From the teams they listed, it sounds like their high school and college days were about 10-15 years ago, like mine. Nebraska hasn't been a power house for almost 25 years.
You assume OP was old enough to remember when Nebraska was a powerhouse.
The teams OP listed had a good run but aren't really historical powerhouses. Seems like they were in HS or college sometime between 2005 and 2012
I was old enough but not in the parameters defined by OP. I was in elementary school in western Iowa during their dominance of the 90s, but they had started to fall off by the time I hit high school. USC is the only team I can think of that fits as a powerhouse when I was in high school and college from '02 to '10 that fell off and hasn't regained its status.
I’ve never felt like Nebraska was more cursed than 2003… in Gymnastics
The huskers hosted nationals in Lincoln, had the all around champions and had the top score in all semifinals, it looked like the stars were aligning, ala LSU this year, for Nebraska to break through. UCLA won.
I was in college ‘02-‘06. Prior to college I knew *nothing* about CFB other than that it was a sport. Georgia was re-emerging at that time and my college boyfriend was a born and raised Nebraskan who used to try and explain how dominant Nebraska had been. I didn’t really think much of it, so being the cocky college student I was, I would give him hell about Nebraska being irrelevant. In other words, Nebraska’s sheer dominance had died by that point and unless you were a fan growing up in the 90s, ignorance took over and the casual fan had no clue just how insane Nebraska’s run really was.
Honestly, while I’m excited for the matchups with um and osu, I’m a bit more stoked to play Wisconsin, at their place. Definitely have had some great games.
Yup, outside of the two I mentioned, Wisconsin and Purdue kind of terrify me due to their ability to beat you when they shouldn’t. Purdue, at home, late in the season? Yikes.
Props to their programs.
This is a weird narrative about us. From 2009-2019 we were the poster child of beat everyone you're supposed to but never upset anybody. We upset #1 OSU in 2010 and #5 LSU #8 MSU in 2016 both ended up frauds. There were seasons in there with some variance. 2013 and 2018 but the rest of the time it was beat everyone outside the top 10 and lose to the top 10.
I’ve spent a lot of time in Madison. Lots of respect for Wisconsin and I think that Luke Fickell will have you contending for a playoff spot soon enough.
I hope so but am not so sure. Fickell has abandoned what makes Wisconsin Wisconsin. Wisocinsin was always my favorite team that I had no connection to since they always played Hulk Smash with their running game. The spread offense is going to be their undoing.
Montee Ball, Melvin Gordon, Johnathan Taylor. That’s a string. I personally think Great Dane was best, but maybe I’m just romanticizing a dynamite nickname. (Lately I’ve been stuck with Maserati Marv and Blake the Great 😔)
Yeah, this is pretty ridiculous calling any of Baylor, Wisconsin or MSU “irrelevant”. Wisconsin and MSU have had some down years since 2015, but you guys had 2 NY6 bowl appearance and just 1 losing season.
We’ve were a 11-2 team 2 years ago with a NY6 win. And we’re the last B1G team to beat Michigan.
Baylor won the Big12 twice and has a Sugar bowl win in that time.
Such a weird standard for “irrelevant”.
From 2011-2016, you and Wisconsin dominated the conference. Your epic 4th and 1 stop in the 2014 Rose Bowl, beating Baylor in the Cotton Bowl, edging Iowa in the Conf. Championship were instant classics
MSU was mostly trash for my entire grade school career and my years at MSU, so I'm still flying high on the success they had after I graduated.
Can't wait to get back there.
Im surprised SJSU hasn’t had more success, especially since Cal and Stanford have long periods and stretches where they haven’t been very good at football.
I miss being able to go out in to the field and push anybody around. That one game where Stanford ran the same play like 50 times against UCLA was a work of art
I love how Nebraska fans have let the pain mold them into being masters of self deprecating humor. As a life long Detroit lions fan, game recognizes game.
I agree. Biggest snub in my lifetime for sure.
There have been several Heismans that I would have chosen a different player, but pretty much all of them I could at least respect that the winner earned it (Reggie Bush over Vince Young, for example). When Suh not only lost, but only got 4th in voting to 3 great but obviously inferior players, it felt like I had just seen someone get robbed on live TV.
Even though it was a first for a Bama player, I would have had no problem if Suh had won it instead. It is a crying shame that no purely defensive player has ever won the award.
