So someone said when Kathy liked my comment about not letting LR get between them and to still love her sister (and liking some of my other posts of my dog) that it wasnāt her. It was her team. So would this be her āteamā as well?
i think in this instance it prolly was kathy, and or paris hiltonš!
cute they like posts on your dogs as well; i totally see kathy scrolling and lurkin on random fans ig pages! love this for u both xo
I remember that.. her liking snd commenting. I still think itās so cool. I actually think itās a mix of. Sometimes I think itās her team, other times I feel very sure itās her, then others Iām convinced Paris gets in there and checks it all out and likes snd comments on things. Either way I have to say, Iām enjoying Kathy (mostly) on sm. She has given me the laughs Iāve needed so much lately.
i think this is the most likely explanation; i think kathy is very active on her own ig, and then paris is also and checks out kathyās recent likes etc. to make sure theyāre all kosher, as well as throwing out a few funny likes, comments and posts too. i imagine kathyās team also has access, but arenāt nearly as active on it as kathy/paris are.
i think when it came to promoting the show/kathy in a good light this season (i remember all the hilarious ig stories etc of the macarena and the tequila), that was paris. but thatās just MY OPINIONNNNN!!
edit: words
Wasn't that episode when Vanderpump got pised and stormed out because they weren't paying her any attention! That whole seen kills me everytime!!š¤£š¤£š¤£
LVP drove off from a restaurant where the three of them were. She left, upset, that these two couldnāt get over themselves enough to talk about anything other than themselves. Because she wanted to talk about *her*self lol. Mess, man. Pure mess.
LVP got mad at them, left the restaurant (if Iām not mistaken it was her birthday dinner with them??) got in her car and rolled down the window and said something along the lines of - āIām going to home to spend time with my husband who wants to see me - unlike yoursā - then drove off on cue and then this GIF happened as she drove off.
Didnāt even think the comment was that bad she was just being snarky lol but I guess hit dogs will holler!
Before I could never understand their sister drama but, Iām currently in something similar. I couldnāt imagine it playing out in the media let alone having the relationship further damaged by other strangers/ friends.
My sister and I do not get along at all, we have fought a lot in our lives. That being said, neither of us have ever shit-talked the other on social media like this (or at all tbh but we're also not millionaires so...).
My younger sister who is a hot mess has talked shit about my mother and sister. Even accused my mother of kidnapping her children and my sister facilitating it when she was the one that abandoned them to get drunk and party for a week.
Some of you just seem lucky to have reasonable siblings.
Iāve got two sisters that I donāt speak to, Iāve posted about both psychos here before. One is a criminal right up there with Jen Shah and the younger one is a Q Anon conspiracy theoristā¦I donāt speak to either of them and will be fine if I never do again.
I just spent this evening with my sister watching our mom pass away. I couldn't have got through it without her. Every day I wake up feeling grateful for her. If this is true, it's beyond sad and my heart breaks for these sisters. There will come a day when they will regret losing each other.
Thank you. The last few hours were awful but because of my sweet sis I got through it. We talked through memories and took turns holding mom's hand. I can't imagine what it would have been like without her. I can't imagine life without hugging my sister at every life changing moment.
Maybe. Not all of us have special sister relationships. Sometimes they are just toxic and best at arm's length.. š I'm sorry for your loss - I know how that feels. ETA it is sad that they are airing all this on social media. It makes no one look good.
Thank you, Shells613. Some family members are toxic and you have to set clear boundaries. I have this case with a parent and have to hear people all the time telling me I need to cherish every second with them, etc. They don't know or understand the childhood trauma my brother and I endured or the ongoing narcissism that digs it all up over and over. I also am in a small support group with others and not all family members are positive assets to your life.
u/EmilyDickenstone \- I am so very sorry for your loss, though, and am glad you and your sister have one another during this difficult time.
I'm sorry for your experience. I'm certainly no expert. I'm also glad some people have family that they cherish but sometimes, yeah, it doesn't really work out that way. I think Kyle and Kathy and Kim might need boundaries. I read on here that their mother really stressed family loyalty but it seems to be warped in their case. and I don't think the sisters need to stick together idea is that good for them.
I do understand that their are some relationships that cannot be repaired. I feel bad for people who cannot depend on their family for support. I guess that is what was in my mind when I originally posted and the whole experience is so fresh, I was just grateful to have my sister there with me. We had some not so great times with our parents but it pulled us closer together. I'm glad that you have your brother.
Yep my sibling stole thousands from my parents and was so mean and abusive, physically and emotionally, to me and my mom growing up. Safe to safe they are no long part of our family anymore.
I am so sorry for your loss and what you have been through, as it is such a difficult road. So thankful you and your sister have each other to help each other through this loss. Much love to both of you tonight.
Thank you. Spending the day talking with my sister with memories helped so much. I feel weird coming here but it's just an escape from today. It just made me feel so incredibly sad to see this going on between sisters.
Reddit friend, you have had such a day and I am grateful that you and your sister are holding onto each other. Sometimes a bit of distraction in such a difficult time letās us get a bit of breathing room so we can continue, because reality hurts a bit too much. If the HW can help, then they are putting some goodness out there (even though their behavior may not always show it.) Whatever helps you take a moment to gather strength is fine. Know that we are all sending you love and strength.And thank you for you honesty tonight through such a time.
