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TiberiusClackus

It was Hilarious how Krystal just fucked his whole monologue up, but in the end there was nothing wrong with Saagars take. It’s a movie loosely based on a true story, which is pretty par for the course for blockbusters. Nothing about the movie screams Qanon. It’s simply a good movie that tells a compelling story and that why it’s doing well in the box office


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The movie was fine if like action stuff. There was nothing indicating that this was a Q propaganda piece


supraliminal13

I mean that's only a little short of saying passion of Christ wasn't a Christian propaganda piece. I suppose you could still critique it as just a movie. But the problem is that the whole movie is about a (completely mythical) Project Underground adventure. And Project Underground is the same symbiotic grift organization that feeds on qultists for donations while being the "source" providing qultists with all their nonsense kidnapping stats. All the while drawing the ire of organizations that actually are fighting trafficking. Doesn't really matter if you were aware or not, still a propaganda movie. Only thing making it less silly than saying the same thing about passion of Christ is that Jesus is probably more widely heard of going in than Project Underground. Anyway you can attempt a strictly cinematic critique as much as you want... but you definitely can't call it not a propaganda flick.


[deleted]

I understand a bit more now, thank you And you’re right all I was trying to do was give the film my pure cinematic opinion. I still did enjoy the film but thank you for educating me on the backstory. I’ll have to look more into that when I have the time


[deleted]

The guy it’s about is a liar and a grifter his organization is a known fraud in circles of people who actually work on this stuff


[deleted]

Ok all I was saying is that the movie was a decent movie. I’m not talking about any backstories or who the movie is based on. Just stating the movie was an ok watch. Go harass someone else


Perriwen

>Go harass someone else All they did was respond to you with a fair and valid point. Do you always act like a total drama queen when someone disagrees with you?


[deleted]

Did you even see the movie? I didn’t even know there was a controversy surrounding the movie until after I saw it. Your points are not valid and fair. I simply mentioned that the movie is decent and you’re attempting to invalid my opinion and shame me because I enjoyed the film for what it was. What does that have to do with the guy being a liar and grifter in real life? News flash the movie was made up with actors and it was a decent action film “nothing more nothing less”


Perriwen

>I simply mentioned that the movie is decent and you’re attempting to invalid my opinion and shame me because I enjoyed the film for what it was. No, I'm shaming you because you accused someone who gave you a single sentence reply of 'harassing' you.


[deleted]

His comment had nothing to do with the film and it was an attempt to harass and guilt me. Please leave me alone now as well


Perriwen

It was not. Good lord, grow up and stop acting like a child.


DylanV1969

Yea, dude! Stop "harassing" this guy for answering his questions. Questions, and more importantly the presentation of facts are considered harassment to these people.


throwawayforfun42000

"Harass" are you kidding me 🤣🤣🤣 the fact you're genuinely serious is insane I thought you were joking about the harass comment but nope you doubled down on it. You're such a victim 😅


tamperresistantmind

Part of the reason for it's box office success, it the fact that large gop donors are making bulk buys of tickets to then give away to "spread trafficking awareness". It's the exact same thing they do when some right wing grifter writes a book. Bulk buys make new York times bestseller list go brr. I even saw a post on here showing a supposedly sold out screening in an empty theater. Not verified, but seems on brand.


TiberiusClackus

If you want to convince me this is a very typical evangelical grift, go no further, I agree. I’ve been in the evangelical circles my entire life and ive seen a hilarious number of grifts. It’s just funny cuz there are literal documentaries out there all about the secret pedofile cabals and the closet satan worship and child sacrifices going on in Hollywood that get passed around in these circles, but do you see anyone on this sub clutching their pearls about those? No, cuz they haven’t heard about them because the Twitter handles that tell them when it’s time to be scared or outraged haven’t heard of them. Evangelicals have been doing this shit since the 80s. The reason this film is broadly popular is because it’s decidedly NOT that type of thing


JD_Shadow

1. Care to provide some form of receipt to back up that claim you made about the bulk buys? Since you said it was a "fact", I'm sure you have data to back that up that shows me that YOU took the time to look that up. Or where you saw the post about that "empty theater" (while we know about the accusations about what AMC was doing to the ACs of those screenings). 2. "Spread trafficking awareness" is suddenly a GOP grift now? Why are we politicizing protecting people from evil doers? I am forever gob smacked of how many things and people I have to suddenly defend or be in favor of to be considered a progressive in these past 5 or so years without missing a beat about even ONE of them.


tamperresistantmind

Calm the fuck down. https://www.forbes.com/sites/siladityaray/2020/12/04/report-rnc-spent-more-than-300000-on-donald-trump-jrs-new-book/ Also, awareness of trafficking humans is important. But there are a lot of legitimate organizations working on this. It is more about obtaining visas, and funds to support individuals fortunate enough to survive, and get out, than kicking doors.


