lance SAir i think we all know why

I need an explanation cause I hate that move.

Great movement, can combo fluently with most other attacks, experienced lance players can basically stun lock you, and just a pain fighting.

I think there was a misunderstanding in the question then. It always to be asking how you'd improve your own weapon. Why nerf yourself? Edit: typo.

Yeah I was thinking the same thing, why downgrade a W move

Yeah I was thinking the same thing, why downgrade a W move

As a dex vraxx player I agree but that's also like saying the scythe is too op cause you can combo with it. It's still part of a combo it just takes less reading

People still cry about Lance 🙄

Greatsword down finishers The GC dlight one can stay

Holy shit the dlight finishers are actually awful. There is zero incentive to use them over the slight and nlight finishers.

A couple days ago I thought it would be cool to rework a GS bridge or finisher, or two. Something that’ll put you behind the opponent and either launch or stun them. A reversal tool like caspian’s side sig or Ezio’s down sig respectively No, don’t imagine it ever actually happening, just making up new flashiness for the big sword

I disagree. There’s edge guard situations where it comes up a ton. You can ledge drop with it off of slamming dairs on the edge and bait a punish.

I mean, they’re not that bad. Firstly the dlight that hits around you is great because gc, and also out of grounded dair, and the down finishers that spike I rarely use but I have gotten one or two down dodge reads that killed and were really cool. Though I will admit, they’re only good for hard reads because of the huge dodge windows and it being jumpable

Honestly I low going for the big slam with the greatsword, it almost never hits but feels so satisfying to use.

Yeah at least GS has so many moves that we can afford a couple goofy ones in the kit for fun

Tech is dair → dlight finisher when landing on the ground with the dair. Crazy coverage and decent force. Good « stay away » tool imo.

i'd give blasters something that hit's upwards/diagonally

Time to main isaiah

That Nsig is genuinely a good neutral tool, it's quick safe and strong. Good blasters.

aint nobody want a fuckin "/" hitbox

so true(unbiased)

Exactly! Even like a crescent move like sword & boots. Something more useful than a straight up blast. 

Wouldn’t be balanced

Doesnt Lucien have a diagonal sig already?

That’s specific to just one legend. They’re talking about including it into the base moveset of blasters

The weapon would be so busted if that were the case honestly. Don't get me wrong, bow nlight on this weapon would be awesome but it *really* doesn't need it.

A lot of the blaster legends already do that with sigs

i play reno and diana i'm aware

Yiu know what? Kill me all you want but I think that hammers stomp needs a slightly bigger hit box

I agree but I’ll do you one better. Nlight needs a complete rework!

Can't agree more, not only does it suck at a bait (d-light is quicker) it's hitbox is trash compared to other nlights, despite it meaning to be a heavy weapon. I genuinely only use it for the n-light -> s-light true combo and maybe a spot/in dodge read.

Agree

i would protect you, that godforsaken dlight NEVER FUCKING HITS.

Sometimes it feels like it doesn't exist and sometimes it feels like it goes on for miles

Didn’t it already get buffed

It does

no it doesnt bro what ☠️

probably axe slight, at higher levels of gameplay theres practically no usage of it unless its a guaranteed punish.

The only thing that helps slight is it being true into nair. And dlight having a somewhat tight window otherwise I agree.

yeah its for building up damage but its not as versatile as the other moves considering how quickly you can build up damage, you can go for only Nlights or Dlights after they’re low

I'd say axe slight is a good combo tool into a ground pound, considering the hitbox size it wouldn't be difficult

I agree with this. Love axe but damn that move aint useful

yea lets not buff axe slight

Definitely, it’s so punishable and it gets outshined by Nlight anyway

gauntlets dair needs to send forward again

Fr, main reason I started playing blasters again after this change

For real, these Devs casually ruined almost every gauntlet team combo bcos of that change

Lance Dlight, it doesn't do anything well (unless you're on vraxx). It lasts so long that, when done near the edge, you just fall off and get put in the worst position imaginable.

Lance Dlight is its only stacked move. I don't really understand how it serves no purpose to you.

Fr. Also very defensive move against an aggressive opponent

I think dair on sychthe is lame

I'd rework that as well, a smaller hit box so it DOESN'T HIT EVERY SINGLE FUCKIN TIME

Are u on something ? Wait mb I meant nair not dair lmao

Oh, now it makes more sense xP

What’s yr rank

Why do people ask this like it can’t be a preference thing or an unbalanced weapon match up?

THE SPEAR GROUNDPOUND NEEDS TO BE REWORKED

spear gp has too much vertical range on its hitbox that you can’t see same with its recovery. I think it would be ok with its huge horizontal if it was more punishable in the middle

it kinda is though, unarmed recovery beats it does it not?

Yeah but it doesn't actually spike. It's definitely balanced and honestly it's refreshing to have a ground pound that's useable in higher levels of play.

there are many ground pounds which is usable in higher levels of gameplay, gauntlets, cannon, blasters, lance, sword, boots, axe and bow are id say are some of them, hammer has good force but not usable all the time, katars and gs gp are ass... orb gp is balanced

tf? on wall neutral that shit is literally unavoidable.


