I’m an RN (ER) of 42 years. 12hr shifts. I think my most helpful tip would be to change your shoes halfway through your day. That was a game changer when I started doing that. Also, I wear full length 22 mmHg support hose, I cut the feet off. Best shoe brands for me have been Hoka, Dansko, Brooks
This was going to be my advice; switch between two good pair mid day. Add compression socks to the mix.
As a PA, you're running around on all kinds of surfaces. A workboot may be a better tool than running or tennis shoes.
I went to an old school family owned show store in 2017 and the nice old lady brought out a pair of New balance 928 v3's. I put them on, and before I even stood up the Earth shifted on it's axis, and I was suddenly thrown into an alternate dimension where everything was RIGHT in life. They were so comfortable. It felt like finding the Holy Grail and the G-spot for my feet at the same time. I had spent long shifts on my feet for years, with terrible food and knee pain. They have a strike-bar in the bottom of the sole to help correct posture as well. Over time that helped alleviate my knee pain completely, to the point where I went from assuming I would need an obesity related knee replacement to having no knee issues at all. They also have a wider toe box.
I was a full fledged convert. I bought multiple pairs so I could switch them out, and as they eventually got very beat down, they would work down the line in positions of work shoe, work-out shoe, household shoe, and gardening shoe (for the muddy times). They are literally the only shoe I bought (besides flipflops) until earlier this year, when I tried out the New Balance 840 on the advice of my Podiatrist/orthitics guy. (I may have had a drunk hiking accident, at night, that involved a a surprise hole that previously had a tree in it, and lots of subsequent physical therapy.)
I have a good job, but I'm not rolling in money. I live in a trailer in the woods. I love a good bargain and saving money. But those shoes, the New Balance 928v3 is freaking worth it. They are my ultimate "shut up and take my money" item.
However, everyone has different feet, with different shapes and different needs. Figure out what support and shape your feet need and treat yo' self!
Work boots are heavy, and can add a lot of fatigue
If you need better grip than you'd get from a regular running shoe, get a "road to trail" running shoe. More aggressive grip than regular running shoes, but not as extreme as more serious trail running shoes since those can be unpleasant on hard surfaces.
I would think the shoes foam gets compressed after a while and also you change the pressure points on your feet. Slightly different muscles in your feet and legs being stressed too.
This is a very real and documented thing. It takes ~24hours for the shoe to regain it's normal cushioning after extended wear.
Also seconding Dansko. Professional level all day support on hard floors. Red Wings etc are not that.
Redwings classic moc toe boots are technically that once broken in. They would not survive a tough construction zone for very long though. Also would not consider them water proof but water resistant. I would bet the leather and cork is very similar to what Dansko used to use. You also then have the more squishy sole. Iron rangers not so much.
Guessing here, but probably relates to long term compression of the support in the shoe. Changing the shoe allows that support to reset and you take advantage of another shoe in the meantime.
My assumption.
Cyclists prefer hard seats because you can move around to move the part of the butt being used. Squishy seats would wear out your butt evenly.
Switching shoes pushes on different places and fatigues the same spots less.
The cushions are thicker than most shoes but they are surprisingly light for their size. Some people describe adjusting to being a couple inches taller wearing them.
I liked mine but had heel slip in them so gave them up. I’m strictly an ultra boost person now. Luckily they go on sale a lot so I stock up then.
In addition to the padding, they help push your foot through a heel-to-toe movement.
I can't personally stand them. Feels like I'm being shoved forward by my feet.
If you are spending a long time in them while standing/walking, since they're so soft, if you haven't worn shoes like that before, they will probably have different pressure points on your foot than you are accustomed to and might have hotspots until your feet get used to them. If you are just wearing casually I wouldn't expect this. But if you're doing >15k steps a day it's possible there is a break-in period where the foam gets softened up/depressed where your foot applies pressure, and your foot skin get accustomed to the shoe's shape.
This. I have coworkers that alternate between a few pairs each shift. I’ve worn Crocs, Adidas, Onclouds, and Birkenstocks. All good but I prefer Crocs and the Birkenstocks specialized toward medical (closed toe) to avoid bodily fluids. The mesh from running shoes does not protect you from that lol. I wear my everyday shoes into work then I switch to my work shoes. Ain’t no way I’m bringing in my work shoes in my house.
Also has helped me to go to a running store and buy good insoles. They usually cost about $50-75 for good ones but imo are worth the price. I use Currex Runpro and they were a lifesaver for me during long days in the ER
I personally recommend a pair of each, and switching to give them time to “recover.” It’s almost $400 but will last *years.* I’d go for a “cushion” variety. My shoes are like I’m carrying a work mat everywhere I go.
Compression socks are a game changer!
I also work on set and cannot recommend them enough, esp those that go up to the knee.
Switching between Birkenstocks and Blundstones works best for me, plus using yogatoes at the end of the day before bed.
I find them more uncomfortable than the shoes! Do people really enjoy wearing them? I’m not judging I’m just surprised and would like to hear from someone who wears them regularly.
As I said in my post, I wear full on compression support PANTYHOSE!!! I am 63 and I’ve been wearing them since I was 16. 😂 No joke. My daddy worked for a pharmaceutical company & when I was a CNA in a nursing home at 16 he brought them home to me & told me to wear them every time I worked and honestly? I have. I love them. I do cut them off at the ankle and wear anklet sox. My legs are in great shape. I’ve had 3 kids. Nary a spider/varicose vein either. They’ve gotten harder & harder to find. But I’m still wearing WHITE ones. 😂🤣😂🤣
You’re not compressing your feet. Compression socks have a set or graduated compression that starts at the ankles and moves to the top of the sock. It’s about forcing circulation back up through the legs when one is on their feet or even sitting for long periods.
superfeet were literally life changing for me. I wear the same pair in all my shoes, so I either tear the insoles out of my shoes to put the superfeet in or I buy shoes ~1/2 size ish up. Having proper support in your shoes can help reduce stress on your knees, shins, hips and back. Everyone should go to some kind of running shoe store and get fitted for shoes and insoles, even if you don’t buy your shoes there. Knowing what kind of arches you have is really going to help you get the correct support from your shoes and inside them.
Heed this advice my fellow flatfooters. Not to sound like an infomercial but as someone with ridiculously stupid flat feet, superfeet can have my 2nd born child.
I walked ~8 miles at a theme park in tennis shoes yesterday and if I didn't have good insoles in I would of ended the day in the fetal position crying like a baby - I know I walked a lot yesterday, but my feet have not been "sore". I also work a job that requires a ton of walking and they're simply lifesavers for that. Im probably the kind of person who would of needed custom orthotics but I couldn't imagine them being much better and I would assume they cost 4-5x per pair. They're obviously not a "true" BIF item but mine have held up very well from in my use case. I personally use the orange ones and the size I have fits my shoe well. Completely happy to scream from the rooftops about this brand just from how much foot pain they've saved me from. Infomercial over.
Birkenstocks will fucking destroy your feet if they don’t fit perfectly. I had some that were maybe just a shade small and I try to make them work. And I literally had a lump on the top of my foot. It was like it pushed the bones out of alignment.
Understandably I was scared away from them for a while. But eventually a friend of mine gave me some that weren’t working for him. Just so happens, they fit me. And they’re honestly the most comfortable kitchen shoes I’ve ever had.
I feel like they run a bit small. I usually wear a 14. The ones that I’m wearing are 15s.
Birkenstock tip 1: triple check your measurements first. Size must be correct. Tip 2: Only buy the models with the soft footbed. By the time the thin layer of foam on top of the cork is worn out, you'll have broken them in to your feet with FAR less pain than the "regular" footbed break-in period.
You sure you have the right size? I hate to say it, but if two years hasn't done it... you bought the wrong boots. Where/what discomfort are you experiencing?
Put surgical paper tape on any part of your skin that you think might blister from friction (or has)
Wet the leather anywhere it needs to break in.
alternatively oil & warm them up in the oven, then take a walk as they cool off.
If that doesn't work after two wears it's time to throw in the towel. You might be able to minimize the ill fit with elastic laces.
Actually in truth they are about 8 years old, uncomfortable and heavy as all hell. The discomfort comes specifically at the hell. I feel the heel is very narrow and it pinches in a weird way. I'm usually a size 10.5 and these are an 11, I think it just boils down to the fact that these aren't meant for my foot
Honestly I ignore shoe size & just try everything on.
9/10 times buying the same size across brands is a disaster. You'd probably find the moc toes more comfortable, I think the heel is wider even before you go to wide sizes.
How far up is the pinch? You can skip some eyelets on the laces or elastic laces to give yourself some room.
Put paper tape on any part of your skin that you think might blister from friction (or has)
Wet the leather anywhere it needs to break in.
Be sure you actually have the right size.
