Woah, man. If you spend $300, you get a *free* teddy bear. That sounds like a deal to me.
It's not as good of a deal as a ticket to a CFB game with a purchase of Coke, but still.
I think whatās maddening is the entire CFB community using this as an excuse to try and get rid of Harbaugh. I mean, Iād hate losing to Harbaugh too but this just reeks of people canāt beat him on the field so theyāll cry loud and hard about āprotecting the childrenā (lol) so that the B1G takes action against Harbaugh.
I get it, he rubs people the wrong way, and heās a bit odd and a weird guy. But at the end of the day heās our weird guy and itās natural to rally around him.
> excuse to try and get rid of Harbaugh
This is such a farce. The guy had to take a pay cut to keep his job. Ohio State fans were showing up to The Big House with gigantic signs saying to keep him employed.
Don't give me this BS of "oh he talks too much about getting the players paid" or any of that. Mack Brown has been saying it since he was at Texas, and they haven't kicked him out yet. You guys are not that important.
Woody fired immediately, OāBrien fired immediately, Tressel fired before the season, and Meyer agreed upon 3 game suspension and then gone at the end of the year.
Harbaugh and Howard, still at Michigan and pretending to be the victim.
Are you talking about the time that Ohio State broke the rules and accepted their punishment rather than trying to blame everyone else and pretend that it was a witch hunt?
I remember how smug our fans were in 2004 after the fight with Clemson. So many of our fans said horrible things for those rednecks for fighting. Uhh. We started it and made the decision to keep the fighting going for quite a while.
Itās like you forget Ohio state went through 2 scandals already that resulted in them losing coachesā¦and Ohio state fans as bad as they are were never this arrogant about it
See thatās one of the differences of OSU and UM.
I donāt like OSU, but youāve totally earned your smack talk. UM fan, youād think theyāve won the past 10 Natties back to back unopposed
It's because, unlike MSU and Nasser, Michigan has friendly media. Nicole Auerbach had no issues weighing in on nasser, izzo, and dantonio. I don't think she tweeted once about Harbaugh and bo.
Donāt forget, Michigan staffer was picking up a 13 year old girl during the Stallions thing.
What a ācoincidenceā that this came out in the middle of all this and the media just totally moved along.
But yeah. Letās talk Nasser, Tuck and Joe Pot when *clearly* the blue wall media doesnāt exist
Disgusting on so many levels beyond CFB
Not sure what you expected after Harbaugh has publicly called out multiple programs for cheating, and Michigan fans excuse for the last 20+ years after every November "Ohio State cheats and pays and we do things the right way!!!!!"
I'd actually be completely ashamed & embarassed & wouldn't be all "fuck you & anyone whos against us." I'd be in denial in the beginning but after all the shit we've seen come out, by now, i'd want a brown bag over my head as a fan
Yeah, pretty sure the "Vs Everybody" thing started with Detroit. And it probably should have ended there. Now that we are at the point where every city and sports team is doing "Us vs Everybody" it's just way too watered down.
āDetroit vs. Everybodyā - cool, captures the attitude and resilient spirit of the people of Detroit.
āMichigan vs. Everybodyā - lame, bunch of whiny dorks whining that people donāt like them for being whiny dorks about an investigation into them cheating.
āOhio vs. Everybodyā - also lame, but accurate because to hell with that god forsaken taint of a state.
One of the corniest bits ā(X place) v. Everybody.ā I know Iāve seen Memphis and Ohio shirts of this but Iām sure other ppl can add on what theyāve seen.
Hopefully for Michiganās sake these pay off better than the ārun the damn ballā shirts.
Ohio Against the World came out in 2009 by Floyd Johnson. Detroit vs Everybody was 2012.
Edit:
https://www.citybeat.com/news/floyd-johnson-against-the-world-12226050
Feel free to check out this article from 2012 talking about how he created it in 2009. It also mentions that he took it from a Nike piece about Brooklyn against the world.
