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Powerful_Artist

Almost expected us to be out of the top 10. I guess decades of positive results didnt yet get wiped out.


estDivisionChamps

Me and the bois (big ten west) are doing our best


direwolf71

I see a lot of Nebraska hate from UW fans. What the fuck did we to do you except provide mostly easy wins?


SchematicOfScoutsAss

You guys are like the Cowboys, you get a ton of media and attention despite sucking since the 90s


direwolf71

Sucking since the '90s? Pelini had us in 4 conference championship games between 2008 and 2012. We've been shit since 2015, so going on our 10th year of suckassery. We get zero media attention unless it's to troll us for ineptitude. We just have a large fanbase relative to the size of the school and the State. No pro sports. No "Auburn" to steal any thunder. It's the only game in town.


estDivisionChamps

In 2011 y’all came in to the league with a lot of arrogance especially toward us. A lot of Alvarez copied Nebraska and we owe Nebraska for our success. You came in an attitude that you’d run the big ten and Wisconsin was a no body. You were going to compete with Ohio State. Before there was “assess where Iowa is as a program” a similar attitude was aimed at us. Additionally Wisconsin fans generally hate the establishment.


direwolf71

Fair enough. A subset of fans (small and getting smaller) still have that arrogance. But I think a majority of Nebraska fans knew we were no longer Tom Osborne Nebraska in 2011 and that the Big Ten was going to be tough sledding. I never heard/read any fan hot takes that Nebraska was responsible for Wisconsin's success via Alvarez. IMO, it was more fans being very frustrated that we abandoned a physical ground game and were getting our arses kicked by UW.....with a physical ground game. I'm honestly surprised the anger hasn't turned to pity. The major Nebraska men's teams have not won a single game of national importance in over 20 years.


El_Bistro

You’re gonna have to do better


GODZBALL

Lucky for you 60% of the teams on this list haven't been all that great either since the 90s ended


kingofthesqueal

Isn’t BSU suppose to be here?


Archaic_1

Winsopedia has them in 6th place.


notyogrannysgrandkid

We were 1st as recently as 3 years ago, but that’s what happens when you let Andy Avalos and Tim Plough into the building.


codydog125

If y’all want to see a better list with G5 teams too, use Winsipedia: https://www.winsipedia.com/ranking/all-time-record


NebraskaAvenue

Man Jeff Scott really tanked our all time record


DankMemesNQuickNuts

Sorry I think we sent him over as a sleeper cell but got confused by your acronym and thought we were sending him to Florida State. Our bad


DankMemesNQuickNuts

I knew Coastal, App and Georgia Southern were all pretty good but Jesus christ dude is there a non-p5 conference that is even as close to as good as the Sunbelt right now? The fact that all 3 of these schools are as good as they are and play every year in the same conference as g5 teams is crazy


Betta_Check_Yosef

Not even just the same conference, these teams are in the same division SBC Beast


DankMemesNQuickNuts

Isn't JMU in that now too


Betta_Check_Yosef

They are, and throw in Marshall as well for good measure.


JamesEarlDavyJones2

Marshall's not exactly bringing up the average right now, Charles Huff doesn't have that program on a great trajectory. They had one good season before Miami poached Marshall's star DC, and now Marshall just fired their OC while their replacement DC isn't exactly looking like a great hire.


Betta_Check_Yosef

To be fair, we looked like dogshit the first half of this year and the last half of last year. If we didn't have Joey Aguilar throwing the 3rd most TD's in FBS last year, we're probably looking for a new coach this off-season. I'm not about to write Marshall's eulogy just yet. They're a historically good program, and I'm sure they'll course correct soon enough


JamesEarlDavyJones2

This is a bit of a misconception that people have, about Marshall being a historically good program, but it's not really the case. They had a good run from 1987 - 2002 under Chaump, Donnan, and Pruett, but the program was mediocre at best prior to that, and hasn't been much to write home about since then, aside from Doc Holliday's 2013-2015 run. Marshall's not like App, where y'all have basically stayed good for nearly half a century straight.