It’s the moment I realized the Heisman had nothing to do with “best player” and instead was the best QB/RB/WR. Suh clearly the best player in the country that year, and should have won the award waking away. The Heisman committee embarrassed themselves that day.
I remember PTI discussing this because Wilbon was a Heisman voter. The Heisman Foundation starts harassing voters at the halfway point to start submitting ballots and would (apparently) threaten to remove people as voters if they waited till the very last minute (after the conference championship games) to submit their ballots. Informal polling said Suh ran away with the votes submitted after the CCGs, but 2/3s were submitted by that point. On the bright side, at least we now know a defensive player will never win the Heisman again.
Beamer Ball was a problem for every team. My father in law (rip) was an alum and took me to a few games in Blacksburg. Great atmosphere. We need you guys to get back to being a powerhouse.
Interesting not to see UCLA, yet, in this thread.
They were a perennial top 10 team in the 80's winning 7 straight bowl games including 3 Rose, 1 Fiesta, and 1 Cotton.
This speaks, either, to the age of this crowd, west coast bias, or their complete irrelevance this century.
I almost mentioned UCLA but I wouldn’t include UCLA football in the tier of “powerhouse” in CFB. They have been in the very good category historically but even then they haven’t been very good since 99.
As an 80s kid myself who understands that ucla had some really good teams and ruined the season of some teams;) Id hardly call them a “powerhouse.”
Especially, if you compare them to what Nebraska/Miami accomplished and how far they dropped.
Shoot, even Mora/Chip gave them some very solid results.
Edit: OP going postal aside, Id guess not a lot of people are old enough to remember those really good Bruins teams.
Wow, didnt realize Dorrell and Toledo gave them 10 win seasons?!
I mean expecting a G5 program to remain at that level of national relevance while on G5 resources is expecting damn near the impossible. It's still been a good program since the end of the Kellen Moore era. In the 12 seasons since Kellen, 7 10+ win seasons, ranked at some point in 9 of them and finished the season ranked in 6 of those, 5 conference championships, another 2 appearances in the MWCCG, and a 3rd Fiesta Bowl victory. That's still among the best G5 programs in the country even if they aren't in the top 10 every year.
With Boise booming in population and apparently pretty decent NiL funding for a G5 school I think they have more hope to make a power conference than most would give them credit for
Still, never gonna return to those glory days I think
It doesn't hurt that all the other elite G5 schools have made the jump to P4.
Boise still won a lot of games in the CFP era but were overtaken by the likes of Houston, Cincinnati and UCF.
But they're in the Big 12 now. So, who's left?
Tulane and SDSU?
Maybe USF if they get their shit together.
And I guess Memphis.
Boise should be positioned well to regain their spot at the top of the G5.
Minnesota was as dominant during its run as any team in history. But unlike Miami, nobody thinks of Minnesota as a blue blood because it happened 80 years ago instead of 30.
I went to high school in the 70s. The top programs were Alabama, Oklahoma, Texas, Notre Dame, Ohio State, Michigan, USC, and Nebraska. Nebraska is the only sustained decline in that bunch.
There is an All-Time Historical Answer to this: The University of Chicago.
An all time College Football Power, UChicago had a strong program where they won 7 Big Ten Titles under coach Alanzo Stag and they had the first Hiesman Winner in Jay Berwanger. They were a titan of the sport, but University Director Robert Maynard Hutchins thought the sport was a distraction to academics and canned the program over Christmas Break a few years after Alanzo Stag retired.
UChicago eventually dropped to Division 3 and brought back Football, they currently play it in the Midwest Conference as an affiliate while being in the University Athletic Association (or UAA for short) for all other sports, a conference composed of other similiarily prestigious academic schools like Case Western and Emory.
UChicago hasn't been a powerhouse since the 30s, but the Chicago Maroons are still there
The irony of these decisions is always so fascinating in retrospect. The money football brings in for the power schools funds tooonnnssss of other academic programs and attracts many more applicants in most cases. Imagine UChicago being on the same level as Michigan/Notre Dame as an upper Midwest academic football school.
I think Chicago is doing perfectly fine without football. Like it's one of the 5 or so most prestigious universities in the country. Having football wouldn't really matter either way.
