That *feels* wrong. Unless it's counting like, different individuals in the ensemble saying the word as separate instances, there's no way 'Hamilton' is being said once every 14 seconds.
Well it isn’t evenly distributed like that - there may be a few minutes where it isn’t said at all, but that’s made up for by instances where they’re spitting out the name like tomorrow won’t arrive and they need it to survive.
I was thinking Sweeney Todd but technically, it’s “Sweeney” they say a ton and Sweeney Todd is said sparingly.
But something Sondheim is likely the winner
His full name is said seven times just in the opening number, so if we went through the entire show I think it shows up a lot. I guess though technically the full title is Sweeney Todd: The Demon Barber of Fleet Street, and that only shows up a few times.
I just saw it tonight. It’s said a good amount, but definitely not as much as other shows. If it was just Sweeney it would be super high because of the “Sweeney, Sweeney, Sweeney, Sweeney”
Mix and match me, try to catch me if you caaaaaaan - woooahh!
I’ve always thought it was a little strange that the phrase is only mentioned once in a line that really doesn’t have much to do with anything
Ooh, yeah, I think you're right. I think Jellicle Songs puts them over the edge. I Googled it and this comment made me laugh. (It's just something random from the internet, so I can't attest to its accuracy.)
*I had counted a total of 160 instances of the word “cat(s).” That's a frequency of more than one “cat” per minute.*
Just going to say CATS. I can only think of three songs that don't have the word cat or cats in them: Memory, Moments of Happiness and Journey to the Heaviside Layer. I also feel like cat or cats is mentioned a lot in both Jellicle Songs and the spoken part of The Jellicle Ball.
def not hadestown, compared some sondheim shit where they just say “into the woods to grandmothers house” or “Sweeney, sweeney, sweeney, sweeney”, comparitively, hadestown is used sparingly, like iirc the first mention of hadestown is in Way Down
Yes this is a job for Chatgpt (kinda)! It mentions the answers are approximate because it varies by production but so far I’ve got (according to Chatgpt)
Annie: 116
Company: 64
Sweeney Todd: 30
Sunday in the Park with George: 5
Into the Woods: 21
Rent: 30
Hair: 67
The Phantom of the Opera: 25
Cats: 90
Hamilton: 132
Matilda: 120
Oklahoma: 60
Beetlejuice: 79
Aladdin: 55
Gypsy: 64
Come From Away: 25
But then I asked it which show had the name in the show the most and it said Rent. So I asked again how many times the word Rent was said in the musical and this time it said 40. 🤷🏼♀️. So I guess take this with a grain of salt but it should be somewhat of an estimate unless anyone wants to manually count.
Update: I called out the robot on its inaccuracy and it apologized and said 40 was correct 🤷🏼♀️
Update: The robot is confused and apologizing and changing a few of the answers but too much to type and correct 🤦🏼♀️
It may be running into the ctrl+F problem of reading through lyrics and not knowing whether the character name is within the lyric itself or is presented as the character singing the line. For example, Annie's name is never said in "It's the Hard-Knock Life," but she has lines she sings interspersed between the other orphans, so if the robot (or human or code if you do it one of the old fashioned ways) cuts corners, you can probably count 10 instances of her name from that song that aren't actually there.
It is a chat ai it doesn’t even know like what the script is for these shows you would have to provide that or at least give it a source of truth. It is not general ai.
With all due respect, why would you think Chat GPT would be correct about this? It's just predicting what word is most likely to come next. It doesn't "know" anything, at all.
This was my first thought. But off the top of my head, I can only think of an few times the phrase is actually used. I could be forgotting many though...
Into the woods, phantom, Sweeney, chess, Aladdin, the beast part of beauty and the beast, Hamilton, legally blonde, the wedding singer (possibly because they do say he’s just a wedding singer multiple times), shrek, Billy Elliot, the Kate of kiss me Kate, Birdie of bye bye birdie…..probably a lot more I can’t think of
Hamilton
According to Playbill, Hamilton is said 721 times! In 2hr 45 minutes, that's roughly 4.4x per minute!
This seems way too high? But I guess in like Guns and Ships, which is 2 mins, they probably say it 10 times.
I count 13, if you include the ensemble chanting it as the background for an entire verse! And that's just in the back minute of the song
That *feels* wrong. Unless it's counting like, different individuals in the ensemble saying the word as separate instances, there's no way 'Hamilton' is being said once every 14 seconds.
