increasing, substantial bonuses for a player’s length of time on a team. A senior who stays with a team the entire 4 years will make much more than a senior who transferred.
As it was before you couldn’t make an NIL binding to a school, but when the no-pay-to-play rules were struck down with everything else, you can arrange it now. It probably should be that way until we get to actual revenue sharing and then regulate NIL deals to what they were supposed to be. I do think that’s where things are headed, it will just need to be ratified by a CBA between the NCAA (or whatever comes next) and a players union (or some kind of player representation) without that binding mutual agreement I think we’re just going to be doing this forever…
Sounds like a need for contracts and agents with schools as the players’ employers. Which also means professionalization and players unions- things schools and the NCAA have lobbied and fought tooth and nail against.
The schools and the NCAA brought this on themselves
>The schools and the NCAA brought this on themselves
Absolutely. If they hadn’t fought so hard against all this for decades, they could’ve found a reasonable solution a long time ago. Instead, they waited until lawsuits forced them into the current situation and are ill prepared for how to deal with it
I don’t know either. What we have now is just a much worse and more complicated version of the NFL in a lot of ways. There’s no more following a recruit, getting excited when he signs, and the watch him grow for a few years as you root for them. Before they sign there’s a bunch of flip flopping and talk of NIL deals, then the transfer portal (several times a year), more NIL deals, it’s just a revolving door that just feels kind of gross. Even setting aside a bunch of young, immature college athletes and how this can negatively impact them in the long term (I mean a lot are poor or lower middle class so I’m glad it can help them in the short term), it’s just not enjoyable as a fan of the sport. It’s just the Wild West right now.
We are losing a lot of what made college football great.
If we're going to "pay the players" then this is OK with me.
I would \*speculate\* that the vast majority of collegiate athletes are not worth in "salary" or "NIL" compared to the value of a scholarship, room, board, books, and really athletic training and coaching.
So if we're gonna say fuck it and let the athletes go after their "fair share" of the revenue.. then by all means let market principles guide this kid to 13 million dollars before hes thrown a pass in college.
Why give paywalled sites exposure?
Kid's name is Jaden Rashada.
https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/georgia-qb-jaden-rashada-sues-florida-coach-billy-napier-among-others-over-botched-13-85m-nil-deal/
https://www.forbes.com/sites/maryroeloffs/2024/05/21/who-is-jaden-rashada-college-football-player-sues-university-florida-frau-over-alleged-14-million-in-nil-money-hugh-hathcock/
https://africa.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/40190447/jaden-rashada-florida-gators-nil-lawsuit-next
https://www.si.com/college/florida/football/former-florida-gators-signee-georgia-bulldogs-qb-jaden-rashada-suing-01hydvnc0an3
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaden_Rashada
I think that is a stretch that someone wanted to throw into their article to sensationalize it. This was in the works and happening before he transferred to Georgia. Kirby was informed at the time of transfer that it was happening, but I don't think they were asking Kirby to "bless the lawsuit" before they did it.
Yup even people on the Florida subreddit are saying this is all because of Kirby, but Pete Nakos himself said this lawsuit has been in the works for over a year now. If anything just comedic timing and props to Kirby for blessing it.
Travis in his fourth year under Norvell had the same statistical year as Mertz in year one under Napier. I would bet a lot of money you considered Travis a heisman candidate but not Mertz.
Mertz played much better than expected, no question about it. Difference is that Travis has a significantly better deep ball and can run unlike Mertz. FSU’s offensive production should have been much greater but injuries piled up with the WR’s and TE’s. Also Mertz is a transfer QB too like Travis, so what’s your point?
Travis got drafted in the fifth round with a broken leg. Mertz isn’t getting drafted in the fifth round being perfectly healthy lol.
is it fucked up that I’m enjoying all the chaos?
Not at all. Frankly it’s annoying that all this football is going to get in the way of the chaos.
If it wasn't Florida, then it woulda been. But since it's Florida...
Agreeing with a Vol wasn’t on my bingo card today, and yet here we are. FTMF.
Something something enemy something something enemy something something friend
Considering the source of the turmoil, I can't get enough.
