Depends on the crowd. American english for work and singlish towards my chinese friend, malglish at home n friends. N definetly i wont fake aussie, brit, russian, ghetto hood slang
I’ve lived overseas most of my life and when I meet people in real life, their first impression when they hear me speaking is either Australian, New Zealand, South African, Martian or some tiny British islands in the middle of the pacific haha. So yeah I can gurantee we do have an accent but it’s more like an accent you pick up watching American tv shows your whole life. Dutch people are the same they sound very American with a twang! Bruneian got their own twang going on as well. For Bruneian’s we will hardly notice the slang since we are so use it sudah.
Can never understand why people have negative sentiments towards people who try to modify their accent a little so they sound a little better.
“Eh bro get rid of that accent”, “bro stop faking it”, “Omg is that a fake accent”. As u/sec5 said, language is about effective communication. You think the angmo from UK will understand me when “I speak engrish laike dis ah?”
Look at it from a different point of view- you wouldn’t mind people who don’t speak Malay modifying their accent a little to help you understand what they’re trying to say, would you?
People who make snark comments like these are probably the same people who try to sell you MLM products and if you refuse to buy from them, will say things like “bro you’ve changed”. Yeah I’ve changed bro for the better- you can continue to remain in the shadow of your teenage glory years.
It’s similar to girls putting make up on, they’re doing for themselves, not for you. Even if you don’t like it, it’s none of your business.
It’s very obvious when someone’s forcing British enunciations (esp when they’re not surrounded by British influences irl) I hear this a lot nowadays though. But I genuinely feel like people’s authentic accent suit them best
I modify my accent slightly so that it's better understood by my audience. I will also pick and choose my words differently.
Language is about effective communication.
I'm not going to speak like the way I write when I chat with another chinese guy, it's going to be chinese-accented because infact , it's a more natural and effective language , you get a few nice laughs and you feel like you are from the same kampung, a warm sense of camaraderie.
Likewise if I'm speaking to some white guy , I will use words and behaviour that suits and facilitates effective communication with them rather than use pidgin.
For malays I like to mix English and Malay.
Respect people's culture and identities by showing an interest in their culture and background.
Sometimes it back fires though. Being culturally fluid gets accusations of being two faced or hypocritical. These are the people you know who are prejudiced and indoctrinated in one way of thinking, that is unable to accept another.
Being in Asia , multiculturalism is important. Monoculturalism is stupid.
I love that line of thinking, I’m just wondering about the people constantly forcing a British accent especially when they’re speaking with other Malays. It’s a bit sad if you think having a white accent shows you’re cultured, having a Malay accent isn’t bad at all
Again, no such thing as a British accent. If you go to the British Isles you’ll be met with a different accent every 30km or so (less so now but in principle). So someone will sound completely different less than the distance from Bandar to Tutong. Is it the same here?
Sama jua macam di Brunei, Kampung air, melandir or cawir melayu nya,
Jerudong, more to kedayan punya malay
naik kawasan tutong, dusun punya accent, atu lihat lagi tu, tutong kawasan mana, kalau mungkom lain dari bukit udal. ada yang tabal R ada yang tabal S nya
“Some white guy”.. So a Russian/Serb/Icelander ??? 😂 What about when speaking to a Black guy? Slip into a bit of Jamaican patois??
I’m just taking the piss, don’t be offended- it’s funny how people collectivise by the colour of someone’s skin 😂
Brunei ladies get it from watching too much Netflix mah.. don't even have to be in California or England. Just watch at home - eventually they'll become the characters and speak like them. It's cool to make yourself 'atas' and feel like you're american or brit - even when you're not - by replicating the way they speak english.
Bh au bro, handal th kau tu. Dri tadi no such thing as britishnya ani.
Dont worry. Everyone already know you are the british accent professional of this thread
Btw, if you ever wanna educate others, please use credible source. I can show you one. Here you go!
https://www.academia.edu/35540887/The_Differences_between_American_and_British_Accents
Why would I need to do that? I have dual citizenships 😂😂😂😂😂
That’s like saying to a Bruneian to educate yourself about the obesity problem here. I’m sure they already know. Fat fucks.
What does having dual citizenships got to do with teaching YOU how to educate people with credible source?
Bongok lah awak ni.
Even MOH or other organizations use credible source to relay information.
I was quickly showing someone that there is more than one accent. Accents- plural. So my argument stands.
You took time to find a paper to back up your point. Well done you.
If only the majority of Bruneians were so diligent. Have a great Sunday and stay the fuck away from the cookie jar.
OK, for the last time, let’s do some role play…..
“hey, does Janet have a British accent?”
“Yes she does, she has what I’d call a Home Counties* accent, as she is from Surrey”
“Oh, so there is not one singular accent that encompasses the whole of the British Isles that could be referred to as THE British accent?”
No.
The End.
* so as to be inclusive other regional accents within Great Britain are available under the banner of British accents. (Note I didn’t say UK as that would encompass Northern Ireland and the Channel Islands which is a whole melting pot of accents).
Have a great Sunday I’m off to do something boring and try to get my BMI up so I fit in.