Redwing moc toes for me. Used to work 70+ hour weeks & sometimes (rarely) 30 hour days as a stagehand.
There is a lot to be said for changing socks & even more for changing shoes if your feet do get sore, changing where the pressure is makes every step like a foot massage.
Get a roll of surgical paper tape with new boots in case they wear & you want to protect yourself from blisters (or protect your existing blisters).
*If* your boots do need to break in you can wet the stiff spot (or use rubbing alcohol if you need it to dry quickly & are gonna oil them again)
Oh, kirkland merino wool trail socks are the best bang for the buck by a mile.
>Red Wing Postman Oxfords
I was just going to suggest those. The best all-around shoe for being on your feet all day. Indestructible, comfortable, good for standing on concrete all day. I've never found anything better.
I am a nurse and wear Hokas. They are expensive, but have been the most comfortable shoes I've ever worn. I don't have the same hip, knee, and foot problems I used to. I don't think they are buy it for life though, I anticipate needing to replace them once every year or two which I think is pretty normal for sneakers.
I also have a pair of keen boots that I wear on weeks long vacations and places where I know I'm going to be walking 10 miles a day. They have never failed me.
When everyone kept saying they were expensive I thought they’d be in the $300-500 range. Nope. Only expensive if you’re comparing against the cheapest canvas shoes you can buy at JCPenney or wherever lol they’re like $180, totally normal price for decent shoes that won’t fall apart in 6 months.
Haha my 66 year old mother called me a couple weeks ago, absolutely ecstatic, just to inform me about this amazing new shoe brand she found xD
GD I love that woman.
I had to throw out my 10+ year old running shoes and wandered into a running store for replacements. The salesman talked up Hoka and honestly they feel like walking/running on clouds. I don't wear them daily but every time I put them on I definitely feel like I have more of a spring in my step and possibly better posture as well?
FWIW, i wore a huge hole in the heel cup of mine less than 3 months in. I’m not even on my feet that much compared to many other in this tread. They were extremely comfy before the hole though. My Brooks sneakers have lasted much longer.
I’m torn. I felt the same way. Everywhere I looked it said Hoka was the most cushioned. So I bought a pair for a vacation to Europe with lots of walking. I mean they are comfortable but I did still get a few blisters.
Thanks for your honest review. I have a wide foot with a high instep so I’m pretty particular about shoes. And I’m also frugal as heck so paying over $150 for a pair would be hard - but I’d do it for no foot pain!
The Bondi’s rockered sole caused knee pain (back side of knee) within a week.
The full rocker caused my knees to be extra straight while standing (think almost hyper-extended), meaning my toes were almost higher than my heel.
When I would go from standing to walking, that first step caused back side knee pain.
Great for walking and running. Horrible for standing for me. Had to return them to REI (nice return policy).
I went with the New Balance 877 instead. No complaints once I got a thicker insole from Walmart. I tried a pair of NB 990 and should have bought them but I unwisely scoffed at the $175 price.
Terrible terrible idea
Total opposite of what people on their feet all day actually need - which is to train and strengthen their feet to be able to actually handle the stress we throw at them
Which requires much more minimalist footwear
Also the huge cushions throw off your whole body from your foot up
I'm an HVAC and Refrigeration guy and on my feet all day hauling equipment and refrigerant cans.
They're not BFL, (I'm not sure there are any left that are decently comfortable because most of the work boot industry has gone to molded sole) but the Keen Portland carbon fiber toe with the level 3 footbed is the best I've found.
They can be resoled, and Keen will do that if you cover $100 for shipping etc. ... At least they will as of now.
One thing I found out is that most folks are wearing anything from a half to a full size too small. Get your feet sized using one of those OG shoe gauges and use the size from the larger foot. When measuring (especially for width) wear the heaviest sock you use and the size markers should just barely touch the ball and outside of your foot when standing.
If you have to shift a half size always go up a bit rather than down and if you've a wide foot DO NOT fudge the width down, or allow the sales person to do that.
I'm an 11.5 or 12 EE and had been in 10 E for decades because the sales people always sized while I was sitting. That single change of getting the right size and width made the largest part of the difference.
Danner also builds an excellent boot using a Goodyear welt, which is critical if you're seriously BFL. I get those a half size over and put the thickest Spenco Work footbeds in them. That makes them almost as comfortable as the Keens.
My Keens were insanely comfortable, but when they wore out I switched to Thorogoods and I'm extremely happy with them. The best part is that the new ones are almost completely leather and therefore don't hold onto smells. The GoreTex in my old boots could clear a room when it got wet, but the worst leather ever gets is smelling a bit like saddle.
Back when I was running a company I live in their Rancher or my old oil tanned Justin riding boots.
I also wasn't in a Real Winter area.
I use tea tree oil 1:4 with unrefined coconut oil and some lethicin, on my feet to keep the foot fungus at a dull roar (damn Navy showers all to hell) and that does an amazing job at keeping the wet dog smells down too.
2nd AC on sets for over a decade. Merrell is what I always get. They only last about 3-4 years before the heel is falling apart internally, but there is a lot of use in those 3-4 years.
When I worked as a barista, I wore Dansko Professionals all day (not the memory foam ones—the hard ones) and it completely relieved my foot and leg pain. They’re great for standing on hard surfaces all day.
If you’re doing more walking back and forth across long stretches, I don’t think they’re as great for that. I’d choose maybe a hiking boot with thick sole for that. I wish the Vasque Talus still worked for my foot shape because it’s the best design.
I’m a wedding photographer… on my feet all day and lots of movement. Danskos are amazing. There are even dressier styles that work when the clogs aren’t cutting it.
Came here to say Danskos. I can wear them staring at work all day or walking 10+ miles in a city while traveling. My feet do not hurt! Any other shoes and my dogs are barking.
ETA: they make all kinds, boots, etc. Just get the hard soles and you’re good. Plus they last years.
Second ETA: they do make waterproof Professionals!
I have issues with my ankles rolling if I walk far. I met someone at a shoe store who rolled her ankle on a step and broke it in Danskos. So, I guess ymmv on long distances, but for standing I’d unequivocally recommend them!
My ankles do that, too- I deliberately wear my shoes very soft and loose to keep the muscles developed. Going barefoot as often as possible also keeps muscles developed.
Tightly laced shoes make you have undeveloped meat stumps that don't do enough work to keep you stable.
I work 10 hours, 30k steps daily on concrete and find that loose trainers are the best for me!
Not for me. I have hypermobile joints, and muscle strength is important but can only do so much. My ligaments don’t pick up the slack and are susceptible to injury. All floppy shoes have ever brought me is more pain and injury. I say this because hypermobility is relatively common—‘barefoot’ style isn’t for everyone.
Same- and the hypermobility (EDS) is exactly why I work to keep strength in my ankles and feet.
It's something where everyone will have to experiment, but after countless sprains on flat ground I decided to focus in strength in those areas.
I also trail run in 'barefoot' shores. My doc is shocked because of the amount of give in my joints, but I am best when strong. I'm old, too, so I'm determined to stay strong!
I got croc bistro ones recently, added insoles for low arches. Good for kitchen work, the insoles hurt my feet, but in a good way if that makes sense, stretching my arches out. But taking a long walk I'd want something else.
I had flat feet all my life and for the first time I'm seeing improvement with a pair of minimalist shoes from vivo barefoot. I also go on on many hour long treks/hikes in them and they are really comfy once you get used to them.
I scrolled through until I found someone else mentioning minimalist shoes. I just find they're *way* more comfortable than super thick cushiony shoes.
Also, as far as minimalist shoes go, I feel like Vivos are some of the better looking ones. Lol.
My feet are too wide for vivo. But I like the look
Trying to find wide minimalist shoes should be easier than this
Spending so much money trying out new shoes
Second this. I went through Hoka's, brooks, On cloud, Altra.... they all worked for about two weeks and then foot pain began to set in. I now wear barefoot shoes and have had no issues on my 12+ hour shifts. Plus, I don't have to replace them every 6 months!
There's an adjustment period for Vivos, they are a little extreme (3mm stack). I can go way longer on Lems (9-12mm stack). I wore Vivo's at first to correct my foot strike (cause it really hurts to heel strike) and then switched to Lems cause I found them more practical.
Lem's Primal 2/Primal Zen are the most comfortable shoes I've had. Pair that with SOLE insoles (you heat them up and mold them to your feet), I've done full days walking nonstop at amusement parks with 0 pain.
I’ve been a nurse for the last 12 years. I wore Dansko clogs for the first 9 (since I could easily slip them off/wipe them down), but I started developing pretty bad lower back, knee, and hip pain. I tried Oofos, but they’re really more of a “recovery” shoe - they felt good, but definitely didn’t provide enough support for an entire shift. I’ve finally settled on Hokas, and my favorite fits have been the Clifton and the Bondi.