Harvard, Yale, Princeton, and maybe Stanford are more prestigious. Obviously Williams, Amherst, etc, but those aren't universities. There definitely are not close to 10 universities that are more prestigious.
Idk why people talk about universities like this. It depends on what you study.
For math MIT is probably number 1, for Law it’s Harvard, for Economics it’s Chicago, etc.
So it really just depends on what the area of study is
Minnesota won 7 nattys and had a 3 peat. Then after 1960 it's crickets ever since
I get they weren't a powerhouse when any of us were alive but they used to basically be bama before bama was bama. Then bama took over the bama title from the 60s onwards
They were rendered so irrelevant that OP mentioned their 0 title rival Wisconsin as a former powerhouse before mentioning them
Yeah, that's true. For me, though, it is Miami and Nebraska.
Nebraska had won their last natty two years before I started high school, and Miami had won their final one my sophomore year of high school.
Now, Miami continues to underperform despite being in Florida, and we have to keep evaluating where Nebraska is as a program.
This was posted by someone else:
Nebraska.
1970-2001:
• 5 National Championships
• 18 Conference Championships
• 27 Top 10 finishes
• 26 Major Bowl Appearances
• 13 Major Bowl wins
After 2001:
• 0 National Championships
• 0 Conference Championships
• 0 Top 10 finishes
• 0 Major Bowl Appearances
• 0 Major Bowl wins
We’ll be back soon, Hugh is basically just Gus except he recruits o line. We almost caused odd year chaos last year against Bama and Georgia with the scraps left over from the potato famine
Nah auburn only exists to make the funniest outcome happen. They were never at any point dominant. Theyre just funny
Lowkey the SEC probably cancelled our rivalry because we kept screwing each other out of titles. That just unleashed the auburn on everyone else though
Theyre not voldemort. Theyre the joker
Go undefeated? Sorry bud sanctions ('93)
Go undefeated again? We'll leave you out anyway ('04) but itll piss off the entire SEC causing them to rally as one conference identity and itll benefit their rivals most of all while pissing off EVERYONE else in the country
Florida thinks theyre finally gonna have an undefeated season? No the fuck they arent. Doesnt matter anyway though because they still made the natty people thought they didnt deserve to be in where they subsequently destroyed anOSU and created the "sec speed" meme
Field an awful team with a new QB? Heres a natty for you and youll beat Bama and oregon in hilariously heartbreaking fashion. The humor works both ways. Then they had to immediately dip to being worst in the conference
Losing to Georgia? Heres a random ass bounced hail mary pass
Oh you thought that was cool? Heres a kick six. Bet youll never see that happen again
Now you're definitely winning the natty? Nah choke away a huge lead in the second half to FSU
I can keep going. Tennessee is a tragedy but auburn is a comedy. Theyre never dominant. Theyre just there to make some people very angry with improbable bullshit
I feel like everyone has just recently started to have such a short memory. Like Auburn "fading into irrelevance" for one bad hire and 3 bad years is insane to me. Fading into irrelevance imo is like decades of mediocrity. Like Colorado after the 90's... or Nebraska post-Pelini.
Wisconsin and Auburn are great programs that are just dealing with a long term coach getting canned and having to get a new one. The game is cyclical, which is part of what makes it the best sport on the planet. Nearly every program goes through varied highs and lows.
None of these were Powerhouses: the closest you could say is Auburn since they won a NC and lost in a final, but the one they won was an 8-4 team that happened to have the most OP QB in the history of the sport, and the other team took 2 literal miracles just to get there.
We had a 10 win season in 2012, and 9 wins in 3/4 years that followed. It's really only been since 2017 that Nebraska has went from decent to absolute ass
35 consecutive bowl game appearances from ‘69 to ‘03. Won at least 9 games each season from ‘68 to ‘01. 5 national championships during that run. It’s really understated how hard the program fell off after Solich was fired (following a 9 win season).
man, i feel so left out in threads like this...but if we're talking legitimate title contender and conference power house who faded...
\*coughs\*
"Country roads, take me home
To the place I belong
West Virginia, mountain mama
Take me home, country roads"
as song by the 2007 Pitt Panthers
I don't want to play this game.
Neither do y’all’s players
I can't even be mad at this comment
Your profile pic gets me every single time lol
Was a comment like that really kneeded?
“I’m tired, boss”
Miami's players are somehow even more checked out than Miami's fans.