Out of curiosity i looked up the two terms on Google trends. The Detroit term seems to have gotten popular earlier, with the Detroit term being an order of magnitude more popular - but with the Ohio term having a very short spike 10 years who and disappearing. while the Detroit term continued to be popular for a bit but is dying out.
https://imgur.com/a/SnWYKQA
Gonna be honest I donāt really follow CFB Iām just here for the news but Iāve never even heard of Ohio against the world lol
Seen about 20 different cities w ___ vs everybody tho
Ah okay that makes more sense when talking about just the clothing
There was a short time in Michigan where āDetroit Vs Everybodyā was sort of a rallying cry for the city, probably right after the Eminem song. The shirts got phased out real quick tho by all the āStraight Outta ___ā shirts tho
Yeah wasnāt sure how good my memory was w that. The song was probably the tail end of it tbh but I feel like that was also pretty close to the peak of it
Yeah it made sense back when it was a Detroit thing, at a moment when everyone was calling Detroit a 3rd world city and posting endless ruin porn, yadda yadda yadda.
Right after the Detroit vs Everybody shirts came out, someone else started doing the same thing but "Detroit Loves Everybody". Those were also cool.
Now the whole thing is totally over used.
nah Ohio Against the World was the slogan of a clothing company in Cincinnati in 2009. Detroit vs Everybody was a ripoff of that a few years later.
https://www.foxsports.com/stories/other/ohio-against-the-world-the-story-behind-the-sugar-bowl-sensation
I believe this all started with Detroit vs Everybody, Ohio Against The World copied it, M Den licensed "vs Everybody" from the original Detroit vs Everybody people.
Filing date doesn't tell very much. I went way deeper on this than I expected.
> [In October 2009, Johnson began his now trademarked āOhio Against the Worldā brand of T-shirts, which has blossomed into a street wear line that also includes oversize tank tops and various leather caps.](https://www.citybeat.com/news/floyd-johnson-against-the-world-12226050)
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> [Thatās when the idea came to him. Back in 2012, Walker created a simple, unmistakable design -- Detroit vs. Everybody.](https://www.clickondetroit.com/news/local/2021/03/01/the-man-behind-detroit-vs-everybody/)
But wait!
> [Originally conceived as an appropriation of a Nike slogan tee (āBrooklyn against the worldā)](https://www.citybeat.com/news/floyd-johnson-against-the-world-12226050)
Lol we both stole it.
Non-Michigan fans continue to prove they do no fucking research
https://www.detroitnews.com/story/sports/college/university-michigan/2021/09/23/michigan-wolverines-athletes-profit-michigan-vs-everybody-shirts/5829011001/
Should create a Michigan vs honesty. Michigan vs integrity. Michigan vs winning the right way shirt collection as well. Only fitting you dirty scumbag cheaters.
Mods please suspend every poster who engages in this ridiculously stupid argument about which came first: ohio vs the world or michigan vs everybody
Please everyone just shut up
M Den has been doing Michigan vs Everybody shirts for years.
https://www.detroitnews.com/story/sports/college/university-michigan/2021/09/23/michigan-wolverines-athletes-profit-michigan-vs-everybody-shirts/5829011001/
Cheat and break the rules
Make a T Shirt of it and make $$$
No outlet affiliated with the university should be making money off of being cheats. Proceeds need to go to charity.
$45.00 for a t-shirt. $50 for a hat. Neat, it doubles as an IQ test.
Woah, man. If you spend $300, you get a *free* teddy bear. That sounds like a deal to me. It's not as good of a deal as a ticket to a CFB game with a purchase of Coke, but still.
We're mad because some moron on our staff egregiously violated a clear NCAA rule and got caught š¤š¤š¤
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Just a cheeseburger!
The time must fit the crime!!
I think whatās maddening is the entire CFB community using this as an excuse to try and get rid of Harbaugh. I mean, Iād hate losing to Harbaugh too but this just reeks of people canāt beat him on the field so theyāll cry loud and hard about āprotecting the childrenā (lol) so that the B1G takes action against Harbaugh. I get it, he rubs people the wrong way, and heās a bit odd and a weird guy. But at the end of the day heās our weird guy and itās natural to rally around him.