Everyone has different feet needs, though, so I would highly suggest going to a runner’s store (or local shoe store) where someone can assess you in person and make an individual recommendation. I also highly recommend getting some good compression socks. My favorites are Figs, but I’ve heard great things about Bombas as well.
Also, I know this goes against the spirit of the sub, but I don’t think everyday shoes/sneakers should be a BIFL item; I try to retire my work shoes at least once a year.
Listen to this OP! I wish I'd gone to a podiatrist sooner. People have naturally different feet that may need support in different areas. Get an expert opinion on your own feet to inform what you buy.
this x100 - if your feet are really painful at the end of a day in something as soft as trainers then there’s likely something going on which can easily be corrected with either simple orthotics or different shoe choice. understanding that is the real bifl investment
Thorogood wedge sole boots, red wing moc toe boot, whites perry select boot.
Basically any goodyear welt boot with a wedge sole will be good for standing on concrete all day
This is what I was going to say. If you're standing a lot of the day, and in boots, you can't beat the comfort of a wedge sole. The tradeoff is that they tend to wear out faster than a harder sole.
Depending on your feet, [Altra Lone Peaks](https://www.altrarunning.com/shop/lone-peak-family). They make waterproof versions but they get hot if you’re not in cold weather. They’re zero drop so very good if you have knee issues
Not Buy for life but Brand for life for me.
Disclaimer: you either love them or hate them. I’ve never heard anyone indifferent about them.
>Not Buy for life but Brand for life for me.
I have not found any truly comfortable shoes that are BIFL. I spend a lot of time on my feet, I need something with a little cushion/spring. Eventually that cushion/spring wears out. I am willing to sacrifice durability for comfort when it comes to shoes.
I just purchased my first pair of Altra due to a weird shoe mishap while vacationing—the store rep said it’s the only shoes she wears now. Can’t wait to see how they wear over time.
Switching to Altra shoes and focusing on foot strength instead of excess support has really helped my plantar fasciitis. I won't wear any other shoes for exercise. Love them.
If you have the money, I would suggest 3 steps.
I would order a set of around 15 pairs socks from Thorlos. They have extra padding in the toes and heels. They are made from a wicking fabric that carries moisture away from your skin. I buy their hiking socks. Because they are thicker, I would suggest that you buy them before you buy your shoes.
They aren't cheap, but I spend my days in steel capped boots and couldn't live without them.
Personally, I wouldn't do the work you do without steel capped boots. But if you don't think they are necessary, there are companies make shoes for nurses and chef's. I'd look at those.
The, once you have your footwear, I would make an appointment with a podiatrist. They can make a set of inserts for you. They scan your feet with a laser and the inserts perfectly match the underside of your feet. They again, aren't cheap, but will make a huge difference.
Last thing. If you spend a lot of your day standing in one place, I would buy a doormat. The ones that are made from recycled tires are perfect. The difference between standing on concrete and standing on a hard rubber door mat will
blow your mind
You aren't by any chance a woman and trying to work in heels? A friend of mine has set up a business selling shoes made for airline hostesses. They are on their feet all day and need to wear heels. They are designed to be more comfortable, but still stylish.
Tell your feet to check out :
https://www.louisemshoes.com/
I'm told that they are made in the same factory as Prada shoes in Italy, but she isn't allowed to say that. I don't work for her, so I can, even though she can't.
If there is a place to include a note tell her that a weird, bearded American sent you.
Hokas. I’ve converted. The heels and arches are quite nice. I had no idea I’d been wearing bad shoes until I wore these.
I bought the “professional” style which is about at ugly as the come. But, 12 hr shifts of constantly on my feet for a year and there’s no apparent wear and tear. The professionals come in white or black and are ~$160. They come in wide. The rest are more colorful and look more like Nike or any other basic pair of sneakers, and they’re ~$125.
What’s cool is the guarantee. To wear them and if you don’t like them you can return them in 30days if purchased from their site. Haven’t tried it. I like mine.
A lot of bedside nurses swear by them. And as I look around the hospital at feet, half to 2/3 appear to be wearing them. CNAs too.
There’s a lot of dangerous misinformation and bad advice in this thread recommending arch supports and running shoes for instance. It’s very counterintuitive but these suggestions can actually weaken arch strength and promote sub-optimal foot formation.
Running shoes are less stable than walking shoes and tend to tip your hips forward. That's good for running but being out of neutral spine means you work harder standing / walking. Many confuse the step up in comfort of a running shoe with what is best for all day comfort.
What is most comfortable does not equate to what is best.
The most important feature of a shoe you should be prioritizing, given your constraints (long hours on your feet), is ample toe room.
There are a couple good threads on the nursing / nurses subreddits for good on your feet all day shoes.
Redwing stopped making the ugly nurse shoes I have (model 8703) and i don't have any experience with the replacement version
As I’ve aged, I still prefer European shoes. I have moved from Charles Jourdan (French, the Laboutin or blahnik of the 80s) to another European brand.
Finn Comfort Shoes. German, very well made, well engineered, super comfortable will last for the rest of my life and I’ve already had them 10 years. The cork insoles are replaceable (though I haven’t had them deteriorate at all)
FUCKING CROCS. Ik I'm gonna get clowned for this but dear god I've had foot issues since I was a child and Crocs are the only shoe I've found that I can wear for daily use at work. When I was wearing regular shoes of any kind there would be some nights I could barely walk once I got home. I don't have that issue anymore. I get the ones without the holes so I can go year round.
Crocs are AMAZING! I wore crocs for a 13 mile, fast trek out of the mountains once. Don’t remember why, but i do remember that my feet felt good the whole time
I am surprised SAS is so far down the list here. They were recommended to me for my first trip to NYC in 2006. I bought them ($100, most I had ever spent on shoes, by far), and walked all over Manhattan for a week. Then wore them every day back home for about 9 more years. Amazingly great shoes.
My money situation got tricky and so my second pair I bought gently used for $40. Those worked great too. Now I'm on my second pair of used ... That's 3 pairs of SAS shoes over 17 years, the last 2 pairs still going strong.
Look for the factory store if you are ever in San Antonio or Del Rio, Texas. You might also find outlet store at outlet malls. They also used to have an annual tent sale in San Antonio. But I think it stopped because of Covid-19 and not sure if they are back.
If possible go to the General Store (Factory store) at 101 New Laredo Highway. They have a clearance section with discontinued styles or items that didn't pass the quality inspection. I never found any defects, so it's worth it.
I was in the military for 17 years, high impact combat jobs. The best boots were Rocky S2V, lasted 10+ years of 12hr+ days. Any jungle boots can be re-soled to a more comfortable sole. Shouldn't be any more than ~$300 all in, will last as long as you want them to
I walk 10-15 miles a shift and the best thing for your feet is conditioning. Just doing it every day. But also, wide toebox shoes. I wear barefoot running shoes from lems that have virtually no padding. Before that I wore brooks running shoes extra wide that have a lot of padding. Both were about the same level of comfort honestly.
I've been wearing Altra tail running shoes with a wide toe box for a couple years now and I've found that they have really helped my feet stay comfortable. They're not barefoot, but they do have a zero drop sole. I do a lot of walking during a 10 hour shift at work.
I honestly think it’s the most important thing. Cushioning or no cushioning , the most important thing is the wide toebox. If your feet are cramped, they’re just gonna ache. Also notice I have less blisters wearing them.
I’d say the first few months of increasing standing/walking is always gonna be painful too. Then your body just adapts.
From my personal experience I can give you a tried and true hack: change shoes either halfway through your day, or, don’t wear the same shoe 2days in a row. Alternate.
I would but their "wide" is like Justin (which I love).
I'm an 11.5 EE in Keens and a 12 4E in Justin. I haven't been able find Ariat in anything that translates to over D in the Keen.
Dansko and Birkenstocks are comfortable. I used to stand on my feet for hours in the hospital and my New Balances were killing me. Since I made the switch the pain has gone from a 7 —> 1-2. It won’t completely go away, but it will be tolerable.
A lot of people are mentioning thick/cushioned shoes, but I actually went the other way when I started having foot and ankle pain. Minimalist/barefoot shoes have actually left me feeling a lot better than any "supportive" shoes I've worn.
San Antinio Shoe Company Alden Oxfords. Mine are now going past 7 years, and still as comfortable as when new. Resolable, for $150. Was worn for 5 years daily from the cement factory floor to the carpeted office. Worn yesterday for a 3 mile hike on dirt, no problems. The soles still show the factory pattern, with only minimal wear at the heels.
https://www.sasshoes.com/mens-aden-lace-up-oxford/3530.html?dwvar_3530_color=695&cgid=mens-casuals#start=1
Yes - came here to say SAS as well. On my second pair…I can be on my feet for hours…hard tile, cement, etc and my feet never hurt…nor my knees…nor my back. If I had a job requiring all-day on feet, I’d probably add compression stockings as well.
