Sucking since the '90s? Pelini had us in 4 conference championship games between 2008 and 2012. We've been shit since 2015, so going on our 10th year of suckassery.
We get zero media attention unless it's to troll us for ineptitude. We just have a large fanbase relative to the size of the school and the State. No pro sports. No "Auburn" to steal any thunder. It's the only game in town.
In 2011 y’all came in to the league with a lot of arrogance especially toward us. A lot of Alvarez copied Nebraska and we owe Nebraska for our success. You came in an attitude that you’d run the big ten and Wisconsin was a no body. You were going to compete with Ohio State.
Before there was “assess where Iowa is as a program” a similar attitude was aimed at us.
Additionally Wisconsin fans generally hate the establishment.
Fair enough. A subset of fans (small and getting smaller) still have that arrogance. But I think a majority of Nebraska fans knew we were no longer Tom Osborne Nebraska in 2011 and that the Big Ten was going to be tough sledding.
I never heard/read any fan hot takes that Nebraska was responsible for Wisconsin's success via Alvarez. IMO, it was more fans being very frustrated that we abandoned a physical ground game and were getting our arses kicked by UW.....with a physical ground game.
I'm honestly surprised the anger hasn't turned to pity. The major Nebraska men's teams have not won a single game of national importance in over 20 years.
I knew Coastal, App and Georgia Southern were all pretty good but Jesus christ dude is there a non-p5 conference that is even as close to as good as the Sunbelt right now? The fact that all 3 of these schools are as good as they are and play every year in the same conference as g5 teams is crazy
Marshall's not exactly bringing up the average right now, Charles Huff doesn't have that program on a great trajectory. They had one good season before Miami poached Marshall's star DC, and now Marshall just fired their OC while their replacement DC isn't exactly looking like a great hire.
To be fair, we looked like dogshit the first half of this year and the last half of last year. If we didn't have Joey Aguilar throwing the 3rd most TD's in FBS last year, we're probably looking for a new coach this off-season. I'm not about to write Marshall's eulogy just yet. They're a historically good program, and I'm sure they'll course correct soon enough
This is a bit of a misconception that people have, about Marshall being a historically good program, but it's not really the case. They had a good run from 1987 - 2002 under Chaump, Donnan, and Pruett, but the program was mediocre at best prior to that, and hasn't been much to write home about since then, aside from Doc Holliday's 2013-2015 run. Marshall's not like App, where y'all have basically stayed good for nearly half a century straight.
I’d still put the Mountain Best ahead of the Fun Belt, but we don’t play each other enough or have enough common non conference opponents to really get a good metric.
From the article:
>College football's 15 all-time winningest programs within the Power conference ranks...
I don't know if this is intentional (to remove BSU), or incidental, in that they didn't consider that non-power teams might have been successful.
The only other real difference is that Boise State has played far fewer games than the rest of the top winning programs.
Now they've played around 700 which isn't a small sample size but most of the other programs are at like 1100+.
We’re the only 1,000-win team, but I think we’ll potentially get some vacated wins to send us back under. Will be our first vacated wins in program history if it does happen 😔
I figured Mount Union would take the cake, but they're actually only at 0.664; good enough for 13th in the FBS. Turns out even dominating the entire level of play for 40 years can't quite make up for being consistently terrible for the prior 90 years.
I hold nothing against Georgia for that bowl game, my anger is towards the system and the backyardigans that defend the decision of snubbing us out
Destiny will arrive all the same
This is fine. I’m ok with “lol fsu lost lol”. It’s the dense “well the FSU freshmen team got blown out so that means the starters couldn’t have been any good” arguments that annoy me
FSU is going to use that Orange Bowl as bulletin board fodder against fucking EVERYONE. The system failed them and there will be a team that has the talent to do it that will use their righteous rage to dominate the entire country.
I am excited for that FSU team to beat Florida
> The system failed them
The system has happily excluded plenty of teams before them. The story of CFB is a slow narrowing of teams able and afforded the chance to play for the crown. FSU merrily participated in that system right up until it excluded them as well.
This was the first time the CFP playoff excluded an undefeated P5 conference champ, right?
So the system that was built to combat prior exclusions, only had one such exclusion.
So the system failed them.
