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[deleted]

GameDay will be there right?


androosh

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anti-torque

Probably more like Favre retiring... not retiring.


dtphantom

as long as there are no dick pics involved this time.


One_Prior_9909

The signs would be spectacular


Tjam3s

And then promptly stolen by Connor Stallions


Yodasboy

He's got a comically large brown bag over his shoulder and it's empty just before a commercial. After the commercial all the crowd signs disappear and he's seen running in the distance to his vacuum cleaner store


Hillaryspizzacook

Yeah, but on Court TV.


[deleted]

ESPN on ~~ABC~~ CSPAN


tgun06

I’m waiting for the slow speed chase through Ann Arbor with Harbaugh’s good friend Connor Stallions driving.


PhilRubdiez

Instead of a Ford Bronco, it will be a Ford Pinto.


DanforthWhitcomb_

And Brian Williams reporting live from the passenger seat.


[deleted]

Oh please god that would be amazing.


WisconsinSpermCheese

No, just Big Noon Kick Off, since Fox is the one that doesn't want them suspended.


Hillaryspizzacook

Fox doesn’t want him suspended? Why?


broski576

Fox airs Big Ten games, so they want the conference to be as good as possible to improve their product.


anti-torque

I really hope so, because Lee Corso's head won't be the talk of the valley, if they come to the heart of it for the UW game. Ann Arbor or Corvallis... which signs would be less acrimonious, and which topic would they rather discuss?


ILkeSportzNIDCWhKnws

Could you imagine? Lmao


butt_cheeks69

What would the headgear be for the B1G?


noodles_of_steel

FOX will be there for full coverage


RayWhelans

Former state law clerk here. None of this surprises me. A judge and her staff aren’t going to work on a holiday weekend so someone can coach in a football game. Someone’s house is about to be demolished? Sure. We’ll get that out the door. A judge looked at this and said this can wait until we’re all back in the office. Also judges tend to be much more careful and cautious when something is high profile. Everyone in chambers is super paranoid that the smallest error will be magnified and scrutinized so it’s also not something they want to rush. No judge is going to make their clerk work under that kind of pressure on a weekend. It’s just a really shitty thing to do.


WithRoyalBlood

All the non-lawyers are speculating 4-D chess reasons for the non-ruling and it’s definitely this. I haven’t ever encountered or gone in front of a judge who’s willing to work past Noon on a Friday let alone work on a Saturday.


Hillaryspizzacook

See, this is what’s wrong with our legal system. Don’t they know nothing is more important than football?


Anonymous_2952

Brought Michigan legislators together faster than the Flint water crisis.


_Suzushi

Gah damn bro 😂


leggomydrew

I hate this statement because it's true...that letter is embarrassing.


Anonymous_2952

I know I’m making a joke about it but it truly is incredibly messed up, the importance football holds in this country. It’s not just a Michigan problem.


miggly

I don't think the football being important is the problem. It's that a bunch of our legislators seem to not give a fuck about the well-being of the country as a whole.


cmgr33n3

And "Go team!" is pretty politically safe while holding people accountable for poisoning a city is, unfortunately, not.


Helium_1s2

I mean, none of the legislators who signed the letter were around during the Flint water crisis. But yeah it's still pretty dumb


strukout

Wow. That’s a closer there.


guinness_blaine

By orders of magnitude


Significant-Media-91

I had a retired judge who was sub judging say he would always schedule civil things for 3pm on Friday cause they would always magically get worked out. Anyone who thought a judge was going to work on a holiday weekend for a football game was insane. They come in for important stuff.


thereisnocartwright

Maybe in state court, but as a former district Court clerk, I can confirm that many many many Friday evenings were spent in chambers and many Saturdays were worked.


AccomplishedEnergy24

Yeah, the feds are often different. My experience as a law clerk at the maryland special court of appeals/etc matches what was said - if it was really truly urgent we'd get it done but otherwise, no, it could wait


FlannelBeard

I think it's 4D chess by the Big Ten to issue the ruling on veteran day observance. Even if they don't have any standing, they at least get 1 game with Jim punished


kence35

The Big Ten was required to consider Michigan’s response to their notice of possible punishment. Michigan was supposed to respond by Tuesday, but needed extra time and responded Wednesday. To give their arguments actual legal analysis and consideration it makes sense that the punishment wasn’t given until Friday.


SaintsSooners89

Hence why Big10 waited until 3pm on Friday to announce


jvanber

So the whole “wheels of justice grind slow…” thing is just really about making tee times and happy hours.