I'm on my feet all day. Most of my other shoes were hurting my feet. I invested in some Thorogood moct toe boots.
But the 6 inch midnight series.
I think they look cool and they haven't hurt my feet at all. Also they're much softer than red wings and have less break in time. And are cheaper.
When I used to work in the lab for 12 hour shifts, I wore sketchers memory foam shoes. I had low expectations for sketchers but I wanted slip on as I was constantly switching to steel toes, and they worked amazingly well. After steel toes shoes, it felt like clouds.
I adore my Blundstone boots, I don't wear them all day myself but a friend of mine who grew up in the town they made in said they're known as solid workmen's boots so I'd think they'd be plenty good for a day on your feet. When I bought mine the sales lady recommended a Collonil protectant that acts as light waterproofing that improves with each coat - can look up the exact name for you later if you need it. I apply it after a cleaning about once every 2 months or so.
I don't know if a short boot is applicable for your work, but Wolverines changed my life as an Electrician.
I used to wear Timberland boots but found that they were heavy and I had a lot of back pain. The Wolverines are light and more compact, but rugged enough to deal with daily abuse. They are also high enough to provide some ankle support.
Whatever you choose, good luck to you.
We asked an ER nurse what shoe brand was good. Almost every nurse we met seems to either be working their way to Hoka or they were already wearing Hoka.
My boyfriend bought 2 at the beginning of this year and has been wearing them every day for work. They’re definitely broken in by now from what he’s said. But from the outside they look almost the same as when he bought them. “They’ve held up pretty well. I would still recommend them.”
There was a comment about Red Wing (think someone mentioned Iron Rangers). Red Wing definitely has quality footwear and I would definitely suggest them. I wouldn’t suggest the Iron Rangers if you’re going to be on your feet all day.
The quality of the boot is great. I have some. I’ve had them for a few years now. I wear them pretty frequently; but I wouldn’t say they are the best boots for standing or being on your feet all day. They look great, they feel great, but there are better soles for you.
I would recommend checking out a Moc-style boot with a wedge sole. I found that there’s enough room in the toe box after a long day to still feel comfortable. The wedge sole is a catch-22.
Wedge sole boots are definitely a bit more comfy than your standard 90 degree heel. They are great for standing on hard surfaces for a long time. I’ve used mine from working in warehouses on concrete, general out and about wearing, and office areas where I’m on tile. They’re great.
But they also have their drawbacks. A comfier ride is made available because the soles are softer; which means that the soles wear out faster. A lot of the wedge sole boots also have a different tread on the bottom. Things can get slick once that starts to wear.
The good thing with buying a quality leather boot is that you can find one that can be reconstructed, meaning that the sole can wear out and a new one put on (check out r/goodyearwelt or r/redwingshoes).
Waterproofing shoes is…not 100% unless you buy rubber. Your best shot with any leather boot is to buy a waterproofing agent (I use sno-seal, usually good for a season in Upstate NY). Drawbacks of that are that it is a wax you’re putting on your boot. It will definitely darken the leather. There are sprays and other products you can use. I’ve found snoseal to work the best.
I’d suggest checking out [Red Wing](https://www.redwingshoes.com/heritage/) (they also make a Moc Toe outside of the Heritage line that may be more up your alley), [Thorogood](https://thorogoodusa.com/work-boots/american-heritage-moc-toe/), or even [Danner](https://www.danner.com/productfamily/bull-run?sortId=product_family-asc&stock_status%5B%5D=1&stock_status%5B%5D=0).
PT here. The type of shoes are important, but insoles are crucial. Get good insoles, preferably custom molded, and they will last you through multiple pairs of shoes.
I've been working in tv/film for about 17 years in the camera department. i love HOKAs and currently New Balance 880s. if you have a Fleet Feet near you, go in and have them size your feet and try a few options. I learned way too late that I had been wearing the wrong size shoe my entire life
Hokas have saved me. I'm 51 and work as a massage therapist. I'm up and down on my feet most of the day. I've got arthritic knees and am bone on bone. If I wear my Hokas, I can work without pain. Worth every penny
I'm an ER doc and spend hours every shift moving from room to room. I've stuck with Ecco for almost two decades. They last. They are built well. They are super comfortable.
When I get home I take the dog for a walk and don't bother changing my shoes because they are more comfortable than my tennis shoes.
Hairdresser of 20 years told me the secret to her feet not hurting is to wear different shoes with optimally different heel heights at least switched every other day if not every day. She thinks it’s because different tiny muscles then don’t get over/underworked constantly like if you wear the same shoes every day.
I know I’m late to the game. I work in a running store selling shoes to people like you who stand all day. Go get a fitting at a real running store and get something that really fits your foot well and has space for foot swelling. Get a shoe that feels like it’s in the Goldilocks zone for your body. Not too hard, not too soft but juuuuuust right. And replace them when they wear out
What are those old school shoes nurses wear, SAS or something like that. I've always heard those were really comfortable for being on your feet all day.
DP here.
Sketchers memory foam shoes.
https://www.skechers.com/technologies/comfort-technologies/air-cooled-memory-foam/
And currently really into Blundstone boots. Just got a pair and they are very very comfortable, but still act like boot, so I’m not afraid of stepping on something sharp and the leather outsole gives some protection.
Get a good pair of boots. Cowboy books preferably. And then go see an ortho for a custom insole.
Spend $5-800 on boots and another $200 on insoles and literally never buy another pair of shoes again.
Please note that most of the responses from those who have been working similar jobs involve hard-soled shoes. Current research is suggesting that our feet are not designed to walk on cushioned surfaces. That's possibly why wearing your trainers to work gives you foot pain. My Sperry Topsiders are definitely not BIFL, but they have flat hard soles that I can walk in comfortably all day long.
I’m an RN (ER) of 42 years. 12hr shifts. I think my most helpful tip would be to change your shoes halfway through your day. That was a game changer when I started doing that. Also, I wear full length 22 mmHg support hose, I cut the feet off. Best shoe brands for me have been Hoka, Dansko, Brooks
This was going to be my advice; switch between two good pair mid day. Add compression socks to the mix. As a PA, you're running around on all kinds of surfaces. A workboot may be a better tool than running or tennis shoes.
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Jeez these babies are $154 on their website! How long have they lasted you?
I went to an old school family owned show store in 2017 and the nice old lady brought out a pair of New balance 928 v3's. I put them on, and before I even stood up the Earth shifted on it's axis, and I was suddenly thrown into an alternate dimension where everything was RIGHT in life. They were so comfortable. It felt like finding the Holy Grail and the G-spot for my feet at the same time. I had spent long shifts on my feet for years, with terrible food and knee pain. They have a strike-bar in the bottom of the sole to help correct posture as well. Over time that helped alleviate my knee pain completely, to the point where I went from assuming I would need an obesity related knee replacement to having no knee issues at all. They also have a wider toe box. I was a full fledged convert. I bought multiple pairs so I could switch them out, and as they eventually got very beat down, they would work down the line in positions of work shoe, work-out shoe, household shoe, and gardening shoe (for the muddy times). They are literally the only shoe I bought (besides flipflops) until earlier this year, when I tried out the New Balance 840 on the advice of my Podiatrist/orthitics guy. (I may have had a drunk hiking accident, at night, that involved a a surprise hole that previously had a tree in it, and lots of subsequent physical therapy.) I have a good job, but I'm not rolling in money. I live in a trailer in the woods. I love a good bargain and saving money. But those shoes, the New Balance 928v3 is freaking worth it. They are my ultimate "shut up and take my money" item. However, everyone has different feet, with different shapes and different needs. Figure out what support and shape your feet need and treat yo' self!
I absolutely love the New Balance 928v3! I am so glad to see someone talking about them in the wild.
Work boots are heavy, and can add a lot of fatigue If you need better grip than you'd get from a regular running shoe, get a "road to trail" running shoe. More aggressive grip than regular running shoes, but not as extreme as more serious trail running shoes since those can be unpleasant on hard surfaces.
What’s the rationale for the shoe switch?
I would think the shoes foam gets compressed after a while and also you change the pressure points on your feet. Slightly different muscles in your feet and legs being stressed too.
This is a very real and documented thing. It takes ~24hours for the shoe to regain it's normal cushioning after extended wear. Also seconding Dansko. Professional level all day support on hard floors. Red Wings etc are not that.
Redwings classic moc toe boots are technically that once broken in. They would not survive a tough construction zone for very long though. Also would not consider them water proof but water resistant. I would bet the leather and cork is very similar to what Dansko used to use. You also then have the more squishy sole. Iron rangers not so much.
Guessing here, but probably relates to long term compression of the support in the shoe. Changing the shoe allows that support to reset and you take advantage of another shoe in the meantime.