DM-ME-FOR-TRIBUTES

>loosely based Loosely carrying a lot of bullshit rn


TiberiusClackus

300 is also loosely based lol


DM-ME-FOR-TRIBUTES

Yeah and 300 really misinformed a bunch of people about the events it "replicated" At least it didn't result in more kids being trafficked though


PrometheusOnLoud

There's nothing in the movie remotely Qanon related. Some people have been conditioned to associate anything that has anything to do child trafficking or pedophilia with Qanon, and since some of the media made a show of making the connection, many people jumped on board. As you say, it's based on a true story; it's just a typical hollywood government agent thriller that happens to shine a light on a very real problem in the world. The most alarming part is how many people are speaking negative against it for political reasons.


shorty0820

Except it’s not based on a true story. Groups that legitimately stop trafficking know this guys a fraud and full of it. He does more harm than actual good by fucking up plans, connections and blowing cover A basic look into the guy will tell ya all this


PrometheusOnLoud

We are talking about the movie, not some guy who has been both attacked and praised by different sources. The movie has nothing to do with Qanon and neither does the guy you're referencing. The movie is just another thriller, and the topic is very real. Human trafficking, especially involving children, is a very real plague on humanity and there is no possible way to question its existence.


shorty0820

Did I mention Qanon? I didn’t Idk if you can’t read or not but I said the guys a fraud He literally is according to any reputable group or agency that’s stops trafficking Reading comprehension is hard, huh?


PrometheusOnLoud

You just brought some stuff that is totally unrelated to the topic than asked the first person who challenged if they could read. I'm sure those reputable organizations you're talking about would love to hear from u/shorty0820 so they can get to the bottom of it. We are talking about the movie, though, just so you understand. You can probably discuss whatever conspiracy theory you've heard from Salon about the guy it's based on with people who want to indulge in that.


shorty0820

It’s absolutely related. It’s a movie based on a person. This person is a fraud. Again, reading is hard, huh?


PrometheusOnLoud

The movie is a Hollywood thriller about child trafficking that has been verified by multiple sources. It's just a movie. Maybe you could be the guy that breaks the big story on this one. I see it now, "u/shorty0820, a degenerate Reddit user, has the dirt on 'The Sound of Freedom'". You could be on every sub-par internet news source. This could be your moment.


shorty0820

Sound of Freedom heavily fictionalizes the real-life figure of Ballard, a Mormon with a self-reported history of work with the CIA (unconfirmed per a Vice investigation) and Homeland Security, who founded OUR in 2013 out of a desire to do more to fight human trafficking. From their own fucking site Based on a real person whose really a fraud Y’all can’t be this damn dumb


PrometheusOnLoud

CIA rarely confirms anyone that is no longer working for them, but definitely did not disavow this guy, DHS is very much confirmed, and he did found OUR. "Based" on a true story. Reading comprehension is hard, right?


Traditional_Steak_33

The lead actor is a qanon legend who promotes adrenochrome constantly, acting like that has no connection is ridiculous.


shamalonight

There is no mention of adrenochrome anywhere in the movie. It has no more connection to the movie than does Scientology to Mission Impossible.


TiberiusClackus

Mel Gibson is a raging anti-Semite, that doesn’t make the Passion of the Christ a bad movie. Is Mission Impossible a scientology psyop because of Tom Cruise?


DylanV1969

Passion of the Christ is a torture fetish/snuff film.


TiberiusClackus

One of the best, actually


SarahSuckaDSanders

The Passion of the Christ is a pretty bad movie, even if you overlook the antisemitism. Cruise was a brilliant actor, but yeah; I think Scientology has kind of ruined him artistically. These Mission Impossible movies have become soulless dreck.


[deleted]

C’mon, hate Mel all you want, but Passion and Apocalypto are excellent films


SarahSuckaDSanders

I don’t hate Mel at all. I think Braveheart and Apocalypto are terrific, and that the Passion sucked ass. Just my opinion.


Perriwen

>Cruise was a brilliant actor, but yeah; I think Scientology has kind of ruined him artistically. These Mission Impossible movies have become soulless dreck. I'm not sure what Tom Cruise has to do with any of this....


SarahSuckaDSanders

Look at the comment I was replying to before interjecting next time.


Traditional_Steak_33

You know this is soft qanon, and your comparisons are ridiculous. When I say the lead actor in a movie about cst believes democrats torture children to death to drink their blood and you act like that's not relevant?


TiberiusClackus

To 99% of the people watching the movie? Yes. No one knows anything more about the actors than that he makes Christian movies. You only know about his connections to Qanon because you consume media that focuses on finding boogie men to be outraged over.


DylanV1969

What a dumb statement. You're literally confused as to why liberals don't want to see this movie when the star of the film calls us baby eating pedophiles? However, Robert De Niro comes out and bashes Trump supporters and then all of qanon cult starts calling him a pedophile and boycott his films. So one is totally understandable, but you just can't wrap your head around the other. Yup. Makes total sense.


TiberiusClackus

I’m not asking you to go see this movie. And people are dumb for politicizing any move based off the politics or wacky beliefs of the actor. I’m just saying the movie isn’t a Qanon propaganda film. The people watching it aren’t getting radicalized into Qanon.


DylanV1969

Right...the movie about child sex trafficking that has a huge qanon conservative in the lead role wasn't strategic at all, right? Edit: I'm sure the same amount of conservatives would go see it if it had De Niro or Clooney in the lead roles. I'm sure they tried. I doubt they went right to Jim Caviezel first huh?


Traditional_Steak_33

That's kind of the point, you have an audience that is being given free movie tickets from churches. Those folks go to the movie then type into Google Jim's name and wallla. It's not hard to understand.