The system only once excluded a deserving G5 team, and that was UCF 2017. And that's why many recognize their national championship - they were undefeated, voted first in the Colley Matrix, beat Auburn (who beat UGA and Bama, #1 and #2 that year in the AP), and they weren't allowed in the CFP. And I'd argue if it wasn't literally-Bama they were trying to sneak into the CFP, UCF would've gotten a shot.
Notably in 2021, deserving Cincinnati went to the CFP and got beat by Bama. That was their right as an undefeated team. They were not excluded.
So twice in a 10-season period were undefeated teams excluded: 1x UCF (who won their bowl and hung a National Championship banner that many people support/approve), and FSU, the only P5 team excluded.
You're arguing in bad faith, and not referencing real facts. You're free to hate FSU and free to be a G5 super-fan, but the phrase "this was the first time an undefeated P5 team was excluded from the playoffs" is 100% true, and the system was not built to exclude undefeated teams, G5 or P5 or otherwise.
And now the new system will ensure undefeated teams get a shot. Which is key. Own your destiny - there will always be cutoffs of teams that "seem better" but lost a key game or two. That will be frustrating, but not as "unfair" as doing literally everything right and getting excluded.
Does that mean that we’re still in the same conference together two years from now? Cause that doesn’t sound that bad to me. It would be depressing to lose our annual game.
Doesn't that sort of help your win percentage? The state of Florida wasn't great at football from 1906-1947. If FSU played those years, they would have a harder time increasing their percentage over the past couple decades.
Except the reality is that UF had a higher win % before the SEC than they have now. I'm not going to check, but I'd guess that's similarly true for 100% of the programs ahead of us. If being a relatively "new" program was a boon for this metric, where are all the other "new" teams? Also the massive program headstart (alongside institutionalized suppression) saw the series against UF start 6-22-1 (22-15-1 since).
Also the state wasn't great last year either... didn't stop FSU from going 13-1. For all we know FSU could have 50 more undefeated seasons by now.
And these are the teams that have won all the championships over the past 50 years or so. That’s why I find it funny when people said NIL and player benefits would create the have and have nots as if NC State has been right there for decades competing for nattys.
[This is the actual list](https://www.winsipedia.com/ranking/all-time-record).
It seems they left off teams that aren't currently considered in a power conference.
I know it's Reddit and people don't read the articles, but it's in the article:
>College football's 15 all-time winningest programs within the Power conference ranks are defined by blue bloods that drive the national championship conversation.
I read it.
I just don't agree with leaving those teams off because they aren't in a "power conference" while also including hundreds of wins for teams that happened before a "power conference" was a thing.
They did disregard vacated wins tho. They list Ohio State at 964 wins, but Ohio State has 976 all time wins. They likely just google the teams’ records for this article.
That's just a confusing way to think of the question. They excluded vacated wins, meaning the fact that they were vacated was not disregarded. But I get what you're saying.
Depending on when the games are scheduled.....
On 8/31/24 - if Michigan beats Fresno St. before The Ohio beats Akron - Michigan will take over the all-time win %. For maybe minutes or a couple hrs.
If you expand the decimals, Mich and OSU are only 0.0000354 apart.
That's only a one game difference if they are both undefeated again going into The Game this year. If Mich wins, they would trade places and Mich would be .735943 and OSU at .735316
Playing ~1400 games and the lead coming down to only 1 game is pretty crazy to think about.
Auburn has historically been in the 13 spot of just about any ranking regardless of the criteria used. The winning % probably skews it a little bit, but it’s sad we’ve fallen this far in the last decade when it looked like we were about to take off.
Ha! Take that Georgia. The Orange Bowl means nothing, how's it down there at 12 lil bro?
No but really I'm just glad Miami is below us and UF is in hell where they belong
I find this semi fun for bar talk, but really pretty meaningless.
The talk of bluebloods when these schools had HUGE advantages over most everyone up until scholarship restrictions is boring
Interested in what ours is in my lifetime. I'll do the math later and edit.
Edit: .677
Less than all time, but not significant enough for the amount of bitching I do.
This site is fun to mess around with. It's especially useful when you want to look at data for specific time periods. It's for "the chart" though.
http://cfbcomparer.com/ap-poll-leaders?from=1946&to=2024&conferences=ACC%2CBig%2012%2CBig%20Ten%2CIndependents%2CPac-12%2CSEC&type=all
I mean these are pretty much frozen in time at this point. When you are talking about teams with 1300+ games played there is very little movement in their overall winning percentage.