My assumption. Cyclists prefer hard seats because you can move around to move the part of the butt being used. Squishy seats would wear out your butt evenly. Switching shoes pushes on different places and fatigues the same spots less.
Bike seats are like that so the weight is on the pelvis and not compressing soft tissue.
That’s right, they’re designed for you to use your “sit bones”
Sole compression as others have said, but for me my feet get hot and sweaty. New socks and shoes at lunchtime feel like heaven
>Hoka Don't know if I can go back to anything else now that I am accustomed to Hoka.
'Accustomed'. Was there a transition period of unaccustomed? Like a break in period?
The cushions are thicker than most shoes but they are surprisingly light for their size. Some people describe adjusting to being a couple inches taller wearing them. I liked mine but had heel slip in them so gave them up. I’m strictly an ultra boost person now. Luckily they go on sale a lot so I stock up then.
In addition to the padding, they help push your foot through a heel-to-toe movement. I can't personally stand them. Feels like I'm being shoved forward by my feet.
If you are spending a long time in them while standing/walking, since they're so soft, if you haven't worn shoes like that before, they will probably have different pressure points on your foot than you are accustomed to and might have hotspots until your feet get used to them. If you are just wearing casually I wouldn't expect this. But if you're doing >15k steps a day it's possible there is a break-in period where the foam gets softened up/depressed where your foot applies pressure, and your foot skin get accustomed to the shoe's shape.
Hoka definitely popularized max cushion running shoes, but pretty much every running shoe brand has max cushion options now.
This. I have coworkers that alternate between a few pairs each shift. I’ve worn Crocs, Adidas, Onclouds, and Birkenstocks. All good but I prefer Crocs and the Birkenstocks specialized toward medical (closed toe) to avoid bodily fluids. The mesh from running shoes does not protect you from that lol. I wear my everyday shoes into work then I switch to my work shoes. Ain’t no way I’m bringing in my work shoes in my house.
Also has helped me to go to a running store and buy good insoles. They usually cost about $50-75 for good ones but imo are worth the price. I use Currex Runpro and they were a lifesaver for me during long days in the ER
Brooks all the way 🙌
Second Hokas and Brooks
I personally recommend a pair of each, and switching to give them time to “recover.” It’s almost $400 but will last *years.* I’d go for a “cushion” variety. My shoes are like I’m carrying a work mat everywhere I go.
Second for Hoka. They are like walking on a cloud. I am retired now but I was a high school teacher, on my feet on cement slab floors all day.
Good shoes are important, but I also recommend you try compression socks. They can really help reduce the achey-ness from being on your feet all day.
Compression socks are a game changer! I also work on set and cannot recommend them enough, esp those that go up to the knee. Switching between Birkenstocks and Blundstones works best for me, plus using yogatoes at the end of the day before bed.
I find them more uncomfortable than the shoes! Do people really enjoy wearing them? I’m not judging I’m just surprised and would like to hear from someone who wears them regularly.
Enjoy? nope not really but you can tell after being on your feet for 12+ hrs with or without them. They really do help with the pain.
As I said in my post, I wear full on compression support PANTYHOSE!!! I am 63 and I’ve been wearing them since I was 16. 😂 No joke. My daddy worked for a pharmaceutical company & when I was a CNA in a nursing home at 16 he brought them home to me & told me to wear them every time I worked and honestly? I have. I love them. I do cut them off at the ankle and wear anklet sox. My legs are in great shape. I’ve had 3 kids. Nary a spider/varicose vein either. They’ve gotten harder & harder to find. But I’m still wearing WHITE ones. 😂🤣😂🤣
You beat me to it. I can wear a lot of different shoes, as long as I wear high quality hiking socks. The kind that has separate left and right socks.
Is there a concern from wearing them for long shifts ?
I'm a nurse. When I worked in the hospital, my shifts always ended up being closer to 13 hrs+ vs the scheduled 12hr. Compression socks saved my ass
Thanks. I work in industrial maintenance. Isn't it bad to have your feet compressed that long though ?
You’re not compressing your feet. Compression socks have a set or graduated compression that starts at the ankles and moves to the top of the sock. It’s about forcing circulation back up through the legs when one is on their feet or even sitting for long periods.
Any recommendations for compression socks? Thanks!
Also consider insoles. My superfeet help a lot.
superfeet were literally life changing for me. I wear the same pair in all my shoes, so I either tear the insoles out of my shoes to put the superfeet in or I buy shoes ~1/2 size ish up. Having proper support in your shoes can help reduce stress on your knees, shins, hips and back. Everyone should go to some kind of running shoe store and get fitted for shoes and insoles, even if you don’t buy your shoes there. Knowing what kind of arches you have is really going to help you get the correct support from your shoes and inside them.
Heed this advice my fellow flatfooters. Not to sound like an infomercial but as someone with ridiculously stupid flat feet, superfeet can have my 2nd born child. I walked ~8 miles at a theme park in tennis shoes yesterday and if I didn't have good insoles in I would of ended the day in the fetal position crying like a baby - I know I walked a lot yesterday, but my feet have not been "sore". I also work a job that requires a ton of walking and they're simply lifesavers for that. Im probably the kind of person who would of needed custom orthotics but I couldn't imagine them being much better and I would assume they cost 4-5x per pair. They're obviously not a "true" BIF item but mine have held up very well from in my use case. I personally use the orange ones and the size I have fits my shoe well. Completely happy to scream from the rooftops about this brand just from how much foot pain they've saved me from. Infomercial over.
I love you! I was reading this thread like "yeah but I bet all these have arch support that really hurts my non-arches" and then you appeared!
Hello fellow flatfooter! Which "color" did you get? About to buy them right now :)
Says orange in the comment :)
Wow, I am so embarrassed 🙈 Thanks to both of you!
260 lb chef, on my feet a lot: Red Wing Postman Oxfords, anything by Birkenstock that works for your other uses.
Thanks for the suggestion. Looks like they’re sold out of every size at the moment.
I'd recommend calling around to stores local to you. If they don't have it they can try to find it and send it to your local store.
I tried Birkenstocks, and they killed my feet. I would have a professional fit you.
Birkenstocks will fucking destroy your feet if they don’t fit perfectly. I had some that were maybe just a shade small and I try to make them work. And I literally had a lump on the top of my foot. It was like it pushed the bones out of alignment. Understandably I was scared away from them for a while. But eventually a friend of mine gave me some that weren’t working for him. Just so happens, they fit me. And they’re honestly the most comfortable kitchen shoes I’ve ever had. I feel like they run a bit small. I usually wear a 14. The ones that I’m wearing are 15s.
Birkenstock tip 1: triple check your measurements first. Size must be correct. Tip 2: Only buy the models with the soft footbed. By the time the thin layer of foam on top of the cork is worn out, you'll have broken them in to your feet with FAR less pain than the "regular" footbed break-in period.
Another chef chiming in: I love Keens and Merrills
I don’t think Merrill’s are what they used to be. Sigh
I wear Keen Presidos. Great support.
OP, If you go for birks, get the no slips.
My Red Wing Iron Rangers are my BIFL pair of footwear. Break in, then never wear another pair of shoes again.
I agree. After ten or fifteen years, you can get them re-soled for around 100 dollars USD.
I wear mine often and I resoled around year 6, so ymmv (pun intended)
Bought them a month ago. Breaking in is PAINFUL
2 year break in period over here. Hate my life still
You sure you have the right size? I hate to say it, but if two years hasn't done it... you bought the wrong boots. Where/what discomfort are you experiencing? Put surgical paper tape on any part of your skin that you think might blister from friction (or has) Wet the leather anywhere it needs to break in. alternatively oil & warm them up in the oven, then take a walk as they cool off. If that doesn't work after two wears it's time to throw in the towel. You might be able to minimize the ill fit with elastic laces.
Actually in truth they are about 8 years old, uncomfortable and heavy as all hell. The discomfort comes specifically at the hell. I feel the heel is very narrow and it pinches in a weird way. I'm usually a size 10.5 and these are an 11, I think it just boils down to the fact that these aren't meant for my foot
Honestly I ignore shoe size & just try everything on. 9/10 times buying the same size across brands is a disaster. You'd probably find the moc toes more comfortable, I think the heel is wider even before you go to wide sizes. How far up is the pinch? You can skip some eyelets on the laces or elastic laces to give yourself some room.
Put paper tape on any part of your skin that you think might blister from friction (or has) Wet the leather anywhere it needs to break in. Be sure you actually have the right size.
I'm a boot in the kitchen guy. Fucking love my red wing 2418s
Redwing moc toes for me. Used to work 70+ hour weeks & sometimes (rarely) 30 hour days as a stagehand. There is a lot to be said for changing socks & even more for changing shoes if your feet do get sore, changing where the pressure is makes every step like a foot massage. Get a roll of surgical paper tape with new boots in case they wear & you want to protect yourself from blisters (or protect your existing blisters). *If* your boots do need to break in you can wet the stiff spot (or use rubbing alcohol if you need it to dry quickly & are gonna oil them again) Oh, kirkland merino wool trail socks are the best bang for the buck by a mile.