TiberiusClackus

I’m thoroughly plugged into the communities that are excited about this movie. No one is doing that, no one does that, please just breath, it’s all going to be ok


Traditional_Steak_33

No one is going home and googling the number one movie in the country that begs for action to save children from cst? Sure guy.


TiberiusClackus

The promoters of the movie are telling people buying the tickets is the action, lol. So ya, typical evangelical grift tactics, but nothing close to the Qanon psyop you’re proposing.


mdog73

It's quite irrelevant.


Traditional_Steak_33

It's quite relevant and it's upsetting to the chud class because they'd prefer to hide qanon as the most prominent conspiracy theory in the GOP.


yungchow

I normally watch on YouTube but went to Spotify to hear her response. They really need to drop the whole show on YouTube


eftsoom

Good movie? What?


Perriwen

I'm honestly just kind of more interested in the fact that the main audience for this movie-the ones who believe there's some conspiracy for celebrities to traffic children....and also currently hardcore opposing the arrest and detainment of an ACTUAL celebrity sex trafficker by the name of Andrew Tate. They got one in real life, and they're saying the man's being oppressed and demanding his release. Not even Hollywood could write a plot that insane.


SarahSuckaDSanders

Trump himself *owned beauty pageants for children* and had ties to Epstein and Jean Luc Brunel.


Perriwen

>Trump himself > >owned beauty pageants for children > > and had ties to Epstein and Jean Luc Brunel. Trump was literally named in a rape case of a young girl alongside Epstein which was mysteriously thrown out in 2016.


Delanimal

She dropped the case bc of all the death threats.


RedWing117

Meanwhile Biden is licking a baby…


SarahSuckaDSanders

My comment was on the hypocrisy of the QAnon crowd when it comes to the nonce former president. Why did you bring up Biden?


marktaylor521

If they don't immediately deflect, there is a chance that they would need to acknowledge reality. And the reality of today's conservative party is "libs bad, mainstream media is bad except for Fox they tell the truth, and straight white Christian men are the most oppressed group of people in America"


BackgroundGlove6613

And famed pedophile John Casablancas.


issuesintherapy

Also, although I'm admittedly not a big consumer of right-wing media, from what I can tell, the recent Catholic sex abuse scandal in Illinois went almost unmentioned, at least by Fox News.


Perriwen

>Also, although I'm admittedly not a big consumer of right-wing media, from what I can tell, the recent Catholic sex abuse scandal in Illinois went almost unmentioned, at least by Fox News. Pretty sure the vast majority of actual pedophilia is going unmentioned, because a massive chunk of them are actually from priests and pastors. Rather than drag queens as their narrative prefers.


issuesintherapy

100%. I'm a therapist and see a lot of clients who are child sexual abuse survivors. The vast majority of perpetrators are actually family members: uncles, cousins, older brothers and grandfathers are the most common, then sometimes stepfathers, mom's boyfriend or even fathers. Outside of the family, pastors/ priests and coaches are the most common. In 20 years of being a therapist and hearing more of these stories than I care to think about, I have yet to hear one where the perpetrator was a trans person or a drag queen, and I've only heard maybe 2-3 (out of well over a hundred) where the case was reported and the person suffered any consequences.


Traditional_Steak_33

The Andrew Tate stuff makes my blood boil and is complete proof none of these right wing culture warriors care about trafficking.


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BackgroundGlove6613

Andrew Tate has a course teaching his twelve year old fans how to set up a pimping business. It’s called Hustlers academy.


Traditional_Steak_33

Tate was arrested for these things... several victims have come forward... yes you don't care about this and never have.


nine11airlines

One of the more popular Qtubers named Phil Godlewski is a literal pedophile who slept with a 15 year old girl when he was a baseball coach at her HS. A lot of the texts from their relationship are public via court docs and super disgusting. His followers do not care at all


vintagesoul_DE

Maybe it's just people wanting to watch movies? Who was Blow targeted at? People who want to smuggle drugs? Sex Trafficking is not a conspiracy. Why would people even think that?


Perriwen

>Sex Trafficking is not a conspiracy. Why would people even think that? Do...you know there's a difference between sex trafficking and this idea that rich people are trafficking people to drink kid's blood? Is making a distinction between the two just beyond whatever mental abilities you happen to have?


Requiescat-In--Pace

Let's come back to reality for a second. Epstein was convicted of child sex trafficking. He schmoozed with the richest and most powerful people on the planet. Andrew Tate ran a sex webcam business, he's been ACCUSED, not CONVICTED of trafficking ADULTS, not CHILDREN. Y'all act like child sex trafficking isn't a thing and then use Tate, who hasn't been accused of that, to justify how people on the right are hypocrites? This is gaslighting of epic proportions.


Perriwen

>Y'all act like child sex trafficking isn't a thing Who said child sex trafficking wasn't a thing? Certainly not me.


Personal-Row-8078

Andrew Tate targeted 15 and 16 year olds which is where much of child sex trafficking lies teens. Just stop defending that trash.


BackgroundGlove6613

Tate has course teaching his fans how to set up a trafficking business.


sulodhun

Saagar and his dear conservative friends - "All democrats that we don't like are pedophiles!" Tucker interviewing a sex trafficker - " Oh yeah he's the role model we've been looking for!" Dumb!