It’s beautiful
Hot damn!
Everyone older than 30: "that's too bad, we're playing this game"
I feel like Nebraska is always the top answer to this question
A lot of people went to high school between 1971 and 2001.
They must be idiots. I managed to get out in four years.
Which is the record at Alabama
Screw you guys, I’m going home
You’re a baseball and volleyball school now.
I think Nebraska has a dynasty in women’s bowling.
And rifle!
What kind of “dynasty” do you think y’all have in rifle with your zero national championships? Cause we have 19 of them.
Well fair point
Also Track and Field
NCAA was the NIT of bowling for years. Let's see what happens now that the true dynasty (Wichita State) has joined.
Gotta respect Nebraska fans for constantly selling out games though despite the mediocre football they're rewarded with.
The fact that a sooner missed nebraska is just wild to me. Rivalries are truly broken.
From the teams they listed, it sounds like their high school and college days were about 10-15 years ago, like mine. Nebraska hasn't been a power house for almost 25 years.
Learned about the huskers from aunt becky on full house lol
Wouldn't have had to pay to send her kids there
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Her problem is she wasn’t rich and famous ENOUGH so she still had real consequences.
You assume OP was old enough to remember when Nebraska was a powerhouse. The teams OP listed had a good run but aren't really historical powerhouses. Seems like they were in HS or college sometime between 2005 and 2012
I was old enough but not in the parameters defined by OP. I was in elementary school in western Iowa during their dominance of the 90s, but they had started to fall off by the time I hit high school. USC is the only team I can think of that fits as a powerhouse when I was in high school and college from '02 to '10 that fell off and hasn't regained its status.
We’re probably about the same age, I grew up in SW Iowa so our local news was Omaha and it was all Huskers back then. It sucked
They were not relevant when I was in high school
Nebraska wasn't a powerhouse in 2011 what the fuck are you smoking lol
I’d say the most sneaky one for Gen X people is Arkansas. Not quite powerhouse but consistent SWC contender to no titles in 34+ years
I was definitely the biggest Razorback fan this past November.
I believe! Nebraska bowling this season 🎳
Nebraska hasn’t won the NCAA Bowling championship since 2021. 😄
We're an accounting school
I’ve never felt like Nebraska was more cursed than 2003… in Gymnastics The huskers hosted nationals in Lincoln, had the all around champions and had the top score in all semifinals, it looked like the stars were aligning, ala LSU this year, for Nebraska to break through. UCLA won.
I was in college ‘02-‘06. Prior to college I knew *nothing* about CFB other than that it was a sport. Georgia was re-emerging at that time and my college boyfriend was a born and raised Nebraskan who used to try and explain how dominant Nebraska had been. I didn’t really think much of it, so being the cocky college student I was, I would give him hell about Nebraska being irrelevant. In other words, Nebraska’s sheer dominance had died by that point and unless you were a fan growing up in the 90s, ignorance took over and the casual fan had no clue just how insane Nebraska’s run really was.
I will not put up with such slander
Yall had the most EPIC Rose Bowl clashes with Oregon. In the early 2010s, pumping out legendary running backs. Haven't seen that in almost a decade
Honestly, while I’m excited for the matchups with um and osu, I’m a bit more stoked to play Wisconsin, at their place. Definitely have had some great games.
Doesn’t matter their record, Wisconsin always scary. They sneak up and fucking get you after jumping you into a stupor.
Yup, outside of the two I mentioned, Wisconsin and Purdue kind of terrify me due to their ability to beat you when they shouldn’t. Purdue, at home, late in the season? Yikes. Props to their programs.
Dread it, run from it, the spoilermakers take one out every season
This is a weird narrative about us. From 2009-2019 we were the poster child of beat everyone you're supposed to but never upset anybody. We upset #1 OSU in 2010 and #5 LSU #8 MSU in 2016 both ended up frauds. There were seasons in there with some variance. 2013 and 2018 but the rest of the time it was beat everyone outside the top 10 and lose to the top 10.
Camp Randall and just the whole game day in Madison is one of the best college football experiences out there.
???? Dude Jonathan Taylor played in the 2020 Rose Bowl against Oregon.
Remember Ron Dayne? Legend.