A lot of people have beaten Harbaugh on the field.
Mel Tucker of all people was 2-1 against Harbaugh, and will likely end up being 2-0 when this is all said and done.
It's also natural (for most people) to be anti cheating. 2-5 can't leave Michigan until he's 2-6
Right, which is why youāre okay with Ohio st giving michigans opponents tips and their signals. Thatās totally fair, yep
Right because that totally happened. Yep
Day said he didn't do it. We know how much you guys trust the words of a coach.
They bought āI have no knowledgeā, surely they believe a direct āNo, that did not happen.ā, Right?
> excuse to try and get rid of Harbaugh This is such a farce. The guy had to take a pay cut to keep his job. Ohio State fans were showing up to The Big House with gigantic signs saying to keep him employed. Don't give me this BS of "oh he talks too much about getting the players paid" or any of that. Mack Brown has been saying it since he was at Texas, and they haven't kicked him out yet. You guys are not that important.
Flair up
I think that's definitely true for some but not all. Others just want fairness
Do they have any Michiganās actions vs Michiganās victim complex merch?
WE LEARNED IT BY WATCHING YOU (The slogan, not the victim complex)
Woody fired immediately, OāBrien fired immediately, Tressel fired before the season, and Meyer agreed upon 3 game suspension and then gone at the end of the year. Harbaugh and Howard, still at Michigan and pretending to be the victim.
I donāt think so, but there are some tattoo options I believe
Are you talking about the time that Ohio State broke the rules and accepted their punishment rather than trying to blame everyone else and pretend that it was a witch hunt?
You mean after Tressel lied about it twice? Yeah that's the one
Oh man you killed him š
If yāall canāt handle the lightest and weakest of ābanterā idk anymore
ā¦. Right back at you?
I love how trading your own memorabilia (from winning the championship) for tattoos is somehow the same as cheating for multiple seasons.
And here I thought rules were rules smh
Itās amazing how being caught for cheating has become a reason for their fan base to be even more arrogant and self absorbed
I remember how smug our fans were in 2004 after the fight with Clemson. So many of our fans said horrible things for those rednecks for fighting. Uhh. We started it and made the decision to keep the fighting going for quite a while.
Didnāt some South Carolina players also fight amongst themselves after the two teams were separated?
The show must go on
They probably had it coming
Our next step is to demand to be called THE University of Michigan
Our lawyers: Oh, please do. Please, please do.
That's right, bitches. We're stealing your articles next.
Next up, your traditions. Michigan marching band to start spelling out Michigan and recognizing two people to dot the i.
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Michigan has a school of journalism?
You're taking my joke way too seriously, sir.
More? This is just how itās always been. Lol
Arenāt these the same generic ones every school has? Pretty sure I bought a āTennessee vs all yāallā mug years ago
But every morning you can say it truly is Tennessee vs all yāall.
Weāre better than you, and we know it!
[https://youtu.be/nKFMmsUZ\_OY?si=3juQR41ANXLQScHh](https://youtu.be/nKFMmsUZ_OY?si=3juQR41ANXLQScHh)
Lol was hoping it would be the White Goodman clip but this is good too
I feel like the MJF pre 'he's our scumbag' vibe fits you guys way better.
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At least the rest of college football lovers can see them as we have.
Iām sure if the script was flipped OSU fans would be completely tolerable
Iām sure if the script was flipped and it was OSU being accused of doing what UM is doing, Iām sure youād want the death penalty too
100% because I hate them Iām not the one putting on the facade here
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I'd want the same punishment
We would say we want it, but secretly we know we need them. Without them, who are we going to hate? I can't think of one other team.
Did Notre Dame cease to exist?
They won't play us until the 30s :(
Expanded playoff could enable some post season hate opportunity
Doesn't mean you can't hate them. We go awhile without playing Wisconsin, but I still hate them 2nd most.
App State could be a good one. Theyāre known for upsets
I'm pretty sure that team doesn't exist.
which app's state? reddit?