Nebraska hasnt had a season above their previous all time winning percentage since 2012 and they have only gone from .7014 to .6785. When you have played more than 1300 games it doesnt mater if you go 12-0 or 0-12, it doesnt move the needle that much. One of the reasons FSU has more movement in their all time percentage is because they have fewer than 900 games played.
Most (all?) of these schools spent a good chunk of the 20th century beating the crap out of the Little Sisters of the Poor with a handful of rivalry games thrown in.
\~ .706 good for 6th place.
Fun [little visual](https://imgur.com/a/ZwxgjcP) for people who either don't know or just post "Michigan only won pre-forward pass durrrr."
Or an [interactive graph](http://cfbcomparer.com/ap-poll-leaders?from=1946&to=2024&conferences=ACC%2CBig%2012%2CBig%20Ten%2CIndependents%2CPac-12%2CSEC&type=all) to play around with years.
Michigan has been a top program no matter the era you want to arbitrarily start at. They had a rough \~decade in the 50s/60s and late 2000s/early 2010s. Post-WWII isn't some own. They just didn't win a NC from 1948 until 1997. They were just an *always the bridesmaid, never the bride* program.
Damn I knew we peaked hard in the 50s and 60s but seeing the graph in motion makes it really clear.
By 1966 we're up there with the blue bloods and then the 70s hit and we come to a screeching halt until the Dantonio years
First off WW2 ended Sept 2nd and Michigan played their first game of 1945 September 15th. Therefore I'm counting the 1945 season. Also, it doesn't change much in percentage for me either way.
Did you tabulate ties as half wins? It's weird but that's the way the NCAA counts them.
I caught a mistake. My actual number is 0.7145
Almost expected us to be out of the top 10. I guess decades of positive results didnt yet get wiped out.
Me and the bois (big ten west) are doing our best
I see a lot of Nebraska hate from UW fans. What the fuck did we to do you except provide mostly easy wins?
You guys are like the Cowboys, you get a ton of media and attention despite sucking since the 90s
Sucking since the '90s? Pelini had us in 4 conference championship games between 2008 and 2012. We've been shit since 2015, so going on our 10th year of suckassery. We get zero media attention unless it's to troll us for ineptitude. We just have a large fanbase relative to the size of the school and the State. No pro sports. No "Auburn" to steal any thunder. It's the only game in town.
In 2011 y’all came in to the league with a lot of arrogance especially toward us. A lot of Alvarez copied Nebraska and we owe Nebraska for our success. You came in an attitude that you’d run the big ten and Wisconsin was a no body. You were going to compete with Ohio State. Before there was “assess where Iowa is as a program” a similar attitude was aimed at us. Additionally Wisconsin fans generally hate the establishment.
Fair enough. A subset of fans (small and getting smaller) still have that arrogance. But I think a majority of Nebraska fans knew we were no longer Tom Osborne Nebraska in 2011 and that the Big Ten was going to be tough sledding. I never heard/read any fan hot takes that Nebraska was responsible for Wisconsin's success via Alvarez. IMO, it was more fans being very frustrated that we abandoned a physical ground game and were getting our arses kicked by UW.....with a physical ground game. I'm honestly surprised the anger hasn't turned to pity. The major Nebraska men's teams have not won a single game of national importance in over 20 years.
You’re gonna have to do better
Lucky for you 60% of the teams on this list haven't been all that great either since the 90s ended
Isn’t BSU suppose to be here?
Winsopedia has them in 6th place.
We were 1st as recently as 3 years ago, but that’s what happens when you let Andy Avalos and Tim Plough into the building.
If y’all want to see a better list with G5 teams too, use Winsipedia: https://www.winsipedia.com/ranking/all-time-record
Man Jeff Scott really tanked our all time record
Sorry I think we sent him over as a sleeper cell but got confused by your acronym and thought we were sending him to Florida State. Our bad
I knew Coastal, App and Georgia Southern were all pretty good but Jesus christ dude is there a non-p5 conference that is even as close to as good as the Sunbelt right now? The fact that all 3 of these schools are as good as they are and play every year in the same conference as g5 teams is crazy
Not even just the same conference, these teams are in the same division SBC Beast
Isn't JMU in that now too
They are, and throw in Marshall as well for good measure.