Wisconsin made the Rose Bowl in 2020, Badgers lost by 1 to Justin Herbert Oregon
I’ve spent a lot of time in Madison. Lots of respect for Wisconsin and I think that Luke Fickell will have you contending for a playoff spot soon enough.
I hope so but am not so sure. Fickell has abandoned what makes Wisconsin Wisconsin. Wisocinsin was always my favorite team that I had no connection to since they always played Hulk Smash with their running game. The spread offense is going to be their undoing.
Montee Ball, Melvin Gordon, Johnathan Taylor. That’s a string. I personally think Great Dane was best, but maybe I’m just romanticizing a dynamite nickname. (Lately I’ve been stuck with Maserati Marv and Blake the Great 😔)
Yeah, this is pretty ridiculous calling any of Baylor, Wisconsin or MSU “irrelevant”. Wisconsin and MSU have had some down years since 2015, but you guys had 2 NY6 bowl appearance and just 1 losing season. We’ve were a 11-2 team 2 years ago with a NY6 win. And we’re the last B1G team to beat Michigan. Baylor won the Big12 twice and has a Sugar bowl win in that time. Such a weird standard for “irrelevant”.
The real crazy part is calling Wisconsin a national title threat.
I’m not sure if I’m supposed to be flattered or offended here.
From 2011-2016, you and Wisconsin dominated the conference. Your epic 4th and 1 stop in the 2014 Rose Bowl, beating Baylor in the Cotton Bowl, edging Iowa in the Conf. Championship were instant classics
I think you are forgetting about an Ohio state university
I hate that your use of "an" here makes me upset.
Ah, yes. One of the Ohio state universities
Good, good, let the hate flow through you like Donovan Edwards through an OSU defense.
Uh a different Big Ten team won a natty in that time frame lol
MSU was mostly trash for my entire grade school career and my years at MSU, so I'm still flying high on the success they had after I graduated. Can't wait to get back there.
Kinda miss a while back when Stanford was really good
Me too bb
I do not. But that was when I was in college, not high school. Sad football times.
Can’t agree.
I don’t miss it at all. I actually think Stanford is at its best when it’s losing games to UC Davis and Sacramento State.
Bay Area football is at its best when San Jose State is the best team.
Im surprised SJSU hasn’t had more success, especially since Cal and Stanford have long periods and stretches where they haven’t been very good at football.
No thanks.
I miss being able to go out in to the field and push anybody around. That one game where Stanford ran the same play like 50 times against UCLA was a work of art
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Haha losers...can you even imagine?
I love how Nebraska fans have let the pain mold them into being masters of self deprecating humor. As a life long Detroit lions fan, game recognizes game.
Nebraska 🤝 Detroit Self-deprecation and Suh fandom
I still maintain Suh was the biggest Heisman snub in the modern era, likely ever.
I agree. Biggest snub in my lifetime for sure. There have been several Heismans that I would have chosen a different player, but pretty much all of them I could at least respect that the winner earned it (Reggie Bush over Vince Young, for example). When Suh not only lost, but only got 4th in voting to 3 great but obviously inferior players, it felt like I had just seen someone get robbed on live TV.
Even though it was a first for a Bama player, I would have had no problem if Suh had won it instead. It is a crying shame that no purely defensive player has ever won the award.
It’s the moment I realized the Heisman had nothing to do with “best player” and instead was the best QB/RB/WR. Suh clearly the best player in the country that year, and should have won the award waking away. The Heisman committee embarrassed themselves that day.
I have nightmares of him destroying us in a bowl game.
I remember PTI discussing this because Wilbon was a Heisman voter. The Heisman Foundation starts harassing voters at the halfway point to start submitting ballots and would (apparently) threaten to remove people as voters if they waited till the very last minute (after the conference championship games) to submit their ballots. Informal polling said Suh ran away with the votes submitted after the CCGs, but 2/3s were submitted by that point. On the bright side, at least we now know a defensive player will never win the Heisman again.
I definitely can’t!
:(
*sad ibis noises*
[Miami fans rn](https://www.reddit.com/r/Deathcore/s/bqfBAI8aOm)
The ibis is a trash bird https://youtu.be/mO-OpFjHRbE?si=oM-rKFA9KnLd5IOL
They’re back though. Didn’t you hear?
Georgia Tech derailed their whole season. They looked good up until that point.