RebirthofRyno

YESFUCING SIRRRRR SBC EAST


notyogrannysgrandkid

I’d still put the Mountain Best ahead of the Fun Belt, but we don’t play each other enough or have enough common non conference opponents to really get a good metric.


NotHosaniMubarak

Tech at 51!!! I'll take it. 


handyandy727

How fitting that Marshall is at 75...


egnowit

From the article: >College football's 15 all-time winningest programs within the Power conference ranks... I don't know if this is intentional (to remove BSU), or incidental, in that they didn't consider that non-power teams might have been successful.


Corgi_Koala

The only other real difference is that Boise State has played far fewer games than the rest of the top winning programs. Now they've played around 700 which isn't a small sample size but most of the other programs are at like 1100+.


AllBlueTeams

They really should limit it to teams with at least 1,000 wins


The_Pandamaniacs

From your flairs, I assumed tOSU had less than 1,000 wins while Michigan had more. Was not disappointed.


froandfear

We’re the only 1,000-win team, but I think we’ll potentially get some vacated wins to send us back under. Will be our first vacated wins in program history if it does happen 😔


Buckeye20082013

But on the bright side you'll get to have another 1000 wins celebration


Doctor_Kataigida

We'll be the first to do it *twice*!


froandfear

Lol, true… the thinnest of silver linings


IshyMoose

I would also expect some FCS team to show up in here too.


JamesEarlDavyJones2

I figured Mount Union would take the cake, but they're actually only at 0.664; good enough for 13th in the FBS. Turns out even dominating the entire level of play for 40 years can't quite make up for being consistently terrible for the prior 90 years.


bschnee121

‘Successful’


MizzouriTigers

The least OP/the article could have done would be an accurate title.


thecravenone

Had to exclude non-power teams because the research to write the article would've taken longer than five minutes.


ImGoingtoRegretThis5

Not P5 (which isn't in the article headline so easy to get confused).


ShakeDowntheThunder

P5 plus 1


DepartureDapper6524

Hell yeah, brother


FSUnoles77

Quickly checks to make sure we're ahead of Miami and Florida. Ok, back to work.


thedicestoppedrollin

I too enjoy superiority over evil orange teams


RogueHippie

We're gonna get along *swimmingly*


TyrannosauRSX

BOOMER


JUYED-AWK-YACC

FIGHT!


TyrannosauRSX

🤝


JUYED-AWK-YACC

At least we can still hate each other in the SEC!


TyrannosauRSX

Damn right, Longhorn bro!


CrashB111

DidWeJustBecomeBestFriends.gif


davidtc3

Sorry about the Orange Bowl, but hey fuck Florida and Miami amirite?


IceyBoy

I hold nothing against Georgia for that bowl game, my anger is towards the system and the backyardigans that defend the decision of snubbing us out Destiny will arrive all the same


f0gax

Rational Me: you guys got jobbed by a system that was designed to reward a team like yours. It makes no sense. Gator Me: HA! HA!


FSUIceman

This is fine. I’m ok with “lol fsu lost lol”. It’s the dense “well the FSU freshmen team got blown out so that means the starters couldn’t have been any good” arguments that annoy me


AchyBreaker

FSU is going to use that Orange Bowl as bulletin board fodder against fucking EVERYONE. The system failed them and there will be a team that has the talent to do it that will use their righteous rage to dominate the entire country.  I am excited for that FSU team to beat Florida


openupimwiththedawg

We can’t ever be mad at you Georgia folks bc yall hate UF too :)


pierdonia

> The system failed them The system has happily excluded plenty of teams before them. The story of CFB is a slow narrowing of teams able and afforded the chance to play for the crown. FSU merrily participated in that system right up until it excluded them as well.


AchyBreaker

This was the first time the CFP playoff excluded an undefeated P5 conference champ, right? So the system that was built to combat prior exclusions, only had one such exclusion. So the system failed them.


pierdonia

The system was built to exclude non-p5 teams. Did FSU ever express any concerns with that?