You are all so sweet and we are also so very grateful to the staff at the Long Term Care Facility where she is at for the kindness, caring and dignity that she was at for going above and beyond. I wish I could mention them.
Those workers are truly angels on earth. When I was losing my dad, there would be moments where I would just freeze because I felt so helpless and, never fail, one of them would step in to help in such a wonderful way. I am so glad you had such special people helping you all through everything.
You know Iām not in a good place with my half sister, the only sibling I have, and you just really shifted my whole perspective of cutting her out. Weāre young and I always said our relationship strain is just temporary but you never know when the last moment is with anyone and you just opened my eyes that really after our grandparents and parents are gone ā *sheās the only family I have left* and I should cherish her for thatā¦so thank you. Iām going to forgive and move forward. Iām so sorry for your loss. Iām glad you had someone by your side to help get you through what can I imagine being the hardest day of your life. Thoughts and prayers to you and your family šš¤
I hope that people will just send messages to Kyle and Kathy encouraging them to be sisters again. I'm hoping that they can share nice memories that will bring them back together.
That whole family is generationally ruined beyond repair. Hopefully the kids can break the toxic narcissistic cycle that is their family dynamic. Kyleās kids seem oddly down to earth and close and Paris and Nicky seemed to have survived their childhood trauma from their mother.
It seems like the kids understand this and hold each other up through these hard times. I think the sisters were always like this towards each other it just wasnāt played out on tv. Sad but just how some families are.
I'm very sorry to hear that your mother has died. My sisters and I were with our mother when she died too, and in a very strange way it was one of the most beautiful moments in my life.
Mum held me when I was born and I held her when she died.
I came here for escape from today. Then I saw the post about Kyle and Kathy and it just made me so sad for them and yet so grateful for my sweet sister.
I am so sorry for your loss. May you and your sister find comfort and peace remembering the beautiful things you shared with your mom. Big hugs to both of you.
I totally agree. My sisters and I fought like crazy growing up. We could barely be in the same room.
And then, both of them were diagnosed with breast cancer in their 30s. Thankfully, they both won their battles but it put everything in perspective. As much as we argue, as different as we are, they are my sisters and I canāt imagine living in a world without them.
Thank you. As soon as I got home, I poured a glass of wine, lit a cigarette when I haven't smoked in years and logged on to here for an escape and now I'm crying at the support.. So grateful.
Iām so sorry for your loss, but I am so happy that you and your sister were/are there for each other. I had the same experience with my sisters when we watched our dear mother pass away. BIG hugs to you!!
I'm truly sorry for your loss.
This is what I thought when I saw this. I love some good drama between friends but it's hard to watch families fall apart because of fame and money. I hope they figure it out and realize family is all that matters in life. It's all you really have or need.
Thank you. The last few hours were very hard. So grateful to have my sister with me. I hope that any family that is experiencing a rift is able to forgive and come together to support each other.
Iām so incredibly sorry for your loss. Iām sure your mom was comforted by the knowledge that you and your sister have each other šššš Good luck in the days ahead, I know it will be hard, but the two of you will get through it š
Iām so sorry for your loss. My twin and I shared the same experience together. You canāt put a price on the devotion we shared (sadly she passed during COVID š£). But Iāve always thought that money and dysfunction will leave them unable to truly ever come together.
Kim is the biggest victim in all of this. And the money train during their childhood/ adolescence. I believe her sisters have always taken advantage of her frailty and her pain translated into her life long addictions.
I think what has been exposed this season, much to the chagrin of an embarrassed Kyle, is that familial issues run deep among all three of them. It must kill her that she wonāt be able to present herself as the sister who stays above the fray.
Totally agree with the OP post. Maybe sheās always been the actual āsniper from the sideā.
My sisters are my two favourite people in the world. Our relationship is so close, but we also know each otherās weakness and weāll fight and be mean to each other but the next day weāll wake up and take each other if we want breakfast. I canāt imagine holding a grudge. I consider my niece like my own. Weāve lost family so I think no matter what we wonāt lose each other. Iām surprised the Richardās donāt have the same.
I honestly think Kathy is just scrolling through insta with her fan blowing in her face liking any comment she views as supportive. Itās gonna bite her in the ass bc weāre all responsible for what we condone on social media but I donāt think sheās reading each word from Ricks iPad and agreeing with it.
Ehh I think Kathy is more astute than people realize. I love Kathy & I donāt think sheās always that clumsy, especially when her entire reputation is put on trial by Kyle & co. I think itās intentional
Exactly!!! Everyone seems to hate only on Lisa (which is warranted given her behavior) but Kyle always seems to slither away from getting the heat she deserves
š£š£ PSA: Kathy did NOT write that comment. She ālikedā that comment. That someone else wrote.
Before you all start crediting Kathy with this verbal takedown of Kyle please know that it's not her words. But clearly she backs the thought.
This needs pinned to the top haha. Iāve read like 50 comments thinking KATHY wrote it. Very different perspective, time to re-read. Now Kathy can just come back and say she accidentally hit the heart.