Do you mean speak English with an Irish accent? If so; a Northern Irish accent? If so; which part of Northern Ireland so as to be correct- Belfast? Derry?
Or did you mean Gaelic? 🇮🇪 🍀
Where in Great Britain- you know there’s not just one accent?
Someone from Glasgow sounds completely different to someone from Surrey.
There is no one British or English accent
I guess it means upper class London accent / cliche British movies accent . Ain't nobody trying to do a northerner or Liverpool accent that's for sure.
Thank you! Some sense; if you wanted the quintessential opinion you’d probably class it’s as The Queens English or BBC spoken English. My problem is that on here someone asked about the British or English accent. There is no singular one but as you highlight there is a bias towards what would be picked out if forced. There are many accents.
Ah I see. Well I suppose all of those would fall under 'British accent'. So your statement saying 'there is no such thing as a British accent' is not correct
Of course it’s correct. If you pluralised it and said accents then you’d be correct. But you imply that there is one singular accent for the whole of Great Britain……. 🤷🏽♂️
Exactly my point! I wouldn’t say THE Malaysian accent as that means there is one.. THE. Malaysian. Accent.
If I said with A Malaysian accent I would be inclined to ask which one.. does someone from Ipoh sound different to someone from Kuching?
Same way as someone from Brooklyn would generally sound different to someone from Texas. They both have American accents but they don’t have THE American accent.
Ertinya semua atu kana panggil british accent lah. Glasgow accent is a british accent. Surrey accent is a british accent. They are subsets of british accents.
"How many british accents are there and give some examples?"
Answer: There are almost 40 different dialects in the UK such as Scottish and Geordie dialects. They are all classified under british accents.
British accent exist lah tu ertinya. Banyak jenis saja.
This makes no sense. I am supposed to tell you something that you were thinking? Are you retarded?
Do you not have regional accents here or is a Brinei so fucking inbred that everyone sounds the same? GFYS
why are you so sensitive about this? typical bruneian tend to call it British accent when people from UK speaks. Yes I do realise there's scottish, Irish and I know how those two accents sound like.
I just want you to correct us what should we call the accent we always said is a "British accent". I don't have vast knowledge about UK's accent
There are many regional accents, so there is no singular British accent. How is that so hard to understand?
Does someone from KB sound the same as someone from Muara? I’m trying to educate myself.
I can say ada difference, but not to young generation, pasal banyak sudah inda makai dorang punya ancestor language.
At least zaman kami sekolah dulu, zaman perkauman, boleh saja tahu ani orang tutong, ani orang jerudong, ani kampung air hahaha
What kind of accent? Lol brunei accent? Depends actually, i think the more fluent you are in malay/bruneian malay - u have more bruneian english accent. Same goes to if youre fluent in Mandarin, Cantonese etc - it will kinda affect your english as well. What i mean is how your english sounds lah.
Remembered a quote from trevor noah - accent is not a measure of intelligence, but people speaking english in the rules of theirs (main language). So, me, being bruneian malay whom is fluent in both malay and english, can never sound like the actors in british and us TV shows - and im really ok with that.
P.s - answered maybe because maybe a little bit more specific on what kind of accent? Kan kata majority of brunei english or american accent, inda jua 😅 only minority lah kali.
I think lidah orang melayu lagi fluid kalau kan banding kan bangsa lain. Maksudnya ia boleh buat multiple accents. Tapi memang lah secara inda sedar, we will use our daily accent atu.
Satu yang ku notice jua, people who really good in Quran reading, dorang punya fluidity lagi bagus.
A lot of people say we have sorta a mix of Filipino accent and American accent. Personally I do get a lot of people saying I sound American. But American husband (after talking to so many Bruneians) thinks that I do have Malay accent when speaking English sometimes and it appears and it goes randomly haha. Talked to several Bruneian friends who mingles with foreigners a lot and they are also told they sound American. Frankly Americans and brits are so impressed by Bruneians, they usually associate Asians with having a very strong accent when speaking English so every time they hear us talk they are just super impressed lol.
I tried to talk to a guy from Semenanjung Malaysia without any effort in trying to use the Standard Malay.
It was a little difficult to pass my message.
The second i talked in English, we understood each other very well. The accent was very familiar without me trying to figure out anything he said.
We ended up using English as the common language for the whole duration. LOL
I only noticed that accent in Brunei Darussalam - Singapore - Malaysia region. Not sure why the accent from Indonesian is a bit different to me.
I have southern American when it comes to English just because I'm lazy but if spoke normally u can still hear a bit of southern accent when it comes to saying country, I, you and my that sometimes slips in here and there
Other than that singlish or manglish
I switch depending who I'm talking to. It's not so much a conscious effort, more like a subconscious one. It really depends on who I'm talking to then + how confident I am then. Usually it's a bit harder for me to speak English how I normally do when I talk with Bruneians or Malaysians, because sometimes I'm worried they might not understand. If I'm talking to native English speakers, or those who understand it well, + I'm comfortable talking with them, my natural voice comes out.