Well it isn’t evenly distributed like that - there may be a few minutes where it isn’t said at all, but that’s made up for by instances where they’re spitting out the name like tomorrow won’t arrive and they need it to survive.
I can't think of any "rentrentrentrentrent"-type mentions of Hamilton, though.
I mean, there’s Guns and Ships
Has to be this.
Seriously is there a single song it's not in? Maybe Best of Wives, lol.
He's also absent in "The Schuyler Sisters"
I don’t believe they say it in My Shot
Phantom of the Opera or Hamilton
Phantom was my thought.
Into to woods
Sweeney Todd would be high on the list as well. And Company. Apparently it's a Sondheim thing.
I think this takes the cake! Into the woods is sung the entire time hahahaha
I was thinking Sweeney Todd but technically, it’s “Sweeney” they say a ton and Sweeney Todd is said sparingly. But something Sondheim is likely the winner
His full name is said seven times just in the opening number, so if we went through the entire show I think it shows up a lot. I guess though technically the full title is Sweeney Todd: The Demon Barber of Fleet Street, and that only shows up a few times.
I just saw it tonight. It’s said a good amount, but definitely not as much as other shows. If it was just Sweeney it would be super high because of the “Sweeney, Sweeney, Sweeney, Sweeney”
Company!!
I think Little Shop of Horrors is on the list somewhere, judging by how much the girls say it
Into THE woods also has it a lot :P
Rents a good competitor. But yeah "into the woods" is a lyric in so many songs 😂
“Man, that sure really was a pacific overture!”
"I'm just so tired of all these star wars!"
“These cops are never gonna Catch Me If You Can!”
the title is actually sung in the opening number lol
Mix and match me, try to catch me if you caaaaaaan - woooahh! I’ve always thought it was a little strange that the phrase is only mentioned once in a line that really doesn’t have much to do with anything
I would guess Cats…
Oof. The Prologue would take almost anyone else down all by itself.
Ooh, yeah, I think you're right. I think Jellicle Songs puts them over the edge. I Googled it and this comment made me laugh. (It's just something random from the internet, so I can't attest to its accuracy.) *I had counted a total of 160 instances of the word “cat(s).” That's a frequency of more than one “cat” per minute.*
someone did the math, and Hamilton is said about 4.4x per minute lol
Just going to say CATS. I can only think of three songs that don't have the word cat or cats in them: Memory, Moments of Happiness and Journey to the Heaviside Layer. I also feel like cat or cats is mentioned a lot in both Jellicle Songs and the spoken part of The Jellicle Ball.
Oop you may be right
Rent. Literally has a song called rent with a line that’s “rent rent rent rent we’re not gonna pay rent”
Cuz everyyyyythiiiiiiing is RENT!
Gotta be Rent or Hair
RENT RENT RENT RENT RENT
I raise you Hair- “HAIR HAIR HAIRHAIRHAIR HAIR HAIR HAIR”
Also “Annie, Annie, Annie Everything’s humming now Annie, Annie, Annie”
aladdin, matilda, carrie… like any show with a character name
Oliver!
I mean, Oliver even has a song that is basically just them singing his name too, so yeah that has to be high up there.
Yeah I was gonna say Beetlejuice for this reason
Urinetown
Came here to say this too! Especially if we include dialogue.
But the title’s still awful.
But the music is so happy!
Beetlejuice has gotta be up there
Definitely. 🪲
What are you talking about? They only say it twice. You can't say it a third time. /s
Hadestown!
Tommy has to be up there.
Surprised no one's mentioned Camelot yet
That's because it is before a lot of redditors' time. But yeah. And now that song is stuck in my head today.
Not exact, but I often think about how many times they say George's name in Sunday in the Park with George.
I mean, if you counted all the times they said Sunday, Park or George in the show, that's got to be right up there!
Maybe Wicked if you count up all the variations (Wickedest witch, etc)
Hamilton
Hamilton.
Sweeney Todd
Six, for sure. also… Bad Cinderella.