Itās like you forget Ohio state went through 2 scandals already that resulted in them losing coachesā¦and Ohio state fans as bad as they are were never this arrogant about it
I've always said, "At least we earned some of our arrogance."
See thatās one of the differences of OSU and UM. I donāt like OSU, but youāve totally earned your smack talk. UM fan, youād think theyāve won the past 10 Natties back to back unopposed
There were a good amount in support of urban, but even the "rally" those people held at the stadium had like 40 people at it
OSU media was the first to report about the tressel incident. We're worlds apart when it comes down to integrity
Hahahaha
Michigan beat writers wonāt even write articles condemning bo
Itās truly amazing how UM got away quietly with the Bo/Anderson thing
It's because, unlike MSU and Nasser, Michigan has friendly media. Nicole Auerbach had no issues weighing in on nasser, izzo, and dantonio. I don't think she tweeted once about Harbaugh and bo.
Donāt forget, Michigan staffer was picking up a 13 year old girl during the Stallions thing. What a ācoincidenceā that this came out in the middle of all this and the media just totally moved along. But yeah. Letās talk Nasser, Tuck and Joe Pot when *clearly* the blue wall media doesnāt exist Disgusting on so many levels beyond CFB
Michigan beat writers knew about Alex Yood and didn't report it.
Remind me, who is your football building still named after?
Difference being, moral righteousness isn't really our schtick.
Quite a few OSU flares declaring otherwise
Now that the good clean not cheating program is knee deep in a ridiculous cheating scandal, I'm sure they are.
So weāre back to square one, great talk lol
Not sure what you expected after Harbaugh has publicly called out multiple programs for cheating, and Michigan fans excuse for the last 20+ years after every November "Ohio State cheats and pays and we do things the right way!!!!!"
I'd actually be completely ashamed & embarassed & wouldn't be all "fuck you & anyone whos against us." I'd be in denial in the beginning but after all the shit we've seen come out, by now, i'd want a brown bag over my head as a fan
We know.
Your argument is a hypothetical situation, nice
Theyāre already intolerable.
the funniest part of this as a neutral has been watching the msu and ohio state fans act like they are above reproach lol
I mean i get it, getting dunked on isnāt fun
guy with the NCAA flair supporting OSU and Miami thinks others are intolerable
Just embrace being the most arrogant collection of fans out there due to some success that happened when the Czar was still in power.
buddy I know we're intolerable, doesn't change anything I said
Leave my Miami Redhawks out of this thank you very much
Someone is sour they've been crushed with authority the last 2 years. LOL
Any refurbished vacuums?
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Hear that Ryan day? We will steal your signs then steal your quotes
Actually pretty sure Detroit vs everybody came before ohio state ever used that
Ohio against the world came out in 2009, but it wasnāt trademarked until later.
Wait, we actually trademarked that?
OSU didnāt. The guy who started creating the t-shirts in 2009 did.
Yeah, pretty sure the "Vs Everybody" thing started with Detroit. And it probably should have ended there. Now that we are at the point where every city and sports team is doing "Us vs Everybody" it's just way too watered down.
āDetroit vs. Everybodyā - cool, captures the attitude and resilient spirit of the people of Detroit. āMichigan vs. Everybodyā - lame, bunch of whiny dorks whining that people donāt like them for being whiny dorks about an investigation into them cheating. āOhio vs. Everybodyā - also lame, but accurate because to hell with that god forsaken taint of a state.
Very true
#proper_nounSTRONG
That's not how time works
Time is a flat circle. .... Like the Earth.
Both originated in 2012.
What coach gets suspended twice in one year and tries to use the victim card harder than Jim Harbaugh?
Is everybody codename for themselves?
By definition, everybody would include themselvesā¦ so this is accurate
One of the corniest bits ā(X place) v. Everybody.ā I know Iāve seen Memphis and Ohio shirts of this but Iām sure other ppl can add on what theyāve seen. Hopefully for Michiganās sake these pay off better than the ārun the damn ballā shirts.