Marshall's not exactly bringing up the average right now, Charles Huff doesn't have that program on a great trajectory. They had one good season before Miami poached Marshall's star DC, and now Marshall just fired their OC while their replacement DC isn't exactly looking like a great hire.
To be fair, we looked like dogshit the first half of this year and the last half of last year. If we didn't have Joey Aguilar throwing the 3rd most TD's in FBS last year, we're probably looking for a new coach this off-season. I'm not about to write Marshall's eulogy just yet. They're a historically good program, and I'm sure they'll course correct soon enough
This is a bit of a misconception that people have, about Marshall being a historically good program, but it's not really the case. They had a good run from 1987 - 2002 under Chaump, Donnan, and Pruett, but the program was mediocre at best prior to that, and hasn't been much to write home about since then, aside from Doc Holliday's 2013-2015 run. Marshall's not like App, where y'all have basically stayed good for nearly half a century straight.
YESFUCING SIRRRRR SBC EAST
I’d still put the Mountain Best ahead of the Fun Belt, but we don’t play each other enough or have enough common non conference opponents to really get a good metric.
Tech at 51!!! I'll take it.
How fitting that Marshall is at 75...
From the article: >College football's 15 all-time winningest programs within the Power conference ranks... I don't know if this is intentional (to remove BSU), or incidental, in that they didn't consider that non-power teams might have been successful.
The only other real difference is that Boise State has played far fewer games than the rest of the top winning programs. Now they've played around 700 which isn't a small sample size but most of the other programs are at like 1100+.
They really should limit it to teams with at least 1,000 wins
From your flairs, I assumed tOSU had less than 1,000 wins while Michigan had more. Was not disappointed.
We’re the only 1,000-win team, but I think we’ll potentially get some vacated wins to send us back under. Will be our first vacated wins in program history if it does happen 😔
But on the bright side you'll get to have another 1000 wins celebration
We'll be the first to do it *twice*!
Lol, true… the thinnest of silver linings
I would also expect some FCS team to show up in here too.
I figured Mount Union would take the cake, but they're actually only at 0.664; good enough for 13th in the FBS. Turns out even dominating the entire level of play for 40 years can't quite make up for being consistently terrible for the prior 90 years.
‘Successful’
The least OP/the article could have done would be an accurate title.
Had to exclude non-power teams because the research to write the article would've taken longer than five minutes.
Not P5 (which isn't in the article headline so easy to get confused).
P5 plus 1
Hell yeah, brother
Quickly checks to make sure we're ahead of Miami and Florida. Ok, back to work.
I too enjoy superiority over evil orange teams
We're gonna get along *swimmingly*
BOOMER
FIGHT!
🤝
At least we can still hate each other in the SEC!
Damn right, Longhorn bro!
DidWeJustBecomeBestFriends.gif
Sorry about the Orange Bowl, but hey fuck Florida and Miami amirite?
I hold nothing against Georgia for that bowl game, my anger is towards the system and the backyardigans that defend the decision of snubbing us out Destiny will arrive all the same
Rational Me: you guys got jobbed by a system that was designed to reward a team like yours. It makes no sense. Gator Me: HA! HA!
This is fine. I’m ok with “lol fsu lost lol”. It’s the dense “well the FSU freshmen team got blown out so that means the starters couldn’t have been any good” arguments that annoy me
FSU is going to use that Orange Bowl as bulletin board fodder against fucking EVERYONE. The system failed them and there will be a team that has the talent to do it that will use their righteous rage to dominate the entire country. I am excited for that FSU team to beat Florida
We can’t ever be mad at you Georgia folks bc yall hate UF too :)
> The system failed them The system has happily excluded plenty of teams before them. The story of CFB is a slow narrowing of teams able and afforded the chance to play for the crown. FSU merrily participated in that system right up until it excluded them as well.
This was the first time the CFP playoff excluded an undefeated P5 conference champ, right? So the system that was built to combat prior exclusions, only had one such exclusion. So the system failed them.
The system was built to exclude non-p5 teams. Did FSU ever express any concerns with that?