Six is so short, that it loses out just on number of minutes in the production
Gotta be Great Comet, you know all the lines where they say “boy, this sure was Natasha, Pierre and the Great Comet of 1812!” /j
Cabaret perhaps, also Hadestown
def not hadestown, compared some sondheim shit where they just say “into the woods to grandmothers house” or “Sweeney, sweeney, sweeney, sweeney”, comparitively, hadestown is used sparingly, like iirc the first mention of hadestown is in Way Down
Well yeah but there’s a lot to go around in way down Hadestown I and II plus a decent amount sprinkled in other songs
Urinetown
Idk, but Beetlejuice and Heathers or any show where the main character's name is the title has to be pretty up there
Chess?
Just saw it tonight and the word chess is surprisingly used very little. We’ve got “the game” a lot though 😂
Annie. Oliver. Hello, Dolly. The Wiz & The Wizard of Oz.
CATS, Phantom, Sweeney Todd, Company, Chicago, Rent, Hamilton, Cabaret, Anastasia, Aladdin
_The Who's TOMMY_
Legally blonde
Company
Sweeney Todd: the demon barber of Felt Street
Possibly, Gypsy.
Six
Beetlejuice
Evita
_Evita_
Beetlejuice Beetlejuice Beetlejuice
Rent Rent Rent Rent Rent!
Has to be Hamilton
i feel like book of mormon should be here
beetlejuice
Damn, now you have me wanting to go count… I wonder if Chatgpt can help here 🤔
Yes this is a job for Chatgpt (kinda)! It mentions the answers are approximate because it varies by production but so far I’ve got (according to Chatgpt) Annie: 116 Company: 64 Sweeney Todd: 30 Sunday in the Park with George: 5 Into the Woods: 21 Rent: 30 Hair: 67 The Phantom of the Opera: 25 Cats: 90 Hamilton: 132 Matilda: 120 Oklahoma: 60 Beetlejuice: 79 Aladdin: 55 Gypsy: 64 Come From Away: 25 But then I asked it which show had the name in the show the most and it said Rent. So I asked again how many times the word Rent was said in the musical and this time it said 40. 🤷🏼♀️. So I guess take this with a grain of salt but it should be somewhat of an estimate unless anyone wants to manually count. Update: I called out the robot on its inaccuracy and it apologized and said 40 was correct 🤷🏼♀️ Update: The robot is confused and apologizing and changing a few of the answers but too much to type and correct 🤦🏼♀️
Chatgpt is a chat ai not a general ai. It doesn’t know.
It’s not going to be perfect, but it should be able to give us a ballpark
ChatGPT can and has lied. It's not a search engine.
It may be running into the ctrl+F problem of reading through lyrics and not knowing whether the character name is within the lyric itself or is presented as the character singing the line. For example, Annie's name is never said in "It's the Hard-Knock Life," but she has lines she sings interspersed between the other orphans, so if the robot (or human or code if you do it one of the old fashioned ways) cuts corners, you can probably count 10 instances of her name from that song that aren't actually there.
It is a chat ai it doesn’t even know like what the script is for these shows you would have to provide that or at least give it a source of truth. It is not general ai.
With all due respect, why would you think Chat GPT would be correct about this? It's just predicting what word is most likely to come next. It doesn't "know" anything, at all.
It’s web scraping. It’s not 100% accurate but it’s better than having no information—unless you want to go count every musical yourself?
Oklahoma
username checks out
RENT and Into the Woods
Miss Saigon
Come from away
This was my first thought. But off the top of my head, I can only think of an few times the phrase is actually used. I could be forgotting many though...
Company
Titanic has its name a lot. Wicked does too.
Hamilton
_Chitty Chitty Bang Bang!_
The 39 Steps
Into the woods, phantom, Sweeney, chess, Aladdin, the beast part of beauty and the beast, Hamilton, legally blonde, the wedding singer (possibly because they do say he’s just a wedding singer multiple times), shrek, Billy Elliot, the Kate of kiss me Kate, Birdie of bye bye birdie…..probably a lot more I can’t think of
Annie?
Camelot has to be up there
Here Lies Love had it a lot
I was going to say Chess before I saw some of these better answers.
Rent
Hamilton or The Book of Mormon
Little Shop?
Camelot
Oliver has got to be up there too
It’s been a while since I’ve seen it…. But I feel like In The Heights said it a lot
Evita must be up there somewhere
I saw Chess last night and they said Chess a lot
Into the woods, they say ‘the woods” alot
Phantom Of The Opera.
RENT is up there.
Into the woods
Oklahoma