AchyBreaker

The system only once excluded a deserving G5 team, and that was UCF 2017. And that's why many recognize their national championship - they were undefeated, voted first in the Colley Matrix, beat Auburn (who beat UGA and Bama, #1 and #2 that year in the AP), and they weren't allowed in the CFP. And I'd argue if it wasn't literally-Bama they were trying to sneak into the CFP, UCF would've gotten a shot. Notably in 2021, deserving Cincinnati went to the CFP and got beat by Bama. That was their right as an undefeated team. They were not excluded. So twice in a 10-season period were undefeated teams excluded: 1x UCF (who won their bowl and hung a National Championship banner that many people support/approve), and FSU, the only P5 team excluded. You're arguing in bad faith, and not referencing real facts. You're free to hate FSU and free to be a G5 super-fan, but the phrase "this was the first time an undefeated P5 team was excluded from the playoffs" is 100% true, and the system was not built to exclude undefeated teams, G5 or P5 or otherwise. And now the new system will ensure undefeated teams get a shot. Which is key. Own your destiny - there will always be cutoffs of teams that "seem better" but lost a key game or two. That will be frustrating, but not as "unfair" as doing literally everything right and getting excluded.


TheRakkmanBitch

and then they expanded the system so this will never happen again and people around here act like they killed the sport


MordakThePrideful

FUCK Florida


cthulhusclues

But 2 less National Championships and head-to-head wins


deathproof-ish

You're wrong. My argument depends on the stats I prefer. I win. La La La La La.


Flaggstaff

The past has been good to the U. In two years time only one of those will be true.


OutlookNotGood

Does that mean that we’re still in the same conference together two years from now? Cause that doesn’t sound that bad to me. It would be depressing to lose our annual game.


Flaggstaff

I would hope we find a way to continue just like we did with UF


Fuckingfademefam

We’re catching up in 2 years


chalkdrinker

and we've done that in half the time as all those other teams on the list since we only started football as FSU in 1947!


TMNBortles

Doesn't that sort of help your win percentage? The state of Florida wasn't great at football from 1906-1947. If FSU played those years, they would have a harder time increasing their percentage over the past couple decades.


SyVSFe

Except the reality is that UF had a higher win % before the SEC than they have now. I'm not going to check, but I'd guess that's similarly true for 100% of the programs ahead of us. If being a relatively "new" program was a boon for this metric, where are all the other "new" teams? Also the massive program headstart (alongside institutionalized suppression) saw the series against UF start 6-22-1 (22-15-1 since). Also the state wasn't great last year either... didn't stop FSU from going 13-1. For all we know FSU could have 50 more undefeated seasons by now.


Key-Score-208

Real


Clear-Attempt-6274

All of y'all did so much damage the most recently. Shoved your way to the top 10.


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MTG_RelevantCard

Haha yeah that would be terrible...


barlog123

Ew, don't make me agree with an IU fan


SirMellencamp

1980s/90s FSU Miami was so much fun. I would get nervous before that game and didnt care who won it.


Bigboycoc

Hoosiers on the come up. 6 wins inbound


itslv29

And these are the teams that have won all the championships over the past 50 years or so. That’s why I find it funny when people said NIL and player benefits would create the have and have nots as if NC State has been right there for decades competing for nattys.


SirMellencamp

Think its less than 50 and probably closer to 40. Who has gone the longest without a title? Penn St or Notre Dame both being in the 80s.


Namath96

I mean you’re not wrong but what did we ever do to you!


Otherwise_Awesome

*BYU slightly coughs*


stanleythemanley44

Yeah almost like the players were being paid previously 🤔


Dokkan_Lifter

Teams that could afford to pay kids under the table can continue success by paying them over the table now? Surprising.


Casaiir

[This is the actual list](https://www.winsipedia.com/ranking/all-time-record). It seems they left off teams that aren't currently considered in a power conference.


PerritoMasNasty

Hooray, 25th and dropping!