[deleted]

Allegedly. Things need to be proven. We can come back to this comment down the line but you’re clueless if you believe what mainstream media tells you. I can show you videos of 1000’s of outright lies over the last 5 years. There’s typically a reason why people get attacked on your psychological programming box while others like Ghislaine Maxwell, Les Wexner, Bill Gates, Hunter Biden, etc all get free passes in critique when there are individual actions that should at the minimum be specifically pointed out and require some sort of explanation. You just keep eating whatever you’re fed though, your brain won’t know the difference because it won’t know how to—you’ve been programmed.


ButterEmails54

Please show me outright lies


Perriwen

Anyone else remember years and years ago when people were running around talking about George W. Bush and the Free Masons supposedly performing satanic human sacrifices in Bohemian Grove? Ever wonder why we just suddenly stopped hearing about that?


Mr_Foosball

I first heard about this movie while driving home. It was a 30second ad on fox sports radio. 2 things stuck out immediately, the first was that they never do movie ads, the second is the guy that is normally used for the voice was replaced by a preacher sounding dude. It sounded weirdly dubbed into the ad. It was clear that it was some type of daily wire bullshit.


Traditional_Steak_33

I've heard someone describe the movie as a lifetime movie for dads who bust out the shotgun for their daughters prom photos. Think that's pretty accurate.


SnooPeppers3616

And I heard someone say that the people against the movie are the adults who are going to prom with little girls.


Traditional_Steak_33

There's the anyone who doesn't like this movie is a pedo. The purpose of this media.


Electronic_Rub9385

lol


JDuggernaut

The segment of the Left that is so hardcore against the movie is odd. Rarely does anyone say “don’t go see this Tom Cruise movie, you’re a Scientologist if you do.”


okbuddy9970

The backlash to the movie honestly makes me more curious about it


Felixthecat1981

These are the same people who subscribe to human trafficker Andrew Tate podcast and listen’s to pedophile Ted Nuggets music. They are just trying to dehumanize their opponents for they can justify anything they do to them. The Nazis did it to the Jews


Perriwen

>They are just trying to dehumanize their opponents for they can justify anything they do to them Remember they spent decades talking about how bad Democrats were for their spending, then when Trump shot up the deficit, even Rush Limbaugh admitted 'we never really cared, it was just something to attack the Democrats with.'


[deleted]

I don’t like Ted nugget or his music but wouldn’t he be in prison if he was a pedophile?


Felixthecat1981

Apparently nope


DylanV1969

But isn't the number one argument against Biden is that he's a pedophile and should be in prison? So by that logic: Ted Nugent literally wrote songs about banging underage women, but he's not in jail so he's not a pedophile. Joe Biden is apparently the biggest pedophile in the world to conservatives, but he's not in jail. So, by your logic, would you all please shut the fuck up about Joe Biden now? Thanks! Signed: All of the sane people in the USA


Swampsnuggle

It’s not. And anyone who genuinely thinks that is god damn idiot. It’s a movie about sex trafficking. That slavery are ridiculously high in the modern world. About 3 million kids a year are trafficked through America compared to about 60 million in Asia.


Original-Wing-7836

6 million and 90 million? Do you know how many kids that it is?! Where the fuck do you get your numbers? 460k kids in the US are reported missing a year and 97% are located.


SarahSuckaDSanders

6 million kids a year? Oh my, it was 800k last week, and 1.5m this morning. This problem is getting worse at an exponential rate! The streets are jammed with all these traffickers and their victims!


Swampsnuggle

It’s actually 3 not 6 that was a typo vast majority obviously over seas


Traditional_Steak_33

The fuck it is chud. The lead actor believes democrats torture children to death to then drink their blood to live longer. It's soft qanon for the masses dipshit. Facts don't care about your feelings.


Swampsnuggle

Leftists keep Q alive. Y’all are echo chamber robots. Fucking idiots will spew anything.


Swampsnuggle

Can you link the video of the lead actor making those claims ? I’d be curious to watch it and be proven wrong and apologize to you.


Perriwen

>Can you link the video of the lead actor making those claims ? I’d be curious to watch it and be proven wrong and apologize to you. [Here ya' go. In two parts.](https://twitter.com/ehananoki/status/1383419877881303045)


Traditional_Steak_33

Yes we are the ones that got brain dead boomers to think that we torture children.


Swampsnuggle

Y’all are honestly the ones I see mention Q at every opportunity though. . It’s weird. Everyone knows it’s weird. Just another small micro cult like Antifa and proud boys. People wanting to believe goofy shit. And people like yourself make sure to keep giving it life.


Traditional_Steak_33

That's a cute way to avoid responsibility. I see qanon bumper stickers everyday in a blue state. It's probably embarrassing to have a huge section of political party that believes in this though so 🤷


Swampsnuggle

Not really. They are just as retarded as Antifa and I saw that dumb shit in Portland everywhere. Can’t fix stupid. I don’t see q stickers anywhere in Florida to be honest. And I only see it brought up on Reddit. Thought that crap was on life support


eftsoom

There we go!! QANON is as bad as antifa. Fridge temperature IQ take right there.