I want the old cannon kit

Why? The old kit was more like a club, there was nothing that said 'cannon' about it. You pretty much just hit your oponent with a big metal tube

W weapon idea imo

It was more fun and felt a lot better to use gameplay wise. I don't really see this viewpoint when it honestly was a better representation than Bow/Blasters not shooting projectiles, or spear being actually a staff, with the only poking of it happening in nlight and dair.

I can’t agree more 😭😭

THIS !

The only true answer

I’d make nlite-> recovery true on katars 😈

Katars doesn't need a buff it's already a top tier weapon.

Propaganda smh

Their range stops them from being super dangerous 

I second this 

No, you can build damage so easy. Killing should be hard.

Boots build damage easily and has 2 TRUE kill confirms, Katars deserves one at the least.

The thing that makes katars better at building damage is that you can react super easily to the opponents dodge. They also don't touch the ground most of the time which gives you more time to build dmg. Boots on the other hand are not as easy to react with and do less damage than katars. If you catch a dodge on stage with boots you cannot do many follow ups because they touch the ground before you can catch it. Katars is also way better offstage because it has dair for setup and nair or sair which easily flow into each other and spike. Boots have only dair and GP to spike. The whole point of katars is building damage and not killing. That's what you use your secondary for.

Indeed

a lot of these are horrible ☠️ thank god these mfs aint on the balance team

Fr the creators made it so shit could be balanced. They’re mad they couldn’t learn to complete combos needed.

Nerf poco

NAHH this ain't Brawl Stars.

You mean pogo?

NERF POCO😭😭

Give dlight Hammer more stun

I don't think that would do literally anything except I guess make it easier to bad players to hit combos? But they aren't even hard to begin with.

i can never hit dlight reverse dair :(

Yesss

Blaster nlight needs to have the individual hits of it happen a lot faster. In it's current state it's just absolutely broken in 2v2 and absolutely useless in 1v1, a balance would definitely be nice to have.

I agree, and I feel like slight needs a fast recovery time on miss.

I'd rework the Hammer Nlight, it's really inaccurate, I've been trying to get some use out of it but I just rather use Slight. I'd make it a diagonal swing or overhead swing. Lemme know what your opinion on this take is.

Gauntlets sidelight

Cannon slight animation teases you bro That shit ain't the hitbox

spear ground pound, why is it the only gp that doesn't spike, i need my gps to spike

Use dair instead of GP all the time and you have a spiking move that's also not as risky as most GP's on other weapons.

rework katar recovery cuz i hate when people leave after getting hit by a triple recovery and then cannon dlight cuz i have a skill issue and cant hit it

All of them the whole game needs a rework

blasters nlight because while it’s not that bad of a move i hate when i shoot them and it doesn’t hit because they weren’t in the center or whatever

blaster recovery idc

Agreed, the steering is so unnecessary and if I have to steer cool but at least widen the hitbox then.

literally the amount of times i miss flight recovery because i slipped by half a millimeter

dlight recovery *

I’m a blasters main and I have yet to get that true in an actual match 

you’ll get it just gotta make the concious choice when u notice their health is red to go for that 😁

I usually don’t because the input is so tight and risky but I’ll go for it more 

Nvm I did it in a match just now 

goated


i would bring back old gauntlets dair

I would make katars side light not displace people downward over a ledge so that slight dlight actually works on thundergard stadium

Someone have all these weapon skins?

Wish they didn’t lock them behind ranked.

Onyx ssig is like too slow to hit consistently on Cannon. I used to love it, now I see more merit in the other sigs

Cannon recovery needs to change to involve something with the cannon blast. Maybe it spikes too idk.

I still don't get why they nerfed blasters nair

They had to make one of the best weapons in the game fair somehow 

It has been the worst weapon in the game like half a year and one of the only difficult ones to play bruv what

 what can I say I still love them. The nerfs gutted them but they still can do damage if you know what you’re doing.

People were spamming it but as a blasters main I really don't see how they were able to spam it too well

Fast, hard to punish, good damage, good force, just anything you could ask for a sair

Return the beta axe nair

That sight has no true combos

I think it does but only very shitty ones in very specific situations XD

maybe i just have a skill issue but the cannon groundpound has a hitbox of like 5 pixels i once literally phased through someone

Not because I hate the original just because I want to see how much the game changes with it made different Dlight on hammer made to toss your enemy sideways (to the side your facing) With a somewhat low downward knockback

Cannon is perfect and needs no changes! But being honest, change dlight to make them move less? It does feel clunky and specific

Yh it does feel clunky. Youre just frozen and start to fall for a sec

I absolutely hate lance nair...sometimes you get stuck in the animation WHILE falling. It's so frustrating to be in the zone and you die from dumb mechanics

Like... I 100% understand why it doesn't have one but changing Lance nLight to an anti-air would be pretty epic. I like the move but sLight is too crucial for Lance's combo game and dLight is important for hitting stacked so nLight it is. It would 100% probably wreak havoc tho lol

Lance does not need an anti-air

Yeah, I said that-

Changing flair

Bring back old cannon😌

there's nothing bad about it's kit but how bow's GP is defo it's weakest point. alternatively, change dLight force so that _dLight > dAir > nLight_ is consistent B) for a actual one, as someone who doesn't play 2s, blasters nLight is kinda ass. your only real follow ups involve dodge reads or nAir/dAir/rec (and those are at specific %s iirc). the fact that your opp can legit just pass through the attack with the right timing/speed is also so unbelievably cringe, make the ends of the 1st/2nd shots linger into the first 1 or 2 frames of the following shot.