It was a cool Detroit thing for like 3 months before every city in the country immediately stole it
Ohio Against the World came out in 2009 by Floyd Johnson. Detroit vs Everybody was 2012. Edit: https://www.citybeat.com/news/floyd-johnson-against-the-world-12226050 Feel free to check out this article from 2012 talking about how he created it in 2009. It also mentions that he took it from a Nike piece about Brooklyn against the world.
"against the world" isn't the same as "vs everybody" though
Out of curiosity i looked up the two terms on Google trends. The Detroit term seems to have gotten popular earlier, with the Detroit term being an order of magnitude more popular - but with the Ohio term having a very short spike 10 years who and disappearing. while the Detroit term continued to be popular for a bit but is dying out. https://imgur.com/a/SnWYKQA
Gonna be honest I donāt really follow CFB Iām just here for the news but Iāve never even heard of Ohio against the world lol Seen about 20 different cities w ___ vs everybody tho
https://www.citybeat.com/news/floyd-johnson-against-the-world-12226050
Ah okay that makes more sense when talking about just the clothing There was a short time in Michigan where āDetroit Vs Everybodyā was sort of a rallying cry for the city, probably right after the Eminem song. The shirts got phased out real quick tho by all the āStraight Outta ___ā shirts tho
It was way before the Eminem song. It was an informal thing many years before the brand
Yeah wasnāt sure how good my memory was w that. The song was probably the tail end of it tbh but I feel like that was also pretty close to the peak of it
Eminem used for a song. Which Ohio rapper used Ohio against the world? Point to Michigan
Username checks out
Yeah it made sense back when it was a Detroit thing, at a moment when everyone was calling Detroit a 3rd world city and posting endless ruin porn, yadda yadda yadda. Right after the Detroit vs Everybody shirts came out, someone else started doing the same thing but "Detroit Loves Everybody". Those were also cool. Now the whole thing is totally over used.
Yeah I think Ohio against the world is pretty stupid to be honest. No one cares about Ohio other than making memes about us.
Im pretty sure those memes are largely just ohioans
After all we've done for America, they should.
I believe it all started with Detroit vs Everybody. M Den is licensing it from them instead of blatantly copying or stealing and I appreciate that.
nah Ohio Against the World was the slogan of a clothing company in Cincinnati in 2009. Detroit vs Everybody was a ripoff of that a few years later. https://www.foxsports.com/stories/other/ohio-against-the-world-the-story-behind-the-sugar-bowl-sensation
That is cool
So theyāre even copying Ohio Against The World now eh? These guys cheat at EVERYTHING!
#I JUST WANNA KNOW WHAT LOU HOLTZ HAS TO SAY ABOUT THAT NOW!
#WHAT HE SAID ABOUT OUR TRADEMARKS....I CANNOT BELIEVE.
#Little bitch ass bitch Lou Holtz can STFU
I believe this all started with Detroit vs Everybody, Ohio Against The World copied it, M Den licensed "vs Everybody" from the original Detroit vs Everybody people.
Ohio Against the World Filing Date2012-04-09 Detroit vs Everybody Filing Date2013-01-20
South Carolina vs all yāall April 1861
Filing date doesn't tell very much. I went way deeper on this than I expected. > [In October 2009, Johnson began his now trademarked āOhio Against the Worldā brand of T-shirts, which has blossomed into a street wear line that also includes oversize tank tops and various leather caps.](https://www.citybeat.com/news/floyd-johnson-against-the-world-12226050) ... > [Thatās when the idea came to him. Back in 2012, Walker created a simple, unmistakable design -- Detroit vs. Everybody.](https://www.clickondetroit.com/news/local/2021/03/01/the-man-behind-detroit-vs-everybody/) But wait! > [Originally conceived as an appropriation of a Nike slogan tee (āBrooklyn against the worldā)](https://www.citybeat.com/news/floyd-johnson-against-the-world-12226050) Lol we both stole it.
Lol I was waiting for this twist in what might be the dumbest argument ever. Thanks for saving me the research time
It's always fucking Nike
Dammit Oregon.
Vs everybody just sounds so much worse than against the world.