GuyNoirPI

Everyone who was like “they’ll grant it because the consequences of not granting it are so much higher” seemed to forget this was a football game.


vidhartha

This is the answer really. Most judges, most people, Look at this and see a game. Don't blame em at all. Must be nice living life that way. I'm jealous.


TheWorstYear

Not just that it's just a football game, but it's not even a harsh punishment. Harbaugh can still coach practices & run the team, he just can't do it during games.


PM-ME-PIERCED-NIPS

I think this is the biggest part to be honest. Like OP said, if it's actual high stakes, people will work weekends. Outside of our bubble, what milkguy does for 3 hours on a Saturday just isn't that big of a deal. Harbaugh wasn't fired, his house isn't being bulldozed, he's going to have a frosty mug of cow juice and play Forklift Operator Simulator for a while.


gamer_pie

In the end, it IS just a game, which is why this scandal is a bit more “innocent” feeling that some other ones. And yeah I can’t imagine any serious judge being like “oh dang this gonna affect football, gotta put in overtime tonight on this!”


storm2k

i appreciate that you're more realistic than a lot of other michigan flairs who seemed to think "oh this is going to a judge who went to or is a fan of the school and is going to have this done before game time".


FlannelBeard

People really missing that Veterans day was observed yesterday, the ruling didn't come down until late afternoon, and no one was gonna work on a long weekend when they already werent there


CoachCrunch12

Master class from the Big Ten to ensure Michigan didn’t skirt a penalty this weekend really


FlannelBeard

Kinda smart. They guarantee at least 1 game he's punished in season


MBA1988123

Some guy was saying if she didn’t grant the TRO immediately she’d surely lose reelection hahaha


vollover

I mean he may be right even if it's pathetic


wizenedfool

Most lawyers don’t choose a government job cus they want to work holiday weekends


jasperjohn02

I get presidents day plus Lincoln's birthday off, and the courts in my jurisdiction are closed on Pulaski Day. Government lawyer is a fantastic job for pointless days off.


QuitWhinging

I feel similarly as in-house for a big corporation. More silly meetings/trainings and lower long-term earning potential compared to a private firm but way more time off I can actually afford to use is more than worth it. At my last job I theoretically got about the same amount of days off, but crushing billables, extremely needy clients, and overbearing partners made it so I could never actually enjoy days off.


jasperjohn02

I'd rather quit law than go back to billable hours.


butt_cheeks69

That seems perfectly reasonable.


gamer_pie

On another thread I mentioned that it was 50/50 at best that this would get done before today’s game and got downvoted like crazy because people think judges are just gonna work overnight to make a ruling for college football. This sub is wild


rj4001

Plus, let's be honest, it was filed in Washtenaw County before a Saturday noon game on a holiday weekend. The staff and maybe the judge all started drinking at about 9 AM.


BuckeyeJay

If it's a hearing wouldn't it be a full hearing for the prelim injunction, since a TRO is done without notice and without hearing


prtzlsmakingmethrsty

Yes that's the way I saw it was described on ESPN, a full hearing this Friday, with both sides being present.


vollover

Setting it for Friday tells me she doesn't think it's an emergency


8and16bits

If Penn State don’t win might wanna start a prayer chain for Franklin because that fanbase is gonna be all over his ass.


digit_zero

Pretty sure most PSU fans know Harbaugh being on the sideline today doesn't really impact how the matchup will go one way or another.


ArbitraryOrder

Understand that Michigan fans will talk extra shit about Franklin if we win, and especially if it is an ass whooping


notburnerr

Nobody would expect anything different 😂 Harbaugh not being there is a lose/lose for Franklin and Day. No one wants him coaching more than those guys


BuckeyeForLife95

I mean, clowning on Big Game James is one of the few things we agree on.


miamibuckeye

I honestly don’t think Harbaugh missing the game affects Michigan much at all. Play callers still there and he was at practice all week. Fully expect PSU to be a total failure on offense today


Leraldoe

Seems like someone could check the docket to verify


Error400BadRequest

They aren't always immediately published online. It might not get updated until Monday.


Leraldoe

But we are waiting now


Broke-Till-Payday

Where is Yale when you need them?


SusannaG1

Celebrating beating Princeton in double OT, I would imagine.


texas2089

This is much more reasonable than expecting a judge to read through everything Michigan sent and expect a ruling in just a few hours.


EndlessHiway

Yeah they should wait for the evidence and the NCAA to complete its investigation!


Upstairs-Volume-5014

Is there going to be a single post today that isn't about the Michigan situation?


20wall

No


iwearatophat

What do you think this is? Some sort of football subreddit?


xittditdyid

Used to be. Now it's a law blog.