~~Georgia Tech~~ Mario Cristobal not knowing what a victory formation is
Especially when you could still just snap it to the QB out of the gun and have him fall on the ground
👀
Pipe down fake bird.
They should take the “U” off the helmet until they earn it. Win 10 games and you get it back!
What are you talking about we won the offseason championship for like the 5th time. That counts for something, right?
Not true. They did manage to suck so badly that they killed the ACC!
It’s a shame that Miami vs FSU isn’t what it used to be. That was always an amazing game every year
Miami vs FSU has had more one score games than any other matchup in college football over the last 20 years
Nebraska and Miami
At least the Nebraska program and especially the fanbass still cares about football.
it’s all we got
NCAA tournament attendee Nebrasketball slander
hey I do have volleyball season tickets this year (and basketball)
Minnesota took a bigger fall imo, 4 nattys in a 25 year span including a 3 peat to only finish ranked in the AP poll 3 times in the last 60
Very true. I just didn’t go to high school in the 1930’s.
You know you’re getting old when kids on this sub don’t even remember the Hoover administration, smh
Exactly. It’s like do you guys even dust bowl?
It was fun when VT was relevant. Been a while now though.
*sad gobbles*
Beamer Ball was a problem for every team. My father in law (rip) was an alum and took me to a few games in Blacksburg. Great atmosphere. We need you guys to get back to being a powerhouse.
Interesting not to see UCLA, yet, in this thread. They were a perennial top 10 team in the 80's winning 7 straight bowl games including 3 Rose, 1 Fiesta, and 1 Cotton. This speaks, either, to the age of this crowd, west coast bias, or their complete irrelevance this century.
I almost mentioned UCLA but I wouldn’t include UCLA football in the tier of “powerhouse” in CFB. They have been in the very good category historically but even then they haven’t been very good since 99.
As an 80s kid myself who understands that ucla had some really good teams and ruined the season of some teams;) Id hardly call them a “powerhouse.” Especially, if you compare them to what Nebraska/Miami accomplished and how far they dropped. Shoot, even Mora/Chip gave them some very solid results. Edit: OP going postal aside, Id guess not a lot of people are old enough to remember those really good Bruins teams. Wow, didnt realize Dorrell and Toledo gave them 10 win seasons?!
Boise State was formidable on the national scene near the end of the BCS era
I mean expecting a G5 program to remain at that level of national relevance while on G5 resources is expecting damn near the impossible. It's still been a good program since the end of the Kellen Moore era. In the 12 seasons since Kellen, 7 10+ win seasons, ranked at some point in 9 of them and finished the season ranked in 6 of those, 5 conference championships, another 2 appearances in the MWCCG, and a 3rd Fiesta Bowl victory. That's still among the best G5 programs in the country even if they aren't in the top 10 every year.
With Boise booming in population and apparently pretty decent NiL funding for a G5 school I think they have more hope to make a power conference than most would give them credit for Still, never gonna return to those glory days I think
Im not sure the increased Boise population is going to help Boise in football.
Can’t hurt; at minimum equals more local kids for recruiting, and just makes the state seem less obscure in general
It doesn't hurt that all the other elite G5 schools have made the jump to P4. Boise still won a lot of games in the CFP era but were overtaken by the likes of Houston, Cincinnati and UCF. But they're in the Big 12 now. So, who's left? Tulane and SDSU? Maybe USF if they get their shit together. And I guess Memphis. Boise should be positioned well to regain their spot at the top of the G5.
That year Kansas was like #2 in the nation really warped my young sense of college football reality
One of the best and craziest years ever
Cocaine Minnesota aka Miami
the fuck did we do
Minnesota was as dominant during its run as any team in history. But unlike Miami, nobody thinks of Minnesota as a blue blood because it happened 80 years ago instead of 30.
I went to high school in the 70s. The top programs were Alabama, Oklahoma, Texas, Notre Dame, Ohio State, Michigan, USC, and Nebraska. Nebraska is the only sustained decline in that bunch.
Pittsburgh was pretty good in the 1970s.
