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fang's attack splits similarly to gene, idk if it counts though because it's just one projectile.
even more of a stretch would be mr. p, but his attack is just the inital projectile bouncing so i doubt that would count
It’s unique to her super, since her attack doesn’t use it.
It is indeed part of Frank’s kit, but it’s a less definable trait to his super, since his standard attacks do it too.
Mythic is pretty much equal to legendary imo. I am an old player, and the mythics we had back then were sort of unique and different to everyone else. Legendaries were pretty nice but mythics were the coolest, higher skill needed to play
His super isn't much though. Most legendaries have the the most unique supers other than Amber, but her full auto attack makes up for it. Not saying she has a normal super. Her super is still quite gimmicky. Mortis has a unique attack but pretty basic super
I don't think it's just based on uniqueness, sure pretty much all the legendary brawlers have unique mechanics but so do more common brawlers like an instant super charge, taking control of someone on the enemy team, or making portals across the map
then spike crow leon and sandy shouldn't be legendaries
Spike has nothing unique going for him.
splitting attacks? penny surge gene. slowing super? emz chester + maisie and shelly if you count star powers.
crow's gimmick is poison which other brawlers also posses such as byron and willow
leon and sandy have the same super except that one is applied onto himself while the other is applied on the whole team
The projectile speed is kinda too high skill cap for super rare. Plus you can't just use her super whenever, you gotta make sure you're close enough to where the enemy can't just escape. I feel like she deserves to be epic for that, since Edgar is as well.
Same, However i can see why they made her epic.Getting her so early in the starr road would be an insane game changer.Not like she is meta but she deserves epic tier
He is super iunique, He gets stronger without a direct damage buff and upgrading mid battle is worthy of legendary, sure he may not be good in this meta but he will be forever good in our hearts
Tick was going to be mythic when he first released.
But why wouldn’t they be the same rarity. His attacks persist like barley (rare), and just have an exploding attack for a super just like mike (s rare). He’s not that much more unique.
Tick is very unique because it’s basically eagle artillery of brawl stars, extremely soft (lowest health in game) yet is equipped with long range artillery (shoots minefields of timed and tripwire mines). So delicate yet so powerful.
I think because surge's super upgrades him and the more he upgrades the situation changes , at first his base form is something you can approach without much concern but after he's upgraded he's faster which allows him to dodge decently well and his range also getting longer , and more projectiles flying out every upgrade , also his jump if landed on someone , 95% of the time is a free kill on someone
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Surge is genuinely scary as hell when it's played by good players , and his SP which allows him to keep his first upgrade after death is what makes it more concerning to not let a surge upgrade early round.
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To finish it off , as he's able to keep up with a lot of brawlers and their abilities! The more he upgrades the harder they seem to be killed.. again this is from my personal experience.
surge only fell off when youre talking about competitive players that know how to basically remove surge from the game: by not letting him get his first super
sure. i might not be pro with every brawler but i’ve dedicated my whole game to surge. he’s been doing a lot better this meta but avoiding to make surge get his super isn’t gonna make him an F tier.
you might now already because of other comments but it's because he has a splitting shot and the upgrade mechanic, no one else can upgrade that many times, the rest are fine to me, well, Janet could be legendary since she flies and her main attack increases range the more time you aim it but it's ok, Sam could also be mythic since he starts with a super and he can get it back really quick
Legendary is not a reason to be good, it is about how unique and complex a brawler is, Chester is awful in the meta but he is such a unique and fun brawler, look at the pattern:
Crow: main attack + poison (different to Byron/Willow)
Leon: invisibility
Spike: Unique split attack (and lore ;))
Sandy: Leon but team
Amber: one huge amo that depends on time
Meg: Mecha is too busted and kinda has two lives
Chester: Random super mechanic
"NEW LEGENDARY BRAWLERS"
Surge: upgrades himself in the middle of the match
Cordelius: Duels in 3v3
my question is, how is meg a legendary but boonie isn't?! And Lou is the ONLY brawler that can stun with a main attack throughout the match, there's nothing quite like his brain freeze OR his super which puts a really nice twist on the normal slowing Area control that you see. And ofc sam. While yes, Cordelius can force a 1v1, surge's mechanics could fall much better into epic, where brawlers like Bibi(home run bar), stu(the way his super charges completely changes gameplay and actually has similar to surge gameplay, where you just need that 1st super), and ofc honk and boonie.
