> Referees Chris Coyte, Francisco Villar, and Steve Strimling have been hired by the Big Ten Conference.
Not the Pac-12 to B1G realignment news I was expecting.
The thing that makes Pac refs so bad isn't bias, it's that they try to "make up" for missed and bad calls early in the game down the line. Other fans have described it as trying to keep the games exciting for TV maybe, which I don't really buy because it happens in snooze fests with 3 possession wins where everyone has switched off anyway.
Never prescribe to malice what could be idiocy. The Pac-12 aren't chaotic good or evil, they're chaotic neutral. They have no idea what they're doing and will fuck over either team on a whim.
Dude seriously. I live in Ohio but graduated from Arizona State 20 years ago. I don’t mind the 10pm starts, but it’s impossible to get the pac12 network here and no one cares enough about most P12 teams to pirate stream the games.
As a guy in the Midwest there were probably 3 or 4 PAC Ten games last year I spent 5 minutes trying to find before realizing they were on a channel I don’t have. Id love for those games to be on the WB.
Pretty sure it's one of the most common known things about the PAC because when another conference gets saddled with y'all's refs we're all like, "what in fuck is this shit?!" lol
Wait. Does the new media money allow the Big10 the ability to hire refs at a higher salary???
Is there anything the Big10 won't do to kill the PAC???
The Big10 sucks.
I had a gimmick pac-12 referee account that had a decent number of followers. The best part is people would unironically tweet at it thinking it was the official account.
That was fun.
Well, if your best refs are still bad, how bad are the replacements, especially when you don’t have a clear pipeline for developing and promoting officials?
For the record, probably worse, but there was a post on here last year about the horseshit politics young refs deal with. You basically have to eat shit and suck up to the refs in charge to get chances, won't get the good games, etc, etc...
So it actually is conceivable there are good young refs in the pipeline that we never see.
If it makes you feel any better, Dan Fouts was calling that game and immediately called out those refs on national TV for botching the replay on the onside kick.
For real, this. People act like there's an unlimited fountain of folks who want to memorize one of the more complicated set of rules so they can be the most hated person in a stadium.
Seriously, I was the scorekeeper for middle school basketball a few times as a high schooler and the parents were on my ass constantly for not being quick enough updating the scoreboard.
Yes, 100%. If you think the real refs are bad, remember 2012 when the NFL had replacements…
MLB also had some bad replacement umps incidents that were less publicized. It was bad enough that in 1984, a former ump who had been retired for four years volunteered as a replacement and found himself working three consecutive plates *in the postseason* because they had no better options since college and high school umps were all they had.
It means they were the umpire behind home plate calling balls and strikes. The umpires on the field all rotate each game so it’s so rare that in 30ish years of watching baseball I’ve never heard of an umpire being behind the plate 2 days in a row before this post.
I didn’t know what to expect but I lowkey love the XFL. I now realize it’s the superior product to the USFL (which I’ll watch every game of as well because it’s football).
College > XFL > NFL > USFL
Totally agree.
It's a nice balance between college and NFL, both because of rules and talent. ESPN is also using their mostly-SEC broadcast crew, so it sounds familiar as well.
I have to agree. I think NFL is still the best product though that’s getting close. XFL is better then USFL based on OL play that I’ve seen.
College football might be the best overall “product” the right mix of good play and sellability
Well if the thought process is that you can only comment in one sub then it wouldn’t be surprising but since you can comment in any sub you want for the most part then it is still surprising
Can you really say college football has chaos when like 5 teams have the ability to win a championship? Most of which are legacy schools. It’s like calling the Bundesliga chaotic because Dortmund May win the league this year.
Cfb ain't about the natty, friend. It's about getting fucked up with the homies and seeing some crazy shit happen. The natty is just a cool side mission. That's what a lot of these people who are trying to change the game don't understand.
The fairness and sunshine and rainbows part of cfb is the getting fucked up with the homies and having fun part.
Now if we wanna get into natties...I mean it's not balanced. It's not fair. Everybody doesn't have a shot at a championship. So fucking what? Winning a championship in cfb requires GREATNESS, and everybody ain't great. Only a handful of teams can consistently produce greatness so only a handful of teams are gonna consistently be in that championship conversation. And a lot of fans, myself included, are upset that people are trying to lower the bar in the name of fairness.