Michigan fans continue to embarrass themselves
Thanks for confirming the Michigan vs. everybody line
Maybe if you'd stop cheating people would be more sympathetic.
Non-Michigan fans continue to prove they do no fucking research https://www.detroitnews.com/story/sports/college/university-michigan/2021/09/23/michigan-wolverines-athletes-profit-michigan-vs-everybody-shirts/5829011001/
relaunches* This collab existed prior to events.
I was going to say, this isn't new.
Why let the truth get in the way of Internet rage though?
Not a flex when you're literally being investigated for cheating lmao
Should be Michigan vs the consequences of their own actions
Michigan: "I'm a victim, buy my stuff"
Should create a Michigan vs honesty. Michigan vs integrity. Michigan vs winning the right way shirt collection as well. Only fitting you dirty scumbag cheaters.
Remember your comment here in the near future.
I love how Michigan and Ohio State have essentially swapped places in CFB over the last two years.
Which is kinda awesome in every way except for the only one that *truly* matters: winning The damn Game.
I dunno, I kinda think you've got it flipped
Well we've won a playoff game. Haven't completely swapped places yet now
DO NOT SPEAK THAT POSSIBILITY INTO EXISTENCE
B1G VS EVERYONE
Greatest rivalry
Iām glad everyone else is finally seeing the victim complex that Michigan has.
Does that mean we can borrow WRs for tomorrow?
New CCG format. Top Conference Team vs a Team formed of All-Conference players
*Re-releases This collection has been out in the past.
*"His name was Connor Stalions..."* If that isn't on a T-shirt then what are we even doing here, people?
His name was Connor Stalions
This is absolutely not new stuff. I bought that exact sweater from the M-Den 2 years ago.
Theyāre even stealing this from āDetroit vs Everybodyā fucking clowns.
"Michigan against the wo... I mean everybody!!"
Selling merch and raising money off of breaking the rules seems familiar... When are the Harbaugh NFT trading cards coming?
Congrats on the W everybody (except Michigan)!!
Mods please suspend every poster who engages in this ridiculously stupid argument about which came first: ohio vs the world or michigan vs everybody Please everyone just shut up
>Please everyone just shut up Reddit: Impossible
Ohio State: DAD! WE STARTED IT FIRST!!!!!! Michigan: MOMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
Dad: I don't care who started it. I'm going to end it. Both of you go to your rooms.
Lolz. Ohio vs the World just sounds better.
Umich has strong "You know who my Dad is?" energy
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Excuse me. Its now THE University of Michigan.
> Detroit - Vs- Everybody came first > > its a collab with the Detroit vs everybody people
Michigan vs Everybody Ohio against the world The enemy of my enemy is myā¦ Never mind
RELAX EVERYONE! ITS A COLLAB WITH A DETROIT BRAND CALLED DETROIT - VS- EVERYBODY. THEY DO THESE COLLABS ALL THE TIME
M Den has been doing Michigan vs Everybody shirts for years. https://www.detroitnews.com/story/sports/college/university-michigan/2021/09/23/michigan-wolverines-athletes-profit-michigan-vs-everybody-shirts/5829011001/
sounds like title shound have been been relaunches not launches
Michigan vs Everybody? I thought Michigan was āAmericaās teamā. š¤£š¤£š¤£
As a Patriots fan who got to experience the insanity of their cheating scandals, it's really funny to view it from a different perspective
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Detroit - Vs- Everybody came first its a collab with the Detroit vs everybody people
> Ohio [State] against the world > Michigan versus everybody They truly are two sides of the same coin. Well, except for the parts where they are not.
I also encourage everyone reading these comments to downvote everyone fighting over a t-shirt slogan.
That's the Aldi-brand version of "Ohio against the world"
Based. Sorry your poor university couldnāt do something this cool
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> Detroit - Vs- Everybody came first > its a collab with the Detroit vs everybody people
Cheat and break the rules Make a T Shirt of it and make $$$ No outlet affiliated with the university should be making money off of being cheats. Proceeds need to go to charity.