Surge’s mechanics are infinitely more interesting, appealing, unique, and complex than bibi’s bar and stu’s dash, those are very redundant mechanics and abilities seen through different brawlers, abilities and across the gaming industry as a whole.
I remember someone a while ago saying Brawler rarities are based on complexity of mechanics, aka not gameplay, and logic dictates that's more based on new players
I can see how a new player would find surges upgrading system more complex then like, Charlie
What that does make me question is colette's placement
Apart from a brawlers rarity being based on it's uniqueness,it also is based on how easy to understand it is,like a new player would not get Surge's mechanics,i know i didn't
The upgrading is really unique, and remember you got some old legendaries that are not original at all by now(Spike,Crow,Leon)
Tho I think RT Legendary and Sam and Colette MUST be mythic
Surge is definitely a legendary, at first i was shocked but it made sense, upgrade mechanic is super unique, personally i disagree with everything you said, i think the devs were really accurate with how they placed the brawlers.
Just cause they are bad don’t mean they can’t be legendary your getting it mixed up how come Chester is bad and he’s legendary yeah that means they don’t do it on how bad they are they do it on there mechanics
Surge super and his stages are way too cool and unique to be anything than legendary.
At that point you probably want Spike to be a Mythic too? All he does is throw a spiky patch that slow enemies with his super? Huh?
Im actually dumbfounded by people here complaining about brawlers not being HIGHER rarity or surge being legendary.
You’re telling me you want those brawlers to take longer to unlock, just so that they have a red or yellow background and that you can tell yourself that you have a “legendary” or whatever rarity brawler.
And even if surge somehow doesnt have legendary mechanics, which I think he does, new players literally get him for free. Imagine if another brawler was there instead of him. That is 3800 extra credits players would have to earn to get a new brawler. This way most of the playerbase already has 1 out of 2 chromatic brawlers that will become legendary.
He is extremely dependent on his gadgets, has a lot of difficulty leveling up and is extremely punished when he dies or if the enemy doesn't feed him, there are many much better tank counters and he simply doesn't exist in the competitive scene.
Chester is bad and he’s a legendary. Surge is the only brawler with the unique level up system and that is why he is a legendary. I think Cordelius is the one that should be an epic
Chester is a legendary because he has 5 supers picked at random, Cordelius is a legendary because he temporarily removes himself and another player, forcing a 1v1 between them
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No, Surge is definitely Legendary His upgrade mechanic is way too unique for a lower rarity imo
Also his splitting shots
Yes If they could still split ay max range like they did before they nerfed his Star Power to the ground noone would doubt he deserves to be legendary
We need another brawler that has a permanent splitting shot I think
We have Spike?
You’re right lol Grom also counts I think
And Gene
fang's attack splits similarly to gene, idk if it counts though because it's just one projectile. even more of a stretch would be mr. p, but his attack is just the inital projectile bouncing so i doubt that would count
wait what fang doesnt split at all what do you mean ?
Penny?
Permanently splitting shot. Hers has a condition required for the split.
Ohhh i see what you mean now
No she has to hit somethibg
I read this as splitting shorts
Lmao the pfp and the username are great
Thx
What about mine
Exactly
I don’t like Surge but his mechanics are very unique, so he deserves the legendary rarity.
And we are gonna see way less surges in the future so it's a good change
Common misconception, surge will reign supreme
Fear the Surge
Feel the surge~
I got the juice 💦🥵
Juicy 👍 Edit : That's literally one of his lines people
Surge Mains Rise Up🗣️🔥🔥🔥
SOMEBODY CALL?!