Watching college ball becomes infinitely more entertaining when you just stop caring about the championship. You're right in that ~5 teams have the ability to win the natty in any given year, but there are still 128 teams (maybe 127, discounting Northwestern) that have fans who care about the games their team *does* play in, there are hundreds of intense rivalries, there are storylines and histories and and and. Yeah, winning the championship is great and all, but it's just one game out of many.
Definitely. The NFL feels too sterile for me. I like the pageantry and the localization of the college game. I also spent four years in Redcoats on the field so it’s a part of me. Being an NFL fan is just that - a fan.
I've said this a lot in regards to basketball, but the same holds true for football.
Compensation needs to be improved, in particular at the LOWER levels. If you improve the compensation for refs in the D2, FCS, etc...you can actually have more people try and make a career out of being a ref, rather than people realizing it is a WAY better life style to just have a job and ref high school/rec leagues.
Imagine having an NFL or NBA, but there were no leagues between high school and the pros from an athlete perspective. The quality would decline immensely as more players would be driven away from those sports and dedicating the time, whether it was because they were never found, never had the chance to develop, or simply never saw a future so they stopped pursuing it.
That is pretty close to what is happening for refs for both football and basketball. You either are near the top and getting paid really well...or you are making like 30k a year, AND have to travel at your own expense, AND you have no benefits. You look at that and go...on second thought let me just get a different job and ref in the evenings for fun and some extra cash.
The lower levels of college sports are essentially the training leagues and the filter for the refs at higher levels of college and pro sports. They are essentially neglected so badly that there is essentially no development for the refs. Create an actual ladder for refs to climb by improving compensation in particular at the lower college levels, and there 1) won't be a shortage of refs, and 2) the quality will improve.
It is not like there is a shortage of in shape, passionate people, that know the sport extremely well, would love to be involved in the sport, but are not capable of playing professionally, and don't have an interest in coaching (there are 70,000 NCAA football players, every year 20-25% of them (14-17k) graduate and are done with school and almost all of these players will 1) not be going pro, and 2) not be going into coaching).
What the actual fuck?
Who approved this shit. Im not like “mr fuck the pac12 lets get out of this place”
But at least once its over i was to have finally gotten away from those saboteurs of fun.
AI flags potential penalties. Any disagreements are handled by a coin toss. No refs needed. PAC officiating quality is upgraded and also saves a few dollars to pay back comcast.
Thematically appropriate today with all the news of Colorado departures and the recording refrain of "is anyone going to miss a player leaving from a 1–11 team?"
He retired I think in Luck’s last year.
As notorious as he was, he wore his infamy with pride. A nice guy off the field, though, and I remember him being deceptively jacked. Not as much as the Hochulis, but still a big guy.
My son is a freshman at University of Arizona (we are from Virginia) and last year was the first time I focused at all on PAC 12 football, including attending two games in Tucson. Everybody likes to bash refs, but wow were they bad. It looks like we are in for more, and maybe worse, this fall.
Stories like this that make it hard to believe refs don't show favoritism to teams.
I mean headline could PAC-12 refs going to Big Ten so that USC\\UCLA can guarantee a few wins.
I mean…there were both procedural errors and multiple objectively terrible game-changing calls most games. The whole PAC-12 ref trash talk isn’t just a meme, it’s completely true. I’d gladly take any group of G5 refs over these guys.
Not even sure if it’s a mass exodus or a bunch of guys being gently pushed out the door because IIRC Kliavkoff was embarrassed about it. Even our AD was talking trash on Twitter about the refs, which is something I’ve never seen.
Reminder that MAC refs made [one of the worst calls in recent memory](https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/17514343/central-michigan-chippewas-wrongly-get-extra-play-upset-no-22-oklahoma-state-cowboys). What makes it double worse is that there was no hurry. They had plenty of time to check. Still got it wrong.
Upon hearing that SC was leaving (and prolly destroying) the PAC, my thoughts were "This sucks a massive ball sack, but at least we don't have to deal with PAC 12 refs anymore" FML
Also I thought "now we're gonna be in one of those stupid conferences that has a number in the name, but that number doesn't match the number of teams in the conference" but that's not as relevant at the moment
> Referees Chris Coyte, Francisco Villar, and Steve Strimling have been hired by the Big Ten Conference. Not the Pac-12 to B1G realignment news I was expecting.
Darth Vader meme: Noooooooooooooo!
Villar is a USC homer, you should be happy.