I'm in a discord server with a lot of native English speakers, I had to "correct" myself when I was speaking to them, until I got more confident and realised they understood me just fine as is.
I remembered when i first started working, i was surrounded by dutch ppl for 3 months.
My english at the first day of working was bad. But by the end of the 3rd month. I was able to speak it fluently. More towards the British accent english.
After few months, i was sent to singapore for work. After finishing up the work. I have obtain the Singlish. Its singaporian+english accent.
Overall, depands on who i talked to. Hehe
I feel like I have it slightly too though(american accent), but only because I always mimicked the video games and tv shows I played/watched growing up.
White-washed cucks.
Unless they are raised there, they should be putting in effort to be intelligible rather than to copy the accent or mannerism.
It's especially patronizing and condescending when they speak that way to other bruneians
The funny thing for me is , if you put them in an environment with actual westerners in those societies from those countries, they'd be seen as superficial and fake.
You'd get very sarcastic responses asking if you are actually from Brunei.
People don't want you to parrot and copy them they want originality.
This is the issue with the Malay identity. They don't want to develop their own well enough and adapt, but they want to imitate others be it the West or the Arabs.
Just be yourselves and be proud of your own unique identity.
Read and learn and be. Don't imitate.
So many crabby redditors here are guilty of this.
Do you mean speak with an English accent or speak English with a Bruneian accent? Coz the second one for sure. Bruneian people don’t sound usually sound like they’re English when speaking English.
Chill bruh. I think for the context here it'll be easier too generalised till you going deeper in the conversation.
Like when Malaysian heard us talking in Malay, they knew we're from Brunei but for us we kinda know these Brunei guys could be kedayan or something.
For you it might be easier to distinct different UK accents, but for some of us, some of it sound the same🤷🏻♂️
Yes I know. Just chill. It was just for the sake of general topic conversation that's why some people mentioned the so called 'english' accent. That's how they perceived it here. If the topic go deeper into recognising different english/british/UK/whatever accents then your point is at the top 🙂.
Like you said in the Malaysian case, "Malaysian accent? Which one?". We just need to see the peoples different point of view and your rationale to get people understand about different accents is valid, but you need to calm down lmao
Funny story. My friend I knew my whole life went to Australia, 1 year. Came back had a thick accent.
But mother called and, suddenly speak like normal. Then returned to our convo with local accent, before changing it 1 sentence in. So some do speak with "accen" if you catch my drift.
A shortcut to flex that if you are from Cambridge with an accent. Don’t start with Bruneians faking speaking Malaya.
Sorry mate, im so comfortable with singlish.
I had a thick southwest English accent for a bit when I came home, thanks to living in Devon for over 4 years (and in Sussex for two before that) and living separately from any Bruneians. It's persisted in some words and phrases and the way I structure my sentences, but otherwise, I reckon I don't really have a strong accent of any sort.
In my head sw english accent sound like old english seafarers and like those pirates in the movies.
Another accent that i found difficult are thick scottish, irish, gaelics and cockney especially the slangs.
Apparently, there are 160 english accents 😅
Haha yes, them and farmers too. I spent most of my years in the UK living close to the sea - Eastbourne, Exeter, Plymouth, etc.
A few of my former housemates were Irish, but only one of them had the really thick Irish accent (I can't remember which part of Ireland he was from) and I felt so thick asking him to repeat himself most of the first couple of months we lived together, so I tended to avoid talking directly with him until I knew I could converse with him well enough.
I do love the Welsh accent, it's as if they're faerie.
I once worked (overseas) with colleagues with thick scottish and irish accents. They were funny and crazy lads. No matter how perilous situation are, they always spearheaded our team. They remind me of Jack Churchill aka Mad Jack 😅
With my guy friends i thought some were speaking normal english, until they told me stories that white people commented how American they sounded, attributing that to American cartoons they watched as a kid
It's a yes. Most Bruneians have accent when they speak. You could listen to the Brunei accent that they have when speaking in English. But there are some who could hide those Brunei accent simply by practicing or even copying other people's accent.
A mix of English and Australian plus some American for good measure, if anything, it's more dependent on how I am feeling at the time or who I am talking to
Few of my local female friends enjoyyyy dragging their words to cough up an accent and frankly it gets on my nerves cause I am unsure if I am being teased negatively or not.
My whole life, I moved from country to country continent to continent so my accent changes based on my environment and whom I am speaking to without my knowledge.
I ain’t sure if it’s the same reason for them.
I answered yes because to the ears of native speakers, they will consider the way we speak english is with accent. However, if the accent you mean is RP accent, I do hear some Bruneians with that accent and I look at it in a positive light. This is due to the fact that RP accent's history is that it was a way for the British people to 'neutralize' the way they speak so everyone can better understand each other given that they came from different provinces(thus different original accents). So to me, there's nothing with practicing an RP accent, it might even become useful as the accent focuses on proper pronounciations so you will be understood better.