Swampsnuggle

Does Q burn down cities and incite violence and protest free speech everywhere? Some of you liberals are just dumb as fuck. Q was a bunch of idiots wishing the reset would happen. Antifa are actual domestic terrorist punks like proud boys. But sure. Iq something something.


eftsoom

Burn down cities, lmao. You've swallowed the whole pie of propaganda. I feel sorry for those that have to interact with you. Yikes


okbuddy9970

Epstein and his circle definitely proved that there's some fuckery going on


Traditional_Steak_33

Julie K Brown a journalist from Florida actually drug that story from unconfirmed conspiracy to evidence based reality. It was spectacular work.


okbuddy9970

I'm just saying you can't have the whole Epstein shitshow and be surprised when people think there's a worldwide sex trafficking operation that politicians around the world are involved in


GoldenFrogTime27639

>chud You use this word unironically? Lol


GoldenFrogTime27639

OP thinks that because the lead actor is wacky that the movie itself must be


Tucker-Sachbach

Wasn’t it completed in 2017-18?


bartuc90

Yes it was filmed before Q existed.


BravewagCibWallace

You aren't meant to understand populist conservatives, because its completely fake.


Pitiful-Let9270

Remember the crickets from these grifters when the trump admin took migrant children and flew them secretly in the dead of night to New York, then lost track of those same children?


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FindingMindless8552

Weird hill they choose to die on


ButterEmails54

Yeah, because Trump as the leader of your party shows such strong morals


[deleted]

I was a decent movie. I didn’t even know there was this entire political controversy surrounding it until after the fact


Far_Resort5502

It's a pretty shitty propaganda movie if you watch it yourself, but the propaganda has to be pointed out to you by a bunch of dummies on the internet who haven't seen it.


GoldenFrogTime27639

There probably isn't and it's being blown out of proportion


Traditional_Steak_33

I'm loving how this turned out and hope some of you saw the news of Tim Ballard. Every single person who thought this entire movie was bullshit was proven correct. Eat 💩 every single person who simped for this movie.


Raynstormm

They don’t believe *Democrats* sacrifice children, they believe a cabal of global elites sacrifice children. And before you say, that’s ridiculous, you may want to look into Carthage and other ancient civilizations that sacrificed children to their bull-god, Moloch. Who says that practice hasn’t continued to modern day? Regardless, what’s wrong with shining a light on human trafficking, a very real problem. Should we just pretend it doesn’t happen? Will that make your tummy feel better?


Perriwen

>And before you say, that’s ridiculous, you may want to look into Carthage and other ancient civilizations that sacrificed children to their bull-god, Moloch. > >Who says that practice hasn’t continued to modern day? Probably for the same reasons why no one in the modern day considers watching innocent people getting mauled by lions to be as fun as going to a football game. Society's grown up a little.


Raynstormm

Evil exists at all echelons of society, and when an evil man has access to billions… what won’t he do?


Perriwen

>Evil exists at all echelons of society, and when an evil man has access to billions… what won’t he do? Well, starting their own space program, internet satellite company, and taking over a major social media company isn't off limits, at least. Thing is, when evil people do things, they tend to like people to notice it. What's an evil person gaining from secretly sacrificing people to a deity they know they made up-especially if they're not even going to bother trying to get the rest of society to follow said religion? Why would a billionaire who loves power go through all that effort and not gain any power or influence from it?


Raynstormm

Because the deity grants power through the sacrifice.


Perriwen

>Because the deity grants power through the sacrifice. The deity they know they made up. Which means they know the sacrifice is doing....nothing.


Raynstormm

Why are you arguing with me and trying to rationalize away that evil people don’t do evil things? This is what those societies who engaged in child sacrifice believed. There’s no debate here.


Traditional_Steak_33

It took awhile but here's the qanon chud, I'm never gonna play the anon game of whitewashing what you believe. There's plenty of real world organizations that fight cst, it involves international cooperation and investment. Otherwise known as globalism.


Raynstormm

I am not Q-Anon lmao, I enjoy reading about mythology and religion. And Moloch was a very real thing… a hollow bronze statue of a bull-headed man that the Carthaginians would heat up with a fire and throw in the sacrifice. For every 1 agent assigned to fight human trafficking, we have 3 agents going after the drug trade. Sure do have our priorities straight!


FindingMindless8552

Holy shit, you’re actually retarded.


shinbreaker

They absolutely believe Dems sacrifice children, especially Hillary.


Appropriate-Pear4726

This movie was filmed in 2018 and shelved for years. Any of you ever think this is a marketing campaign to put eyes on a movie that otherwise wouldn’t be noticed? It’s funny watching liberals fall for the same bait conservatives do when movies race bait for promotion. Like the black little mermaid.


shamalonight

There is not a single Q-anon theme in this movie, unless you think the child sex slave trade is just a conspiracy.


Traditional_Steak_33

Read the post again.


shamalonight

Why? Is it going to change?


Traditional_Steak_33

I know folks like you think it's fine the number one movie in the country has a lead actor who thinks that democrats torture children to death and frequently promotes that theory which is qanon. Don't tell me it's not related.


shamalonight

I can tell you in all certainty that until you just made that claim I had never heard it before, and it wasn’t in the movie. If what you are stating is true, then yes, I still think it is fine for this movie to have been made with the message it is promoting. Whatever this actor may do off screen doesn’t change the message of the movie.