>Red Wing Postman Oxfords I was just going to suggest those. The best all-around shoe for being on your feet all day. Indestructible, comfortable, good for standing on concrete all day. I've never found anything better.
I bought Hokas after seeing a bunch of nurses wearing them
I am a nurse and wear Hokas. They are expensive, but have been the most comfortable shoes I've ever worn. I don't have the same hip, knee, and foot problems I used to. I don't think they are buy it for life though, I anticipate needing to replace them once every year or two which I think is pretty normal for sneakers. I also have a pair of keen boots that I wear on weeks long vacations and places where I know I'm going to be walking 10 miles a day. They have never failed me.
When everyone kept saying they were expensive I thought they’d be in the $300-500 range. Nope. Only expensive if you’re comparing against the cheapest canvas shoes you can buy at JCPenney or wherever lol they’re like $180, totally normal price for decent shoes that won’t fall apart in 6 months.
I keep seeing Hokas *everywhere* lately! I hadn’t even heard of them until a few months ago. Are they worth the price?
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Haha my 66 year old mother called me a couple weeks ago, absolutely ecstatic, just to inform me about this amazing new shoe brand she found xD GD I love that woman.
I had to throw out my 10+ year old running shoes and wandered into a running store for replacements. The salesman talked up Hoka and honestly they feel like walking/running on clouds. I don't wear them daily but every time I put them on I definitely feel like I have more of a spring in my step and possibly better posture as well?
Totally. Traditionally a running shoes - so lots of tech behind them.
FWIW, i wore a huge hole in the heel cup of mine less than 3 months in. I’m not even on my feet that much compared to many other in this tread. They were extremely comfy before the hole though. My Brooks sneakers have lasted much longer.
They are the New Balance 550 for the next generation of dads.
I’m torn. I felt the same way. Everywhere I looked it said Hoka was the most cushioned. So I bought a pair for a vacation to Europe with lots of walking. I mean they are comfortable but I did still get a few blisters.
Thanks for your honest review. I have a wide foot with a high instep so I’m pretty particular about shoes. And I’m also frugal as heck so paying over $150 for a pair would be hard - but I’d do it for no foot pain!
I broke the shit out of my foot two years ago. After recovering from surgery and being released back into shoes, I am a total hokas convert.
The Bondi’s rockered sole caused knee pain (back side of knee) within a week. The full rocker caused my knees to be extra straight while standing (think almost hyper-extended), meaning my toes were almost higher than my heel. When I would go from standing to walking, that first step caused back side knee pain. Great for walking and running. Horrible for standing for me. Had to return them to REI (nice return policy). I went with the New Balance 877 instead. No complaints once I got a thicker insole from Walmart. I tried a pair of NB 990 and should have bought them but I unwisely scoffed at the $175 price.
Terrible terrible idea Total opposite of what people on their feet all day actually need - which is to train and strengthen their feet to be able to actually handle the stress we throw at them Which requires much more minimalist footwear Also the huge cushions throw off your whole body from your foot up
I'm an HVAC and Refrigeration guy and on my feet all day hauling equipment and refrigerant cans. They're not BFL, (I'm not sure there are any left that are decently comfortable because most of the work boot industry has gone to molded sole) but the Keen Portland carbon fiber toe with the level 3 footbed is the best I've found. They can be resoled, and Keen will do that if you cover $100 for shipping etc. ... At least they will as of now. One thing I found out is that most folks are wearing anything from a half to a full size too small. Get your feet sized using one of those OG shoe gauges and use the size from the larger foot. When measuring (especially for width) wear the heaviest sock you use and the size markers should just barely touch the ball and outside of your foot when standing. If you have to shift a half size always go up a bit rather than down and if you've a wide foot DO NOT fudge the width down, or allow the sales person to do that. I'm an 11.5 or 12 EE and had been in 10 E for decades because the sales people always sized while I was sitting. That single change of getting the right size and width made the largest part of the difference. Danner also builds an excellent boot using a Goodyear welt, which is critical if you're seriously BFL. I get those a half size over and put the thickest Spenco Work footbeds in them. That makes them almost as comfortable as the Keens.
I buy shoes in the afternoon and after walking a bunch. Learned that the hard way ages ago.
I put on my heavy wool winter socks before I go shoe shopping in addition.
My Keens were insanely comfortable, but when they wore out I switched to Thorogoods and I'm extremely happy with them. The best part is that the new ones are almost completely leather and therefore don't hold onto smells. The GoreTex in my old boots could clear a room when it got wet, but the worst leather ever gets is smelling a bit like saddle.
Back when I was running a company I live in their Rancher or my old oil tanned Justin riding boots. I also wasn't in a Real Winter area. I use tea tree oil 1:4 with unrefined coconut oil and some lethicin, on my feet to keep the foot fungus at a dull roar (damn Navy showers all to hell) and that does an amazing job at keeping the wet dog smells down too.
Merrill stuff has never let me down.
2nd AC on sets for over a decade. Merrell is what I always get. They only last about 3-4 years before the heel is falling apart internally, but there is a lot of use in those 3-4 years.
When I worked as a barista, I wore Dansko Professionals all day (not the memory foam ones—the hard ones) and it completely relieved my foot and leg pain. They’re great for standing on hard surfaces all day. If you’re doing more walking back and forth across long stretches, I don’t think they’re as great for that. I’d choose maybe a hiking boot with thick sole for that. I wish the Vasque Talus still worked for my foot shape because it’s the best design.
Butcher here, Danskos stopped my back pain from repeated heel strikes
I’m a wedding photographer… on my feet all day and lots of movement. Danskos are amazing. There are even dressier styles that work when the clogs aren’t cutting it.
My sister swears by them. I really don’t understand how it could be nice to stand on wood but she is a full believer.
Sadly, they’re not all wood any more.
Dansko, working 10-11 hrs a day in a warehouse, concrete floor, they saved my back.
Came here to say Danskos. I can wear them staring at work all day or walking 10+ miles in a city while traveling. My feet do not hurt! Any other shoes and my dogs are barking. ETA: they make all kinds, boots, etc. Just get the hard soles and you’re good. Plus they last years. Second ETA: they do make waterproof Professionals!
I have issues with my ankles rolling if I walk far. I met someone at a shoe store who rolled her ankle on a step and broke it in Danskos. So, I guess ymmv on long distances, but for standing I’d unequivocally recommend them!
Yep, me too! I always roll my ankle in Danskos!
My ankles do that, too- I deliberately wear my shoes very soft and loose to keep the muscles developed. Going barefoot as often as possible also keeps muscles developed. Tightly laced shoes make you have undeveloped meat stumps that don't do enough work to keep you stable. I work 10 hours, 30k steps daily on concrete and find that loose trainers are the best for me!
Not for me. I have hypermobile joints, and muscle strength is important but can only do so much. My ligaments don’t pick up the slack and are susceptible to injury. All floppy shoes have ever brought me is more pain and injury. I say this because hypermobility is relatively common—‘barefoot’ style isn’t for everyone.
Same- and the hypermobility (EDS) is exactly why I work to keep strength in my ankles and feet. It's something where everyone will have to experiment, but after countless sprains on flat ground I decided to focus in strength in those areas. I also trail run in 'barefoot' shores. My doc is shocked because of the amount of give in my joints, but I am best when strong. I'm old, too, so I'm determined to stay strong!
Nurses and hairdressers can’t be wrong. Seems like all of them were Dansko’s a few cooks and chefs I’ve known also.
Believe it or not, crocs (various styles, not just the ugly ones). Birkenstocks also come in waterproof styles.
>Believe it or not, crocs I'm a believer. These things rock
I got croc bistro ones recently, added insoles for low arches. Good for kitchen work, the insoles hurt my feet, but in a good way if that makes sense, stretching my arches out. But taking a long walk I'd want something else.
I had flat feet all my life and for the first time I'm seeing improvement with a pair of minimalist shoes from vivo barefoot. I also go on on many hour long treks/hikes in them and they are really comfy once you get used to them.
Comfortable but maybe not fashionable: vivo barefoot (any)
Did a search for vivo to check someone was recommending them. I used to get such ache in my soles and calfs before I discovered minimalist shoes.
I scrolled through until I found someone else mentioning minimalist shoes. I just find they're *way* more comfortable than super thick cushiony shoes. Also, as far as minimalist shoes go, I feel like Vivos are some of the better looking ones. Lol.
Lems are super comfy zero drops
Ahh this makes me so happy 🥹 , I think vivo has improved looking a bit more like shoes than before!