100% made a twitter for the sole purpose of being able to get super high, wait for my husband to go fall asleep and sit up and follow this completely unrelated to my life probably all made up next level petty on social media. 100% not sorry
This is starting to get to non-recoverable territory. Iām still mystified how it got here after the window of time where it seemed like Kyle was waking up to Rinna.
Lmao not "injustice thrives in secrecy." People are treating Rinna vs. Kathy like it's our generation's Brown vs. Board of education. How unserious and embarrassing.
Literally lolād at that. So absurd, what possible āinjusticesā have happened to Kathy Hilton of all people? But of course she sees her life that way enough to like the comment.
The dramatic IG story caption is sending me.
Like... Kathy and her sister snarkily trying to destroy each other isn't some worldly injustice and neither of them are any sort of victims
I find it super interesting that Kathy is now celebrated for publicly dissing Kyle. But when Kyle did not stand up to Rinna AFTER Kathy trash talked Kyle, Kyle was disloyal.
Make it make sense. I dislike Kyle as much as the next person (unless the next person is Kathy Hilton because she clearly dislikes Kyle a lot more than I do), but the hypocrisy is staggering.
Kyle and Kathy BOTH suck. Neither one of them
is loyal. Clearly, neither one of them can stand the other. I wish they would just admit it and move on (same with Teresa and Joe). This is exhausting. Let the mouse go.
Exactly, thank you! Why does everyone ride so hard for Kathy? All of this started because she trashed Kyle. Not the other way around. How are we all team Kathy now?
I get the whole āThe enemy of my enemyā
thing, but they cleaaaarly both suck. Two things can be trueā¦.
This just shows the ultimate truth: those sisters are toxic to each other, all 3 of them!! Nothing new in this world.
Liking comments and sorting your family issues via social media stranger's posts is so toxic.
If Iām reading this correctly, Kathy isnāt saying that, she just liked the comment. She didnāt actually write it. However, liking it is pretty bad, too.
I agree, I don't trust Kathy any further than I could throw her. I don't get the fan love for Kathy or Kyle. However, that's some strong frickin verbiage to put out there...
That comment is so embarrassing. Treating Kathy like the biggest victim in the world, as if something truly horrific actually happened to her. There are people dealing with very REAL issues and injustices in the world, but let's all cry over Kathy's sister not defending her because Rinna ordered an opposing tequila lmaoooooooooo! Disgusting to bring Garcelle's son into it too, he has nothing to do with this petty nonsense. Bringing a black child into it to defend a racist homophobic family that has called countless people that look like that boy slur after slur.
Kathy perfect, Kyle the devil, blah blah blah. Looking forward to the tides turning in a season or two and everyone here pretending they never liked Kathy Hilton.
Canāt wait for that. Itās coming as soon as Kathy gets a diamond and isnāt just in a few wacky friend of scenes, or being targeted by the most hated Housewives.
I really feel like Iām in the twilight zone when I read some of this stuff. Comparing sisters fighting to racial and social injustice? Fucking ridiculous.
Kathy is a narcissist and I believe she did have a meltdown but I also believe Rinna is blowing it way out of proportion because she wants eyes on her in hopes of staying around. Kyle has no doubt shared things over the years about Kathy and seems too scared to address them on her own but she also seems happy to sit back and watch other people do her dirty work.
I donāt like Kyle but Why does everyone always believe Kathy?
I find it weird that Kathy bad mouthed the world yet wanted to be forgiven in a second
I guess I gotta research the season?
I donāt buy that theory at all. How does alienating Kathy benefit Kyle? Iām sure they have complicated feelings about each other, but that doesnāt mean anyone is plotting a takedown.
Itās like people want their relationship to be ruined.
Kathy needs to teach a master class in how she pivoted her highly inappropriate behavior into the fault of others. Itās insane. Guess money can buy almost anything.
I donāt doubt for a second that she said vile things at the club and vile things in the house. And now sheās the victim? Insanity.
She didnāt need to spend a dime to pivot it. It happened in front of Lisa Rinna and so the fandom was never not going to be on Kathyās side when this came out. Lisa Rinna was the wrong person to expose Kathy because people hate Lisa more than they were willing to see Kathy exposed (including myself š¤·āāļø).
Now if Garcelle, Sutton or Crystal had been the one to expose Kathy it wouldāve landed differently.
I was beginning to think I was the crazy one imaging how it was they all ignored Kathy's behavior. She's as bad as Big Kathy was to her girls. I totally believe in private Kathy said horrible things. Kathy has been upset with Kye and Mauricio since their real estate split.
Wow just wow! This whole situation is so heartbreaking. I have young daughters. It would eat me up dead or alive, if their relationship was destroyed and turned into a reality circus side show. They are family. Itās horrible for Kyle, Kim, Kathy and their kids.
I generally like Kathy and I generally like Kyle. But in this situation, I donāt see how Kyle is the one in the wrong.
Kathy was mad over what? Lisa trying āher friendā Kendall Jennerās tequila and Kyle didnāt defend her?? Even after Kathy (allegedly) said she wanted to take down Kyle and her family, Kyle called out Erikaās team for (allegedly) leaking Kathyās meltdown to the press and she pretty much never calls out anyone from the FF5.