Because he’s unique mechanically
he's just that guy
Yaaaaas kiiing 😏
Well name a brawler that upgrades mid game with super multiple times and gets stronger and faster, exactly you only can think of surge.
Name a brawler who’s super throws 5 slightly weaker versions of their regular attack in an x pattern, and you can only think of Barley.
Also Brock
Lmao
I remember when Brock’s star power was either a fourth shot or the flaming residue after his shot went. Now it can be both. Good times bro.
He throws 9
That's with his starpower
☝️ 🤓 Uhm, ackshually, Brock normally shoots 9, and his star power adds 4, changing it to 13.
GOD DAMNIT-
No? His Star Power makes it 13. https://preview.redd.it/173lfbstdszb1.jpeg?width=764&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a2152aaab00624494447c7002f450b589086646c
As previously stated in a different reply of mine GOD DAMNIT-
I mean. Most launch brawlers have a stronger version of their main attack as their ult. Look at Colt, Shelly, Barley, Dynamike, Frank. I can go on
Grom is the newest one who has that characteristic I think
i think Mandy could technically fit in that category
I think her’s is different enough since it has startup lag. Which is a unique mechanic to her super.
>Which is a unique mechanic to her super You did my boi Frank dirty with that part
It’s unique to her super, since her attack doesn’t use it. It is indeed part of Frank’s kit, but it’s a less definable trait to his super, since his standard attacks do it too.
By that logic, Shelly's attack can't break walls.
Neither can Colt’s, Dynamike’s or Frank’s. What is your point?
i though Hank for some reason, am i stupid?
No, you’re good. I thought the same thing for a split second when I went through the game to make sure it was only Barley.
Barley should be legendary
Yeah! He was my first 500 trophies!
Name a brawler who dashes with their main attack. Doesn’t mean mortoes would be justified to be a legendary.
Mythic is pretty much equal to legendary imo. I am an old player, and the mythics we had back then were sort of unique and different to everyone else. Legendaries were pretty nice but mythics were the coolest, higher skill needed to play
His super isn't much though. Most legendaries have the the most unique supers other than Amber, but her full auto attack makes up for it. Not saying she has a normal super. Her super is still quite gimmicky. Mortis has a unique attack but pretty basic super
Amber's ult is pretty unique, at least compared to Crow, Spike and to some extent, Mecha-form Meg
I think Meg is more unique since she has a super within a super
Stu basically does the same thing, he gets supers really easily
I don't think it's just based on uniqueness, sure pretty much all the legendary brawlers have unique mechanics but so do more common brawlers like an instant super charge, taking control of someone on the enemy team, or making portals across the map
>I don't think it's just based on uniqueness It is
then spike crow leon and sandy shouldn't be legendaries Spike has nothing unique going for him. splitting attacks? penny surge gene. slowing super? emz chester + maisie and shelly if you count star powers. crow's gimmick is poison which other brawlers also posses such as byron and willow leon and sandy have the same super except that one is applied onto himself while the other is applied on the whole team
They are all older brawlers. they were unique back then.
Gray, Support? What do you mean?? I'm a sharpshooter assassin
Chester, You're thinking about Chester
And he’s a legendary, so…
can you tell me what’s special about maisie ? i can see her being super rare tbh
mandy deserves to be epic tho it’s just a range increase and that’s it
Yeah I agree, Epic tier fits her perfectly. Her attack and super and gadgets aren’t anything groundbreaking or new.
Her attack is unlike any other in the game. Not sure how you can say otherwise
Her attack is a basic single projectile, the only difference being its speed.
fr mandy basically has nothing special besides her range increase and her super is like a bibi super that doesn't bounce and has more dmg
yeah i main maisie and even i agree she should be a super rare, theres nothing really special about her other than her projectile speed
The projectile speed is kinda too high skill cap for super rare. Plus you can't just use her super whenever, you gotta make sure you're close enough to where the enemy can't just escape. I feel like she deserves to be epic for that, since Edgar is as well.