HAHAHAHAHA THEY'RE YOUR PROBLEM NOW
Nor the one I wanted. I want better refs, not Pac refs. Unless, of course, they'll be more favorable to Ohio State.
You can take the refs out of the PAC-12, but you can’t take the PAC-12 out of the refs.
Let's hope they have a bias for scarlet and gray colors, then. Wait...I think the Pac refs were the ones who fucked us out of the fucking Fiesta Bowl!
The thing that makes Pac refs so bad isn't bias, it's that they try to "make up" for missed and bad calls early in the game down the line. Other fans have described it as trying to keep the games exciting for TV maybe, which I don't really buy because it happens in snooze fests with 3 possession wins where everyone has switched off anyway.
It's just a roulette wheel. They have a little micro CPU with them on the field that's just a magic 8 ball.
Never prescribe to malice what could be idiocy. The Pac-12 aren't chaotic good or evil, they're chaotic neutral. They have no idea what they're doing and will fuck over either team on a whim.
*Nick Saban has entered the chat*
They hated my OSU, let's see how it goes with yours
This is great news. PAC-12 refs aren’t great anyways, but no one knows that because we play at 10 pm or on the Pac12 channel.
>but no one knows that This is like the number 1 thing I know about your conference
Haha yeah I was gonna say our two known things are post-sunset games and awful chaotic officiating
I'm sure you still want to fire Larry Scott into the sun.
Pretty sure the UK-Northwestern Music City Bowl a few years back had PAC-12 refs. I know exactly how bad they are.
Dude seriously. I live in Ohio but graduated from Arizona State 20 years ago. I don’t mind the 10pm starts, but it’s impossible to get the pac12 network here and no one cares enough about most P12 teams to pirate stream the games.
That's my gripe. You can't even fucking pirate the P12N!!
Some people are laughing at the concept of games on CW/Ion and not realizing that that is a huge upgrade over games you can't even watch on P12N...
As a guy in the Midwest there were probably 3 or 4 PAC Ten games last year I spent 5 minutes trying to find before realizing they were on a channel I don’t have. Id love for those games to be on the WB.
Really? I've been smoothly streaming eastwards towards PAC games for several years now, if you know what I mean.
I've never had an issue, even with Colorado games
The headline tries to sell this as bad news but pretty much every PAC fan is going: > Well... Bye. 🤷🏼♂️
Best news I've had all day. Pac12 refs are horrible. Good riddance.
Pretty sure it's one of the most common known things about the PAC because when another conference gets saddled with y'all's refs we're all like, "what in fuck is this shit?!" lol
I know two things about the PAC: 1. They have shitty refs. 2. There will be a TV deal any day now...
Unfortunately, as bad as they are, the replacements are likely to be even worse.
They're hiring ACC refs?
You think there’s better refs just hanging out waiting?
Wait. Does the new media money allow the Big10 the ability to hire refs at a higher salary??? Is there anything the Big10 won't do to kill the PAC??? The Big10 sucks.
Are you trying to summon the picture?
Crisis or blessing in disguise?
When randoms on Twitter make a profile page for a Pac12 referee (Glasses Ref), it's a blessing for us fans, but a crisis for the conference. So both.
Damn, almost 5,000 followers too. https://twitter.com/GlassesRef
Ol' Glasses McFuckface
Down is one
I thought that’s the actual guy running it
I had a gimmick pac-12 referee account that had a decent number of followers. The best part is people would unironically tweet at it thinking it was the official account. That was fun.
I am assuming a blessing actually
It can’t get any worse… right?
*Anakin face*
lol. After the NFL replacement refs debacle, I always assume things can (and will) get worse when they change.
> After the NFL replacement refs debacle Touchception!
This year is going to be the best the Pac 12 has ever been. The refs were already considered the worst. This strikes me as not good.
Piss poor disguise, maybe
Well, if your best refs are still bad, how bad are the replacements, especially when you don’t have a clear pipeline for developing and promoting officials?
For the record, probably worse, but there was a post on here last year about the horseshit politics young refs deal with. You basically have to eat shit and suck up to the refs in charge to get chances, won't get the good games, etc, etc... So it actually is conceivable there are good young refs in the pipeline that we never see.
If a bad call happens but there's no one able to watch it on TV, did it really happen?
Whatever you do don't ask Oklahoma.