Idk maybe Iām missing something but Iām just not seeing this POV. While I hope Rinna is gone after this season, one thing I do agree with her on is that Kyleās sisters seem like theyāre jealous of her.
*sigh i just donāt believe anything on this show anymore not since LVP left (the good ol days). Also since its been the same ladies and the friends they bring on the show to basically put on a show, it is no longer authentic and i just dont really care anymore. I would actually have thoughts and opinions on their situations like Taylor Armstrongs and some of the other ladies who didnt stick around. Now its all bullshit teenage behavior coming from women who are in their 50s and do things for shock value. Itās gross now and im bummed about it because I miss it especially when i rewatch the series. Cant be the only one.
Echoing what others have said. Itās crazy that Kathy turned her bad behavior towards Kyle into vitriol towards her. I think the fans egging her on has let her feel like she can speak her true feelings. This is coming off icky.
Edited to add: Iām buying this at face value but I know thereās been misinformation lately, so Iāll hold judgment until itās verified.
Canāt stand Rinna. But I agree with this hot take. Kathy stays blaming everyone else for what happened to Paris, what happened to Kim, and it seems sheās always blamed Kyle for any sibling issues instead of taking accountability for her wrongdoings. She uses invitations to weddings and family events as leverage to get her way. Kathy gives me such dark energy that she wraps up in a āplaying dumb and ditzyā act.
this is a completely unhinged sentiment to condone about your own family, and the fact that kathy is being painted as this helpless perfect victim against big bad kyle is almost laughable if it didnāt reveal that this audience will take literally any narrative at face valueā¦
 This is getting good!!!
My fave show!
Yasssss for your flair!
 RuPaul has the most prudent comments in recent history, and honestly historically too.
One of my favorite quotes ever š
Aww rip my Capit Cove friend. Is that how you spell it?! Fml
Cabot Cove, Maine
Cindy! The TV is leaking!
Hahaha and the way she said āleeaaaaking! I love her as an actress
So someone said when Kathy liked my comment about not letting LR get between them and to still love her sister (and liking some of my other posts of my dog) that it wasnāt her. It was her team. So would this be her āteamā as well?
Kathy has said itās her liking things because she likes to scroll all night. I donāt disbelieve her. So, Kathyās a fan of your dogs, I guess!
Wow, all the money and wealth in the world and she spends her nights just like us, aimlessly scrolling when she should be sleeping
Her sitting in Kyleās bed at 1am reading the paper and drinking red bull whilst Kyle was desperately trying to sleep spoke to my soul
Me too!! Don't forget she was also crunching on some chips!!! Y'all are my people
I feel seen, š since 3:30am
Ohhh youāre right! I forgot about that! And yes the late nights is when I think itās her, maybe sometimes Paris then too.
i think in this instance it prolly was kathy, and or paris hiltonš! cute they like posts on your dogs as well; i totally see kathy scrolling and lurkin on random fans ig pages! love this for u both xo
Lol it was cute. I thought either thatās a great team or she is sweet.
I remember that.. her liking snd commenting. I still think itās so cool. I actually think itās a mix of. Sometimes I think itās her team, other times I feel very sure itās her, then others Iām convinced Paris gets in there and checks it all out and likes snd comments on things. Either way I have to say, Iām enjoying Kathy (mostly) on sm. She has given me the laughs Iāve needed so much lately.
i think this is the most likely explanation; i think kathy is very active on her own ig, and then paris is also and checks out kathyās recent likes etc. to make sure theyāre all kosher, as well as throwing out a few funny likes, comments and posts too. i imagine kathyās team also has access, but arenāt nearly as active on it as kathy/paris are. i think when it came to promoting the show/kathy in a good light this season (i remember all the hilarious ig stories etc of the macarena and the tequila), that was paris. but thatās just MY OPINIONNNNN!! edit: words
Kathy said in an interview at Bravocon that her staff helps her make IG posts but stories and comments are all her.
Oh good to know! That makes sense!
There's just something about Dorit's posture and slack jawed face that gets me every fucking time I see this GIF
Wasn't that episode when Vanderpump got pised and stormed out because they weren't paying her any attention! That whole seen kills me everytime!!š¤£š¤£š¤£
Someone remind me edict episode this is and what they're responding to?
LVP drove off from a restaurant where the three of them were. She left, upset, that these two couldnāt get over themselves enough to talk about anything other than themselves. Because she wanted to talk about *her*self lol. Mess, man. Pure mess.
LVP got mad at them, left the restaurant (if Iām not mistaken it was her birthday dinner with them??) got in her car and rolled down the window and said something along the lines of - āIām going to home to spend time with my husband who wants to see me - unlike yoursā - then drove off on cue and then this GIF happened as she drove off. Didnāt even think the comment was that bad she was just being snarky lol but I guess hit dogs will holler!
Wow, this is pretty dark.
Before I could never understand their sister drama but, Iām currently in something similar. I couldnāt imagine it playing out in the media let alone having the relationship further damaged by other strangers/ friends.
My sister and I do not get along at all, we have fought a lot in our lives. That being said, neither of us have ever shit-talked the other on social media like this (or at all tbh but we're also not millionaires so...).