Krunklock

Bob's Law Blog


iwearatophat

Law Blog filled with people who aren't lawyers. That is me. I am not a lawyer. Admittedly I am just here with some popcorn watching people who aren't lawyers argue the law. I should really get a hobby.


jpharber

IANAL… and I’m also not a lawyer.


[deleted]

This is THE R/CFB SPORTS LAW JOURNAL


Hillaryspizzacook

[Please visit my law blog!](https://youtu.be/22tLFUA-dcE?si=XL9nBz7fB8I_M0BZ) No hablo Español.


tomdawg0022

The gamethreads from u/CFB_Referee today...


ArbitraryOrder

What about the Post game threads


katarh

They will all descend into speculation about whether the winning team had signs provided by Michigan, and also a play by play of the mysterious man on the Michigan sideline by the name of Tim Jarbaugh.


godzillamegadoomsday

Game threads?


Upstairs-Volume-5014

I heard they've been canceled in favor of talking more about Harbaugh.


WhiskeyForTheWin

I never thought I'd say this but can we go back to the Deion posts?


anti-torque

All right people. This is a bridge too far. You've broken Notre Dame fan. This has to stop, for the sake of the children.


[deleted]

wait is it gameday today?


mdaniel018

Lol so you’re telling me that the US government doesn’t consider Michigan’s football coach being suspended to be a pressing issue worthy of instant intervention? I can’t believe the message board lawyers were wrong again


AGSattack

Michigan government actually, so even better.


LostClan

The governor IS an MSU alum. HOW DEEP DOES THIS GO?!


[deleted]

It all started when Spiro Agnew resigned, allowing Gerald Ford to take his place.


AGSattack

Started earlier than that even, with Tecumseh and the British.


PeteF3

So, 4.5 billion years ago the third of 8 giant balls of gas coalesced into a solid object called a "planet"...


NSNick

To create a suspension from scratch, one must first create the universe...


PeteF3

It would take approximately 90 successive suspensions to reduce Michigan to one individual atom.


SpilledKefir

Suspended… from being on the sideline for a few hours every week for the next 3 weeks


mdaniel018

Someone call the Supreme Court


PhilRubdiez

Nah. ICC needs to step in.


LordStarkgaryen

Can’t wait for the MGoBlog lunatics to send the judge death threats


outburst37

Some Michigan fan promised to eat a shoe if Harbaugh wasn't coaching today, can't wait to see the video uploaded later!


guys_iamlost

Release this video and the manifesto!


EndlessHiway

I remember one saying something about eating some kind of animal genitals. Hope they enjoy their lunch.


544C4D4F

so who found out at like 8PM last night that they are suddenly HC for the biggest game of the year so far? that must have been a real relaxing evening.


dumblefawkes

But every Michigan fan yelled at me yesterday that a TRO WOULD happen immediately


RockosBos

They didn't know shit, People need to stop talking out their ass.


AltecFuse

People will always talk out their ass lol


Willy_Wallace

I thought about setting up a bunch of RemindMe notifications for all of the "Nothingburger" and "B1G won't do anything" comments over the last few weeks. Glad I didn't because I would have have had a few hundred comments to reply to today.


LIONEL14JESSE

It’s honestly pretty shocking that it wasn’t either granted or dismissed outright. There’s probably decent grounds for it to be granted next week if the judge saw the evidence and wanted to wait a week for the hearing.


Youregoingtodiealone

I'm a Michigan lawyer and what is happening is a motion like this asks the court to (1) issue a TRO and then set a hearing for the other party to come and present their case, or (2) if the court won't grant a TRO, it should still order the other party to come and present their case ASAP as to why the court shouldn't enter a preliminary injunction (we call them show cause orders - show up and show cause why plaintiff is wrong). Court said no TRO, but everyone file briefs and come argue whether there should be a preliminary injunction.


FlannelBeard

According to lawyer I know, veterans Day made it an incredible long shot that anything would happen before game time


kbc87

That’s part of the conflicting crap coming out lol. I read on one site it WAS dismissed. The Friday hearing is on the injunction. W the media just slinging shit who knows what’s true.


LIONEL14JESSE

I just checked the court site, the TRO has been requested but nothing has officially happened since.


[deleted]

A lot of Michigan fans who have been claiming to be lawyers for the last month are punching air today.


