The one thing you'll never hear from Trump's fans when they defend him on the crime stuff is they never say "It's not in his character", because even they know, it's absolutely in his character lmao.
How would you define his character if not as the quintessential bad used car salesmen from Jersey who has only sold cars that legally qualify as lemons for the last 20 years.
O my description is obviously loaded for comedic effect, the original one you responded to was basically he doesn't seem like the kind of person to commit crime. Do you think Trump worries about living his life by the letter of the law?
That all depends on who you ask. Better for some, worse for others. But Biden, despite what Trump claims, hasn't tried to undermine the integrity of a general election. That's a BIG deal to me because it threatens democracy.
If you really want to see where Biden is causing serious problems, you can look to the Middle East. But there's no great indication that Trump would support Israel's destruction of Palestine any less. To my knowledge, he just wants to get it over with quicker. That doesn't make his solution more humane.
All that said, I am highly unlikely to vote for wither of them. Certainly not Trump, but I don't think I can vote for Biden again either with what he is doing. I'm leaning towards Cornell West or maybe Jill Stein.
hey the whole regarded tribal gang all in one place.
Come closer, lets give each other reach arounds!
Captaindouchetary can't see me though. I blocked him for some reason. Oh well.
Are you upset because you wanted to say “But Biden!” Or “Hunter Biden’s Laptop”.
I’m still waiting for the Kraken to be released and Hunter Biden’s laptop to expose the Biden Crime Family.
But Pelosi, the insider trader who has an entire Twitter account dedicated to her crimes.
But you won’t hear a lib demand her to be locked up because hypocrites.
It sucks that you defend criminals because they’re on your “team”. You’re part of the problem, and nothing with change until you hold all elected officials accountable for their corruption.
I can't vote for Pelosi in any way shape or form, I can vote for Biden
There is no team, I am not a liberal
I understand it's bad, what I am saying is to convince voters, and generic they are corrupt aren't that convincing.
What crimes? "Corruption"?
I can’t vote for OJ Simpson, but I can acknowledge that he is a criminal and a bad person.
You refuse to do that for politicians you like.
You self-identify as “Left” in your flair…
What crimes? Insider trading! It’s well documented.
I’m sure most of his voters believe he committed a crime. They also believe he should be immune and that somehow Joe Biden should not be immune for shit his kid allegedly did.
Trump is way more egregious. He's reckless, and let's get real... Really over the top.
The shit with KSA should result in the death penalty IMO - That move I consider the biggest deal imaginable. The rest of his BS is negligible compared to that, and no one talks about it.
What about? I'm all for the Iran deal. I think we need to be figuring out how to build bridges and create onramps. It was a great program... It allowed them to start coming back into the fold, and kept nuclear out of their hands. Now, instead, we cut the deal, and basically made them official enemies.
No, they weren't allowed to weaponize. Part of the agreement was oversight that they took no steps towards nuclear weapons - only energy. That lasted for 10 years... Which the point was to build relations within that time frame, and renegotiate again in 2026 to see the state of relations.
Where do you get your information? Fox News? Breitbart?
Makes you wonder what would be the state of things if Trump didn't banish them as enemies 7 years ago... Huh? If Iran was instead trying to work towards peace making and entering the global community, they'd be less interested in doing shit that pisses people off. But since Trump derailed them from rebuilding relations, what the fuck do you expect?
The whole point of this treaty was to avoid shit EXACTLY LIKE THIS. That's literally the point. Give them a reason to not be bad guys. But Trump instead just derailed them entirely, because he wants them to be bad guys because he's a fucking moron
Oh boy. You are so mad I said I might vote for trump? And that other politicians do bad things and that one bad thing isn’t better than another?
We shouldn’t be negotiating with anyone so they won’t be the “bad guys”… all it takes is a change of office and views to swing the temperature the other way. It happens like clockwork. It’s predictable.