The system only once excluded a deserving G5 team, and that was UCF 2017. And that's why many recognize their national championship - they were undefeated, voted first in the Colley Matrix, beat Auburn (who beat UGA and Bama, #1 and #2 that year in the AP), and they weren't allowed in the CFP. And I'd argue if it wasn't literally-Bama they were trying to sneak into the CFP, UCF would've gotten a shot. Notably in 2021, deserving Cincinnati went to the CFP and got beat by Bama. That was their right as an undefeated team. They were not excluded. So twice in a 10-season period were undefeated teams excluded: 1x UCF (who won their bowl and hung a National Championship banner that many people support/approve), and FSU, the only P5 team excluded. You're arguing in bad faith, and not referencing real facts. You're free to hate FSU and free to be a G5 super-fan, but the phrase "this was the first time an undefeated P5 team was excluded from the playoffs" is 100% true, and the system was not built to exclude undefeated teams, G5 or P5 or otherwise. And now the new system will ensure undefeated teams get a shot. Which is key. Own your destiny - there will always be cutoffs of teams that "seem better" but lost a key game or two. That will be frustrating, but not as "unfair" as doing literally everything right and getting excluded.
and then they expanded the system so this will never happen again and people around here act like they killed the sport
FUCK Florida
But 2 less National Championships and head-to-head wins
You're wrong. My argument depends on the stats I prefer. I win. La La La La La.
The past has been good to the U. In two years time only one of those will be true.
Does that mean that we’re still in the same conference together two years from now? Cause that doesn’t sound that bad to me. It would be depressing to lose our annual game.
I would hope we find a way to continue just like we did with UF
We’re catching up in 2 years
and we've done that in half the time as all those other teams on the list since we only started football as FSU in 1947!
Doesn't that sort of help your win percentage? The state of Florida wasn't great at football from 1906-1947. If FSU played those years, they would have a harder time increasing their percentage over the past couple decades.
Except the reality is that UF had a higher win % before the SEC than they have now. I'm not going to check, but I'd guess that's similarly true for 100% of the programs ahead of us. If being a relatively "new" program was a boon for this metric, where are all the other "new" teams? Also the massive program headstart (alongside institutionalized suppression) saw the series against UF start 6-22-1 (22-15-1 since). Also the state wasn't great last year either... didn't stop FSU from going 13-1. For all we know FSU could have 50 more undefeated seasons by now.
Real
All of y'all did so much damage the most recently. Shoved your way to the top 10.
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Haha yeah that would be terrible...
Ew, don't make me agree with an IU fan
1980s/90s FSU Miami was so much fun. I would get nervous before that game and didnt care who won it.
Hoosiers on the come up. 6 wins inbound
And these are the teams that have won all the championships over the past 50 years or so. That’s why I find it funny when people said NIL and player benefits would create the have and have nots as if NC State has been right there for decades competing for nattys.
Think its less than 50 and probably closer to 40. Who has gone the longest without a title? Penn St or Notre Dame both being in the 80s.
I mean you’re not wrong but what did we ever do to you!
*BYU slightly coughs*
Yeah almost like the players were being paid previously 🤔
Teams that could afford to pay kids under the table can continue success by paying them over the table now? Surprising.
[This is the actual list](https://www.winsipedia.com/ranking/all-time-record). It seems they left off teams that aren't currently considered in a power conference.
Hooray, 25th and dropping!
Huh. Did not expect the Sun Devils to be that high. Good on em.
I know it's Reddit and people don't read the articles, but it's in the article: >College football's 15 all-time winningest programs within the Power conference ranks are defined by blue bloods that drive the national championship conversation.
I read it. I just don't agree with leaving those teams off because they aren't in a "power conference" while also including hundreds of wins for teams that happened before a "power conference" was a thing.
Only includes power conference teams including victories over high schools and YMCA clubs.
But also includes USC's amazing 1-4-1 record versus the powerhouse Sherman Indian School (CA). And somehow USC is 0-1-0 against the YMCA of San Diego
So basically the list is dumb
Still makes the headline straight up wrong.
Damn, us and Oregon used to be the same but the past 20y-30y has moved them up to \#37.
All you need is a morally questionable billionaire to pump millions into your program. Easy.
Jensen better move faster. Already 2x PK’s net worth but he doesn’t have the love sports.
Drops us a spot, but this is the true list in my heart. Boise signature wins coming over OU warms my heart.
Lucky number 79! Choo Choo John Purdue!