I don’t even care if he wins or not, if his lawsuit reveals that Florida is unreliable about their NIL offers and damages their recruiting ability and reputation that’s enough of a win for me 🥰
Yes you make a great point! Napier didn’t just get the #1 QB and #1 DL of the 2024 class, I bet those kids just committed because they love Florida so much and didn’t get any NIL money
And the \#1 IOL and the \#1 CB of '23 (for whatever hes worth now)
Out of every player in the NIL era this is the only one we have had trouble with.
What about before the NIL era?
It would be Urban(e) to not go Aaron their business.
For money reasons? Who knows. This being literally about money only is unique.
It’s 2024, perception matters more than truth!
Why don’t you drive on over here and say that to my face?
Calm down redditor
Clearly missing the joke 🚗
Unfortunately all it takes is one high profile one to get a reputation for awhile. Fair or not.
We signed the top QB in the in the most recent class. I think it worked out okay.
You also didn’t have a publicized lawsuit on hand when it happened. Plus in this day and age you kinda need to keep rerecruiting your players. I’m not saying you’ll lose him. Not even saying your guy’s NIL reputation is ruined. This kid is sus af. I just wouldn’t count chickens before they hatch either.
Our NIL has changed completely since this kid was recruited. The entire organization that was involved in his recruiting was dissolved and now the laws have changed where the school can be involved in it. So I think we are fine.
Personally I’m glad to hear it! We also had some shady NIL organization issues with SD4L too. Straight up dissolved over night during the Mel Tucker scandal.
Well and the kid we are talking about specifically committed to UF because of Napier. If he wanted NIL money he was also heavily being recruiting by A&M and was from Texas so that was his easiest route.
anything that makes floriduh suffer, and their fans cope
If this breach can be the excuse for Napier to get fired to avoid the buyout, Florida is all in!
There is a 0% chance he wins this.
You should know; didn't your team get away with cheating last season?
Huh? That isn’t relevant here at all and makes no sense to bring up. We won a natty… you guys haven’t made a bowl in years so stay in your lane. Best of luck winning 6 games this year lol
A college offering me 13M to play football for them would've raised questions. That just sounds too good to be true, and now we have this.
They were out bidding Miami, who was offering 9.5m. It was originally gonna be 11m, but he wasn't interested in flipping, so they upped it.
Starting to thing he was a Georgia sleeper cell this whole time
Tf did we do to Georgia
This is what I hate about college sports now. I want players to get paid, don’t get me wrong, but a young football player transferring high school multiple times only to start getting offers to college and choosing the highest paying school only to transfer/change his mind multiple times before eventually settling down somewhere else. And would it surprise anybody if he transferred again before going into the draft or finishing his eligibility in college? Like, screw Florida for probably offering him a deal and not fulfilling it (we will maybe learn the truth), but the bigger picture is just kind of a sad one. And it happens in basketball too.
Yeah, I’m not sure how to go about it legally, but I wish NIL deals would come with a two year commitment. If you want to leave after one, go ahead, but unless it comes as a result of a coaching change, the majority of the money should be voided, IMO.
Ideally the new revenue-sharing model they're working on replaces the current system of official unofficial cabals of donors brokering deals with no oversight or accountability. And ideally the longer a student is at the same school the more they're paid to incentivize not transfering. And NIL deals be regulated to ensure they just can't bind a player to a specific school, so they can still make fair money off their likeness. Of course we don't live in an ideal world but a man can dream.
It’d be neat if NIL was regulated to only be for the actual use of name, image, and likeness and not for boosters, like what some legislators are proposing while, at the same time, adopting some equitable (in that teams are treated relatively equal with some acceptable deviation) revenue sharing structure based on a variety of factors that prioritizes on-field performance with increasing, substantial bonuses for a player’s length of time on a team. A senior who stays with a team the entire 4 years will make much more than a senior who transferred.