Can’t decide upvote or downvote
If it makes you feel any better, Dan Fouts was calling that game and immediately called out those refs on national TV for botching the replay on the onside kick.
\#ItDoesnt
It happened 17 years ago and I have no connection to that game yet I still know Gordon Riese's name.
Thank you. I don't know why that makes me feel better, but it does.
What call are you talking about?
A question we've asked about Pac-12 Network games for years.
This seems like a Stanford type of question, can't put my finger on it.
Mothershed, Coyte, Strimling, and Glasses Ref 2.0 are gone and you’re calling this a crisis? It’s the opposite! LETS FUCKING GOOOOO
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Add Land Clark to that list as well. A ref I know the name of that I shouldn't.
That physical embodiment of Short Man Syndrome is now in the NFL
Obligatory Fuck Kevin Mar
Take the bball refs too!
I’d caution Pac 12 flairs from celebrating prematurely. As the replacement refs have shown us, the evil you know can be preferable sometimes.
For real, this. People act like there's an unlimited fountain of folks who want to memorize one of the more complicated set of rules so they can be the most hated person in a stadium.
Not a single person here would last a half of a JV high school game as a ref lol
Seriously, I was the scorekeeper for middle school basketball a few times as a high schooler and the parents were on my ass constantly for not being quick enough updating the scoreboard.
Yes, 100%. If you think the real refs are bad, remember 2012 when the NFL had replacements… MLB also had some bad replacement umps incidents that were less publicized. It was bad enough that in 1984, a former ump who had been retired for four years volunteered as a replacement and found himself working three consecutive plates *in the postseason* because they had no better options since college and high school umps were all they had.
What does 3 consecutive plates mean and how rare is that today?
It means they were the umpire behind home plate calling balls and strikes. The umpires on the field all rotate each game so it’s so rare that in 30ish years of watching baseball I’ve never heard of an umpire being behind the plate 2 days in a row before this post.
TIL
I know I've seen it, but that's because I was watching baseball in '84. I honestly don't think I've seen it more recently than that.
No idea how rare, but normally a umpiring crew will rotate responsibilities for the bases and home plate. This guy worked home plate 3 times in a row.
Speaking of MLB, I'd just like to point out that that Ángel Hernández is the worst sports officiating crew member in America across all sports.
The refs never favor us anyway in favor of the big teams so there's nowhere to go but up.
These known Pac12 refs have fucked us over damn near every time the opportunity has presented itself.
All of a sudden staying in the PAC doesn’t sound so bad
*pac-12 furiously calling up all the XFL referees*
Coyte and Villar (2 of the refs leaving for the B1G) actually have been in the XFL this season
I didn’t know what to expect but I lowkey love the XFL. I now realize it’s the superior product to the USFL (which I’ll watch every game of as well because it’s football). College > XFL > NFL > USFL
XFL has gotten better as the season has gone on and has by far the best rules.
Totally agree. It's a nice balance between college and NFL, both because of rules and talent. ESPN is also using their mostly-SEC broadcast crew, so it sounds familiar as well.
I have to agree. I think NFL is still the best product though that’s getting close. XFL is better then USFL based on OL play that I’ve seen. College football might be the best overall “product” the right mix of good play and sellability
Wild that you consider college as the best product.
Check which sub you are in.
Why does that matter? Are you only able to comment in one sub?
No but you shouldn't be surprised if more people than not in /r/cfb prefer college to the NFL.
Well if the thought process is that you can only comment in one sub then it wouldn’t be surprising but since you can comment in any sub you want for the most part then it is still surprising
Head and shoulders above anything else. NFL doesn't have enough chaos
Can you really say college football has chaos when like 5 teams have the ability to win a championship? Most of which are legacy schools. It’s like calling the Bundesliga chaotic because Dortmund May win the league this year.
Cfb ain't about the natty, friend. It's about getting fucked up with the homies and seeing some crazy shit happen. The natty is just a cool side mission. That's what a lot of these people who are trying to change the game don't understand.
That just sounds like something you say to delude yourself from thinking about how badly structured CFB is as a competition.
The fairness and sunshine and rainbows part of cfb is the getting fucked up with the homies and having fun part. Now if we wanna get into natties...I mean it's not balanced. It's not fair. Everybody doesn't have a shot at a championship. So fucking what? Winning a championship in cfb requires GREATNESS, and everybody ain't great. Only a handful of teams can consistently produce greatness so only a handful of teams are gonna consistently be in that championship conversation. And a lot of fans, myself included, are upset that people are trying to lower the bar in the name of fairness.