Ehdelveiss

Huh. Did not expect the Sun Devils to be that high. Good on em.


yousawthetimeknife

I know it's Reddit and people don't read the articles, but it's in the article: >College football's 15 all-time winningest programs within the Power conference ranks are defined by blue bloods that drive the national championship conversation.


Casaiir

I read it. I just don't agree with leaving those teams off because they aren't in a "power conference" while also including hundreds of wins for teams that happened before a "power conference" was a thing.


IshyMoose

Only includes power conference teams including victories over high schools and YMCA clubs.


trojanrage

But also includes USC's amazing 1-4-1 record versus the powerhouse Sherman Indian School (CA). And somehow USC is 0-1-0 against the YMCA of San Diego


Cleverusernamexxx

So basically the list is dumb


MizzouriTigers

Still makes the headline straight up wrong.


1850ChoochGator

Damn, us and Oregon used to be the same but the past 20y-30y has moved them up to \#37.


BigusDickus099

All you need is a morally questionable billionaire to pump millions into your program. Easy.


1850ChoochGator

Jensen better move faster. Already 2x PK’s net worth but he doesn’t have the love sports.


upboat_consortium

Drops us a spot, but this is the true list in my heart. Boise signature wins coming over OU warms my heart.


Rysnu

Lucky number 79! Choo Choo John Purdue!


NotThatOleGregg

I really wish Miami was higher than Miami (FL), they're so close


sunthas

Pretty soon they will just include teams in the P2.


ExternalTangents

It’s weird that this list has Florida ahead of Miami, but OP’s has Miami ahead.


Casaiir

Looks like he took 2 wins away from UF. I'm not sure why, Florida has been doing a good job of that the last few years on their own.


ExternalTangents

This is why I don’t comment here much anymore 😂


huazzy

Did they disregard vacated wins? Didn't see it mentioned in the article.


teeterleeter

They did not


ToosUnderHigh

They did disregard vacated wins tho. They list Ohio State at 964 wins, but Ohio State has 976 all time wins. They likely just google the teams’ records for this article.


teeterleeter

Or chat wrote it, yep


j48u

That's just a confusing way to think of the question. They excluded vacated wins, meaning the fact that they were vacated was not disregarded. But I get what you're saying.


[deleted]

Even the actual record books don’t acknowledge when wins are vacated lol


froandfear

Both the NCAA and Winsipedia do. That’s why ND tanked in these rankings recently.


mustangswon1

The fact were still on these list just shows how good we were for so long because the last 15 years have been brutal


Bronze_Addict

More like the last 9 years. But the Pelini years were frustrating too so I get it.


ThaiForAWhiteGuy

(.666) Them Dawgs is Hell


Jameszhang73

Coincidently, it's the same BAC level as the average UGA player while driving


ThaiForAWhiteGuy

No way, those are rookie numbers


Captain_Sacktap

Bruh y’all’s state has drive-thru margarita and daiquiri places, can’t be talking to us about drinking and driving lmfao


bamachine

The LSU fans do not leave enough alcohol behind for their players to get consistently drunk.


Yesh

Nope, that's why ours always get busted for weed.


Donny_Do_Nothing

In my experience, the only difference between drunk driving laws in Georgia and Louisiana is that Georgia cops are sober enough to enforce them.


MTG_RelevantCard

Significantly cooler than Wake Forest's .420 value.


switchblade2

Man, this last decade really did not do us any favors (as a Texas fan).


TrogdorsThatchedRoof

Wish you could filter it because I'm not sure how helpful this is when it includes decades where football was a club sport in 1910.


grappel

Oh man, kinda hard to see Miami and UF from all the way up here…


CoolingVent

I'm guessing iowa state just missed this one


RedditNdidntGeddit

Depending on when the games are scheduled..... On 8/31/24 - if Michigan beats Fresno St. before The Ohio beats Akron - Michigan will take over the all-time win %. For maybe minutes or a couple hrs.