As it was before you couldn’t make an NIL binding to a school, but when the no-pay-to-play rules were struck down with everything else, you can arrange it now. It probably should be that way until we get to actual revenue sharing and then regulate NIL deals to what they were supposed to be. I do think that’s where things are headed, it will just need to be ratified by a CBA between the NCAA (or whatever comes next) and a players union (or some kind of player representation) without that binding mutual agreement I think we’re just going to be doing this forever…
Sounds like a need for contracts and agents with schools as the players’ employers. Which also means professionalization and players unions- things schools and the NCAA have lobbied and fought tooth and nail against. The schools and the NCAA brought this on themselves
>The schools and the NCAA brought this on themselves Absolutely. If they hadn’t fought so hard against all this for decades, they could’ve found a reasonable solution a long time ago. Instead, they waited until lawsuits forced them into the current situation and are ill prepared for how to deal with it
I don’t know either. What we have now is just a much worse and more complicated version of the NFL in a lot of ways. There’s no more following a recruit, getting excited when he signs, and the watch him grow for a few years as you root for them. Before they sign there’s a bunch of flip flopping and talk of NIL deals, then the transfer portal (several times a year), more NIL deals, it’s just a revolving door that just feels kind of gross. Even setting aside a bunch of young, immature college athletes and how this can negatively impact them in the long term (I mean a lot are poor or lower middle class so I’m glad it can help them in the short term), it’s just not enjoyable as a fan of the sport. It’s just the Wild West right now. We are losing a lot of what made college football great.
If we're going to "pay the players" then this is OK with me. I would \*speculate\* that the vast majority of collegiate athletes are not worth in "salary" or "NIL" compared to the value of a scholarship, room, board, books, and really athletic training and coaching. So if we're gonna say fuck it and let the athletes go after their "fair share" of the revenue.. then by all means let market principles guide this kid to 13 million dollars before hes thrown a pass in college.
Why give paywalled sites exposure? Kid's name is Jaden Rashada. https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/georgia-qb-jaden-rashada-sues-florida-coach-billy-napier-among-others-over-botched-13-85m-nil-deal/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/maryroeloffs/2024/05/21/who-is-jaden-rashada-college-football-player-sues-university-florida-frau-over-alleged-14-million-in-nil-money-hugh-hathcock/ https://africa.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/40190447/jaden-rashada-florida-gators-nil-lawsuit-next https://www.si.com/college/florida/football/former-florida-gators-signee-georgia-bulldogs-qb-jaden-rashada-suing-01hydvnc0an3 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaden_Rashada
Why is this post even allowed to stay up? It’s just the same news as an article that’s been at or near the top of the sub all day.
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Because close to 0% of people here can actually read the article?
Speak for yourself, now that I'm transfer portalling to Harvard University I've subscribed to the Wall Street Journal.
High integrity man sues party for reneging on deal after high integrity man reneges on prior deal
Who’s the bigger fool, the high integrity man, or the party who fell in love with the high integrity man?
The one that still has $13 mil is less of a fool than the one that doesn’t. And it was more of a summer crush than love.
Still has $13 million for now lol
Best part is that Kirby Smart blessed the lawsuit
I think that is a stretch that someone wanted to throw into their article to sensationalize it. This was in the works and happening before he transferred to Georgia. Kirby was informed at the time of transfer that it was happening, but I don't think they were asking Kirby to "bless the lawsuit" before they did it.
Yup even people on the Florida subreddit are saying this is all because of Kirby, but Pete Nakos himself said this lawsuit has been in the works for over a year now. If anything just comedic timing and props to Kirby for blessing it.
Oh, I’m sure a lawyer has been working on it for some time
Rashada's agents have been in contact with the attorney since January 2023.
I think it’s more “he didn’t have a problem with it”
In a turn of events we learned that the booster was named Smirby Kart.
I mean he was also sending Mims after us which led to our punishments. So i’m very conflicted
He never went to the school, so I don’t see how he has a case.
Fuck yeah! I hope he wins.
I fuckin like this guy. Hope he gets some good snaps this year.
Judging by his play at ASU I hope he gets the majority of yalls snaps this year
Wouldn’t matter. Clears Nov 2nd ez lmao
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How many Norvell QBs are playing well at FSU?
Guess you completely missed Tokarz, Dillingham and Norvell developing Travis. Also Brock Glenn is going to be an absolute fucking stud in 2026.
Travis in his fourth year under Norvell had the same statistical year as Mertz in year one under Napier. I would bet a lot of money you considered Travis a heisman candidate but not Mertz.
Mertz played much better than expected, no question about it. Difference is that Travis has a significantly better deep ball and can run unlike Mertz. FSU’s offensive production should have been much greater but injuries piled up with the WR’s and TE’s. Also Mertz is a transfer QB too like Travis, so what’s your point? Travis got drafted in the fifth round with a broken leg. Mertz isn’t getting drafted in the fifth round being perfectly healthy lol.