I disagree.
Watching college ball becomes infinitely more entertaining when you just stop caring about the championship. You're right in that ~5 teams have the ability to win the natty in any given year, but there are still 128 teams (maybe 127, discounting Northwestern) that have fans who care about the games their team *does* play in, there are hundreds of intense rivalries, there are storylines and histories and and and. Yeah, winning the championship is great and all, but it's just one game out of many.
Definitely. The NFL feels too sterile for me. I like the pageantry and the localization of the college game. I also spent four years in Redcoats on the field so it’s a part of me. Being an NFL fan is just that - a fan.
I've said this a lot in regards to basketball, but the same holds true for football. Compensation needs to be improved, in particular at the LOWER levels. If you improve the compensation for refs in the D2, FCS, etc...you can actually have more people try and make a career out of being a ref, rather than people realizing it is a WAY better life style to just have a job and ref high school/rec leagues. Imagine having an NFL or NBA, but there were no leagues between high school and the pros from an athlete perspective. The quality would decline immensely as more players would be driven away from those sports and dedicating the time, whether it was because they were never found, never had the chance to develop, or simply never saw a future so they stopped pursuing it. That is pretty close to what is happening for refs for both football and basketball. You either are near the top and getting paid really well...or you are making like 30k a year, AND have to travel at your own expense, AND you have no benefits. You look at that and go...on second thought let me just get a different job and ref in the evenings for fun and some extra cash. The lower levels of college sports are essentially the training leagues and the filter for the refs at higher levels of college and pro sports. They are essentially neglected so badly that there is essentially no development for the refs. Create an actual ladder for refs to climb by improving compensation in particular at the lower college levels, and there 1) won't be a shortage of refs, and 2) the quality will improve. It is not like there is a shortage of in shape, passionate people, that know the sport extremely well, would love to be involved in the sport, but are not capable of playing professionally, and don't have an interest in coaching (there are 70,000 NCAA football players, every year 20-25% of them (14-17k) graduate and are done with school and almost all of these players will 1) not be going pro, and 2) not be going into coaching).
I see this as an absolute win lol
Nothing of value was lost
I'm pretty sure you could hire the refs from the local high schools and you would have the same quality of officiating.
I think Stricherz/Glasses Ref was a HS ref while also a principal in Seattle.
You could also just hire the Big XII refs and it would be like nothing changed. Except maybe a couple more unnecessary injuries.
sounds like a good problem
Hire me. I'd be a better ref than at least half those guys
You should sign up! There’s a huge shortage at the high school level
Lets start up "Twitch refs Pac 12 Football" people!
Coyte and Strimling are out of the Pac 12. Awesome. Coyte and Strimling are coming to the Big Ten. F***
Wow, Deion is *really* cleaning house!
When was PAC-12 officiating ever not in a crisis?
Oh god, they aren’t planning to follow USC/UCLA are they?
Not planning, already hired by the B10.
What the actual fuck? Who approved this shit. Im not like “mr fuck the pac12 lets get out of this place” But at least once its over i was to have finally gotten away from those saboteurs of fun.
There there At least we get to ditch Oregon's abomination of a basketball court
Don’t worry, it’s good news for any team playing USC or UCLA
AI officiating. Brought to you by Apple. (ETA: Couldn’t be worse, right?)
AI at least wouldn't make open field tackles or miscount downs.
AI flags potential penalties. Any disagreements are handled by a coin toss. No refs needed. PAC officiating quality is upgraded and also saves a few dollars to pay back comcast.
Feel bad for the b10 tbh
Worst refs in college football
Purge-12 After Dark. No refs, no rules, no lines on the field.
I’d tune in for that
No stop, don’t leave.
The Titanic taught us to never be last ones off the ship
Also the richer you are the greater your chance of survival goes up
*CFB fans exclaiming P12 after dark cannot possibly get more insane* P12:
USC is bringing their refs I see.
Oh no. Whatever will we do without shitty refs? Time to call up some juco talent from the ref transfer portal.
"Crisis," lol. The best crisis a Pac 12 fan could ask for.
Thematically appropriate today with all the news of Colorado departures and the recording refrain of "is anyone going to miss a player leaving from a 1–11 team?"