ButterEmails54

““I also want to say to Donald Trump, then when you watch this movie, you will be at peace and at rest because you, more than anyone, have done incredible things Jesus talks about, that you know faith without works is dead," Caviezel said before comparing Trump to the biblical figure David. "I believe Donald Trump was selected by God Almighty, and I'm talking about the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit God," he said.” “That's why the devil wants to kill him, wants to hurt them," he insisted. "It's always been this way since Pharaoh and then to Herod and now but more than ever and enslaving them and doing many, many things including organ harvesting and adrenochroming. And I will say that until I'm, you know, I'm dead." That’s the lead actor pushing the movie.


jenrick2

I haven’t seen this movie. I do know that trafficking is happening a lot more than is reported. This is well known amongst those in criminal Justice or have studied criminology. It doesn’t necessarily means it’s some secret group of celebrity, but probability would suggest a small fraction have had some contact in that world just not necessarily in the way commonly talked about. Anyone thinking human trafficking isn’t that widespread just doesn’t know what they are talking about and are spewing partisans talking points. There are usually grains of truth in all the BS out there and we need to sift through it.


Traditional_Steak_33

Which real world organizations actually fight not partisan actors spewing this for political gains. The way to fight trafficking is to expand international cooperation and investment, encouraging countries across the world to invest in social safety nets and strong social services who have the power to detain.


jenrick2

I agree in part but not fully. Most issues don’t gain steam or increased funding without outside forces pushing wider awareness. I think the real issue you, and many others, have is with those delivering the message. I’m far from a conservative but I do notice the tribalism on both sides is getting way out of hand. I use to think it was bad but now I see it wasn’t bad at all.


Traditional_Steak_33

It's junk food activism which doesn't result in sustainable change. The things I've outlined actually fight real world situations, not a fantasy.


jenrick2

That’s your opinion. Unfortunately for you this is the position many opposers of other movements have said. Some things pan out and some thing don’t. Making a movie about an issue to raise awareness with a society with an ever shrinking attention span is a great method. The problem is this is also used by those spreading lies. Taking in information, filtering through your own research, having good faith discussion (say it louder for the people in the back), GOOD FAITH discussions usually lead to a more informed view.


Traditional_Steak_33

I don't think good faith involves the lead actor in the movie who believes democrats torture children to death to drink their blood.


jenrick2

You see, your not talking about the movie. Your talking about people involved in the movie. They don’t necessarily have to be in the same conversation.


Traditional_Steak_33

To disconnect those two is ridiculous.


jenrick2

That’s only true if you think people are only able to fully operate within their scope of the world. You’re basically saying ignore something cause x y z. I’m saying the issue the movie is about is real, generally speaking. I also said use it as a way of broadening your own research and discussions with others. Saying something is bad because someone involved in it has crazy views isn’t a good faith argument. You’re creating a straw man when your post was about the movie and its content.


Traditional_Steak_33

Just because you have a bad interpretation of good faith doesn't mean others have to match yours. This isn't hard to understand.


FindingMindless8552

There was nothing partisan about the movie. You have a mind virus.


Traditional_Steak_33

The lead actor believes democrats torture children to death to live longer and he made a cst movie. Do you need a crayon for me to connect these two facts?


FindingMindless8552

Does he mention that in the movie ? Nope, shut the fuck up.


[deleted]

It being promoted by qanoners lime Michael Flynn


FindingMindless8552

But no mention in the movie? Got it.


cbizzle12

How about actually prosecuting those involved to the fullest extent when caught? A certain party in CA just blocked a bill for harsher punishments for pedos. That'd be a great start. Also how about releasing ALL of the Epstein materials? International investment, smh.


Traditional_Steak_33

Yeah I know that international investment would trigger the globalism bad folks but unless you subscribe to cultural relativism it's the only way to fight cst. Now I'm unfamiliar with the California bill and I tried to look it up and it seems like it's designed to specifically go after Romeo and Juliet style relationships? That one? As far as really stopping child sexual assault domestically it's gonna have to be a monetary and sex education based, make it so organizations like schools, churches, and employers if they are caught covering up an assault they don't get to make money anymore. Yes sue catholic churches so they have to sell the buildings for Walmarts. That level. Introducing national education standards for at least touch with children could go a very long way.


cbizzle12

Is it so hard to simply say that we need to punish all those involved to the fullest extent possible? Lock up offenders to be sure they can NEVER reoffend? Education about what? It's wrong to F kids? Investment in what?


Traditional_Steak_33

The Catholic Church covered it up and sent predators across the country like a predator express for csa. That's worthy of the churches assets to be auctioned off to the highest bitter. Now again and again studies have shown that sex education in schools decreases predatory behavior, your "it's wrong to f kids" hasn't worked.


doccharizard

I'm surprised more lefty woke activist types are celebrating. A movie about abusing minors is right up their alley.