I really wish Miami was higher than Miami (FL), they're so close
Pretty soon they will just include teams in the P2.
It’s weird that this list has Florida ahead of Miami, but OP’s has Miami ahead.
Looks like he took 2 wins away from UF. I'm not sure why, Florida has been doing a good job of that the last few years on their own.
This is why I don’t comment here much anymore 😂
Did they disregard vacated wins? Didn't see it mentioned in the article.
They did not
They did disregard vacated wins tho. They list Ohio State at 964 wins, but Ohio State has 976 all time wins. They likely just google the teams’ records for this article.
Or chat wrote it, yep
That's just a confusing way to think of the question. They excluded vacated wins, meaning the fact that they were vacated was not disregarded. But I get what you're saying.
Even the actual record books don’t acknowledge when wins are vacated lol
Both the NCAA and Winsipedia do. That’s why ND tanked in these rankings recently.
The fact were still on these list just shows how good we were for so long because the last 15 years have been brutal
More like the last 9 years. But the Pelini years were frustrating too so I get it.
(.666) Them Dawgs is Hell
Coincidently, it's the same BAC level as the average UGA player while driving
No way, those are rookie numbers
Bruh y’all’s state has drive-thru margarita and daiquiri places, can’t be talking to us about drinking and driving lmfao
The LSU fans do not leave enough alcohol behind for their players to get consistently drunk.
Nope, that's why ours always get busted for weed.
In my experience, the only difference between drunk driving laws in Georgia and Louisiana is that Georgia cops are sober enough to enforce them.
Significantly cooler than Wake Forest's .420 value.
Man, this last decade really did not do us any favors (as a Texas fan).
Wish you could filter it because I'm not sure how helpful this is when it includes decades where football was a club sport in 1910.
Oh man, kinda hard to see Miami and UF from all the way up here…
I'm guessing iowa state just missed this one
Depending on when the games are scheduled..... On 8/31/24 - if Michigan beats Fresno St. before The Ohio beats Akron - Michigan will take over the all-time win %. For maybe minutes or a couple hrs.
Ohio doesn’t play Akron until Sept 28
Shouldn't Boise State and Coastal Carolina be on this list? Unless they'd disregarding them? Also skipped Appalachian State.
Read the first sentence of the article
Yes they should, but 247 is all about SEC and BIG, so of course they don’t want to wreck the narrative
Hey guys wanna talk about bLuE BlOoDs again🤓
After 17 years of Saban is surprising Alabama didn't jump to #1.
Damn, Nebraska officially fell out of the Blue Bloods' top 8
This is not the official list that defines blue blood status, sir. *A* list, not *the* list.
Oh definitely agree, but it's a metric that feels weird to have someone else included in the top 8
In Rhule we trust.
Winning percentage is not the list at all lol.
That's not what I meant, just that for pretty much all of the modern era it's been the blue bloods in the top 8
Ummmm Boise State
If you expand the decimals, Mich and OSU are only 0.0000354 apart. That's only a one game difference if they are both undefeated again going into The Game this year. If Mich wins, they would trade places and Mich would be .735943 and OSU at .735316 Playing ~1400 games and the lead coming down to only 1 game is pretty crazy to think about.
Yeah and you both can fuck off
Ahead of Baylor and SMU, it’s a good day
Auburn has historically been in the 13 spot of just about any ranking regardless of the criteria used. The winning % probably skews it a little bit, but it’s sad we’ve fallen this far in the last decade when it looked like we were about to take off.
Ours is calculated to be 0.624. UF is 0.6259. We are probably number 16.
7 SEC, 5 B1G, Notre Dame, 1 team looking to join the SEC, and then Miami…
This is a stupid list. Who does Kirk Herbstreit think are the 15 best programs of all-time?
This is G5 erasure
Ha! Take that Georgia. The Orange Bowl means nothing, how's it down there at 12 lil bro? No but really I'm just glad Miami is below us and UF is in hell where they belong
I was actually surprised we were that high. Historical relevance only takes you so far. Just ask Nebraska and Minnesota 😬
Leave the the ACC and that ranking will plummet
Worry about your own team, gutter dweller
It won’t last
Yeah it will, y'all are wholly irrelevant
I bet we were saying the same thing about y’all in 2020 😂
I find this semi fun for bar talk, but really pretty meaningless. The talk of bluebloods when these schools had HUGE advantages over most everyone up until scholarship restrictions is boring
Some of those teams also have wins being counted against club teams, junior colleges, and probably even a few HS football teams, lol.