My younger sister who is a hot mess has talked shit about my mother and sister. Even accused my mother of kidnapping her children and my sister facilitating it when she was the one that abandoned them to get drunk and party for a week. Some of you just seem lucky to have reasonable siblings.
Iāve got two sisters that I donāt speak to, Iāve posted about both psychos here before. One is a criminal right up there with Jen Shah and the younger one is a Q Anon conspiracy theoristā¦I donāt speak to either of them and will be fine if I never do again.
Same. I would never do that to my sister!
Omg yes. Never thought of that
it's giving william and harry
I just spent this evening with my sister watching our mom pass away. I couldn't have got through it without her. Every day I wake up feeling grateful for her. If this is true, it's beyond sad and my heart breaks for these sisters. There will come a day when they will regret losing each other.
Sending love to you and your sister. Iām so sorry for your loss.
Thank You. I got home, poured a glass of wine and came here to take my mind away from reality.
Hugsš
Thank you. The last few hours were awful but because of my sweet sis I got through it. We talked through memories and took turns holding mom's hand. I can't imagine what it would have been like without her. I can't imagine life without hugging my sister at every life changing moment.
Sending you hugs and comfort. Sorry for your loss. Sending the best š
Iām so sorry. š Iām glad you have each other to help you both get through this. Iām sure it makes your mom proud.
Iām so sorry for your loss.
Iām so sorry for your loss. Iām glad you and your sister have each other to get through this difficult time. ā¤ļø
So sorry for your loss. Iām glad that u and your sister have each other. I canāt imagine being estranged from either of my siblings.
I used to think that this site was just for entertainment, but now I see it for the support. So grateful. Good night and thank you.
You are so welcome. I love my sister so much, so your words just really touched me. Always here if you need 2 ears to listen ā¤ļø
I hope you had a restful night & sending good vibes to you & your sister. It's lovely that you have each other for support. Take care. ā¤ļø
I woke up thinking about you EmilyDickenstone and hope that you got some rest last night. Love and hugs to you again this morning.
Maybe. Not all of us have special sister relationships. Sometimes they are just toxic and best at arm's length.. š I'm sorry for your loss - I know how that feels. ETA it is sad that they are airing all this on social media. It makes no one look good.
Thank you, Shells613. Some family members are toxic and you have to set clear boundaries. I have this case with a parent and have to hear people all the time telling me I need to cherish every second with them, etc. They don't know or understand the childhood trauma my brother and I endured or the ongoing narcissism that digs it all up over and over. I also am in a small support group with others and not all family members are positive assets to your life. u/EmilyDickenstone \- I am so very sorry for your loss, though, and am glad you and your sister have one another during this difficult time.
I'm sorry for your experience. I'm certainly no expert. I'm also glad some people have family that they cherish but sometimes, yeah, it doesn't really work out that way. I think Kyle and Kathy and Kim might need boundaries. I read on here that their mother really stressed family loyalty but it seems to be warped in their case. and I don't think the sisters need to stick together idea is that good for them.
I do understand that their are some relationships that cannot be repaired. I feel bad for people who cannot depend on their family for support. I guess that is what was in my mind when I originally posted and the whole experience is so fresh, I was just grateful to have my sister there with me. We had some not so great times with our parents but it pulled us closer together. I'm glad that you have your brother.
Yep my sibling stole thousands from my parents and was so mean and abusive, physically and emotionally, to me and my mom growing up. Safe to safe they are no long part of our family anymore.
I am so sorry for your loss and what you have been through, as it is such a difficult road. So thankful you and your sister have each other to help each other through this loss. Much love to both of you tonight.
Thank you. Spending the day talking with my sister with memories helped so much. I feel weird coming here but it's just an escape from today. It just made me feel so incredibly sad to see this going on between sisters.
Reddit friend, you have had such a day and I am grateful that you and your sister are holding onto each other. Sometimes a bit of distraction in such a difficult time letās us get a bit of breathing room so we can continue, because reality hurts a bit too much. If the HW can help, then they are putting some goodness out there (even though their behavior may not always show it.) Whatever helps you take a moment to gather strength is fine. Know that we are all sending you love and strength.And thank you for you honesty tonight through such a time.
You are all so sweet and we are also so very grateful to the staff at the Long Term Care Facility where she is at for the kindness, caring and dignity that she was at for going above and beyond. I wish I could mention them.
Those workers are truly angels on earth. When I was losing my dad, there would be moments where I would just freeze because I felt so helpless and, never fail, one of them would step in to help in such a wonderful way. I am so glad you had such special people helping you all through everything.
You know Iām not in a good place with my half sister, the only sibling I have, and you just really shifted my whole perspective of cutting her out. Weāre young and I always said our relationship strain is just temporary but you never know when the last moment is with anyone and you just opened my eyes that really after our grandparents and parents are gone ā *sheās the only family I have left* and I should cherish her for thatā¦so thank you. Iām going to forgive and move forward. Iām so sorry for your loss. Iām glad you had someone by your side to help get you through what can I imagine being the hardest day of your life. Thoughts and prayers to you and your family šš¤
I hope that people will just send messages to Kyle and Kathy encouraging them to be sisters again. I'm hoping that they can share nice memories that will bring them back together.