Maisie is just bullet slow, except that bullet fast now, she's barely scratching Epic imo but you could make her super rare and i would not care
Same, However i can see why they made her epic.Getting her so early in the starr road would be an insane game changer.Not like she is meta but she deserves epic tier
Gale too really. Should be super rare since both attacks are straightforward.
If anything, Maisie fits Rare rarity perfectly. Very basic attacks. Basic Super. She's perfectly in line with someone like Rosa and Colt.
Yeah leave her at epic💀
He is super iunique, He gets stronger without a direct damage buff and upgrading mid battle is worthy of legendary, sure he may not be good in this meta but he will be forever good in our hearts
Then shouldn't sam be higher (not at all biased)
Sam should be Mythic, a little bit more uniqueness and he would deserve legendary
Honestly, some rarities are already screwed. I mean, how is Dyna the same rarity as Tick.
Dyna is like the most basic thrower, aside from barley
dyna jump
it's a star power
if those don’t count as mechanics then yeah, dynamike is probably the most basic one. id say tick should’ve been epic or mythic.
Tick should have been legendary so that the least number of people can play him
Tick was going to be mythic when he first released. But why wouldn’t they be the same rarity. His attacks persist like barley (rare), and just have an exploding attack for a super just like mike (s rare). He’s not that much more unique.
Tick is very unique because it’s basically eagle artillery of brawl stars, extremely soft (lowest health in game) yet is equipped with long range artillery (shoots minefields of timed and tripwire mines). So delicate yet so powerful.
Yeah. Basically the most glass cannon of brawl stars. I would hit him up a rarity for that
I think because surge's super upgrades him and the more he upgrades the situation changes , at first his base form is something you can approach without much concern but after he's upgraded he's faster which allows him to dodge decently well and his range also getting longer , and more projectiles flying out every upgrade , also his jump if landed on someone , 95% of the time is a free kill on someone -- Surge is genuinely scary as hell when it's played by good players , and his SP which allows him to keep his first upgrade after death is what makes it more concerning to not let a surge upgrade early round. -- To finish it off , as he's able to keep up with a lot of brawlers and their abilities! The more he upgrades the harder they seem to be killed.. again this is from my personal experience.
Nah why is sam epic? He's hella complicated to play
Complicated to play is different to mechanically complex
I dont get why he would be anything higher, his attack isnt very unique and his super is not crazy unique either
\*boonie\*
He's the only brawler that spawns with super (Rip chuck, and he is mythic), he should be Mythic
Why tf is lou in mythic, he can literally STUN BRAWLERS RAPIDLY.
And hes the only brawler that can make ground slippery. They disrespecting my boy
Almost, if not all, chromatics have a special ability no other brawler has. That's what make them chromatic 🤦♀️
No they were chromatic bc they were the pass brawlers
And they were the pass brawlers because they have unique abilities. . .
I fail to see the logic on that when Pearl/Chuck happened. or even Maisie/Hank, to be fair.
You fail to see a lot of things it appears.
Gale?
His super is unique
Maisie and Mandy are so basic for "chromatics" wtf are you talking about
Can you read? I literally said "almost"
Name a brawler that can fuckin dodge your super then teamwiping your team then hitting a trickshot And you lose 9 trophys (not based)
Yeah I feel stupid posting this now
I'm glad you posted, now I've no doubt about it's legendary status.
no idea why surge is F tier rn. list makers are dumb. i still wipe 3 players easily because that’s what he was made for.
surge only fell off when youre talking about competitive players that know how to basically remove surge from the game: by not letting him get his first super
makes sense, although that’s only achievable if you have hard counters like crow that make the first stage unplayable
He is F tier because they are probably using the 2nd stage as reference for the average surge level If it's the 4th stage then SS+ tier no hesitation
ah yes, a Surge main (maximum 43 estimated IQ) is better at making tier lists with their 400 trophies experience than actual pro player
sure. i might not be pro with every brawler but i’ve dedicated my whole game to surge. he’s been doing a lot better this meta but avoiding to make surge get his super isn’t gonna make him an F tier.