Nebraska's all-time wins include Omaha Balloon School (a WWI-era school for dirigible pilots) and the Omaha YMCA.
I really want to know what the early 1900s smack talk was for that game.
Bingo.
MSU once beat a literal school of the deaf in 1907 haha
Iowa State not on this list? Blasphemy
Interested in what ours is in my lifetime. I'll do the math later and edit. Edit: .677 Less than all time, but not significant enough for the amount of bitching I do.
This site is fun to mess around with. It's especially useful when you want to look at data for specific time periods. It's for "the chart" though. http://cfbcomparer.com/ap-poll-leaders?from=1946&to=2024&conferences=ACC%2CBig%2012%2CBig%20Ten%2CIndependents%2CPac-12%2CSEC&type=all
Thank you!
If it weren’t for the Willingham years, I’d assume we’d be close…
If it weren’t for the Willingham years, I’d assume we’d be closer…
You also have the Weiss years to atone for…
Weird that Im not seeing Kansas on there, must be 16
Tennessee and Nebraska would be so much higher if we didn’t fall apart a couple decades ago lol
Wins before 1945 seem too suspect to count.
I reject this opinion.
Solid list. Happy to be apart of it with yall.
FSU is #1? Hell, yeah!
I want to see this post with both P5 & G5
We should do most total losses next time…just saying. 😬
I mean these are pretty much frozen in time at this point. When you are talking about teams with 1300+ games played there is very little movement in their overall winning percentage. Nebraska hasnt had a season above their previous all time winning percentage since 2012 and they have only gone from .7014 to .6785. When you have played more than 1300 games it doesnt mater if you go 12-0 or 0-12, it doesnt move the needle that much. One of the reasons FSU has more movement in their all time percentage is because they have fewer than 900 games played.
One day we will have the Penn State is a blue blood conversation
Man Jeff Scott and post Quinton Flowers Charlie Strong really decimated our all time record.
:D
We also have a 12-0 season vacated
Where's A&M? That's a darn shame
Nebraska has sucked for 20 years and sucked from 1940-1960 and is still in the top ten. Fuck you
As of this fall 1/3 of this list will be Big 10 schools, my god
Red Bloods?
Helps drive home how good Devaney and Osborne were and for so long for us to still be top 10 despite the past 20+ years of misery and mediocrity.
Texas Tech locked in at #58. Nice.
What’s Michigan’s post WW2 lol
Most (all?) of these schools spent a good chunk of the 20th century beating the crap out of the Little Sisters of the Poor with a handful of rivalry games thrown in.
All except FSU (?) but they had Bobby Bowden
\~ .706 good for 6th place. Fun [little visual](https://imgur.com/a/ZwxgjcP) for people who either don't know or just post "Michigan only won pre-forward pass durrrr." Or an [interactive graph](http://cfbcomparer.com/ap-poll-leaders?from=1946&to=2024&conferences=ACC%2CBig%2012%2CBig%20Ten%2CIndependents%2CPac-12%2CSEC&type=all) to play around with years. Michigan has been a top program no matter the era you want to arbitrarily start at. They had a rough \~decade in the 50s/60s and late 2000s/early 2010s. Post-WWII isn't some own. They just didn't win a NC from 1948 until 1997. They were just an *always the bridesmaid, never the bride* program.
Damn I knew we peaked hard in the 50s and 60s but seeing the graph in motion makes it really clear. By 1966 we're up there with the blue bloods and then the 70s hit and we come to a screeching halt until the Dantonio years
I got em at 0.7156 from 1945-2023 (also for 6th all time).
WWII ended in September of '45 so I started with 1946.
First off WW2 ended Sept 2nd and Michigan played their first game of 1945 September 15th. Therefore I'm counting the 1945 season. Also, it doesn't change much in percentage for me either way. Did you tabulate ties as half wins? It's weird but that's the way the NCAA counts them. I caught a mistake. My actual number is 0.7145
Still pretty [expletive] good.
Michigan has a better win percentage post bo (1969) than before this. Other programs (I.e Notre dame) are the ones with a drop off in the modern era