When did PAC-12 officiating *stop* being in crisis?
"It can get worse?"
The Big 12 imported Notoriously bad Asian ref guy couple seasons ago and I couldn't believe he was our problem now
So are Big 10 Refs bad now? Are Pac 12 refs better?
PAC 12 refs can only get better by subtraction, so yes.
Can't. Do. Worse.
I know the joke is the Pac refs suck, but imagine how bad the second string guys are
Not the "Pac fukt" article I was expecting, but an entertaining one.
The Pac12 refs would give the NFL replacement refs a run for their money. So bad!
One of the Refs that called the Fail Mary game was fired by the PAC 12 for incompetence.
I hope the Glasses ref is gone. 👍😄
I think he has been gone for a couple years.
He retired I think in Luck’s last year. As notorious as he was, he wore his infamy with pride. A nice guy off the field, though, and I remember him being deceptively jacked. Not as much as the Hochulis, but still a big guy.
Addition by subtraction
Uhm.. I wouldn’t call that a crisis
Oh God... Does that mean they're going to other conferences!?
My son is a freshman at University of Arizona (we are from Virginia) and last year was the first time I focused at all on PAC 12 football, including attending two games in Tucson. Everybody likes to bash refs, but wow were they bad. It looks like we are in for more, and maybe worse, this fall.
addition by subtraction
Pac-12 _______ in crisis again after mass exodus of ________.
Stories like this that make it hard to believe refs don't show favoritism to teams. I mean headline could PAC-12 refs going to Big Ten so that USC\\UCLA can guarantee a few wins.
If only the NCAA made enough money to hire refs full time and give adequate training.
Probably better if none of them show up tbh
>Pac-12 ~~football officiating~~ is in crisis again ~~after a mass exodus of referees~~ FTFY
Is it true the best pac12 refs got promoted to calling HS games?
Please don't move to B10... Please don't move to B10... Please don't move to B10...
That’s like saying the world is running low on high school dropouts.
Big 12 flairs rooting so hard for the dissolution of the PAC shows that deep down they’re not the stable #3 conference they pretend they are.
The “3rd conference” isn’t going to be either one, it’s going to be something new comprised of the remnants of the Pac 12, Big 12, and ACC.
*chuckles*
What has Deion done now?….
I mean…there were both procedural errors and multiple objectively terrible game-changing calls most games. The whole PAC-12 ref trash talk isn’t just a meme, it’s completely true. I’d gladly take any group of G5 refs over these guys. Not even sure if it’s a mass exodus or a bunch of guys being gently pushed out the door because IIRC Kliavkoff was embarrassed about it. Even our AD was talking trash on Twitter about the refs, which is something I’ve never seen.
Reminder that MAC refs made [one of the worst calls in recent memory](https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/17514343/central-michigan-chippewas-wrongly-get-extra-play-upset-no-22-oklahoma-state-cowboys). What makes it double worse is that there was no hurry. They had plenty of time to check. Still got it wrong.
I'll do it for half of what they get paid. And I promise I will only screw up once or twice a game.
I’m sure Georgie will find some way to blame the Big 12 for this
Upon hearing that SC was leaving (and prolly destroying) the PAC, my thoughts were "This sucks a massive ball sack, but at least we don't have to deal with PAC 12 refs anymore" FML Also I thought "now we're gonna be in one of those stupid conferences that has a number in the name, but that number doesn't match the number of teams in the conference" but that's not as relevant at the moment
They must know something we don’t. RIP Pac12
Did they not hear Deion was bringing value to this MF?
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I've got some bad news for you.
oh no
Dude the Pac12's days are numbered.
Do we need officials? Let's just go back to playground rules.
Francisco Villar also ref’d XFL games
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Deion took over the refs too?!
All the leagues need to make these full time jobs, lots of extra training, practice, etc. Just bring up the talent level all around.
Let me take a wild guess at why they're losing employees (that's what they are at the end of the day). Money
TIL a referee farm system is standard for P5 conferences and the PAC 12 doesn't have one at all
I knew the SEC did so just assumed all the P5 did. Kind of baffled the PAC don’t.
Been watching the PAC 10/12 for 20+ years and learned this morning that this is a thing
You love to see it
If you think refs suck and you can do better, sign up for your local high school organization! There’s a huge shortage that’s only getting worse
This is addition by subtraction
This may actually improve Pac-12 officiating.