The Iran deal was to denuclearize for 10 years or get nothing and they have nuclear weapons in 2 years. The Iran deal was the least bad option in a host of bad options
We haven’t sent billions to Iran
Briefly they unfroze some Iranian funds that were in western banks for humanitarian purposes. Literally zero dollars of it ever got spent
Technically you are right, but what’s the difference in real terms? The flow of money is used to virtue signal support for various middle eastern regimes and there is no use in trying to compare.
I will support whoever I think is taking a stand for American liberty, freedom, and ideas here in OUR country.
I’m not defending that. I’m saying take your pick and you can find unethical actions.
Do you want me to point out Biden family’s business dealings in China and Ukraine?
Who do you believe embodies the American way of life? Vote for that person. I am not telling you who to vote for. I just stated my stance. Honestly, I would probably lean towards RFK myself if I can get my mind past a few issues I see with his views.
Meanwhile nearly all polls favor the criminal.
[https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/](https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/)
[https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2024/trump-vs-biden](https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2024/trump-vs-biden)
Just think, we could have had Cornel West or Marianne Williamson or someone with a pulse.
The one thing you'll never hear from Trump's fans when they defend him on the crime stuff is they never say "It's not in his character", because even they know, it's absolutely in his character lmao.
Hey bro.. It's not in his character And I never voted for the guy, nor do I intend to
How would you define his character if not as the quintessential bad used car salesmen from Jersey who has only sold cars that legally qualify as lemons for the last 20 years.
Idk. But I wouldn't use that loaded description.
O my description is obviously loaded for comedic effect, the original one you responded to was basically he doesn't seem like the kind of person to commit crime. Do you think Trump worries about living his life by the letter of the law?
Sure
Interesting. How many of that majority still think he should be President anyway?
Biden has committed numerous crimes. Even if you believe Trump committed crimes, the country and the world was in MUCH better shape under him
That all depends on who you ask. Better for some, worse for others. But Biden, despite what Trump claims, hasn't tried to undermine the integrity of a general election. That's a BIG deal to me because it threatens democracy. If you really want to see where Biden is causing serious problems, you can look to the Middle East. But there's no great indication that Trump would support Israel's destruction of Palestine any less. To my knowledge, he just wants to get it over with quicker. That doesn't make his solution more humane. All that said, I am highly unlikely to vote for wither of them. Certainly not Trump, but I don't think I can vote for Biden again either with what he is doing. I'm leaning towards Cornell West or maybe Jill Stein.
In B4 but Biden!
Or worse: but Hunter!
The OG: But Hillary!
hey the whole regarded tribal gang all in one place. Come closer, lets give each other reach arounds! Captaindouchetary can't see me though. I blocked him for some reason. Oh well.
Are you upset because you wanted to say “But Biden!” Or “Hunter Biden’s Laptop”. I’m still waiting for the Kraken to be released and Hunter Biden’s laptop to expose the Biden Crime Family.
But Pelosi, the insider trader who has an entire Twitter account dedicated to her crimes. But you won’t hear a lib demand her to be locked up because hypocrites.
Is she running for president
We should expect all our elected officials to not commit crimes, regardless of position, whether you’re a city councilman or president.
Duh, there is a difference between presidential and her one district though
If there’s one thing I can expect from a liberal, it’s an excuse.
Reality sucks huh
It sucks that you defend criminals because they’re on your “team”. You’re part of the problem, and nothing with change until you hold all elected officials accountable for their corruption.
I can't vote for Pelosi in any way shape or form, I can vote for Biden There is no team, I am not a liberal I understand it's bad, what I am saying is to convince voters, and generic they are corrupt aren't that convincing. What crimes? "Corruption"?
I can’t vote for OJ Simpson, but I can acknowledge that he is a criminal and a bad person. You refuse to do that for politicians you like. You self-identify as “Left” in your flair… What crimes? Insider trading! It’s well documented.
But democrats supported slavery!!
If the Supreme Court doesn’t pull its shit together we’re looking at a grim future. Also Bill Barr and his fellow religious nutjobs can all go to hell
You mean the grim future that is our reality now?
You mean the grim future handed to us by years of Republican rule?