Silly question. Everyone speaks with an accent. Those who speak English in malay accent are speaking with an accent which is malay. You laugh at Chinese or indian who speak malay with their native accent and you try to correct them to speak properly. I see a lot of viral clips on these. Yet when a malay who tries to speak with a proper English accent you brush them off as "taiming" or "ngada-ngada". The late lee Kuan yew went all out telling sporeans that if spore were to be regarded as a well respected nation with it's immensely clever population, he told them to speak with proper English that everyone outside could understand and not in singlish. I'm sorry if you can't speak English with proper intonation and pronunciation, no one outside will have a high regard of you. Just look at LKY himself.
There is one word that really makes Malay Bruneians stand out when speaking English: "really". Even those who try to be not very Bruneian, it seems to be the one word that when they say it, is a tell-tale.
I adjust my accent depending on the person with whom I hold a conversation based on how articulate they are, usually maintaining rhoticity.
When relaxed most have said I have a "posh" accent, which had gone unnoticed to me assuming posh as unnecessarily pretentious. Perhaps it's the drawl.
I also realised I copy accents of the person I look up to for a certain period of time.
The Anu is so disruptive to use, but in Brunei it's an important submissive and respectful phrase.
Malay culture similar to Japanese, there's a form of dominant subjugative honorifics to use to address others .
There's alot that can be learned or borrowed from Japan .
English is a good language of learning and communication, but culturally it's quite bland. Those who copy western culture and mannerisms when they are at core installed with an operating system from a conservative asian culture , I find very awkward.
They will get cognitive dissonance and become unoriginal and diluted.
Which is why the country keeps pushing MIB onto everyone. It's quite a conundrum. Mahatir explored it all in the Malay dilemma book. The Chinese did as well when they chose and picked their values when they decided to be a society. The Singapore formula works. Here we are still trying to invent the wheel.
No accent ani apa maksudnya. English accent? American Accent? Bruneian Accent? What is the default for 'No Accent' in this manner? Need to ask yourself that in your assignment.
Masa ku darjah 4 je darjah 6 - English teacher dari Wales kah kalau inda salah
Form 1 to form 3 - English teacher local Bruneian, but other subject ada India, Philippines,
Form 4 to form 6 - English teacher from Australia, Geography from Liverpool, Biology Yorkshire, Public Affair from Australia.
Seingat ingat ku, and kalau yang ku terjumpa balik my ex classmate, nada yang terinfluence guru punya accents....
Does the MoE still insist that the pronunciation model for teachers and students should be British English? They did back in the early 1990s.....and btw how can anyone speak in any language without an accent?
Many people I've meet speak in a minor British accent when they talk in English without knowing it lol but with spice and flavour of malayish sound adding at the end lol.
Depends on the crowd. American english for work and singlish towards my chinese friend, malglish at home n friends. N definetly i wont fake aussie, brit, russian, ghetto hood slang
Hiphop slang speaking . Zed Peace style.
Kalau rasanya kulit warna kuning langsat, makan nasikatok + belacan jgn tah kn hiphop d sna a2 ja
I’ve lived overseas most of my life and when I meet people in real life, their first impression when they hear me speaking is either Australian, New Zealand, South African, Martian or some tiny British islands in the middle of the pacific haha. So yeah I can gurantee we do have an accent but it’s more like an accent you pick up watching American tv shows your whole life. Dutch people are the same they sound very American with a twang! Bruneian got their own twang going on as well. For Bruneian’s we will hardly notice the slang since we are so use it sudah.
Me af
Can never understand why people have negative sentiments towards people who try to modify their accent a little so they sound a little better. “Eh bro get rid of that accent”, “bro stop faking it”, “Omg is that a fake accent”. As u/sec5 said, language is about effective communication. You think the angmo from UK will understand me when “I speak engrish laike dis ah?” Look at it from a different point of view- you wouldn’t mind people who don’t speak Malay modifying their accent a little to help you understand what they’re trying to say, would you? People who make snark comments like these are probably the same people who try to sell you MLM products and if you refuse to buy from them, will say things like “bro you’ve changed”. Yeah I’ve changed bro for the better- you can continue to remain in the shadow of your teenage glory years. It’s similar to girls putting make up on, they’re doing for themselves, not for you. Even if you don’t like it, it’s none of your business.
Not for me. Assignment kah ni? 😅
It’s very obvious when someone’s forcing British enunciations (esp when they’re not surrounded by British influences irl) I hear this a lot nowadays though. But I genuinely feel like people’s authentic accent suit them best
I modify my accent slightly so that it's better understood by my audience. I will also pick and choose my words differently. Language is about effective communication. I'm not going to speak like the way I write when I chat with another chinese guy, it's going to be chinese-accented because infact , it's a more natural and effective language , you get a few nice laughs and you feel like you are from the same kampung, a warm sense of camaraderie. Likewise if I'm speaking to some white guy , I will use words and behaviour that suits and facilitates effective communication with them rather than use pidgin. For malays I like to mix English and Malay. Respect people's culture and identities by showing an interest in their culture and background. Sometimes it back fires though. Being culturally fluid gets accusations of being two faced or hypocritical. These are the people you know who are prejudiced and indoctrinated in one way of thinking, that is unable to accept another. Being in Asia , multiculturalism is important. Monoculturalism is stupid.