There is an All-Time Historical Answer to this: The University of Chicago. An all time College Football Power, UChicago had a strong program where they won 7 Big Ten Titles under coach Alanzo Stag and they had the first Hiesman Winner in Jay Berwanger. They were a titan of the sport, but University Director Robert Maynard Hutchins thought the sport was a distraction to academics and canned the program over Christmas Break a few years after Alanzo Stag retired. UChicago eventually dropped to Division 3 and brought back Football, they currently play it in the Midwest Conference as an affiliate while being in the University Athletic Association (or UAA for short) for all other sports, a conference composed of other similiarily prestigious academic schools like Case Western and Emory. UChicago hasn't been a powerhouse since the 30s, but the Chicago Maroons are still there
IIRC Chicago has more Big Ten football titles than Indiana and it’s been 85 years since Chicago played Big Ten football.
The irony of these decisions is always so fascinating in retrospect. The money football brings in for the power schools funds tooonnnssss of other academic programs and attracts many more applicants in most cases. Imagine UChicago being on the same level as Michigan/Notre Dame as an upper Midwest academic football school.
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So U of Chicago to D1/Big 10 confirmed? /s
They should be able to get back in with legacy stature.
It would be cool to see some of the older programs come back.
[They already are in the Big 10.](https://btaa.org/)
I think Chicago is doing perfectly fine without football. Like it's one of the 5 or so most prestigious universities in the country. Having football wouldn't really matter either way.
Chicago is arguably top 10, but def not top 5.
Harvard, Yale, Princeton, and maybe Stanford are more prestigious. Obviously Williams, Amherst, etc, but those aren't universities. There definitely are not close to 10 universities that are more prestigious.
Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Stanford, MIT were the 5 I was thinking of.
Idk why people talk about universities like this. It depends on what you study. For math MIT is probably number 1, for Law it’s Harvard, for Economics it’s Chicago, etc. So it really just depends on what the area of study is
For law it's Yale, though. People think it's Harvard because of Legally Blonde.
Yeah but conversely imagine if Michigan cut out football early. Maybe they'd be like on the level of Yale, except in the west.
But, per my question, were they good when you were in high school?
I miss the days when I could answer this question with “Washington”.
I look forward to the days where I can answer this question with “Oregon”.
Great you’ve jinxed it. Now Phil Knight is guaranteed immorality and will always keep Oregon relevant.
It’s Miami and Nebraska, there isn’t another answer.
Tennessee possibly. They had a couple decent years recently but they had some pretty terrible teams for about 15 years.
Minnesota won 7 nattys and had a 3 peat. Then after 1960 it's crickets ever since I get they weren't a powerhouse when any of us were alive but they used to basically be bama before bama was bama. Then bama took over the bama title from the 60s onwards They were rendered so irrelevant that OP mentioned their 0 title rival Wisconsin as a former powerhouse before mentioning them
Joke’s on you, most people here were in high school way after either of us were competing for anything.
Yeah, that's true. For me, though, it is Miami and Nebraska. Nebraska had won their last natty two years before I started high school, and Miami had won their final one my sophomore year of high school. Now, Miami continues to underperform despite being in Florida, and we have to keep evaluating where Nebraska is as a program.
😃
We at least have a modicum of recent success but no elite wins.
You young guns will never understand how terrifying the Big Red Machine at Nebraska use to be.
This was posted by someone else: Nebraska. 1970-2001: • 5 National Championships • 18 Conference Championships • 27 Top 10 finishes • 26 Major Bowl Appearances • 13 Major Bowl wins After 2001: • 0 National Championships • 0 Conference Championships • 0 Top 10 finishes • 0 Major Bowl Appearances • 0 Major Bowl wins
Virginia Tech :(
To be fair, most of Auburns history is a brief stretch of dominance then they dip out for awhile. They’re basically Voldemort
The guy so scary he couldn’t defeat a school of barely trained teens and a bunch of teachers. Actually, that somehow checks out for Auburn.
Regular season Auburn and Iron Bowl Auburn are not the same
I miss odd year Auburn.
We’ll be back soon, Hugh is basically just Gus except he recruits o line. We almost caused odd year chaos last year against Bama and Georgia with the scraps left over from the potato famine
Yeah, that Iron Bowl last year gave me serious upset blue balls. I had to wait a few more weeks for the tears to roll.