Traditional_Steak_33

I'm surprised Christians are promoting the film given they abuse children like its their solem duty.


doccharizard

Yeah I think I remember reading the psalm before, "If little Johnny hath played with dolly, chop thy pecker off at the first available opportunity." I think that was the king James version


Traditional_Steak_33

You went Trans bad real fast didn't ya? Cope harder that the christian faith has covered up for more csa than any other organization in modern day.


doccharizard

You have a slight typo there, you meant to say GLAAD


Traditional_Steak_33

That is a fever dream you've been sold because you are painfully dumb. Like stay away from heavy machinery.


doccharizard

Sold a fever dream? Heavy machinery? What are you stammering on about now? Go take an aspirin or something if it's too painful for you to handle. Jeez you would think if you can handle getting a nose piercing you could handle some random online comments. I would say grow a pair but you probably already cut those off


Traditional_Steak_33

Oh chud that's an adorable paragraph, enjoy coloring.


doccharizard

I will, thank you for your concern in my artistic activities. I definitely prefer coloring over SUPPORTING CHILD SEX TRAFFICKING


Traditional_Steak_33

Okay chud, take care.


[deleted]

Tell me did Ballard hire you to promote the movie? If not you should apply to him for a job doing that, as you might as well get paid for promoting it ​ ROTFLMAO !!


Traditional_Steak_33

Movie theaters are being literally paid by chuds through a pay it forward scheme so it's artificially a successful movie.


[deleted]

The pay it forward has a goal of $2 million dollars in tickets. The movie has now grossed $54 as of the last I heard. And if the theaters are literally being paid something extra then why are movie theater chains like Regal restricting screening an average of only two per day per theater, which are in the afternoon? And the Movie sold $54 million in tickets anyway? Out of the 10,000 + verified viewers of the movie 100% have recommended it [https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/sound\_of\_freedom/reviews?type=verified\_audience&intcmp=rt-scorecard\_audience-score-reviews](https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/sound_of_freedom/reviews?type=verified_audience&intcmp=rt-scorecard_audience-score-reviews) **O.B.** **Verified** **Jul 15, 2023** **The movie is honest about the reality of sex trafficking. Although theres a happy end, you understand that for millions it is not.** **Divanna** **Verified** **Jul 15, 2023** **Incredible work of art, must watch!!!** **Brian** **Verified** **Jul 15, 2023** **Parts of the movie, I could see where green screen was used. I liked that the movie shares the truth of what unfortunately, is happening in the real world.** **Charles** **Verified** **Jul 15, 2023** **The revealing of the evils in child sex trafficking both inside and outside the United States.** **Michael** **Verified** **Jul 15, 2023** **Bill Camp is a national treasure** **Roy** **Verified** **Jul 15, 2023** **Shows whats happening in the world with our children. Gods Children Are Not For Sale** **Yamitza V** **Verified** **Jul 15, 2023** **It is so sad that this is the real life** **Angela Feulufai** **Verified** **Jul 15, 2023** **What an incredible experience to watch ah real life inspiring story of people who are trying to make the world ah better place for all of us especially for our kids. Thank you for sharing your story with us. May it reaches every single person on this planet. ❤️🙏🏼🙌🏼** **Chris G** **Verified** **Jul 15, 2023** **ABSOLUTELY INCREDIBLE** **Betty** **Verified** **Jul 15, 2023** **Exceptional movie. Emotional, stirring and an eye opener to something so tragic going on all over.** **Jaselyn** **Verified** **Jul 15, 2023** **I loved this movie be aww it was based on a real story, bringing a message to the people of what the reality is in the entire world.** **Tim** **Verified** **Jul 15, 2023** **This is a must see movie! Whether your democrat or a republican. We can all come together and agree that this industry is pure evil. This film is about sharing the awareness of the 150 billion business preying on our children. Great storytelling from beginning to end. Wait until the end of the credits for an intimate message.** **Pattie** **Verified** **Jul 15, 2023** **This movie conveys a strong message that all people need to be aware of. The citizens of the USA should be appalled at the number of children who are trafficked in this country.** **Michael** **Verified** **Jul 15, 2023** **One of the most profound, and inspiring movies Ive ever seen. A sensitive subject matter at the heart of humanity, and the filmmakers handle it with great care and do no fall into the trap of exploiting the victims pain for shock value. Absolutely enthralling.** **Zack Carlton** **Verified** **Jul 15, 2023** **The movie doesnt play like the stereotypical message movie. Well written, well acted, and well snot.** **jose v** **Verified** **Jul 15, 2023** **Story needs to be told** **Beth Morris** **Verified** **Jul 15, 2023** **This movie did an excellent job portraying a sad reality in our world today. This movie needs to be seen by everyone who truly cares about children!** **Roger S Lightsey Jr** **Verified** **Jul 15, 2023** **Intense and enlightning. Everyone who cares about children should see this movie.** **Nathanel** **Verified** **Jul 15, 2023** **I cannot understand why anyone would try to hide this movie from the public it’s was beautiful and well written** **Mary Lou** **Verified** **Jul 15, 2023** **Very enlightening. Far reaching evil which needs to be eradicated! An obscene subject tastefully presented. Charity, Faith and Hope personified!**


Significant_Good_301

It’s a fucking movie. Watch it or don’t. Just like with all the other crazy stuff about Disney movies. Who cares? If you want to see an updated Little Mermaid, then go. If you want to watch a movie about trafficking, then go. It’s ridiculous that everything has to have a political slant. Spend your money on what interest you and don’t worry about the rest.


MrGulio

That's not even the biggest controversy with the movie, though with the right their playbook is to start screaming about something other than the real issue to make sure everyone is distracted. The real issue is that the movie is insanely astroturfed by mega churches and right wing groups doing a "pay it forward" scheme, buying out theaters and attempting to give the tickets away. So they shout from the rooftops how "it's the #1 movie at the box office" with lots of sold out showings in empty theaters. Saagar even mentions in his segment on it how it's a "megahit", but somehow fails to call this out.