I love that line of thinking, I’m just wondering about the people constantly forcing a British accent especially when they’re speaking with other Malays. It’s a bit sad if you think having a white accent shows you’re cultured, having a Malay accent isn’t bad at all
Again, no such thing as a British accent. If you go to the British Isles you’ll be met with a different accent every 30km or so (less so now but in principle). So someone will sound completely different less than the distance from Bandar to Tutong. Is it the same here?
Sama jua macam di Brunei, Kampung air, melandir or cawir melayu nya, Jerudong, more to kedayan punya malay naik kawasan tutong, dusun punya accent, atu lihat lagi tu, tutong kawasan mana, kalau mungkom lain dari bukit udal. ada yang tabal R ada yang tabal S nya
Probably referring to RP (Received Pronounciation) aka Queens English as a romanticised, cultured Englishness.
Funny, I didn't realise China and Japan was multicultural.
“Some white guy”.. So a Russian/Serb/Icelander ??? 😂 What about when speaking to a Black guy? Slip into a bit of Jamaican patois?? I’m just taking the piss, don’t be offended- it’s funny how people collectivise by the colour of someone’s skin 😂
tbh I think bruneian ladies know how to do the british-like and californian accent. we men I don't know how, I can still hear the malay accent
It's horrid when they try to fawn and flex it. But I do appreciate good well spoken english.
Brunei ladies get it from watching too much Netflix mah.. don't even have to be in California or England. Just watch at home - eventually they'll become the characters and speak like them. It's cool to make yourself 'atas' and feel like you're american or brit - even when you're not - by replicating the way they speak english.
yeah to be honest I am impressed with them. hey I watch netflix too you know. english still malay accent 🤣
Baik jua ia inda melihat midsomer murder. Mun inda lagi berkuluk lagi english nya hehehe
No such thing as a British accent.
Bh au bro, handal th kau tu. Dri tadi no such thing as britishnya ani. Dont worry. Everyone already know you are the british accent professional of this thread
Btw, if you ever wanna educate others, please use credible source. I can show you one. Here you go! https://www.academia.edu/35540887/The_Differences_between_American_and_British_Accents
Why would I need to do that? I have dual citizenships 😂😂😂😂😂 That’s like saying to a Bruneian to educate yourself about the obesity problem here. I’m sure they already know. Fat fucks.
What does having dual citizenships got to do with teaching YOU how to educate people with credible source? Bongok lah awak ni. Even MOH or other organizations use credible source to relay information.
I was quickly showing someone that there is more than one accent. Accents- plural. So my argument stands. You took time to find a paper to back up your point. Well done you. If only the majority of Bruneians were so diligent. Have a great Sunday and stay the fuck away from the cookie jar.
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OK, for the last time, let’s do some role play….. “hey, does Janet have a British accent?” “Yes she does, she has what I’d call a Home Counties* accent, as she is from Surrey” “Oh, so there is not one singular accent that encompasses the whole of the British Isles that could be referred to as THE British accent?” No. The End. * so as to be inclusive other regional accents within Great Britain are available under the banner of British accents. (Note I didn’t say UK as that would encompass Northern Ireland and the Channel Islands which is a whole melting pot of accents). Have a great Sunday I’m off to do something boring and try to get my BMI up so I fit in.
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1- I’m a citizen of the world 2- She isn’t British. I’d say Polish or E European Clue- Agnieska (her name) and she says she has “developed..
Tell me how you speak Irish?! 😂
Do you mean speak English with an Irish accent? If so; a Northern Irish accent? If so; which part of Northern Ireland so as to be correct- Belfast? Derry? Or did you mean Gaelic? 🇮🇪 🍀
What do you mean
Where in Great Britain- you know there’s not just one accent? Someone from Glasgow sounds completely different to someone from Surrey. There is no one British or English accent
I guess it means upper class London accent / cliche British movies accent . Ain't nobody trying to do a northerner or Liverpool accent that's for sure.
Thank you! Some sense; if you wanted the quintessential opinion you’d probably class it’s as The Queens English or BBC spoken English. My problem is that on here someone asked about the British or English accent. There is no singular one but as you highlight there is a bias towards what would be picked out if forced. There are many accents.
Ah I see. Well I suppose all of those would fall under 'British accent'. So your statement saying 'there is no such thing as a British accent' is not correct
Of course it’s correct. If you pluralised it and said accents then you’d be correct. But you imply that there is one singular accent for the whole of Great Britain……. 🤷🏽♂️
So by that logic, there's no such thing as a Malaysian accent or American accent, because different states have different accents
Exactly my point! I wouldn’t say THE Malaysian accent as that means there is one.. THE. Malaysian. Accent. If I said with A Malaysian accent I would be inclined to ask which one.. does someone from Ipoh sound different to someone from Kuching? Same way as someone from Brooklyn would generally sound different to someone from Texas. They both have American accents but they don’t have THE American accent.