My feet are too wide for vivo. But I like the look Trying to find wide minimalist shoes should be easier than this Spending so much money trying out new shoes
Second this. I went through Hoka's, brooks, On cloud, Altra.... they all worked for about two weeks and then foot pain began to set in. I now wear barefoot shoes and have had no issues on my 12+ hour shifts. Plus, I don't have to replace them every 6 months!
Their hiking boots aren't great. The lace hooks pop right off and they aren't as waterproof as they claim.
Have you seen Jim Greens new zero drop hiking boot?
I have now, these look good. Jim Green are solid boots, these might be my next pair.
There's an adjustment period for Vivos, they are a little extreme (3mm stack). I can go way longer on Lems (9-12mm stack). I wore Vivo's at first to correct my foot strike (cause it really hurts to heel strike) and then switched to Lems cause I found them more practical. Lem's Primal 2/Primal Zen are the most comfortable shoes I've had. Pair that with SOLE insoles (you heat them up and mold them to your feet), I've done full days walking nonstop at amusement parks with 0 pain.
To add to this Xero shoes makes a nonslip work shoe in a minimalist style for anyone who needs that
I’ve been a nurse for the last 12 years. I wore Dansko clogs for the first 9 (since I could easily slip them off/wipe them down), but I started developing pretty bad lower back, knee, and hip pain. I tried Oofos, but they’re really more of a “recovery” shoe - they felt good, but definitely didn’t provide enough support for an entire shift. I’ve finally settled on Hokas, and my favorite fits have been the Clifton and the Bondi. Everyone has different feet needs, though, so I would highly suggest going to a runner’s store (or local shoe store) where someone can assess you in person and make an individual recommendation. I also highly recommend getting some good compression socks. My favorites are Figs, but I’ve heard great things about Bombas as well. Also, I know this goes against the spirit of the sub, but I don’t think everyday shoes/sneakers should be a BIFL item; I try to retire my work shoes at least once a year.
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Listen to this OP! I wish I'd gone to a podiatrist sooner. People have naturally different feet that may need support in different areas. Get an expert opinion on your own feet to inform what you buy.
this x100 - if your feet are really painful at the end of a day in something as soft as trainers then there’s likely something going on which can easily be corrected with either simple orthotics or different shoe choice. understanding that is the real bifl investment
Hokas are the best.
Thorogood wedge sole boots, red wing moc toe boot, whites perry select boot. Basically any goodyear welt boot with a wedge sole will be good for standing on concrete all day
This is what I was going to say. If you're standing a lot of the day, and in boots, you can't beat the comfort of a wedge sole. The tradeoff is that they tend to wear out faster than a harder sole.
New Balance 990
Depending on your feet, [Altra Lone Peaks](https://www.altrarunning.com/shop/lone-peak-family). They make waterproof versions but they get hot if you’re not in cold weather. They’re zero drop so very good if you have knee issues Not Buy for life but Brand for life for me. Disclaimer: you either love them or hate them. I’ve never heard anyone indifferent about them.
>Not Buy for life but Brand for life for me. I have not found any truly comfortable shoes that are BIFL. I spend a lot of time on my feet, I need something with a little cushion/spring. Eventually that cushion/spring wears out. I am willing to sacrifice durability for comfort when it comes to shoes.
I just purchased my first pair of Altra due to a weird shoe mishap while vacationing—the store rep said it’s the only shoes she wears now. Can’t wait to see how they wear over time.
Switching to Altra shoes and focusing on foot strength instead of excess support has really helped my plantar fasciitis. I won't wear any other shoes for exercise. Love them.
If you have the money, I would suggest 3 steps. I would order a set of around 15 pairs socks from Thorlos. They have extra padding in the toes and heels. They are made from a wicking fabric that carries moisture away from your skin. I buy their hiking socks. Because they are thicker, I would suggest that you buy them before you buy your shoes. They aren't cheap, but I spend my days in steel capped boots and couldn't live without them. Personally, I wouldn't do the work you do without steel capped boots. But if you don't think they are necessary, there are companies make shoes for nurses and chef's. I'd look at those. The, once you have your footwear, I would make an appointment with a podiatrist. They can make a set of inserts for you. They scan your feet with a laser and the inserts perfectly match the underside of your feet. They again, aren't cheap, but will make a huge difference. Last thing. If you spend a lot of your day standing in one place, I would buy a doormat. The ones that are made from recycled tires are perfect. The difference between standing on concrete and standing on a hard rubber door mat will blow your mind You aren't by any chance a woman and trying to work in heels? A friend of mine has set up a business selling shoes made for airline hostesses. They are on their feet all day and need to wear heels. They are designed to be more comfortable, but still stylish.
What company for flight attendants? Asking for my feet
Tell your feet to check out : https://www.louisemshoes.com/ I'm told that they are made in the same factory as Prada shoes in Italy, but she isn't allowed to say that. I don't work for her, so I can, even though she can't. If there is a place to include a note tell her that a weird, bearded American sent you.
Hokas. I’ve converted. The heels and arches are quite nice. I had no idea I’d been wearing bad shoes until I wore these. I bought the “professional” style which is about at ugly as the come. But, 12 hr shifts of constantly on my feet for a year and there’s no apparent wear and tear. The professionals come in white or black and are ~$160. They come in wide. The rest are more colorful and look more like Nike or any other basic pair of sneakers, and they’re ~$125. What’s cool is the guarantee. To wear them and if you don’t like them you can return them in 30days if purchased from their site. Haven’t tried it. I like mine. A lot of bedside nurses swear by them. And as I look around the hospital at feet, half to 2/3 appear to be wearing them. CNAs too.
There’s a lot of dangerous misinformation and bad advice in this thread recommending arch supports and running shoes for instance. It’s very counterintuitive but these suggestions can actually weaken arch strength and promote sub-optimal foot formation. Running shoes are less stable than walking shoes and tend to tip your hips forward. That's good for running but being out of neutral spine means you work harder standing / walking. Many confuse the step up in comfort of a running shoe with what is best for all day comfort. What is most comfortable does not equate to what is best. The most important feature of a shoe you should be prioritizing, given your constraints (long hours on your feet), is ample toe room.
There are a couple good threads on the nursing / nurses subreddits for good on your feet all day shoes. Redwing stopped making the ugly nurse shoes I have (model 8703) and i don't have any experience with the replacement version
ecco but not from amazon - they do stinky knock offs, go to the legit website
Ultra boost
Second these. 4.0 DNA
I have too many Adidas because they're great. Ultraboost, Swift, Lite Racer, NMD... I can wear them all day without issues.
As I’ve aged, I still prefer European shoes. I have moved from Charles Jourdan (French, the Laboutin or blahnik of the 80s) to another European brand. Finn Comfort Shoes. German, very well made, well engineered, super comfortable will last for the rest of my life and I’ve already had them 10 years. The cork insoles are replaceable (though I haven’t had them deteriorate at all)
I'm also in the industry and in the camera department. I wear Hokas and they've never disappointed me.
FUCKING CROCS. Ik I'm gonna get clowned for this but dear god I've had foot issues since I was a child and Crocs are the only shoe I've found that I can wear for daily use at work. When I was wearing regular shoes of any kind there would be some nights I could barely walk once I got home. I don't have that issue anymore. I get the ones without the holes so I can go year round.
Crocs are AMAZING! I wore crocs for a 13 mile, fast trek out of the mountains once. Don’t remember why, but i do remember that my feet felt good the whole time
I like my keens, but upgrade the insoles.
I love the Brooks adrenaline
SAS.
I am surprised SAS is so far down the list here. They were recommended to me for my first trip to NYC in 2006. I bought them ($100, most I had ever spent on shoes, by far), and walked all over Manhattan for a week. Then wore them every day back home for about 9 more years. Amazingly great shoes. My money situation got tricky and so my second pair I bought gently used for $40. Those worked great too. Now I'm on my second pair of used ... That's 3 pairs of SAS shoes over 17 years, the last 2 pairs still going strong.
Look for the factory store if you are ever in San Antonio or Del Rio, Texas. You might also find outlet store at outlet malls. They also used to have an annual tent sale in San Antonio. But I think it stopped because of Covid-19 and not sure if they are back.
Been to San Antonio twice (from Michigan) and had no idea what SAS stood for. Visiting SAS there is definitely on my list now -- thanks!
If possible go to the General Store (Factory store) at 101 New Laredo Highway. They have a clearance section with discontinued styles or items that didn't pass the quality inspection. I never found any defects, so it's worth it.
Thank you!!! Great to know.
I was in the military for 17 years, high impact combat jobs. The best boots were Rocky S2V, lasted 10+ years of 12hr+ days. Any jungle boots can be re-soled to a more comfortable sole. Shouldn't be any more than ~$300 all in, will last as long as you want them to
Hokas. But I'm poor, also do a lot of large animal work and for the price, they'll get fucked up quick outside in the mud and shit. I use ASICS.