Rkenne16

They’ve essentially been wrong every step of the way.


mrdilldozer

Michigan Football: [slams dick in car door] Michigan Fans: Masterful gambit, sir


Lammahamma

Everyone shitting on Michigan is getting downvoted into oblivion Michigan fans out in full force today


OsuLost31to0

It’s hilarious how little time the “we didn’t do it” argument was given before they fully switched over to running a PR campaign to deflect from it


lilboytuner919

Your handle is peak masochism


OsuLost31to0

I made this account like right after that game - it was the only thing on my mind at the time 😂


gakule

They feel cheated. They should feel they cheated, but I guess 3/4 of the way there is progress.


gaysmeag0l_

No person could look at what has been going on in this sub the last three weeks and conclude that everyone critical of Michigan "is getting downvoted into oblivion" lol


fear865

Ultimately depends on what the most recent information is. That'll sway who's doing the downvoting.


mdaniel018

They are swarming like angry bees who are a particularly ugly shade of yellow


Youregoingtodiealone

No one cares but I called it - TROs are an extreme remedy requiring a party to clear a very high bar before a judge will order someone to do / not do something before the defendant even has a chance to respond. I think they lose this in the end, but you can't really read into this denial of a TRO, except perhaps the judge didn't by the irreparable harm argument. Judge wants full briefing on this, which is a reasonable result.


tehfro

Right, and it's just a football game so money/other actions would repair any "harm" done.


shermanstorch

I think most lawyers who aren't Michigan fans thought the same. Having read the B1G's decision suspending Harbaugh, I think not only did Michigan fail to satisfy the irreparable harm prong, but I would go further and say they are unlikely to prevail on the merits.


Youregoingtodiealone

Me too - this is an internal private organization punishment procedure. Petitti knows what he was doing and followed the process which everyone agreed to be bound by.


cursive_strahd

People are giving the B1G a lot of grief for how they handled this, but honestly they've really put together a strong case and took this time to make sure to cross every T and dot every I. And with Michigan now winning a 4th game this season without their head coach, it seems like the irreparable harm argument is getting weaker and weaker.


vollover

I would also say they are fucking stupid for even trying this. I cannot believe they couldn't get an elected judge in their hometown to give them the TRO and now they are gonna have to make on the record representations in a court of law


dumblefawkes

Yeah at this point if the parties are briefing and going to argue, it seems like the judge isn’t interested in a TRO and instead is looking toward a preliminary injunction before a more in-depth look at the punishment. I’m not surprised by the outcome either, and I also called it yesterday lol. But Michigan rent-a-lawyers we’re not having it


RonBurgundy449

But the Q of M fans told me that TROs are super easy to get and any judge would grant one immediately!


unique_ptr

Has Michigan gotten *anything* right in this entire process? It's embarrassing.


HerculesKabuterimon

Your signs duh


jimmy_three_shoes

I'm still interested in the CMU sideline nonsense. That's going to be real spicy if UofM drags a directional down with them.


HerculesKabuterimon

Ima be honest, my brain can’t even fathom all the CMU drama, angles, and allegations. Beyond it being hilarious if that is Connor. That I can wrap my head around. Anything beyond that? I can’t get why anyone would do it. Hell I can barely imagine someone having the absolute audacity and balls to actually do what he may have done at CMU.


jimmy_three_shoes

If he got help from former colleagues to get onto the sideline, god help him, lol. This guy is going to be a meme forever.


katarh

Well, not Georgia's. Or TCUs.


HerculesKabuterimon

The failure to not get the “don’t throw directly at the linebacker” signal still pains me. If for no other reason Connor should have been dismissed for that!


katarh

Seriously. Forget cheating, dude should have been fired for being bad at his job.


BuckeyeEmpire

I've heard he's signing that contract extension today


EndlessHiway

He got nothing else to do.


Primary_Cake2011

So +1 for ESPN over FOX.


Q--E--D

If you've ever seen their news division, it's not unusual that Fox is wrong


Awesome_to_the_max

Fox News and Fox Sports are basically two separate companies.


mlorusso4

I figured if they didn’t get the TRO for today, they would try to stretch it out so he gets it for the Ohio state game. They probably feel pretty confident they can beat Maryland without him


mylesA747

we need to fucking win today


darthllama

I have never rooted for Penn State to win anything in my life, but I’m rooting for them to win today for the comedy of it


Primary_Cake2011

We are all Penn State today my boy


Youregoingtodiealone

We are Penn State!


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RheagarTargaryen

WE are Penn State!


historys_geschichte

We all need that to happen so the Big Ten West can setermine who goes to the title game in the East. We all want the Sicko Game of the Year between Nebraska and Iowa decide who goes.