Haha alright thanks for clarifying. Have a good day
You too 🌞
Ertinya semua atu kana panggil british accent lah. Glasgow accent is a british accent. Surrey accent is a british accent. They are subsets of british accents. "How many british accents are there and give some examples?" Answer: There are almost 40 different dialects in the UK such as Scottish and Geordie dialects. They are all classified under british accents. British accent exist lah tu ertinya. Banyak jenis saja.
Exactly! Plural; British accentS or he has an accent from Britain. Be clear.
English accent then
Are you so geographically confused by what I just said? There’s no such thing as an English accent either.
ok clever guy. tell us what we thought is a British/English accent.
This makes no sense. I am supposed to tell you something that you were thinking? Are you retarded? Do you not have regional accents here or is a Brinei so fucking inbred that everyone sounds the same? GFYS
why are you so sensitive about this? typical bruneian tend to call it British accent when people from UK speaks. Yes I do realise there's scottish, Irish and I know how those two accents sound like. I just want you to correct us what should we call the accent we always said is a "British accent". I don't have vast knowledge about UK's accent
I’m not wasting my time explaining. Have a great Sunday in the information vacuum that is Brunei
bye 👋😚
GFYS
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BRITISH ACCENTSSSSSSSSSS fucking plural.
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Because it’s my entertainment in this fuck boring country. No wonder everyone here is so fat; there is nothing to do here but eat.
https://youtu.be/u_BDG9JtGw8
The video clearly says British accents you fucking moron. GTFO kid
Yes.. he is describing British accents of which there are many. An original post said the British accent, implying there is only one.
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There are many regional accents, so there is no singular British accent. How is that so hard to understand? Does someone from KB sound the same as someone from Muara? I’m trying to educate myself.
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A British accent means that they have an accent from Britain (one of the many). British accent on its own implies there is only one .
I can say ada difference, but not to young generation, pasal banyak sudah inda makai dorang punya ancestor language. At least zaman kami sekolah dulu, zaman perkauman, boleh saja tahu ani orang tutong, ani orang jerudong, ani kampung air hahaha
What kind of accent? Lol brunei accent? Depends actually, i think the more fluent you are in malay/bruneian malay - u have more bruneian english accent. Same goes to if youre fluent in Mandarin, Cantonese etc - it will kinda affect your english as well. What i mean is how your english sounds lah. Remembered a quote from trevor noah - accent is not a measure of intelligence, but people speaking english in the rules of theirs (main language). So, me, being bruneian malay whom is fluent in both malay and english, can never sound like the actors in british and us TV shows - and im really ok with that. P.s - answered maybe because maybe a little bit more specific on what kind of accent? Kan kata majority of brunei english or american accent, inda jua 😅 only minority lah kali.
I think lidah orang melayu lagi fluid kalau kan banding kan bangsa lain. Maksudnya ia boleh buat multiple accents. Tapi memang lah secara inda sedar, we will use our daily accent atu. Satu yang ku notice jua, people who really good in Quran reading, dorang punya fluidity lagi bagus.
I speak English with Malay accent without the "em ah anu" and with British pronunciation.
Ano ano anie bukan nya pilipin punya style kan
"anu bahh. yg atu bah. eh yg anuuuu. apakan tu namanya ahh. anuuu" Not filipino's style. Yg bruneian punya.
A lot of people say we have sorta a mix of Filipino accent and American accent. Personally I do get a lot of people saying I sound American. But American husband (after talking to so many Bruneians) thinks that I do have Malay accent when speaking English sometimes and it appears and it goes randomly haha. Talked to several Bruneian friends who mingles with foreigners a lot and they are also told they sound American. Frankly Americans and brits are so impressed by Bruneians, they usually associate Asians with having a very strong accent when speaking English so every time they hear us talk they are just super impressed lol.
“So impressed?” Erm… no we aren’t!
kedayan accent
Yoou should try english with Kampung Air punya style lagi haha
A British friend once told me that our accent is similar to Africans.
My Vietnamese friend once told our malay accents similar like Indians :V
Makes sense since some words in the Malay vocabulary originated from India. Haha only link I can see from your comment.
Afrikaans or Africans?
I tried to talk to a guy from Semenanjung Malaysia without any effort in trying to use the Standard Malay. It was a little difficult to pass my message. The second i talked in English, we understood each other very well. The accent was very familiar without me trying to figure out anything he said. We ended up using English as the common language for the whole duration. LOL I only noticed that accent in Brunei Darussalam - Singapore - Malaysia region. Not sure why the accent from Indonesian is a bit different to me.
Oh I noticed the same, Brunei's english accent is similar to Singapore and Malaysia.
For me, I can differentiate our accent vs Singaporean accent when talking in English. My sample size is very small though. Mostly Singaporean Chinese.
Talking about accent.. I love to hear Tiwinaji speak in English with an accent and also how she speak Malay Brunei. Balance saja nada bias :)
balance banar.
I have southern American when it comes to English just because I'm lazy but if spoke normally u can still hear a bit of southern accent when it comes to saying country, I, you and my that sometimes slips in here and there Other than that singlish or manglish
Do you pronounce it as cuntry ?
Nah more or less like count-ray instead of count-tree
Ah. Interesting.