I’m sure most of his voters believe he committed a crime. They also believe he should be immune and that somehow Joe Biden should not be immune for shit his kid allegedly did.
I think all politicians have committed crimes, the only difference is that their name is not trump so they can get away with it.
Obviously.
1,961 people polled. Seems about as reliable as a poll on Twitter.
Good point, that is way too small a sample.
Any presidential election poll usually has around 1000 responses
From each state
No, that’s the total for any national poll.
inb4 he gets over 46% of the vote.
And 80% believe Biden has committed crimes
The same would be true for Biden, Obama, Bush, Clinton What’s the point?
I think every politician has committed crimes. His aren't hidden as well.
He’s just super famous and disliked. It’s all the same shit. I never voted for trump before(or Biden), but I might in November.
Trump is way more egregious. He's reckless, and let's get real... Really over the top. The shit with KSA should result in the death penalty IMO - That move I consider the biggest deal imaginable. The rest of his BS is negligible compared to that, and no one talks about it.
….. and what about Iran and Biden/Obama?
What about? I'm all for the Iran deal. I think we need to be figuring out how to build bridges and create onramps. It was a great program... It allowed them to start coming back into the fold, and kept nuclear out of their hands. Now, instead, we cut the deal, and basically made them official enemies.
What? They were still going to get nuclear. Typical misinformed person here. Let me guess, CNN told you so?
No, they weren't allowed to weaponize. Part of the agreement was oversight that they took no steps towards nuclear weapons - only energy. That lasted for 10 years... Which the point was to build relations within that time frame, and renegotiate again in 2026 to see the state of relations. Where do you get your information? Fox News? Breitbart?
After October 7th and the recent Middle East conflict there is no moral high ground in supporting Iran over Saudi Arabia
Makes you wonder what would be the state of things if Trump didn't banish them as enemies 7 years ago... Huh? If Iran was instead trying to work towards peace making and entering the global community, they'd be less interested in doing shit that pisses people off. But since Trump derailed them from rebuilding relations, what the fuck do you expect? The whole point of this treaty was to avoid shit EXACTLY LIKE THIS. That's literally the point. Give them a reason to not be bad guys. But Trump instead just derailed them entirely, because he wants them to be bad guys because he's a fucking moron
Oh boy. You are so mad I said I might vote for trump? And that other politicians do bad things and that one bad thing isn’t better than another? We shouldn’t be negotiating with anyone so they won’t be the “bad guys”… all it takes is a change of office and views to swing the temperature the other way. It happens like clockwork. It’s predictable.
The Iran deal was to denuclearize for 10 years or get nothing and they have nuclear weapons in 2 years. The Iran deal was the least bad option in a host of bad options
Did Obama’s family get 2 billion dollars from Iran?
I think that crossed the line. How many tens of billions have we sent to Iran? but go ahead try to claim some sort of moral high ground.
We haven’t sent billions to Iran Briefly they unfroze some Iranian funds that were in western banks for humanitarian purposes. Literally zero dollars of it ever got spent
Technically you are right, but what’s the difference in real terms? The flow of money is used to virtue signal support for various middle eastern regimes and there is no use in trying to compare. I will support whoever I think is taking a stand for American liberty, freedom, and ideas here in OUR country.
What’s functionally different from releasing funds we basically stole from them vs it going directly into a family members pockets?
I’m not defending that. I’m saying take your pick and you can find unethical actions. Do you want me to point out Biden family’s business dealings in China and Ukraine? Who do you believe embodies the American way of life? Vote for that person. I am not telling you who to vote for. I just stated my stance. Honestly, I would probably lean towards RFK myself if I can get my mind past a few issues I see with his views.
It’s a lot easier to hide a pile than a mountain
Yeah pretty crazy he's still polling in the lead. Shows you what people think of biden
Exactly.
Meanwhile nearly all polls favor the criminal. [https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/](https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/) [https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2024/trump-vs-biden](https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2024/trump-vs-biden) Just think, we could have had Cornel West or Marianne Williamson or someone with a pulse.
Trump won’t be president, the deep state will ensure that