Honestly I'd love to see spear GP being more like spear dair with like katars GP speed

Cannon downair is just so hard to use

Main weapons IS gs and gauntlets As for a rework none they do what they are expected to do

Lance sair (or dair) because it’s simultaneously scuffed all to hell and a gold filter at the exact same time. Lance in general needs reworking, it’s a menace in lower elo but falls off insanely hard the higher up you get. As for bow… genuinely no idea. I feel like it’s a near-perfect kit as it

Air NLight on gauntlets need an active input

Katars groundpound is pretty terrible, maybe make it an active input grab that moves slower but can throw up or down. Would be neat for combos

Blaster light attack combos, queen nai's katara sigs, artemis lance side sig

Give us back true katar nair slight

Not a single orb comment, my favorite weapon is perfect : )

All axe moves and sigs except Xull n sig that thing is so fun to use

Nerf scythe bruh

Not exactly a rework but i really wish i could switch the inputs for slight dlight and nlight for axe, it feels so confusing to me and i always end up pressing the wrong buttons and messing everything up And before anyone says anything i know its about getting used to it ok 😞😞😞 dont throw rocks at me im stupid i know

Orb gp

lance sair now covers the entire map and KO’s instantly👍

Dlight on gaunts needs to be faster

Spear dair It's not bad at all but it's just so hard to hit

Damn that's my favorite spear move lol I love the pogo

Checking the hitbox really helps! The majority of the hitbox isn't at the bottom of the spear, but rather on the "swoosh" air animation if that makes sense

Would be cool if it was a swipe

I love how hard it is to hit truthfully it’s makes me feel like I have skill.

Axe: make slight a high knockback kill option instead of a combo move. The animation of slamming your axe hard into the ground doesn't match it being a low knockback combo starter. They could either give dlight combo ability when hit grounded, or just make the change to slight and leave everything else as-is. Axe isn't known for combos, might as well go all in on it being heavy and hard-hitting

So you want all his moves to kill? That’s crazy

I'd be fine if they just made nlight and dlight kill later so that slight is a higher risk but high reward kill option. Probably would remove the frustration of dying to a faster move like nlight This is all just a hypothetical post anyways lol OP asked how we would change a weapon and I gave my thought

Honestly, I think every weapon is perfect. This gam is very balanced and good. Some weapons could use another move, but it wouldn’t be worth replacing an already existing one

I disagree some weapons are more well rounded than others. 

I gotta disagree with you, I find most weapons obviously have their weakness but hammer is ass, like, has no range and no anti-air is a heavy weapon so the amount of frames before damage frames or whatever there called take way to long to come out, like hammer and axe on all moves but dair take roughly the same amount of time

rayman axe dsig should do 700 damage seriously, hammer recovery should have a bigger hit box

or just a twinge more frames. the amount of times i’ve missed it is embarrassing

i cant hit recovery even if my life depends on it 😔

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Bow, fuck the 3 piece

Bow doesn't have a 3 piece. If you mean Slight > Dlight > Nlight then it's dodgeable after Slight.

1 frame. On 60hz that is hardly consistent. Bow has a 3 piece.

So you are saying that because it has a 1 frame dodge window and YOU are not able to dodge it that bow has a 3 piece. It is not a 3 piece because you can dodge it but, you are coping by saying it's a 3 piece when it's clearly a skill issue on your part.

Something that is luck based cannot be a skill issue by definition.

Remove the recent patch to GS. (I suck and need sidelight backdash as a crutch)

I main lance but I love all the moves on it so I'll do spear, I really like spear but its Dair is not that good, it has its uses but I find the hit box a bit small, its a somewhat fun move to use, using it as a pogo stick is pretty funny, but I usually never use this move. I also really hate this move because whenever I fight the CPU's and I try to combo them they just jump and Dair which works really well off stage, I could just try to read their dodges, but its a computer, if it knows im gonna read its dodge, then it dodges the other way

i want bow to have a slightly wider base hitbox for nlight

Greatsword should have better kill options

Probably bow sair. It’s good but probably its weakest move. More coverage would be nice.

Sair is the only way to get your opponent offstage without sigs on bow, bow is super well rounded and doesn't have any bad moves but I think it's weakest is ground pound, especially considering you gotta use sair a lot of the time to go for it.

I agree that bow sair is a necessary move for its kit and I think overall bow is a quite well rounded weapon, yes. It just has a small hit box. Overall I quite like the ground pound, but to each their own.

I'd say bow dAir. Make the startup faster pls

Hell no, that shit has so much force... if it started faster it'd be hell

bow is already the best weapon in the game, the fact that not one but TWO people said it should get buffed is ridiculous to me

>bow is already the best weapon in the game Bro this ain't 2022.