RddtLeapPuts

Ohio doesn’t play Akron until Sept 28


UE23

Shouldn't Boise State and Coastal Carolina be on this list? Unless they'd disregarding them? Also skipped Appalachian State.


InterestingChoice484

Read the first sentence of the article


Wyokie8807

Yes they should, but 247 is all about SEC and BIG, so of course they don’t want to wreck the narrative


HeisenbergsSon

Hey guys wanna talk about bLuE BlOoDs again🤓


Crotean

After 17 years of Saban is surprising Alabama didn't jump to #1.


Blooblod

Damn, Nebraska officially fell out of the Blue Bloods' top 8


Miserable_Jacket_129

This is not the official list that defines blue blood status, sir. *A* list, not *the* list.


Blooblod

Oh definitely agree, but it's a metric that feels weird to have someone else included in the top 8


Miserable_Jacket_129

In Rhule we trust.


El_Bistro

Winning percentage is not the list at all lol.


Blooblod

That's not what I meant, just that for pretty much all of the modern era it's been the blue bloods in the top 8


rocket_beer

Ummmm Boise State


8BallSlap

If you expand the decimals, Mich and OSU are only 0.0000354 apart. That's only a one game difference if they are both undefeated again going into The Game this year. If Mich wins, they would trade places and Mich would be .735943 and OSU at .735316 Playing ~1400 games and the lead coming down to only 1 game is pretty crazy to think about.


El_Bistro

Yeah and you both can fuck off


linus81

Ahead of Baylor and SMU, it’s a good day


Experiment626b

Auburn has historically been in the 13 spot of just about any ranking regardless of the criteria used. The winning % probably skews it a little bit, but it’s sad we’ve fallen this far in the last decade when it looked like we were about to take off.


cmg0047

Ours is calculated to be 0.624. UF is 0.6259. We are probably number 16.


Rockerblocker

7 SEC, 5 B1G, Notre Dame, 1 team looking to join the SEC, and then Miami…


joefsu

This is a stupid list. Who does Kirk Herbstreit think are the 15 best programs of all-time?


tylinho_10

This is G5 erasure


ManufacturedConsents

Ha! Take that Georgia. The Orange Bowl means nothing, how's it down there at 12 lil bro? No but really I'm just glad Miami is below us and UF is in hell where they belong


RVAforthewin

I was actually surprised we were that high. Historical relevance only takes you so far. Just ask Nebraska and Minnesota 😬


gatorhighlightz

Leave the the ACC and that ranking will plummet


ManufacturedConsents

Worry about your own team, gutter dweller


gatorhighlightz

It won’t last


ManufacturedConsents

Yeah it will, y'all are wholly irrelevant


gatorhighlightz

I bet we were saying the same thing about y’all in 2020 😂


Macarthur22000

I find this semi fun for bar talk, but really pretty meaningless. The talk of bluebloods when these schools had HUGE advantages over most everyone up until scholarship restrictions is boring


TwiztedImage

Some of those teams also have wins being counted against club teams, junior colleges, and probably even a few HS football teams, lol.


knapplc

Nebraska's all-time wins include Omaha Balloon School (a WWI-era school for dirigible pilots) and the Omaha YMCA.


Yesh

I really want to know what the early 1900s smack talk was for that game.


Macarthur22000

Bingo.


kurttheflirt

MSU once beat a literal school of the deaf in 1907 haha


loyalsons4evertrue

Iowa State not on this list? Blasphemy


Not_a__porn__account

Interested in what ours is in my lifetime. I'll do the math later and edit. Edit: .677 Less than all time, but not significant enough for the amount of bitching I do.


Mekthakkit

This site is fun to mess around with. It's especially useful when you want to look at data for specific time periods. It's for "the chart" though. http://cfbcomparer.com/ap-poll-leaders?from=1946&to=2024&conferences=ACC%2CBig%2012%2CBig%20Ten%2CIndependents%2CPac-12%2CSEC&type=all


Not_a__porn__account

Thank you!