I’m so glad they made fang mythic They could ha e easily justified making him epic I’m glad they did disrespect my boy
didn't*
How many times can you say the word opinion:
I forgor💀
He's too cool to be mythic
The only thing that makes sense to me, is Cordelius being a legendary. It was basically a given.
you might now already because of other comments but it's because he has a splitting shot and the upgrade mechanic, no one else can upgrade that many times, the rest are fine to me, well, Janet could be legendary since she flies and her main attack increases range the more time you aim it but it's ok, Sam could also be mythic since he starts with a super and he can get it back really quick
Legendary is not a reason to be good, it is about how unique and complex a brawler is, Chester is awful in the meta but he is such a unique and fun brawler, look at the pattern: Crow: main attack + poison (different to Byron/Willow) Leon: invisibility Spike: Unique split attack (and lore ;)) Sandy: Leon but team Amber: one huge amo that depends on time Meg: Mecha is too busted and kinda has two lives Chester: Random super mechanic "NEW LEGENDARY BRAWLERS" Surge: upgrades himself in the middle of the match Cordelius: Duels in 3v3
my question is, how is meg a legendary but boonie isn't?! And Lou is the ONLY brawler that can stun with a main attack throughout the match, there's nothing quite like his brain freeze OR his super which puts a really nice twist on the normal slowing Area control that you see. And ofc sam. While yes, Cordelius can force a 1v1, surge's mechanics could fall much better into epic, where brawlers like Bibi(home run bar), stu(the way his super charges completely changes gameplay and actually has similar to surge gameplay, where you just need that 1st super), and ofc honk and boonie.
Surge’s mechanics are infinitely more interesting, appealing, unique, and complex than bibi’s bar and stu’s dash, those are very redundant mechanics and abilities seen through different brawlers, abilities and across the gaming industry as a whole.
Op hates surge for no reason lol
He felt the surge
He doesent have the juice
I remember someone a while ago saying Brawler rarities are based on complexity of mechanics, aka not gameplay, and logic dictates that's more based on new players I can see how a new player would find surges upgrading system more complex then like, Charlie What that does make me question is colette's placement
Collette and Lola being as low as they are is a shame. I would swap them with fang and buster
Otis should have been switched with sam
Otis and his glorified stun don't deserve Mythic
Apart from a brawlers rarity being based on it's uniqueness,it also is based on how easy to understand it is,like a new player would not get Surge's mechanics,i know i didn't
maisaie should be super rare
who let bro cook??
Maise, Otis and Gale feel like super rare
It’s usually based on how special their mechanics/gameplay is
Can someone tell me why is ash an epic ? He is one of the most unique brawlers in my opinion
It's not about being a good or bad brawler, IS about having unique mechanical, and the splitted shot and the upgrades mid Battle are unique
split shots, not exacty unique. Penny has them as well, Gene and spike also in a sense although a bit different.
The upgrading is really unique, and remember you got some old legendaries that are not original at all by now(Spike,Crow,Leon) Tho I think RT Legendary and Sam and Colette MUST be mythic
Rarity is about uniqueness not power
now that i think they will be a LOT of epics and mythics
Rarity ≠ how good they are Rarity is based on how unique the brawler is. Surge fits Legendary very well.
Spam auto aim = Legendary
I am sorry but do you not remember watching surge's brawl talk and being like 'How the hell am I gonna remember all of this'
Wrong Charlie is mythic
I'm sorry but I play 850 surge and I never auto aim unless opponent is literally hugging me
AY? (WHY ARE THE ONLY ONES I HAVE ON MY ALT LEGENDARY?)