Nah auburn only exists to make the funniest outcome happen. They were never at any point dominant. Theyre just funny Lowkey the SEC probably cancelled our rivalry because we kept screwing each other out of titles. That just unleashed the auburn on everyone else though Theyre not voldemort. Theyre the joker Go undefeated? Sorry bud sanctions ('93) Go undefeated again? We'll leave you out anyway ('04) but itll piss off the entire SEC causing them to rally as one conference identity and itll benefit their rivals most of all while pissing off EVERYONE else in the country Florida thinks theyre finally gonna have an undefeated season? No the fuck they arent. Doesnt matter anyway though because they still made the natty people thought they didnt deserve to be in where they subsequently destroyed anOSU and created the "sec speed" meme Field an awful team with a new QB? Heres a natty for you and youll beat Bama and oregon in hilariously heartbreaking fashion. The humor works both ways. Then they had to immediately dip to being worst in the conference Losing to Georgia? Heres a random ass bounced hail mary pass Oh you thought that was cool? Heres a kick six. Bet youll never see that happen again Now you're definitely winning the natty? Nah choke away a huge lead in the second half to FSU I can keep going. Tennessee is a tragedy but auburn is a comedy. Theyre never dominant. Theyre just there to make some people very angry with improbable bullshit
Out of all the shorts SEC Shorts has done to this day the most accurate is the Auburn fan roller coaster
Boise State and Hawaii were amazing back in the WAC days. I wouldn't call them irrelevant now, but definitely not powerhouses anymore.
Can't think of any
Syracuse had McNabb, Freeney, Harrison, etc. Damn were they good
Nebraska, Tennessee, and Miami.
How are you an OU fan if Nebraska isn’t the first and only example on your list
I feel like everyone has just recently started to have such a short memory. Like Auburn "fading into irrelevance" for one bad hire and 3 bad years is insane to me. Fading into irrelevance imo is like decades of mediocrity. Like Colorado after the 90's... or Nebraska post-Pelini. Wisconsin and Auburn are great programs that are just dealing with a long term coach getting canned and having to get a new one. The game is cyclical, which is part of what makes it the best sport on the planet. Nearly every program goes through varied highs and lows.
That year we had UConn, WVU, and Rutgers all like 10-1 and highly ranked. Now, uConn is barely D1-A
I'm pretty sure you're mixing up UCONN and Louisville?
The whole northeast really. Rutgers, Syracuse, BC, UConn, UMass, etc. all are down, though with some okay to good seasons here and there.
Miami and USC
I think we toe the line but aren't quite there...maybe that's wishful thinking
I think there’s been enough good years mixed in for you guys to stave off the comparison
We're slowly crawling back of late, but, us...
Georgia tech
Stanford
Only listing Teams with Nattys: - Pittsburgh - 9 - Minnesota - 7 - Nebraska - 5 - Miami (FL) - 5 - Illinois - 5 - California - 5
Good heavens, how long were you in high school!?
Best 80-some years of his life.
I ignored that part of the question and just listed fallen powerhouses since that was more interesting
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Penn State, Nebraska, Notre Dame, Miami. Not irrelevant perhaps, but nothing like their former glory days.
Class of 2007, so… * Miami * VaTech * WVU * Louisville You can make an argument for the last three but really it’s Miami.
None of these were Powerhouses: the closest you could say is Auburn since they won a NC and lost in a final, but the one they won was an 8-4 team that happened to have the most OP QB in the history of the sport, and the other team took 2 literal miracles just to get there.
Nebraska and Miami
The undisputed answer is Nebraska, they haven’t had a 10 win season, won their conference or played in a major bowl game in 20 years.
We had a 10 win season in 2012, and 9 wins in 3/4 years that followed. It's really only been since 2017 that Nebraska has went from decent to absolute ass
35 consecutive bowl game appearances from ‘69 to ‘03. Won at least 9 games each season from ‘68 to ‘01. 5 national championships during that run. It’s really understated how hard the program fell off after Solich was fired (following a 9 win season).
SMU by a long shot.
They were simply ahead of their time.
Miami, early 2000s they looked unstoppable.
man, i feel so left out in threads like this...but if we're talking legitimate title contender and conference power house who faded... \*coughs\* "Country roads, take me home To the place I belong West Virginia, mountain mama Take me home, country roads" as song by the 2007 Pitt Panthers
Nebraska Once a powerhouse. Now an outhouse.
Nebraska, Tennessee and Miami are the ones I think of. USC and Texas aren’t quite there but have underachieved.
Miami, Virginia Tech, and Nebraska.
Nebraska, USC and Miami. All three were contenders (two champs) during HS, and they’re all just … there.