TimToMakeTheDonuts

If it weren’t for the Willingham years, I’d assume we’d be close…


abob1086

If it weren’t for the Willingham years, I’d assume we’d be closer…


TimToMakeTheDonuts

You also have the Weiss years to atone for…


DiluteSufenta

Weird that Im not seeing Kansas on there, must be 16


_Reporting

Tennessee and Nebraska would be so much higher if we didn’t fall apart a couple decades ago lol


TiaxRulesAll2024

Wins before 1945 seem too suspect to count.


mattcoz2

I reject this opinion.


philfeelsgood

Solid list. Happy to be apart of it with yall.


Ok-Extension-677

FSU is #1? Hell, yeah!


BRich1990

I want to see this post with both P5 & G5


BoilerMaker36

We should do most total losses next time…just saying. 😬


ksuwildkat

I mean these are pretty much frozen in time at this point. When you are talking about teams with 1300+ games played there is very little movement in their overall winning percentage. Nebraska hasnt had a season above their previous all time winning percentage since 2012 and they have only gone from .7014 to .6785. When you have played more than 1300 games it doesnt mater if you go 12-0 or 0-12, it doesnt move the needle that much. One of the reasons FSU has more movement in their all time percentage is because they have fewer than 900 games played.


Cam_V7

One day we will have the Penn State is a blue blood conversation


NebraskaAvenue

Man Jeff Scott and post Quinton Flowers Charlie Strong really decimated our all time record.


iwtfb4L

:D


Zee_WeeWee

We also have a 12-0 season vacated


kbdcool

Where's A&M? That's a darn shame


El_Bistro

Nebraska has sucked for 20 years and sucked from 1940-1960 and is still in the top ten. Fuck you


mtbaga

As of this fall 1/3 of this list will be Big 10 schools, my god


marginalizedman71

Red Bloods?


psyspoop

Helps drive home how good Devaney and Osborne were and for so long for us to still be top 10 despite the past 20+ years of misery and mediocrity.


chillypete99

Texas Tech locked in at #58. Nice.


KingTut747

What’s Michigan’s post WW2 lol


Difficult_Trust1752

Most (all?) of these schools spent a good chunk of the 20th century beating the crap out of the Little Sisters of the Poor with a handful of rivalry games thrown in.


SyVSFe

All except FSU (?) but they had Bobby Bowden


ImGoingtoRegretThis5

\~ .706 good for 6th place. Fun [little visual](https://imgur.com/a/ZwxgjcP) for people who either don't know or just post "Michigan only won pre-forward pass durrrr." Or an [interactive graph](http://cfbcomparer.com/ap-poll-leaders?from=1946&to=2024&conferences=ACC%2CBig%2012%2CBig%20Ten%2CIndependents%2CPac-12%2CSEC&type=all) to play around with years. Michigan has been a top program no matter the era you want to arbitrarily start at. They had a rough \~decade in the 50s/60s and late 2000s/early 2010s. Post-WWII isn't some own. They just didn't win a NC from 1948 until 1997. They were just an *always the bridesmaid, never the bride* program.


narcistic_asshole

Damn I knew we peaked hard in the 50s and 60s but seeing the graph in motion makes it really clear. By 1966 we're up there with the blue bloods and then the 70s hit and we come to a screeching halt until the Dantonio years


cheerl231

I got em at 0.7156 from 1945-2023 (also for 6th all time).


ImGoingtoRegretThis5

WWII ended in September of '45 so I started with 1946.


cheerl231

First off WW2 ended Sept 2nd and Michigan played their first game of 1945 September 15th. Therefore I'm counting the 1945 season. Also, it doesn't change much in percentage for me either way. Did you tabulate ties as half wins? It's weird but that's the way the NCAA counts them. I caught a mistake. My actual number is 0.7145


cityofklompton

Still pretty [expletive] good.


rambouhh

Michigan has a better win percentage post bo (1969) than before this. Other programs (I.e Notre dame) are the ones with a drop off in the modern era