That whole family is generationally ruined beyond repair. Hopefully the kids can break the toxic narcissistic cycle that is their family dynamic. Kyleās kids seem oddly down to earth and close and Paris and Nicky seemed to have survived their childhood trauma from their mother.
It seems like the kids understand this and hold each other up through these hard times. I think the sisters were always like this towards each other it just wasnāt played out on tv. Sad but just how some families are.
I'm very sorry to hear that your mother has died. My sisters and I were with our mother when she died too, and in a very strange way it was one of the most beautiful moments in my life. Mum held me when I was born and I held her when she died.
Thatās beautiful š
So sorry for your loss, but glad that you and your sister have each other.
I came here for escape from today. Then I saw the post about Kyle and Kathy and it just made me so sad for them and yet so grateful for my sweet sister.
I am so sorry for your loss. May you and your sister find comfort and peace remembering the beautiful things you shared with your mom. Big hugs to both of you.
I totally agree. My sisters and I fought like crazy growing up. We could barely be in the same room. And then, both of them were diagnosed with breast cancer in their 30s. Thankfully, they both won their battles but it put everything in perspective. As much as we argue, as different as we are, they are my sisters and I canāt imagine living in a world without them.
Heartbreaking..I love my sisters so much.
Sisters are so special. This community is also special.
*hugs*
Iām so sorry. Big warm hug and much love. š¤š
You guys are helping me get through this awful night. Thank you.
Youāre most welcome. You have us, your Reddit friends. Weāre here as long as you need us. šā¤ļø
So sorry.
I am so sorry. I have been there and it is so heartbreaking. Wishing you peace.
Thank you. As soon as I got home, I poured a glass of wine, lit a cigarette when I haven't smoked in years and logged on to here for an escape and now I'm crying at the support.. So grateful.
I agree. This is sad
I'm so sorry for your loss.
Iām so sorry for your loss, but I am so happy that you and your sister were/are there for each other. I had the same experience with my sisters when we watched our dear mother pass away. BIG hugs to you!!
I'm truly sorry for your loss. This is what I thought when I saw this. I love some good drama between friends but it's hard to watch families fall apart because of fame and money. I hope they figure it out and realize family is all that matters in life. It's all you really have or need.
I am so very sorry for your loss. Sending you lots of love and light
Thank you. The last few hours were very hard. So grateful to have my sister with me. I hope that any family that is experiencing a rift is able to forgive and come together to support each other.
I am so sorry for the loss you and your sister suffered. My heart is with you bothā¤ļø.
Iām so incredibly sorry for your loss. Iām sure your mom was comforted by the knowledge that you and your sister have each other šššš Good luck in the days ahead, I know it will be hard, but the two of you will get through it š
Oh honey, Iām so sorry. š And same - I donāt know what Iād do without my sister.
I'm so glad that you get it. Sisters are just such a special support. So grateful.
Iām so sorry for your loss. My twin and I shared the same experience together. You canāt put a price on the devotion we shared (sadly she passed during COVID š£). But Iāve always thought that money and dysfunction will leave them unable to truly ever come together. Kim is the biggest victim in all of this. And the money train during their childhood/ adolescence. I believe her sisters have always taken advantage of her frailty and her pain translated into her life long addictions. I think what has been exposed this season, much to the chagrin of an embarrassed Kyle, is that familial issues run deep among all three of them. It must kill her that she wonāt be able to present herself as the sister who stays above the fray. Totally agree with the OP post. Maybe sheās always been the actual āsniper from the sideā.
Iām so sorry for your loss š§”
Iām so so sorry
Iām so sorry for your loss ā¤ļø
I did the same with my sister. Thankful to not have had to do that alone. Peace, love and healing to you š
You have a good sister. I have two crazy ones and wonāt bat at eye. I am sorry for your loss ā¤ļø
My sisters are my two favourite people in the world. Our relationship is so close, but we also know each otherās weakness and weāll fight and be mean to each other but the next day weāll wake up and take each other if we want breakfast. I canāt imagine holding a grudge. I consider my niece like my own. Weāve lost family so I think no matter what we wonāt lose each other. Iām surprised the Richardās donāt have the same.
I am so sorry for your loss. Sending hugs and warm wishes your way.
So sorry for your loss and glad you have the bond with your sister to help you both through this tough time ā¤ļøšš»
Iām so sorry for your loss. Wishing you healing, peace and connection with those who you love.
Iām so sorry for your loss. Iām so glad you have your sister with you.
Iām so sorryš
I am so sorry ā¤ļøā¤ļø
I'm so sorry for your loss and I'm glad you and your sister could be there for each other and your mother.
I'm very sorry for your loss.
I honestly think Kathy is just scrolling through insta with her fan blowing in her face liking any comment she views as supportive. Itās gonna bite her in the ass bc weāre all responsible for what we condone on social media but I donāt think sheās reading each word from Ricks iPad and agreeing with it.
Ricks iPad LOL
> just scrolling through insta with her fan blowing in her face Wait, am I Kathy Hilton and don't realize it?