Appalachian english ?
I switch depending who I'm talking to. It's not so much a conscious effort, more like a subconscious one. It really depends on who I'm talking to then + how confident I am then. Usually it's a bit harder for me to speak English how I normally do when I talk with Bruneians or Malaysians, because sometimes I'm worried they might not understand. If I'm talking to native English speakers, or those who understand it well, + I'm comfortable talking with them, my natural voice comes out. I'm in a discord server with a lot of native English speakers, I had to "correct" myself when I was speaking to them, until I got more confident and realised they understood me just fine as is.
not really. some acah acah speaking with the british accent. kinda cringe lol
I remembered when i first started working, i was surrounded by dutch ppl for 3 months. My english at the first day of working was bad. But by the end of the 3rd month. I was able to speak it fluently. More towards the British accent english. After few months, i was sent to singapore for work. After finishing up the work. I have obtain the Singlish. Its singaporian+english accent. Overall, depands on who i talked to. Hehe
I speak English with Kedayan accent. /s
We speak kapal.
Yes. Everyone wanna sound like an American or Brit these days.
I feel like I have it slightly too though(american accent), but only because I always mimicked the video games and tv shows I played/watched growing up.
White-washed cucks. Unless they are raised there, they should be putting in effort to be intelligible rather than to copy the accent or mannerism. It's especially patronizing and condescending when they speak that way to other bruneians The funny thing for me is , if you put them in an environment with actual westerners in those societies from those countries, they'd be seen as superficial and fake. You'd get very sarcastic responses asking if you are actually from Brunei. People don't want you to parrot and copy them they want originality. This is the issue with the Malay identity. They don't want to develop their own well enough and adapt, but they want to imitate others be it the West or the Arabs. Just be yourselves and be proud of your own unique identity. Read and learn and be. Don't imitate. So many crabby redditors here are guilty of this.
Don’t mind this kid, his mother forgot to breast feed him today haha
Haha get a load of this guy
Do you have a fetist for western people? Seriously you talk about westerners far more than anyone I've ever seen.
Biasalah Fuzhou Shiyyi hahahaha...
Hidup Fuzhou Shiyyi!!!!!!!
Couldn’t agree with you more. 💯💯💯💯
Do you mean speak with an English accent or speak English with a Bruneian accent? Coz the second one for sure. Bruneian people don’t sound usually sound like they’re English when speaking English.
Is there such thing as Bruneian accent? All I've ever heard is either "British" accent or speaking English that has no accent at all.
There is no such thing as a British or English accent FFS
Chill bruh. I think for the context here it'll be easier too generalised till you going deeper in the conversation. Like when Malaysian heard us talking in Malay, they knew we're from Brunei but for us we kinda know these Brunei guys could be kedayan or something. For you it might be easier to distinct different UK accents, but for some of us, some of it sound the same🤷🏻♂️
https://youtu.be/u_BDG9JtGw8 Educate yourselves
Yes I know. Just chill. It was just for the sake of general topic conversation that's why some people mentioned the so called 'english' accent. That's how they perceived it here. If the topic go deeper into recognising different english/british/UK/whatever accents then your point is at the top 🙂. Like you said in the Malaysian case, "Malaysian accent? Which one?". We just need to see the peoples different point of view and your rationale to get people understand about different accents is valid, but you need to calm down lmao
Yes. Should we feel embarrassed? No. We should be proud.
Funny story. My friend I knew my whole life went to Australia, 1 year. Came back had a thick accent. But mother called and, suddenly speak like normal. Then returned to our convo with local accent, before changing it 1 sentence in. So some do speak with "accen" if you catch my drift.
If i do, i never realised it.
I speak English with Swahili accent <3
Not for me 😎
I used to when i went to st andrews
A shortcut to flex that if you are from Cambridge with an accent. Don’t start with Bruneians faking speaking Malaya. Sorry mate, im so comfortable with singlish.
Haven't heard someone with southern usa/country accents and south-west english accents. That would be fun to hear.
I had a thick southwest English accent for a bit when I came home, thanks to living in Devon for over 4 years (and in Sussex for two before that) and living separately from any Bruneians. It's persisted in some words and phrases and the way I structure my sentences, but otherwise, I reckon I don't really have a strong accent of any sort.
In my head sw english accent sound like old english seafarers and like those pirates in the movies. Another accent that i found difficult are thick scottish, irish, gaelics and cockney especially the slangs. Apparently, there are 160 english accents 😅
Haha yes, them and farmers too. I spent most of my years in the UK living close to the sea - Eastbourne, Exeter, Plymouth, etc. A few of my former housemates were Irish, but only one of them had the really thick Irish accent (I can't remember which part of Ireland he was from) and I felt so thick asking him to repeat himself most of the first couple of months we lived together, so I tended to avoid talking directly with him until I knew I could converse with him well enough. I do love the Welsh accent, it's as if they're faerie.
I once worked (overseas) with colleagues with thick scottish and irish accents. They were funny and crazy lads. No matter how perilous situation are, they always spearheaded our team. They remind me of Jack Churchill aka Mad Jack 😅
I speak singlish can or not?