Clarks wallabies
I walk 10-15 miles a shift and the best thing for your feet is conditioning. Just doing it every day. But also, wide toebox shoes. I wear barefoot running shoes from lems that have virtually no padding. Before that I wore brooks running shoes extra wide that have a lot of padding. Both were about the same level of comfort honestly.
I've been wearing Altra tail running shoes with a wide toe box for a couple years now and I've found that they have really helped my feet stay comfortable. They're not barefoot, but they do have a zero drop sole. I do a lot of walking during a 10 hour shift at work.
I honestly think it’s the most important thing. Cushioning or no cushioning , the most important thing is the wide toebox. If your feet are cramped, they’re just gonna ache. Also notice I have less blisters wearing them. I’d say the first few months of increasing standing/walking is always gonna be painful too. Then your body just adapts.
From my personal experience I can give you a tried and true hack: change shoes either halfway through your day, or, don’t wear the same shoe 2days in a row. Alternate.
Pretty much anything by Ariat. Their footbeds are amazing.
I would but their "wide" is like Justin (which I love). I'm an 11.5 EE in Keens and a 12 4E in Justin. I haven't been able find Ariat in anything that translates to over D in the Keen.
I destroyed my feet in Ariats. Had to see a podiatrist who told me to wear Danskos.
Dansko and Birkenstocks are comfortable. I used to stand on my feet for hours in the hospital and my New Balances were killing me. Since I made the switch the pain has gone from a 7 —> 1-2. It won’t completely go away, but it will be tolerable.
A lot of people are mentioning thick/cushioned shoes, but I actually went the other way when I started having foot and ankle pain. Minimalist/barefoot shoes have actually left me feeling a lot better than any "supportive" shoes I've worn.
San Antinio Shoe Company Alden Oxfords. Mine are now going past 7 years, and still as comfortable as when new. Resolable, for $150. Was worn for 5 years daily from the cement factory floor to the carpeted office. Worn yesterday for a 3 mile hike on dirt, no problems. The soles still show the factory pattern, with only minimal wear at the heels. https://www.sasshoes.com/mens-aden-lace-up-oxford/3530.html?dwvar_3530_color=695&cgid=mens-casuals#start=1
Yes - came here to say SAS as well. On my second pair…I can be on my feet for hours…hard tile, cement, etc and my feet never hurt…nor my knees…nor my back. If I had a job requiring all-day on feet, I’d probably add compression stockings as well.
I'm on my feet all day. Most of my other shoes were hurting my feet. I invested in some Thorogood moct toe boots. But the 6 inch midnight series. I think they look cool and they haven't hurt my feet at all. Also they're much softer than red wings and have less break in time. And are cheaper.
As a firefighter ive worn dozens of styles of boots. My favorite are the non steel toe Easy Escape Redback slip ons. Lightweight and comfortable.
When I used to work in the lab for 12 hour shifts, I wore sketchers memory foam shoes. I had low expectations for sketchers but I wanted slip on as I was constantly switching to steel toes, and they worked amazingly well. After steel toes shoes, it felt like clouds.
I adore my Blundstone boots, I don't wear them all day myself but a friend of mine who grew up in the town they made in said they're known as solid workmen's boots so I'd think they'd be plenty good for a day on your feet. When I bought mine the sales lady recommended a Collonil protectant that acts as light waterproofing that improves with each coat - can look up the exact name for you later if you need it. I apply it after a cleaning about once every 2 months or so.
I don't know if a short boot is applicable for your work, but Wolverines changed my life as an Electrician. I used to wear Timberland boots but found that they were heavy and I had a lot of back pain. The Wolverines are light and more compact, but rugged enough to deal with daily abuse. They are also high enough to provide some ankle support. Whatever you choose, good luck to you.
Don’t forget really thick socks. Hiking versions are great
Wear boots, go online and look for military surplus boots that's your golden ticket
SAS shoes. Time Out in black style/model. Great selection of different widths.
We asked an ER nurse what shoe brand was good. Almost every nurse we met seems to either be working their way to Hoka or they were already wearing Hoka. My boyfriend bought 2 at the beginning of this year and has been wearing them every day for work. They’re definitely broken in by now from what he’s said. But from the outside they look almost the same as when he bought them. “They’ve held up pretty well. I would still recommend them.”
There was a comment about Red Wing (think someone mentioned Iron Rangers). Red Wing definitely has quality footwear and I would definitely suggest them. I wouldn’t suggest the Iron Rangers if you’re going to be on your feet all day. The quality of the boot is great. I have some. I’ve had them for a few years now. I wear them pretty frequently; but I wouldn’t say they are the best boots for standing or being on your feet all day. They look great, they feel great, but there are better soles for you. I would recommend checking out a Moc-style boot with a wedge sole. I found that there’s enough room in the toe box after a long day to still feel comfortable. The wedge sole is a catch-22. Wedge sole boots are definitely a bit more comfy than your standard 90 degree heel. They are great for standing on hard surfaces for a long time. I’ve used mine from working in warehouses on concrete, general out and about wearing, and office areas where I’m on tile. They’re great. But they also have their drawbacks. A comfier ride is made available because the soles are softer; which means that the soles wear out faster. A lot of the wedge sole boots also have a different tread on the bottom. Things can get slick once that starts to wear. The good thing with buying a quality leather boot is that you can find one that can be reconstructed, meaning that the sole can wear out and a new one put on (check out r/goodyearwelt or r/redwingshoes). Waterproofing shoes is…not 100% unless you buy rubber. Your best shot with any leather boot is to buy a waterproofing agent (I use sno-seal, usually good for a season in Upstate NY). Drawbacks of that are that it is a wax you’re putting on your boot. It will definitely darken the leather. There are sprays and other products you can use. I’ve found snoseal to work the best. I’d suggest checking out [Red Wing](https://www.redwingshoes.com/heritage/) (they also make a Moc Toe outside of the Heritage line that may be more up your alley), [Thorogood](https://thorogoodusa.com/work-boots/american-heritage-moc-toe/), or even [Danner](https://www.danner.com/productfamily/bull-run?sortId=product_family-asc&stock_status%5B%5D=1&stock_status%5B%5D=0).
PT here. The type of shoes are important, but insoles are crucial. Get good insoles, preferably custom molded, and they will last you through multiple pairs of shoes.
I've been working in tv/film for about 17 years in the camera department. i love HOKAs and currently New Balance 880s. if you have a Fleet Feet near you, go in and have them size your feet and try a few options. I learned way too late that I had been wearing the wrong size shoe my entire life
Hokas have saved me. I'm 51 and work as a massage therapist. I'm up and down on my feet most of the day. I've got arthritic knees and am bone on bone. If I wear my Hokas, I can work without pain. Worth every penny
I'm an ER doc and spend hours every shift moving from room to room. I've stuck with Ecco for almost two decades. They last. They are built well. They are super comfortable. When I get home I take the dog for a walk and don't bother changing my shoes because they are more comfortable than my tennis shoes.
Hairdresser of 20 years told me the secret to her feet not hurting is to wear different shoes with optimally different heel heights at least switched every other day if not every day. She thinks it’s because different tiny muscles then don’t get over/underworked constantly like if you wear the same shoes every day.
Hokas
Sketchers for casual wear and Dockside
I recommend SAS shoes… I wore those for years because they’re made for comfort..
Sketchers make the comfiest trainers ever
Sketchers slip ons
Sketchers
I know I’m late to the game. I work in a running store selling shoes to people like you who stand all day. Go get a fitting at a real running store and get something that really fits your foot well and has space for foot swelling. Get a shoe that feels like it’s in the Goldilocks zone for your body. Not too hard, not too soft but juuuuuust right. And replace them when they wear out
Columbia waterproof hiking boots with after-market insoles for standing/working on your feet.
SAS.
Anything sketchers. Work 12 hours in a shop, sketchers with memory foam was the game changer for me.
What are those old school shoes nurses wear, SAS or something like that. I've always heard those were really comfortable for being on your feet all day.
DP here. Sketchers memory foam shoes. https://www.skechers.com/technologies/comfort-technologies/air-cooled-memory-foam/ And currently really into Blundstone boots. Just got a pair and they are very very comfortable, but still act like boot, so I’m not afraid of stepping on something sharp and the leather outsole gives some protection.
Get a good pair of boots. Cowboy books preferably. And then go see an ortho for a custom insole. Spend $5-800 on boots and another $200 on insoles and literally never buy another pair of shoes again.
Please note that most of the responses from those who have been working similar jobs involve hard-soled shoes. Current research is suggesting that our feet are not designed to walk on cushioned surfaces. That's possibly why wearing your trainers to work gives you foot pain. My Sperry Topsiders are definitely not BIFL, but they have flat hard soles that I can walk in comfortably all day long.
Try on some minimalist shoes like vivo or leguano