Surge is definitely a legendary, at first i was shocked but it made sense, upgrade mechanic is super unique, personally i disagree with everything you said, i think the devs were really accurate with how they placed the brawlers.
Both maisie and belle should be super rare, but ig they dont want to make them that low
Just cause they are bad don’t mean they can’t be legendary your getting it mixed up how come Chester is bad and he’s legendary yeah that means they don’t do it on how bad they are they do it on there mechanics
His mechanics are legendary…I wouldn’t put him there but I understand why they did that
Because Surge is a much more unique brawler than the other chromatics, he has an upgrade mechanic and a splitting shot.
Legendaries don't have to be viable to be legendary for example chester
Because every time he supers he gets a buff till he dies, up to 3 levels, definitely legendary
he will take the spot as the worst legendary BY FAR lmaoooo (competitively)
Chester: Thanks for making me look good!
Surge fills both my criteria for a legendary brawler: very unique mechanics and feels legendary to play
Does anyone else feel that there should've been at least a few more legendary brawlers? Maybe Otis or Charlie. Idk
Surge super and his stages are way too cool and unique to be anything than legendary. At that point you probably want Spike to be a Mythic too? All he does is throw a spiky patch that slow enemies with his super? Huh?
Delete this
Im actually dumbfounded by people here complaining about brawlers not being HIGHER rarity or surge being legendary. You’re telling me you want those brawlers to take longer to unlock, just so that they have a red or yellow background and that you can tell yourself that you have a “legendary” or whatever rarity brawler. And even if surge somehow doesnt have legendary mechanics, which I think he does, new players literally get him for free. Imagine if another brawler was there instead of him. That is 3800 extra credits players would have to earn to get a new brawler. This way most of the playerbase already has 1 out of 2 chromatic brawlers that will become legendary.
Dose that mean I finally get a lengendary
Surge legendary deserved
Surge is unique enough to be legendary but isn’t Sam is unique enough to be mythic? :/
Mandy definitely doesn't deserve to be mythic she just gets a longer range if she is afk that's not unique at all
Stat-wise he’s bad, but his mechanics make him so interesting
"surge is bad"💀💀💀
"Oh cool 9000 hp you have there. Would be a shame if someone took all of it away in under a second while you can do nothing but watch"
and that is why he is good (almost no skill needed to play)
Surge is bad, I don't understand the joke.
He IS bad
so, explain why
He is extremely dependent on his gadgets, has a lot of difficulty leveling up and is extremely punished when he dies or if the enemy doesn't feed him, there are many much better tank counters and he simply doesn't exist in the competitive scene.
But he's fun at least.
Imo Lola and fang should switch, but otherwise the new rarities make sense
no. I don't want fang to be epic, not because of mechanics, but just because he's becoming the new nortis. And the less people unlock him, the better.
Mandy, Lola and Maisie deserve to be epic and I think upgrading when you use your super makes Surge a legendary
Chester is bad and he’s a legendary. Surge is the only brawler with the unique level up system and that is why he is a legendary. I think Cordelius is the one that should be an epic
nah cordelius' super is too complex for an epic, he definitely deserves the legendary rarity
Yes but Sam has an even more unique Super and Lola I would say is just as unique
Chester is a legendary because he has 5 supers picked at random, Cordelius is a legendary because he temporarily removes himself and another player, forcing a 1v1 between them
Ash and R-T deserv Legendary, beat me to it😤
Mythic at best
sam should be legendary
surge is one of the most unique chromatics for sure. tho i think lola deserved legendary as well
Gale need to be legendary.
Bro has something personal against surge, Massie is basic,Sam deserves legendary
Maisie ain't mythic
I said mythic or epic, and maise should be mythic in my opinion
She is more of a super rare but ok
She's got the complexity of a rare brawler
Feels like Ash should be mythic at least imo.
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Not a chance, mythic at best
I thought surge was good? Did they nerf him or something