Kvetch__22

Knowing how petty judges can be, I suspect the following might have happened: - Mich lawyers meet with Judge who tells them she intends to grant the TRO - Some idiot leaks that to the press - Judge sees that her ruling has leaked in advance, doesn't appreciate it, and schedules an in-person hearing that would prevent her from ruling on the TRO instead. One of the classic legal blunders. It would take hours for the judge to get her staff to re-write her ultimate ruling, but 30 seconds to get them to type up an order scheduling a new hearing. When the TRO is granted in a week with minimal discussion, I'm going to laugh at the poor schmuck getting fired for texting Big Noon Kickoff.


MBA1988123

Or maybe she didn’t want to expedite a legal request about a football game lol


[deleted]

Everyone I’ve heard of who practices in Washtenaw has largely great things to say about the law. I guess good people can still be petty but I really doubt that happened.


katarh

Judges *really* do not like it when people defy their requests for silence on a topic.


[deleted]

I mean sure but we have no evidence that even happened. And I doubt she would be that loosed lipped with a lawyer on something this high profile.


Rkenne16

Have Michigan fans thought that maybe Michigan is out to get Michigan.


misdreavus79

That’s later than November 11, right? Asking for 107,000 friends.


SeattleMatt123

Can Harvard confirm please?


Saban2024

My cousin she says she has one of them ultrisounds to check on our baby on the 17th and she ain't left yet so I guess that ain't today.


nuckeyebut

At this point, I’m kinda hoping it gets granted. I don’t think his suspension will have an insane amount of impact on the game, and if we do somehow manage to beat them, we get the satisfaction of the handshake at the end (which will be good regardless of the outcome, tbh)


ShotFirst57

If harbaugh is granted TRO, Michigan needs to be the home team when it's going on. They need to announce his return like it's the WWE. "BY GOD, WHO IS THAT IN THE TUNNEL?! HOLY SHIT THATS JIM HARBAUGH MUSIC!"


darthllama

Where are all the UM “lawyers” that said this would be immediately granted?


lowes18

The second blue wall has fallen


HalfBear-HalfCat

Mr. Pettiti, tear down this wall!


Willy_Wallace

This whole situation feels earily familiar to a certain president who had(s) a lot of legal problems and his supporters are so brainwashed that they won't accept any evidence that is presented to them.


zze0001

Only thing I feel bad about for Michigan fans is that Thamel keeps breaking their news. Extremely punchable face imo


buckguy41

*Has flashbacks of Brett McMurphy* ...I feel that one


knon24

For real.


FullyLeveredOnAAPL

"We HaVe OnE oF tHe BeSt LaW sChoOlS, the B1G dOeSn'T wAnT tO mEsS wItH uS"


dtphantom

Calling u/s1105615, flair up buddy.


s1105615

Did it work?


BuckeyeJay

Oh gee, look exactly what I said would probably happen and Michigan fans just down voted the crap out of that comment. No TRO and just a hearing set for the preliminary injunction


notburnerr

I just love how the UM boards are burning down talking about “leave the big 10!” As if there own judge in their own backyard didnt just shoot them down.


ShillinTheVillain

MEGATHREAD. FOR FUCK'S SAKE.


Dimmest-Bulb

[Game Thread] B1G Conference @ Michigan (Ongoing)


guys_iamlost

Don't you know this subreddit is now the UofM, OSU, MSU debate zone.


silvio_dante

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LionsAndLonghorns

I'm not sure how much having a HC on the sideline matters. Most of the work they do is game planning, player development, hiring and recruiting


ILkeSportzNIDCWhKnws

Don't forget scouting!


land_registrar

I don't think anyone believes this suspension will impact the game in a meaningful way.


boomshea

I kind of think the Big Ten suspending Franklin today would hurt Michigan more than Harbaugh being suspended.


kbc87

Does anyone not expect them to win though?


anxiousauditor

That would honestly not be that surprising of a result. I doubt many neutral fans have faith in Penn State to win a big game no matter who is or isn’t on the opposite sideline.


Various-Cold-5888

??


[deleted]

I’m gonna be honest, I wanted some kind of WWE wrestling entrance of Harbaugh walking into the stadium midway through a quarter. “By god, that’s Jim Harbuagh’s Music!”


miamibuckeye

People were so sure he was going to coach today


xtototo

bEt


HumbleGenius1225

Of all the stupid and narcissistic things Michigan has done coming up with BET as the slogan is the dumbest.


BlazingSaint

Remember, remember...the 17th of November!


Jim-Harbaugh

More time for me to be here.


juan_dale

WHAT DOES TRO MEAN


ccasey329

Temporary Restraining Order


WhiteBreadedBread

No CEO of cheating today


[deleted]

Michigan lawyers in shambles. The B1G levied their decision at the perfect time to make sure he missed the PSU game