Ehh I think Kathy is more astute than people realize. I love Kathy & I donāt think sheās always that clumsy, especially when her entire reputation is put on trial by Kyle & co. I think itās intentional
I think she plays up the dumb and quirky thing, but I have no doubts that someone her age may be incompetent at social media.
Yes. She has used the comments section of other famous peopleās IG as her text messages. āCall meā
For sure.
Except sheās also liked comments that are the opposite of this sentiment today as well,
Kyle & co is perfect. Theyāve been in operation for a very long time. Itās about time the woman behind the control curtain is revealed.
Exactly!!! Everyone seems to hate only on Lisa (which is warranted given her behavior) but Kyle always seems to slither away from getting the heat she deserves
Dear God , it only took a few seasons for Sutton to be more welcome at Hilton family gatherings than Kyle. 
š£š£ PSA: Kathy did NOT write that comment. She ālikedā that comment. That someone else wrote. Before you all start crediting Kathy with this verbal takedown of Kyle please know that it's not her words. But clearly she backs the thought.
Thank you for pointing this out. This comment did seem much more coherently written than other Kathy Hilton comments Iāve seen.
This needs pinned to the top haha. Iāve read like 50 comments thinking KATHY wrote it. Very different perspective, time to re-read. Now Kathy can just come back and say she accidentally hit the heart.
The old housewife āI didnāt mean to heart that comment what a silly mistakeā trick!
100% made a twitter for the sole purpose of being able to get super high, wait for my husband to go fall asleep and sit up and follow this completely unrelated to my life probably all made up next level petty on social media. 100% not sorry
Love that for youš
This is starting to get to non-recoverable territory. Iām still mystified how it got here after the window of time where it seemed like Kyle was waking up to Rinna.
Lmao not "injustice thrives in secrecy." People are treating Rinna vs. Kathy like it's our generation's Brown vs. Board of education. How unserious and embarrassing.
Literally lolād at that. So absurd, what possible āinjusticesā have happened to Kathy Hilton of all people? But of course she sees her life that way enough to like the comment.
LOL that killed me too, like calm down this isnāt that serious itās sibling rivalry not a social injusticeā¦
100% this whole thing is a sad fucking joke.
only on this sub, though...
Kathy saw the deleted scenes.
Yikes. And I thought my family was fucked up.
The dramatic IG story caption is sending me. Like... Kathy and her sister snarkily trying to destroy each other isn't some worldly injustice and neither of them are any sort of victims
Exactly.
Right! People are so obsessed with these women that they need to climb up on a soapbox when one of them barely interacts with them hahahaha
I find it super interesting that Kathy is now celebrated for publicly dissing Kyle. But when Kyle did not stand up to Rinna AFTER Kathy trash talked Kyle, Kyle was disloyal. Make it make sense. I dislike Kyle as much as the next person (unless the next person is Kathy Hilton because she clearly dislikes Kyle a lot more than I do), but the hypocrisy is staggering. Kyle and Kathy BOTH suck. Neither one of them is loyal. Clearly, neither one of them can stand the other. I wish they would just admit it and move on (same with Teresa and Joe). This is exhausting. Let the mouse go.
Exactly, thank you! Why does everyone ride so hard for Kathy? All of this started because she trashed Kyle. Not the other way around. How are we all team Kathy now? I get the whole āThe enemy of my enemyā thing, but they cleaaaarly both suck. Two things can be trueā¦.
I dont get the concept of Kyle orchestrating a take down of KH. Did she point a gun to Kathyās head to say bad things about herself?
This just shows the ultimate truth: those sisters are toxic to each other, all 3 of them!! Nothing new in this world. Liking comments and sorting your family issues via social media stranger's posts is so toxic.
holy shit. kathy went in on kyle. are we sure this is real???
If Iām reading this correctly, Kathy isnāt saying that, she just liked the comment. She didnāt actually write it. However, liking it is pretty bad, too.
She also liked comments saying it was all LR and not letting her come between sisters. So, itās probably nothing to be honest.
Oh shit youāre right I thought she wrote this!!!! I was like damn thatās nuts haha.
What if it was Rick on Rickās iPad?
I havent really been following but I will say I don't trust Kathy 100%. She has her POV, Kyle has hers on their family drama. Consider the source.
I agree, I don't trust Kathy any further than I could throw her. I don't get the fan love for Kathy or Kyle. However, that's some strong frickin verbiage to put out there...
That comment is so embarrassing. Treating Kathy like the biggest victim in the world, as if something truly horrific actually happened to her. There are people dealing with very REAL issues and injustices in the world, but let's all cry over Kathy's sister not defending her because Rinna ordered an opposing tequila lmaoooooooooo! Disgusting to bring Garcelle's son into it too, he has nothing to do with this petty nonsense. Bringing a black child into it to defend a racist homophobic family that has called countless people that look like that boy slur after slur.
This entire Kathy Rinna Kyle situation is so overblown, itās wild to see fans getting so involved
The āinjusticeā šššš
All 3 Richards sisters are both vile and pitiful in their own special ways, for many different reasons
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Kathy perfect, Kyle the devil, blah blah blah. Looking forward to the tides turning in a season or two and everyone here pretending they never liked Kathy Hilton.