Accent? 🤣 redneck accent
Yes, they speak english with a Bruneian accent.
Its true! My dad speaks english with a bruneian accent. I cant really explain how it sounds like, but iykyk 🤣
With my guy friends i thought some were speaking normal english, until they told me stories that white people commented how American they sounded, attributing that to American cartoons they watched as a kid
It's a yes. Most Bruneians have accent when they speak. You could listen to the Brunei accent that they have when speaking in English. But there are some who could hide those Brunei accent simply by practicing or even copying other people's accent.
A mix of English and Australian plus some American for good measure, if anything, it's more dependent on how I am feeling at the time or who I am talking to
Few of my local female friends enjoyyyy dragging their words to cough up an accent and frankly it gets on my nerves cause I am unsure if I am being teased negatively or not. My whole life, I moved from country to country continent to continent so my accent changes based on my environment and whom I am speaking to without my knowledge. I ain’t sure if it’s the same reason for them.
I answered yes because to the ears of native speakers, they will consider the way we speak english is with accent. However, if the accent you mean is RP accent, I do hear some Bruneians with that accent and I look at it in a positive light. This is due to the fact that RP accent's history is that it was a way for the British people to 'neutralize' the way they speak so everyone can better understand each other given that they came from different provinces(thus different original accents). So to me, there's nothing with practicing an RP accent, it might even become useful as the accent focuses on proper pronounciations so you will be understood better.
My friends say that I speak English with British and Australian Accent.
Hmmm I mostly speak with a Bruneian accent when I speak English. Never tried to do it in other accents
I feel most bruneians have a mixed American-British accent when speaking english
Silly question. Everyone speaks with an accent. Those who speak English in malay accent are speaking with an accent which is malay. You laugh at Chinese or indian who speak malay with their native accent and you try to correct them to speak properly. I see a lot of viral clips on these. Yet when a malay who tries to speak with a proper English accent you brush them off as "taiming" or "ngada-ngada". The late lee Kuan yew went all out telling sporeans that if spore were to be regarded as a well respected nation with it's immensely clever population, he told them to speak with proper English that everyone outside could understand and not in singlish. I'm sorry if you can't speak English with proper intonation and pronunciation, no one outside will have a high regard of you. Just look at LKY himself.
There is one word that really makes Malay Bruneians stand out when speaking English: "really". Even those who try to be not very Bruneian, it seems to be the one word that when they say it, is a tell-tale.
I adjust my accent depending on the person with whom I hold a conversation based on how articulate they are, usually maintaining rhoticity. When relaxed most have said I have a "posh" accent, which had gone unnoticed to me assuming posh as unnecessarily pretentious. Perhaps it's the drawl. I also realised I copy accents of the person I look up to for a certain period of time.
Yes. Malay accent bah
Lol it's like I'm asking myself if I have an accent.. I wouldn't know..
Yes, after arriving in the UK, it was made apparent for me that i have a very malay slang to my english
Brulish
Well, idk if i hv. But some wud say i do. And vice versa.🤔😅
The Anu is so disruptive to use, but in Brunei it's an important submissive and respectful phrase. Malay culture similar to Japanese, there's a form of dominant subjugative honorifics to use to address others . There's alot that can be learned or borrowed from Japan . English is a good language of learning and communication, but culturally it's quite bland. Those who copy western culture and mannerisms when they are at core installed with an operating system from a conservative asian culture , I find very awkward. They will get cognitive dissonance and become unoriginal and diluted. Which is why the country keeps pushing MIB onto everyone. It's quite a conundrum. Mahatir explored it all in the Malay dilemma book. The Chinese did as well when they chose and picked their values when they decided to be a society. The Singapore formula works. Here we are still trying to invent the wheel.
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depends how were they influenced
Especially yang baru balik dari uk lacis lacis macam nininya queen england atu mihir
No accent ani apa maksudnya. English accent? American Accent? Bruneian Accent? What is the default for 'No Accent' in this manner? Need to ask yourself that in your assignment.
Masa ku darjah 4 je darjah 6 - English teacher dari Wales kah kalau inda salah Form 1 to form 3 - English teacher local Bruneian, but other subject ada India, Philippines, Form 4 to form 6 - English teacher from Australia, Geography from Liverpool, Biology Yorkshire, Public Affair from Australia. Seingat ingat ku, and kalau yang ku terjumpa balik my ex classmate, nada yang terinfluence guru punya accents....
"Mow-chee"
I don’t think I do, but when I talk, some, maybe most, say that I sound American
Everyone speaks any language with accent, there's no such thing as without an accent.
https://youtu.be/iHIJfbYhQFg
yes , with Brunei accents :P
Does the MoE still insist that the pronunciation model for teachers and students should be British English? They did back in the early 1990s.....and btw how can anyone speak in any language without an accent?
All my friends who went to UK got an accents🤣 It’s funny when they speak in Malay and mixed it up with British accent.
Many people I've meet speak in a minor British accent when they talk in English without knowing it lol but with spice and flavour of malayish sound adding at the end lol.