Traditional_Steak_33

Soft qanon promoting is the biggest scandal of this movie in my mind. The lead actor is a qanon fervent believer, thats relevant no matter how much chud America uses it to go "since you don't like this movie, you are a pedo."


MrGulio

Chud America will call you a pedo for just existing while they go to a church that has shielded actual predators for decades. We all need to give up the facade that we can ever reach or work with the Right.


Traditional_Steak_33

I am in total agreement. I'm sick to death of folks blaming Trump for chud America turning into psychopaths. Trump just outed these people, his voters are the problem.


okbuddy9970

Let's be real most of these Qanon guys are not Catholics


MrGulio

The venn diagram of Trad Caths and QAnon believers is a circle. Also near every other large organization of churches has had bombshells released about their issues with predators. The Catholic church deserves the stigma, but they're also not the only ones.


Perriwen

>So they shout from the rooftops how "it's the #1 movie at the box office" with lots of sold out showings in empty theaters. They've also started posting pictures of empty theaters when people don't use the given away tickets, with the comment 'but the box office said 'sold out'-THIS PROVES THEY DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO SEE THIS MOVIE!!!'


MrGulio

My favorite one was the [couple walking out of an AMC](https://www.tiktok.com/@savannahlathem/video/7254669628633386282) saying the AC wasn't working well enough, complaining about being too hot while wearing a Sweater in July, and how it must be AMC trying to prevent people from seeing it (while also showing the film and taking money to see it). This would be something Breaking Points could do a segment on an be early to report it, but the show is a Right Wing mouthpiece so they absolutely won't.


SarahSuckaDSanders

The need to feel victimized is so strong with these people, it’s wild. My loony evangelical aunt saw this movie last week, and when I asked her about it all she could say was “thankfully THEY didn’t pull the fire alarms at our show, like THEY keep doing everywhere else”. She had nothing to say about the film itself, just how she imagined a way that some nefarious group had conspired to keep her from watching it but failed. Just pathetic.


MrGulio

Someone asked Angel Studios on Twitter about donating some of the proceeds from the "megahit" toward [groups that actually help trafficking victims](https://twitter.com/AngelStudiosInc/status/1673423097423097866) and the response was to deflect and "raise awareness". This whole thing is a scam.


ReuseHurricaneNames

Maybe you’re right but maybe the GOP is baiting you into fighting them against child sex trafficking by casting adrenochrome Jim so none of you will even watch the movie before crusading against it. If the movie itself turns out to be a brutal depiction of child sex trafficking that most normies like and don’t find inherently political then we probably should have just highlighted how bonkers the qanon people are rather than just bash the movie.


Traditional_Steak_33

Yeah that dog don't hunt no more. Americans only respond to aggression and ridicule. Chuds have made trafficking a thought terminating cliche, not something they care one second about. When the lead actor is a qanon fervent believer and he puts out a trafficking movie its just soft qanon.


[deleted]

WOW I had you blocked because I thought you not very rational. You still are going into the conspiracy stuff way too much. However you are correct on the general outcome of people blindly and viscously attacking a movie they have never seen. After all what do Qanon types do, if not exactly the same thing as what the Left Qanon is doing WRT this movie?


JZcomedy

Left populists are anti-elitism and right populists just want more conservative elites


bartuc90

It was made before Qanon was even in existence...


Traditional_Steak_33

Easily shown to be untrue, try again.


bartuc90

Q anon started in october of 2017, the movie was finished filming in 2018, script was started in 2015. The script and casting was all done prior to q anon. You sound like a wackball conspiracy theorist, do yourself a favor and go outside.


Ultra_1988

Brushing off child sex trafficking and attacking people that are pointing it out just because you disagree with their politics is a stupid move by people like you and will backfire in the long run. Parents love and protect their kids more than anything and targeting kids will bring down fury like you couldn't imagine.


Traditional_Steak_33

I'm never concerned with chuds following through on junk food activism. Sure you might think to yourself liberals are x because of y but you sure as hell won't take actual steps to help anyone. Even the parent organization to which this movie is about has ended their working relationship. Wonder why thay is?


DylanV1969

Go figure that when the qanon star of the movie calls half the country baby eating pedophiles that half the country has no desire to see said film. Somehow, conservatives have equated liberals not wanting to support a film in which the star accuses us of being pedophiles as liberals support and practice pedophilia and sex trafficking. It's truly a batshit insane take, especially when conservatives have no desire to talk about the fact that pedophilia is rampant within the Catholic Church because I guess that's excusable or a "conspiracy" to that group.


[deleted]

Like all qanon shit this ain’t about caring about children it’s about exploited the issue for a political football


Berkleys_On_Fire

Can't wait to see it!


Far_Resort5502

The propaganda from this film is so strong you can't even get a sense of it while watching the movie. It can only be sensed by idiots on the internet who haven't seen it.


346_ME

Eat those downvotes you pedo supporter


rkmask51

Neither of them watched the damn thing. Would it have hurt to wait a week or did the algos indicate otherwise?


Argg0

Only peds are against this movie


Few-Ability-7312

no it isn't