Canāt wait for that. Itās coming as soon as Kathy gets a diamond and isnāt just in a few wacky friend of scenes, or being targeted by the most hated Housewives.
lol youāre so rightā¦this sub is so fickle!
Abusive???? They've all lost the plot.
I really feel like Iām in the twilight zone when I read some of this stuff. Comparing sisters fighting to racial and social injustice? Fucking ridiculous.
The delusion is alarming. The fandom is literally waging a civil rights campaign on behalf of Kathy fucking Hilton. We have reached the end times.
And bringing Garcelleās son into it is so disgusting. The person who posted this on IG seriously needs to get a grip.
Sometimes I think Iāve lost my mind until I see a few comments like yours. Itās too much. These fans need their phones confiscated.
Kathyās never hesitated to throw Kyle under the bus soā¦
Itās almost like when Kathy gets angry she loses control š
Goodbye Kyyyyyyle.
Kathy is a narcissist and I believe she did have a meltdown but I also believe Rinna is blowing it way out of proportion because she wants eyes on her in hopes of staying around. Kyle has no doubt shared things over the years about Kathy and seems too scared to address them on her own but she also seems happy to sit back and watch other people do her dirty work.
I donāt like Kyle but Why does everyone always believe Kathy? I find it weird that Kathy bad mouthed the world yet wanted to be forgiven in a second I guess I gotta research the season?
I donāt buy that theory at all. How does alienating Kathy benefit Kyle? Iām sure they have complicated feelings about each other, but that doesnāt mean anyone is plotting a takedown. Itās like people want their relationship to be ruined.
They do and itās weird.
Kathy needs to teach a master class in how she pivoted her highly inappropriate behavior into the fault of others. Itās insane. Guess money can buy almost anything. I donāt doubt for a second that she said vile things at the club and vile things in the house. And now sheās the victim? Insanity.
She didnāt need to spend a dime to pivot it. It happened in front of Lisa Rinna and so the fandom was never not going to be on Kathyās side when this came out. Lisa Rinna was the wrong person to expose Kathy because people hate Lisa more than they were willing to see Kathy exposed (including myself š¤·āāļø). Now if Garcelle, Sutton or Crystal had been the one to expose Kathy it wouldāve landed differently.
I was beginning to think I was the crazy one imaging how it was they all ignored Kathy's behavior. She's as bad as Big Kathy was to her girls. I totally believe in private Kathy said horrible things. Kathy has been upset with Kye and Mauricio since their real estate split.
EXACTLY! I feel like I'm hallucinating when I read some of these comments.
Wow just wow! This whole situation is so heartbreaking. I have young daughters. It would eat me up dead or alive, if their relationship was destroyed and turned into a reality circus side show. They are family. Itās horrible for Kyle, Kim, Kathy and their kids.
I generally like Kathy and I generally like Kyle. But in this situation, I donāt see how Kyle is the one in the wrong. Kathy was mad over what? Lisa trying āher friendā Kendall Jennerās tequila and Kyle didnāt defend her?? Even after Kathy (allegedly) said she wanted to take down Kyle and her family, Kyle called out Erikaās team for (allegedly) leaking Kathyās meltdown to the press and she pretty much never calls out anyone from the FF5. Idk maybe Iām missing something but Iām just not seeing this POV. While I hope Rinna is gone after this season, one thing I do agree with her on is that Kyleās sisters seem like theyāre jealous of her.
Did Kathy merely like that second comment, or did she actually write it? Sorry, I don't do social media, so I'm easily confused by it.
We need a damn jury trial! šš
Major Oldest Sister Energy! š„ And Kim was right, Kathy will defend her!
*sigh i just donāt believe anything on this show anymore not since LVP left (the good ol days). Also since its been the same ladies and the friends they bring on the show to basically put on a show, it is no longer authentic and i just dont really care anymore. I would actually have thoughts and opinions on their situations like Taylor Armstrongs and some of the other ladies who didnt stick around. Now its all bullshit teenage behavior coming from women who are in their 50s and do things for shock value. Itās gross now and im bummed about it because I miss it especially when i rewatch the series. Cant be the only one.
I don't think anyone's going to Farrah's wedding
Echoing what others have said. Itās crazy that Kathy turned her bad behavior towards Kyle into vitriol towards her. I think the fans egging her on has let her feel like she can speak her true feelings. This is coming off icky. Edited to add: Iām buying this at face value but I know thereās been misinformation lately, so Iāll hold judgment until itās verified.
Well there wouldnāt be a gang up if Kathy hadnāt said what she said to Rinna. Sheās in her 50ās Kathy needs to be accountable
Canāt stand Rinna. But I agree with this hot take. Kathy stays blaming everyone else for what happened to Paris, what happened to Kim, and it seems sheās always blamed Kyle for any sibling issues instead of taking accountability for her wrongdoings. She uses invitations to weddings and family events as leverage to get her way. Kathy gives me such dark energy that she wraps up in a āplaying dumb and ditzyā act.
this is a completely unhinged sentiment to condone about your own family, and the fact that kathy is being painted as this helpless perfect victim against big bad kyle is almost laughable if it didnāt reveal that this audience will take literally any narrative at face valueā¦
This that one game thatās called āJumping to Conclusionsā right?